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Craps: The Most Fun You Can Have with Two Dice

By ennui in Culture
Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 02:18:23 PM EST
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One of my favorite casino games, and one of the most popular, is Craps.I'm sure those of you who haven't played it have seen it on popular shows such as Friends, where a roll of the dice determined Chandler and Monica's wedding plans, or Indecent Proposal, where John Gage recouped a portion of the $1,000,000 he had to spend to borrow Diana Murphy with a single winning throw. The following will give you a little of the history of the game, and give you the confidence to step up to the table next time you're in the casino, put some cash on the table and say "change, no action."


HISTORY

Craps is related to a 12th-century game called Hazart, or Hazard. In 19th-century England and France a varient of Hazard similar to the game we play today became popular. The name evolved from Hazard because the Brits called rolling a 2, 3 or 12 "crabs," and various mispronounciations eventually evolved into the modern term, Craps. The game became popular in World War One, as the required equipment (a pair of dice) was easily obtained and portable, after the war the casinos of Las Vegas laid out felts for the entertainment of the returning soldiers, and the game's popularity skyrocketed.

THE RULES

The game is played with two six-sided dice, each side marked with from 1 to 6 pips in such a way that any opposite two sides add up to 7. The shooter is given the dice, and throws them to the opposite end of the table. This is referred to as the "come out" roll. On the come out roll, the shooter automatically wins if the sum of the dice is 7 or 11, referred to as a "natural," or more commonly a "front-line winner." If the shooter produces a 2, 3 or 12, this is "craps," a loser. Any other outcome (4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10) is referred to as a "point." The point of the "point" is that the shooter is given the dice again, and must roll his "point" (that is, the same number rolled on his initial roll) before he rolls a 7. The shooter continues rolling the dice until he rolls his point, or a 7, in which case he loses. If the shooter has a point to make, the croupier will often announce what the shooter is shooting for, for example if the shooter has a point of 6 the croupier will announce "6 is" before every roll.

The betting action takes place on the table. Before the shooter "comes out," that is, before the first roll, you have the option of making a "pass" or "don't pass" bet. The "pass" bet is that the shooter will roll 7 or 11 on their first roll, or failing that will make their "point." "Don't pass" is the opposite, the bet is that the shooter will roll craps or roll a 7 before making their point. Don't pass bets don't pay on a 12 coming out so the house retains an advantage on the bet. These "come out" bets are generally referred to as "line" bets, although technically only the "pass line" is a line bet.

If the shooter has a point to make, there are several places you can place wagers yourself, simply by putting chips on the appropriate place on the table.

After the come-out roll, most casinos allow a "behind the line" bet. A common practice at casinos is allowing "double odds" bets behind the line. This allows you to increase your wager but be paid at the "correct" odds for the point the shooter is trying to make for that portion of the bet. 10 and 4 generally pay off at 2 to 1 behind the line, 5 and 9 at 3 to 2, and 6 to 5 on 6 and 8. This is important to know, as the house always rounds down, so it's important to put a rational amount behind the line based on what the shooter's going for.

Another option you have are the "come" and "don't come" bets. Even though the shooter is already shooting for a "point" at this point, you can place a bet in the either of these areas, and that bet will be treated as though the shooter was making a "come out" roll. In other words, a 7 or 11 on the next roll will pay your "come" bet, and a 2, 3 or 12 will lose it. If the shooter rolls something other than those 5 outcomes, your "come" wager is placed on the number of your table, and will pay if the shooter makes that "point" for you. You also have the option of buying odds on that point, the same as putting a behind the line wager on a come-out roll. Obviously, you can't make a "come" wager on the come-out roll.

You can also put money on the field. The field pays even money on any roll of 3,4,9,10,11, and 2 to 1 on 2 or 12. Any other outcome forfeits the field bet. Field bets can be made at any time, but are generally only placed after the come-out roll.

The last place you can put money yourself after the come-out is on the "big 6" and "big 8." These pay even for any roll of 6 or 8 respectively, and stay up until the shooter rolls a 7 or the bettor takes the bet down. Not all casinos have "big 6" and "big 8" on the table.

