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Chad and Tattoo

By salvy in Culture
Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 12:14:32 PM EST
Tags: Interviews (all tags)

I step inside Revolution Tattoo and Body Piercing on 45th street, and am somewhat taken aback to find myself encountering a setting, which, with little revision, could pass for a dentist's office.

Of course, all the framed poster examples of tattoos would need to come down. And the iconic bric-a-brac, including a portly Buddha and a feathered dragon, that clutters a few cabinet-tops has little place in a practical office. A bicycle hangs from the ceiling, yet the tattoo parlor has a sterile aura about it. Florescent lighting and a sign stating "STAFF ONLY" on a three-foot barrier that halves the room add to this perception. I look back into the twilight and feel glad of the unexpected comfort of a warm, well-lighted place. Prepared as I was for the dimly lit, hackneyed tattoo parlor, Revolution Tattoo and Body Piercing, as well as its employees, present a surprising impression about the artistry revealed in ink, in the skin.

I have come to meet Chad Hartgrave, a tattoo artist. Chad is taller than I am—at about six feet—with a dark goatee and intelligent smile. He has his hands in the pockets of black jeans, which, along with a "Sludgeplow Loud Band" shirt, cover up what he tells me are at least twenty tattoos. I wonder if his black beanie is hiding a tattoo as well; I can see one wrapped around his neck, which looks like it has petals, and several up and down his forearms. An alien disembarking from a space ship on his kneecap remains his favorite, though. Chad also has nose and ear piercings, but he doesn't seem like the standard tattoo artist/heavy metal bass player.

Until three years ago he ran his own custom tattoo business, which went under when he broke up with his girlfriend. Chad's tattoo work had to become his dominant focus, but he still manages to play with two heavy metal bands in town. Arms folded against his chest, Chad leans against the Dutch door on the "STAFF ONLY" side where all tattooing occurs, a little tired looking, and resigned. Perhaps he just stayed up too late jamming with one of his bands. Chad has been playing bass since he was nine, which is his release from work. If it weren't for music, he would burn out on tattooing, and vice versa.

Tattoo remains Chad's true interest, and he appreciates his repeat clients. Having only joined Revolution a short while ago, he keeps most of his regulars from before. As we begin the interview, he is wiping down a black leather chair from his most recent customer, taking pains to explain the whole tattoo procedure to me.

"Everything is one-time-use only. Ink, gloves and needles are all individual. The tubes in the needle guns go through ultrasound and autoclaving." On average, he gets about one customer per day, so he likes to take his time preparing a sanitary environment for each.

Wondering what he does with all that spare time, I ask, "Do you do any body piercing besides your tattooing?"

"No. But Brad there could talk your ear off about it," he says indicating his boss. "I want to do one thing and do it well. I only know a few people in the industry who do both and pull it off; most people have their priorities, anyway." Brad, who shares Chad's tattoo station, waves from behind the front desk. On it lie scattered portfolios of tattoos and a telephone. Beyond that point, shelves strewn with books and figurines stand near a paneled changing screen. Next to those an open doorway, with a sign above it advertising "Body Piercing", leads to another room. Chad mentions that there are more women giving piercings than tattoos, although still greatly outnumbered by the men. He can't say why.

"What's your favorite tattoo to draw, then?" I want to know.

"Let me show you my portfolio," he offers, grabbing it from the front desk. It is filled with various designs, many of which are influenced by a Japanese style. He doesn't draw people or traditional designs like flaming hearts. The one he is working on right now, his current favorite, is of a large Japanese-looking dog that will soon wrap around a man's arm. Behind his station hangs another creation: a great goldfish surrounded by white-crested waves.

Chad shows me another picture of a small upside-down crescent tattooed on a girl's forehead. "That was the weirdest one I ever drew," he says, "I tried to make it look as realistic as possible, with the silver and blue shading. It took me only ten minutes, but it took a lot of energy, too." Working on faces seems strange to him; he has only done about five or six in the year he's worked at Revolution.

"And the dumbest tattoo you've ever done?"

"Whenever a girl comes in here asking me to tattoo a man's name on her, I always ask if it's her dad. I try and talk her out of it." Although Chad refuses to tattoo someone who is drunk, he remains surprised that sober people want tattoos of names put on themselves. Names, he thinks, are not creative, and as the canvas, the customer should be embarrassed.

"So what makes up for all these dumb people who want names drawn on them? What is your favorite part about tattooing?"