Other bets require the attention of the croupier and/or other dealers at the table. You may make a place bet on 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 if the shooter has a point to make. These wagers will stay up until the shooter 7's out or until you ask for them to come down. Any time your number is rolled, you'll be paid based on the odds for that number. There are other bets you can make on the "place" numbers, but most are esoteric and generally of little value. If you're playing with enough money, it can be of value to "buy" place numbers, meaning the house charges you a commission (generally about 5%) to pay you the correct odds for those numbers. A dealer can explain the procedure, as it varies from casino to casino. (Often, the dealer will suggest ways to improve a bet for you, for example if you request $20 on 8 he may suggest you buy the number or make your bet a multiple of 6). Remember, the dealers don't have a vested interest in making you lose, they depend on tips from winners to supplement their regular wages.

The other bets you can make are single-roll bets and the "hard ways". These are located in the middle of the table, and are set by the croupier. These bets are generally not subject to the same minimum as the other bets at the table, for example if the "minimum bet" at the table is $20, there will generally be no objections to $5 bets on the single-roll or hardways.

The single-roll bets are fairly simple, and include 7, 2, 3, 11, and 12. "Any craps" is also available as a single-roll bet. These can generally be combined, for example, a "horn" bet can be placed that includes any craps and 11, sometimes known as a "C&E" (craps and 11) bet. A "world" bet can also be placed which is like the C&E but is made in multiples of 5 and is a push on the 7 in exchange for worse odds on the C&E.

Finally there are the "hard ways" bets. These are generally wagered after the come-out roll, and can be made on the 4, 6, 8, and 10. The wager is that the number(s) you take hardway bets on will be rolled showing the same number of pips on each die. These must come out before the shooter 7's out, or before the number is rolled "the easy way," that is, not by having the same number of pips showing on each die.

GETTING INTO THE GAME

Your first time out, you'll probably want to try a low-stakes table with few people playing at it, preferably with a friend who's played before. You'll see a puck either covering up a number at the top of the table or on the "don't come" box. When the puck is in the "don't come" box it means a new shooter is coming up and it's a good time to get some chips. Drop your money on the table and ask the dealer across for you for change. Your money will be boxed, and a stack of chips will be pushed over towards you based on the table minimum and the amount you changed. Take your chips and keep one hand on them at all times; the person next to you may be tempted to snatch a chip or two while you're watching the dice or placing bets if you don't.

BETTING

When you have a new shooter, commonly you'll want to put at least a bet on the pass line or don't pass. Betting "don't pass" is also called betting "wrong," and will occasionally earn you glares from the shooter or other players if they're supersitous. You can also make "one-roll" bets. Personally I generally bet "right" and like to hedge against the shooter rolling craps, so I'll bet the minimum on the pass line and half that on a C&E bet. The math is not totally rational, but if the shooter rolls craps or 11 it pays well, and if the shooter makes a point I can make it back by putting odds on the line bet.

If the shooter has a point to make, I generally put the same amount of my place bet behind the line plus whatever else is needed to get the best payout (important if the point is 6 or 8, as multiples of 6 are generally best behind the line). I often cover all the hard ways with half the table minimum ($5 every hardway at a $10 table). I also like come bets, even though place bets are usually a better value.

ESOTERICA

Craps players are often extremely superstitious, and less often believe they have a "system." The superstitious often have mannerisms or incantations they say over the dice before each throw, including pounding the table or rubbing the dice against the felt. These people will often abruptly leave the table if they notice people betting "wrong" or think that "unlucky" people are at the table, or think the dice are going "cold." These people are generally harmless, and you shouldn't take offense at any strange or rude behavior they might exhibit.

Most of the people in the "system" school can be spotted by their algorithmic approach to betting. A popular "system" involves doubling your come bets every couple throws after the shooter makes a point to hedge against the shooter 7'ing out and get paid on the place numbers. This system, and any such system, is only guaranteed to make losing money at the table more labor-intensive for you.

The minority of people in the "system" school of craps (including me) are convinced that "setting" the dice in a certain way and throwing them in a certain way increases the odds of getting results favorable to the shooter. I have observed people who appear successful in this endeavor, and have myself noticed that consciously setting the dice has better results for me. Further credence is lent to this theory by the fact that many casinos around the world do not allow the practice. While from a scientific standpoint it's highly unlikely that any setting of the dice can affect the outcome at all, we all have our foibles, and this is one of mine.

GO PLAY!

Craps is a game you can only learn by playing. Observe what the people around you are doing and how they bet. I'd like to leave you with a few additional tips for your first time playing:

  • Watch the dealers, if they tell you to do something, or refrain from doing something, you probably should
  • When you shoot, make sure you only touch the dice with one hand, shaking the dice with both hands (obscuring them from view) will earn you some unpleasant attention
  • Watch your own bets. The dealers are only human. If you think a wager of yours should have paid it can't hurt to ask.
  • The terms "snake-eyes" and similar for dice rolls are generally not used, with the exception of "yo." "Yo" means 11.
  • "Nickel" "Dime" and "Quarter" refers to $5, $10, and $25 chips, respectively. Chips are also often referred to by color, for example $1 chips are often white and $5 are often red.

Enjoy the game, and remember: quit while you're ahead! The table will be there next time.

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Craps: The Most Fun You Can Have with Two Dice | 24 comments (22 topical, 2 editorial, 0 hidden)
CowboyNeal?! (3.66 / 9) (#2)
by BehTong on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 01:13:17 PM EST

Shouldn't it be Inoshiro?? This is K5, after all. At least pick on the right person (to be poll-itically correct) ;-)

Beh Tong Kah Beh Si!

Sweet! (2.00 / 1) (#4)
by RareHeintz on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 01:40:27 PM EST

Excellent article. I didn't vote it FP because I didn't feel that its appeal was general enough, but I loved it. Especially because I used to spend downtime at work writing Craps simulations in Perl to try out various betting strategies.

My winning system is available for the bargain price of $19.95 at www.NoMySystemReallyWorks.com...

Just kidding. I should probably whois that domain name just to make sure I'm not sending the gullible to an actual site...

Thanks for writing, ennui.

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Pips! (4.00 / 1) (#5)
by MantorpCity on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 02:57:33 PM EST

and I thought they were just dots

I tried it (4.00 / 3) (#6)
by Frijoles on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 03:11:40 PM EST

I played Craps for the first time a couple of months ago while I was in Vegas.... lost about $50 bucks. :)

A couple of things I learned:

1) Try to hit the end of the table with the dice. I rolled short twice in a row and the dealer told me to throw a little harder.
2) Don't throw too hard. A buddy of mine threw the dice off the table. They don't like that.
3) I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned in the article, but not all bets are equal. For instance, it is $5 for 6/8 (I believe), but $6 for 5/9. I think.. can't remember exactly, but I do remember being told that I didn't have enough money put down.

It was a lot of fun, even though I lost. And the people at the table were very patient with me as they could tell I had never tried. I got a few yelps and such from older guys, "Come on boy! Win me some money!" all in good fun of course. Anyway, I plan on trying again.. perhaps with someone who knows how to play next time. Most cassinos have lessons on how to play, where you bet a penny or some such amount while you are learning. These are usually taught early in the morning though so I have yet to go to one.

Roulette is also fun... lost about $75 on that one from being unclear of the rules. But like I say, I'm there for fun and I had never tried it.

Good article. Confusing as hell, but good.

woo (4.25 / 4) (#7)
by rebelcool on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 03:25:03 PM EST

I was watching the travel channel the other day and they had a special on the various odds of vegas games. The house of course has the advantage in every game, but in Craps they have the least, making it one of the easier games to win money at (compared to say, Roulette where the house has an enormous advantage)

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House edge (4.00 / 1) (#8)
by Ludwig on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 06:10:47 PM EST

If I remember correctly, blackjack has the potentially smallest house edge, but you have to play perfectly to achieve that, and the rules differ from place to place. There's not much skill involved in craps -- the odds of a given outcome are the same for every throw. Come to think of it, that's probably why there's such a bewildering array of wagering options: it disguises the least disadvantageous methods of betting with all sorts of long-odds trifecta-style bullshit.

I don't think the house has any innate edge on sports book, but whether that's properly considered a casino game is open to debate.