"I feel honored that some customers come only to me for their tattoos, because they're like walking art galleries. Tattoos are art on the skin that will be there forever, longer than any jewelry or clothing." I see all the energy he puts into his work, and feel respect for Chad as an artist, understanding how much of an art form tattoo can be.


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Chad and Tattoo | 71 comments (55 topical, 16 editorial, 0 hidden)
Any pictures of his work available? (nt) (4.00 / 1) (#3)
by Elendur on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 03:58:39 AM EST

mmmm. i don't think so (none / 0) (#23)
by salvy on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 01:04:18 PM EST

wish i could help you with this one, but he doesn't have internet pics. maybe i could grab some for you and scan them if you're really interested... but otherwise, i think no.

[ Parent ]
Tattoo Parlours (4.75 / 4) (#6)
by ChiefHoser on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 08:40:42 AM EST

The tattoo parlour I went to was also not a dingy dirty place. It was really well kept with pictures of the artists past works adorning the walls. The guy was a true biker in every sense of the word, but he was very friendly and showed me how it all worked, showed me the new needle, etc, etc, etc. It was very different than I thought it would be. I now want another one, tattoo's are addictive and I think I will be going to get one in the next 2 months or so.

Chief of the Hosers
Tats (5.00 / 4) (#9)
by The Devil on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 10:04:53 AM EST

I decided long ago only to get one tatoo only. It was of a design I created while sitting there in the parlor waiting for a free seat. I knew it was something I would want forever to be part of me. I think under these circumstances it is the best thought to tattoo something of meaning rather than something for show. I think, though, that it's really *your call* when you want to put something on your skin for life. Who are we to judge the guy with Taz? My own tattoo has deep philisophical meaning and it is not recognizable as anything but a symbol of understanding and knowledge. These are things that mean something to *me*.

Why I don't do body modification / tattooing: (4.83 / 6) (#11)
by Kasreyn on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 10:18:46 AM EST

I change too much over the years. I can't in honesty think of an image or design or symbol or word that I'm sure I won't "grow out of". And I hear laser tattoo removal hurts like a bitch.

As far as I can tell, my personality has yet to finally and permanently "gel" for life, even though I'm long since considered an "adult" by most people. Once my personality seems to me to have been stable for at least 5 years, I might risk getting tattooed. I think too many people rush into getting tattooed / pierced, and regret it when they're older. I intend to avoid that fate.

As for piercings and suchlike, never in a million years. Why should I pay someone to punch holes in my body? I intend to die with only as many holes as I was born with. (unless I get shot) =P


"Extenuating circumstance to be mentioned on Judgement Day:
We never asked to be born in the first place."

R.I.P. Kurt. You will be missed.
Permanent body mods (4.50 / 2) (#16)
by BrentN on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 10:52:03 AM EST

I'd love to get some ink done myself, were it not for the horrid permanency of the act. Personally, I think the bloke who invents a biodegradable tattoo ink will make a mint.

Think about it - a tattoo that would fade after 6-8 months. It not only means more business for the tattoo artists (repeat customers!), but it also means that the art can go more mainstream.

This would, of course, make the -real- rebels seek more unusual modifications.

[ Parent ]

Yeah, some of them are really scary (4.00 / 2) (#17)
by Kasreyn on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 11:04:57 AM EST

I have an image on my hard drive which I've named merely "OUCH.jpg".

It's a picture from the rear of a woman with piercings, with rings in them, in a double vertical row up her back, with flared ends. Think of two parallel vertical lines whose ends flare away from each other; along these lines are about 6 piercings on each side, with rings through them.

Then someone drew a ribbon through the rings, shoelace fashion, drew it horrifyingly tight, and tied it off. A built-in body corset. It makes me wince whenever I look at it.



"Extenuating circumstance to be mentioned on Judgement Day:
We never asked to be born in the first place."

R.I.P. Kurt. You will be missed.
[ Parent ]
Re: Yeah, some of them are really scary (5.00 / 2) (#26)
by elemental on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 01:58:48 PM EST

Ahh yes, a corset piercing.

This is a temporary piercing. Surface piercings like this have a high rate of migration. In other words, over time the jewelry will work its way closer to the surface and eventually have to be removed.

I've seen pictures of a few women with this but have only seen one in person.

I love my country but I fear my government.
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[ Parent ]
It it just for appearance, (none / 0) (#32)
by Kasreyn on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 02:31:49 PM EST

or does it have the actual effect of a corset?

Either way, it sure looks painful as all bloody hell. =\


"Extenuating circumstance to be mentioned on Judgement Day:
We never asked to be born in the first place."