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Best odds are at the pokies (none / 0) (#9)
by smallstepforman on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 06:25:16 PM EST

Trust me, I'm an insider, and the best odds are from the spinning reel pokie machines. Depending on jurasdiction, the lowest player return is 87%, and for high denomination machines it can go up to 95%. If the pokies are linked to a jackpot system, the average player return is lower, but the jackpot brings back the average to 87-95%.

By percentage I mean for every $100 bet you get $87-$95 back. All other games like roulette, blackjack, craps etc have much better odds for the house.

[ Parent ]
Table games (4.66 / 3) (#12)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 09:44:04 PM EST

Casinos actually set their own payout ratios for slots so this will vary depending on where you go. There is also a minimum payout required by law, 75% I think in Nevada.

Even if every slot were set at 95% payout, this would be a whole lot worse than blackjack, craps, and baccarat. If you play blackjack using the basic strategy, the house edge is around 0.43%. It varies slightly because of different house rules. House edge on a craps pass line bet is 1.41%. With double odds that decreases to .606%.

So, for every $100 you bet on a pass line taking 2x odds, you get back $99.40 on average. Not too shabby. Slots are in general a much worse bet than table games, if you don't make sucker bets. The ONLY bets you should make in craps are: Pass/Don't pass, Come/Don't come, and place bets on 6 and 8.

Reference: The Wizard of Odds, a required site for anyone who takes casino games seriously.

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House odds/edge (4.00 / 1) (#11)
by Woundweavr on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 09:36:47 PM EST

Just for reference, here's the odds with craps(with all the various bets) and most other casino games.

The House always wins "The house's edge Casino Gambling" from thewizardofodds

[ Parent ]

Keeping track of your come and place bets (4.50 / 8) (#10)
by localroger on Fri Jan 25, 2002 at 07:10:15 PM EST

One mystery beginners can't fathom is how the dealers (and players) keep track of whose bets are whose when the table is covered with cheques. Here's the scoop.

There is a row of squares before the dealer representing the place numbers 4,5,6,8,9, and 10. When you make a place bet or a come bet that travels, the dealer places it on either the front or back side of the number.

Your dealer will be servicing half the table; his territory will consist of one end of the table and half the front, between the corner ("hook") and the center where the stickman stands. The system is: bets from players at the front of the table are placed on the front of the number, according to the position of the player. Similarly, players on the end of the table get their bets positioned along the back of the number.

The row of numbers has a wide double edge. If you make a place bet, it's centered on this edge zone. If your come bet travels, it's placed inside the border. Finally, if you place odds on your come bet, they're stacked above the original wager but offset from it. This is subtle from the table but quite obvious for the cameras.

Once you know the system, you can easily keep track of how much money you have in action. This is important because if you're betting "right," like the author, you tend to make bet after bet which win individually -- but all lose at once if the shooter rolls seven. It's easy to get in over your head and get wiped out.

This is one reason (other than perversity) that some people prefer to bet don't; there your bets get knocked down one at a time, but they all win at once.

When I was gambling craps was my favorite game. It's the best value in the casino if you stick to pass, come, and placing the 6 and 8. Arm noogies to the author for making those "insurance" crap bets -- the house edge on a $1 any crap is higher than the edge on the $5 line bet you're "insuring." Follow Frank Sclobete's advice and pretend that the center of the table doesn't exist.

I can haz blog!

localroger (4.00 / 1) (#19)
by MicroBerto on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 01:32:44 PM EST

And remember, this guy knows his stuff.

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Importan tips (4.00 / 2) (#13)
by evil roy on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 01:52:07 AM EST

Do NOT make the 'centre' bets . They are sucker bets. (ie) hard ways , any craps ,

DO NOT make 'field' bets - see reason above

DO NOT make Big 6/8 bets - ditto

So your bets are limited.

Easiest are the come bets. Take the odds. Get some confidence - you will place 6&8 and maybe other numbers - you will learn terms like same bet , press it (double up the winnings) and take it down.

You will see other people 'buying' odds on numbers - not recommended due to difficult strategy requirements rather than poor odds.


But above all - do not make sucker bets. At all, Ever.

Big 6/8 (none / 0) (#22)
by Woundweavr on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 05:18:00 PM EST

Actually 6/8 Bets have the best chance to win in any casino game except video poker. You only lose ~$1 for every $100 bet.

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Big 6/8 (none / 0) (#23)
by evil roy on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 06:48:01 PM EST

They pay evens. You can get better odds only 30 cm away by placing 6 & 8 .

The big 6/8 is for people who

1. Can't be bothered betting in multiples of 6
or
2. Feel intimidated on a busy table and just want to get a bet on and be a part of it all.

Either way , the price is too high.

If you want to bet evens , try red/black on the roulette wheel. The margin for the house is smaller.

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Gambling For Dummies (2.40 / 5) (#14)
by genman on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 03:01:36 AM EST


Could someone please explain why intelligent people gamble, despite knowing the odds are never in their favor? Additionally, craps is not a game of skill: What's the entertainment in these simple games? For those who play for the experience and thrill, I suppose that in of itself is worth losing money for.

It seems to me, if you enjoying gambling, and understand statistics, you ought to take up day trading stocks. At least the odds are ambiguous, and you don't look so stupid to us non-gamblers.

Geeks who carry good luck charms, moon rings, superstitious beliefs, religious faith, lottery tickets; you should be ashamed. Having fun with it is one thing, but never admit you actually believe in any of it.

Gambling is boring (none / 0) (#15)
by Stick on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 06:56:10 AM EST

I never saw the appeal of gambling. I could do much more worthwhile things in the time that could be spent rolling a couple of dice in the hope of winning some money. Of course, I was never one to really care about money (that doesn't mean I'm not wise with it).


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Day trading is much more dangerous than craps (4.75 / 4) (#16)
by localroger on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 10:41:14 AM EST

Why people gamble: The house edge is invisible. That's why you see so many articles reminding you that it exists. It is superimposed on huge swings which are what gamblers really notice, and which occur regardless of whether the edge is small, large, or even in your favor.

When you are winning, the money rolls in much faster than it ever could at a legitimate enterprise. This is true regardless of how much money you can make yourself legitimately, because you will be betting some modest fraction that feels both comfortable and worthwhile to you. When you get lucky, an evening's play will net you the equivalent of months or years of income.

Of course you can also lose; you will lose more often than you win. But while you can win more money than you have you generally can't lose more than you came with. So your losses are less noticeable. It's a psychological trick that makes casino owners rich; you notice the wins more, they feel more real. This is especially true if you have early luck when you begin gambling.

Stock trading is much more dangerous for a gambling addict than gambling in a casino, and that's saying a lot. People tend to put money into the stock market that they can't afford to lose, and do things like trading on margin and shorting stocks where you can lose more than you invest. At least in the casino you can find out what the odds are. Because the industry is considered shady, there are regulations to keep the house from cheating.

Meanwhile, who would have thought that a certain stock worth $90 a share not long ago would now be worthless?

I can haz blog!
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I'd be happy to! (4.33 / 3) (#17)
by Wondertoad on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 11:30:28 AM EST

If you think of the house advantage as the price of admission, there is little difference between gambling and watching a Hollywood movie. Both involve paying a little, then engaging in a little suspension of disbelief for the purpose of entertainment.

Sure, in the long run, that house edge will (probably) get you. But in any particular session of gambling, if you walk up with $100, and the house says the accumulated bets you make are going to earn the house $10., there is very little chance you'll walk away with $90. Much more likely you'll be up and down during your time there, and the unusual outcomes are very exciting. If ten times you walk away with nothing, and one time you walk away with $900, you experience that same house edge but with an unusual and entertaining twist.

Furthermore, when you look at human behavior, you can't deny that there is an attraction towards dangerous, risky behavior. It differs from person to person, but most people enjoy living on the edge a little. The casino is a remarkably controlled risk compared to some other ways that people approach that edge. Some people push their cars to the edge; some people do illegal drugs; some people put an extra dollop of butter in their desserts. Comparitively speaking, the risk in walking out of a casino with an empty wallet is not so bad. You're probably not going to die from it.


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An Example (4.00 / 1) (#21)
by Hobbes2100 on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 04:53:33 PM EST

Years ago I went to the Bahamas for several days. My brother and I ended up in the hotel casino.

I walked into the casino with about $150. I ended up playing roulette for about five hours, playing slots for about one, and playing poker for another hour or so. So, without any other considerations, I "payed" $150 dollars for about eight hours of entertainment.