R.I.P. Kurt. You will be missed.
[ Parent ]
Re: It it just for appearance (3.00 / 2) (#36)
by elemental on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 07:05:23 PM EST

Oh, strictly for looks. The woman I met with it was wearing an open-backed dress with a matching ribbon through the rings. It actually looked pretty cool (if you're into that sort of thing).

I can't imagine someone actually trying to constrict their waist using piercings like this. Take a look at the skin around the rings in the pictures, you can see how much stress, if any, is on them.

I love my country but I fear my government.
--> Contact info on my web site --

[ Parent ]
it exists. (5.00 / 1) (#45)
by joshsisk on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 12:37:14 PM EST

Robert Deniro was tattooed with vegetable based inks for Cape Fear. They faded after a few months.

But I imagine they still leave a raised "bumpy" area. I've dated several girls with tattoos and you can usually feel the difference of the tattooed skin and the non-tattooed. But I guess that probably depends on other factors.
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[ Parent ]

"Permanent" is a relative term (none / 0) (#49)
by tedoneill on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 07:50:54 PM EST

I went to a dermatologist to have my tattoo removed with a laser. The now long-forgotten mediocre hardcore band and cheesy imagery was then hidden by the worst cover-up you can imagine. All almost completely gone. Black comes out very nicely, red disappeared, a little bit of light blue remained, but that almost looks like a vein, so it is no big deal. The give away is some of the raised bumps and the fact that the area tans differently. Still, it is much better than it was.


"Always be wary of any helpful item which weighs less than its operating manual." -- Terry Pratchett
[ Parent ]

Strange (3.00 / 1) (#29)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 02:05:12 PM EST

Once my personality seems to me to have been stable for at least 5 years, I might risk getting tattooed. [...] As for piercings and suchlike, never in a million years. Why should I pay someone to punch holes in my body?

Because it's their job?

Why would you consider paying someone to squeeze ink into your body?

Piercings are considerably less permanent than tattoos. If you'd ever consider deliberately doing something which might cause you to be injured (sports, DIY, driving, crossing the road etc.), that's not so far removed from getting something pierced.

Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]

nice (3.00 / 1) (#39)
by auraslip on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 07:45:12 PM EST

but don't waste your breath, even if you ARE incredibly correct and coherant if IT'S BEEN SAID FIVE MILLION TIMES BEFORE.
thank you.
[ Parent ]
I don't think of it as something to 'grow out of'. (none / 0) (#42)
by last chance on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 04:18:05 AM EST

I'd like to get a tattoo sometime this summer, if I can settle on a design.  Just getting a tattoo is an experience in itself, something I'd like to explore.  

My ideal tattoo is going to be small, and placed so that it can be easily hidden if I want (ie. not like the paw prints on Eve's boobs).  I also refuse to have anything that is decidedly trendy, such as a butterfly, a Chinese character, or those random tribal-looking swooshes.  I want it to be something personal, meaningful, and beautiful at the same time...this is probably why it's taking me forever to get one.

I don't think I'd ever regret a tattoo, or think of it as something I would grow out of.  As long as it's tasteful, a true piece of art, I'm pretty sure I'd be able to look at it as a nice reminder of old times.

So, while I'd love to get one and wouldn't hesitate at the thought, I'll probably never settle on a satisfactory design.  Bleh.

[ Parent ]

Not such a big deal really (none / 0) (#52)
by 0xA on Sun Jun 29, 2003 at 05:48:17 AM EST

I got my first tattoo a couple years ago. I had been thinking about it for a while but never did anything about it. On a rather drunken weekend visit to Victoria with friends I spotted a tattoo parlor and went in. I looked around for a couple minutes and spotted something that struck me as rather amusing, 30 minutes later I had a tattoo.

I was drunk, no question. I have an odd sense of humor at the best of times as well. Almost everyone who has seen my tattoo and been told what it means thinks it is stupid. I have a rather poor translation of the word tattoo written on my upper arm in chinese characters. Hell even I think it is stupid.

On the other hand I don't think it's a big deal either. It's not something you see unless I am not wearing a shirt. This is not the only reason I don't have a successful carreer as an underware model. IT's just some dumb thing on my arm.

Also, to be fair I think I should say that I am pretty sure that the tattoo artist did not known I was drunk. For some reason I can be far past the point where my judgement is impaired and not look or act like I've been drinking at all. I don't hold him responsible in any way.

[ Parent ]

-1 (1.57 / 7) (#20)
by Hellraisr on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 11:55:39 AM EST

You forgot to mention all the drugs they do behind the "STAFF ONLY" door.

hmmm (4.50 / 2) (#31)
by robot138 on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 02:28:18 PM EST

Oddly enough, most of the tattoo artists I know don't do any drugs at work...or work on anyone that's drunk/high.

[ Parent ]
Does anyone know of a list of good tattoo parlors (none / 0) (#24)
by asad on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 01:12:09 PM EST

For example if you want to get a tattoo in teh SF bay area, there are a lot of shops, how do you figure out which one is good and which one is crap ?  

SF Bay Area Shops (5.00 / 1) (#30)
by robot138 on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 02:19:25 PM EST

Shops I've gotten work (and what it was): 1) Tattoo 13 in Oakland. Telegraph and 51st by the Walgreens. (in progress 3/4 sleeve on my right arm from Chummy). Damn nice guys, especially Chummy and Hector 2) Mom's Body Shop in SF. Haight and Ashbury perhaps? (nautical star inside my left elbow by Barnaby). Clean, but lots of touristy kids it seemed. They do good work from seeing other's pieces from there. 3) Temple Tattoo in Oakland. 17th and Harrison? (nothing yet, but they are the parent shop for Tattoo 13, and I've been really impressed by everyone's work that they've gotten there). 4-??) There are tons of good shops in the area. Go look at the artists' books, ask questions, watch them tattoo other folks. Most of the artists are nice and willing to spend a bit of time talking to someone who's never gotten work before, explaining things. If you have a bad feeling about a shop, don't get work there. Period.

[ Parent ]
Go (none / 0) (#33)
by ad hoc on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 04:03:44 PM EST

to a convention. I'm sure there's one near you sometime during the year. It's a good place to see many all at once to see who are the good and average artists.


[ Parent ]
Another good one is (none / 0) (#38)
by pako on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 07:08:25 PM EST

Erno's Tattoo on Fillmore at Haight. Sister shop to main one in Santa Cruz (don't know if that one still exists). The artists rotate through there, but Greg Kulz has been there for a long time - he's the who inked the lady on cover of Modern Primitives and inside the book, there's a profile about him.

  • they came in the clothes that i'm in and through the phone in my wall. they're strangers.
    [ Parent ]
  • Why I'd never EVER get a tattoo (4.75 / 4) (#25)
    by Silent Chris on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 01:49:22 PM EST

    I can't think of a symbol I would ever want to permanently identify myself with.  Sure, you may feel strongly about a case or topic now, but how about 5 years down the road?  10?  When you're on your deathbed?

    The alternative is to get something really nebulous, like the Japanese character for "luck" tattoo'd to your arm.  Why?  Am I'm saying I'm lucky?  I'm permanently lucky?  

    Especially in this day and age, permanence for all intensive purposes doesn't exist.  Goods break down in months, not years, people change their political affiliations yearly, etc.  I can't think of anything permanent that would identify me (except for maybe "human", but not even that is set in stone).

    Re: Why I'd never EVER get a tattoo (3.66 / 3) (#27)
    by elemental on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 02:02:27 PM EST

    When you're on your deathbed?

    When I'm on my deathbed I think I'll probably have other things on my mind. After all, being that close to death means I won't have those tattoos much longer anyway.

    I love my country but I fear my government.
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    [ Parent ]
    Deathbeds are dangerous (5.00 / 1) (#71)
    by c4miles on Fri Jul 04, 2003 at 07:41:28 AM EST

    Why they still allow the manufacture of these items I do not know.
    For the Snark was a Boojum, you see.
    [ Parent ]
    why i got my tattoo (5.00 / 3) (#34)
    by psxndc on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 04:32:45 PM EST

    I completely understand what you're saying. My friend got a metallica tattoo before the whole napster-thing. I don't know how he feels about it now, but I really wonder. My tattoo though is something not entirely nebulous, but is not something I feel that I will change my mind about.

    Before I get into it, just read the whole thing before saying "oh please" because, when written down, comes across really poorly: I have a fraternity tattoo. I did not get it because anybody made me (or even suggested it), I didn't get it while drunk, and I certainly didn't get it on a whim. See, I had been in the fraternity for 2 years (pledged freshmen year) when I started thinking about getting it. The fraternity had really changed the way I thought about the world, and I don't mean in a brainwashed sort of way. It taught me how to accept others, how to work with others, even if we didn't see eye to eye, and it taught me responsibility (being the president (aka "goto guy") when the shit hits the fan for 30 guys will do that). The fraternity had nothing but positive influences on my life and when I fell down, whether pushed or of my own accord, the fraternity was always there to pick me back up. More than anything else, the fraternity redefined the way I looked at myself. After thinking about it for a year, I decided that the fraternity and it's importance to me was something I never wanted to forget.