Now, compare this to say, a trip to the movies. I would have spent about 4 * $8 dollars for 4 movie tickets. With a date and popcorn, you can bump this to 4 * $24 or so. So, say $100 bucks for 8 hours at the movie theater (yes, you can do it more cheaply; my point is that it is a common form of entertainment). For another comparison, compare the price of some professional sports tickets.

So, at this point we're not looking so good. Well, there's also the fact that the casino I was in was feeding me drinks for free while I played. Now, this is definitely in their best interests. Gettings their patrons drunk will make them less interested in their losses, more likely to tip the waitresses/dealers, and generally make the atmosphere more festive.

Anyway, I probably had 15 or more drinks that night. I honestly don't remember ... I do remember the struggle, at 4:00 in the morning, to find the elevator which was through a hallway, past some stores, up an escalator, and across the lobby from where I was. So, say 15 drinks at $4 a piece (which is slightly on the low side if you're not drinking beers) and $1 tip per drink. So, 15 * $5 gives us (me) about a $75 value.

Finally, we have 7 hours of entertainment + a $75 dollar bar tab for $150 bucks. So, make that 7 (or 8) hours of entertainment for $75 bucks. And, the whole time you get to disdain the "root of all evil" ... money. In addition, I was able to drink all sorts of weird stuff you will normally get a dumb stare from a waitress for here at home (I got to try, um, several grasshoppers there *grin* ).

Are their better uses for the money? Yes, I could have donated $75 dollars to the Red Cross and spent eight hours at a blood drive, but hey, this was my vaction (graduation from high school present, none the less)!

Oh, yeah, at some point I pocketed a $20 chip, so I didn't walk out broke.

Regards,
Mark
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But who will guard the guardians themselves? -- Juvenal
[ Parent ]

Sometimes player has edge. (2.50 / 2) (#18)
by mattmcp on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 11:55:08 AM EST

If you can count a deck of cards (which isn't terribly difficult, only requires practice) then when you sit down to a Blackjack game, the odds are actually in your favour. From what I can tell, the only thing keeping more people from playing Blackjack well is ignorance. Some think it's illegal to count cards and others think you need to be Rainman. Neither is the case.

Also, I believe that certain casinos' rules produce a craps game that slightly favours the player if they play correctly. Craps is the only table game like this (if you're not counting cards) that I know of.

[ Parent ]

No beatable craps games (4.50 / 2) (#20)
by localroger on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 04:40:50 PM EST

There is no standard variant of Craps which can be beaten by the player in the long run.

Some Roulette wheels can be beaten if statistical analysis ("clocking") reveals that the wheel is defective. A loose fret may cause the ball to favor certain numbers. It's perfectly legal for you to exploit such a wheel if you find it, but not to loosen the fret yourself :-)

Some people have reported varying degrees of success beating Roulette by timing the ball's movement and predicting its trajectory. As this requires electronic timing devices it is illegal nearly everywhere due to "anti-device" legislation.

You can also "count comps," that is use strategies to encourage your play to be recorded at a higher level than it really is, so that the comps you're given will add up to more than you expect to lose.

Any scheme to beat any casino game requires a (usually substantial) bankroll, as your edge will be superimposed on outrageous positive and negative swings, which you must be prepared to withstand.

I can haz blog!
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I think fun has something to do with it (4.33 / 3) (#24)
by anagram on Sat Jan 26, 2002 at 08:59:33 PM EST

I can't speak for hard-core gamblers, but I went to the racetrack (horses) for the first time recently and it was well worth it. Sure I was betting on some 30 - 1 odds at times, but seeing as how there were nine races that day, and the minimum bet was 2 bucks, a whole day out having fun with my friends and watching horses run really fast cost me only 20 bucks. I'm hard pressed to find many things that can occupy me and my friends for a whole day in san fransisco for only 20 bucks.

When we play poker, with nickle-dime-quarter bets, we can stay up until 3am playing poker and only have to put 5 bucks in at the start of the game. Playing for money, even if it's just change, makes it worth playing because then there is a point to it. Like keeping score.

I see your point, though. Slot machines are just dumb, in my opinion. Nothing could be more boring to me. I could have more fun putting change into arcade games than slot machines.

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