    Now the argument can be made that I don't need a tattoo to do that, and that is a fair statement. But to quote Ferris Bueller: "Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around, you just might miss it". Well when I glance down at my ankle, whether it's putting on my shoes, or whatever, I stop and smile and remember that I am who I am in part becuase of my fraternity and I'm pretty damn glad I haven't forgotten that.


    [ Parent ]

    Please! (none / 0) (#40)
    by Vesperto on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 10:23:14 PM EST

    My friend got a metallica tattoo before the whole napster-thing. I don't know how he feels about it now, but I really wonder. Please do try to find out, i'm curious to :)

    Did anyone get a Napster tatoo?

    La blua plago!
    [ Parent ]

    yeah, i did. [nt] (none / 0) (#41)
    by rmg on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 10:54:03 PM EST

    _____ intellectual tiddlywinks
    [ Parent ]

    ugh. pet peeve: "intensive purposes" (3.66 / 3) (#35)
    by nyet on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 07:03:43 PM EST

    "intents and purposes"

    [ Parent ]
    for all intensive purposes (5.00 / 4) (#37)
    by Kragg on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 07:08:19 PM EST

    Sorry dude... I hate to poke fun at you, but you really need to be told - most people say 'all intents and purposes.'

    Reminds me of a guy at slashdot who kept saying 'anotherwards' in his comments...
    "How can one learn to know oneself? Never by introspection, rather by action. Try to do your duty, and you will know right away what you are like." -- Goethe, Willhelm Meister's Travels.
    [ Parent ]

    That's nothing (none / 0) (#54)
    by Verminator on Sun Jun 29, 2003 at 03:20:03 PM EST

    I had a cousin that used to say "fork" when on the golfcourse.

    If the whole country is gonna play 'Behind The Iron Curtain,' there better be some fine fucking state s
    [ Parent ]

    In my defense (none / 0) (#68)
    by Silent Chris on Tue Jul 01, 2003 at 09:33:34 AM EST

    I've heard it used (incorrectly) by others.  Actually, the definitions wouldn't be too different (just in mine, the purposes are more intense  :)  ).

    [ Parent ]
    Your past is permanent (5.00 / 1) (#51)
    by tcdk on Sun Jun 29, 2003 at 04:07:49 AM EST

    I was part of a gothic/industrial subsculture about 10 years ago. For lots of different reasons I decided to leave this crowd, but it had still been a bit part of me for a long time.

    Being with this crowd for 6-7 years, was a fantastic time and even if I decided to leave I was still a goth at heart - probably still am in a lot of ways. I wanted to have something extra to remember this by.

    So I got a tattoo - it's the only one I got, I waited a year from I decided on it, before I got it (if you cant wait for a year, before you do something that will stick with you the rest of your life, you are doing it for the wrong reason - be it kids, marrige or a tattoo).

    So I used a tattoo as a turning point. It marked the end of an era for me.
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    [ Parent ]

    What about a tattoo of an Xbox? [nt] (none / 0) (#64)
    by faustus on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 10:18:05 PM EST

    [ Parent ]
    Yuck (none / 0) (#67)
    by Silent Chris on Tue Jul 01, 2003 at 09:32:25 AM EST

    You kidding?  That's like having a swastika.

    [ Parent ]
    Maybe you haven't done anything enduring... (5.00 / 1) (#65)
    by JanusAurelius on Tue Jul 01, 2003 at 02:38:47 AM EST

    ...like practice a martial art with a master. Or study physics with some inspired colleagues. ::Insert deep-thought here.::

    There *are* facets of culture in this world that last longer than others, and most of the time, you won't find them in pop culture. ;)

    [ Parent ]
    My body art (4.66 / 3) (#28)
    by chrimble on Fri Jun 27, 2003 at 02:04:22 PM EST

    Personally, I love all the body art I've slowly accrued over the past eleven years. I've changed a lot during that time (got a job, a wife, and several wonderful kids), but I've never regretted a single piece, and am looking forward to expanding my collection over the coming years.

    There's no rush.

    Of course, it's not for everyone (and I wouldn't expect it to be) but providing you get into it for yourself rather than anybody else, you'd be surprised as to how much you get out of it and the attachment you feel to each piece.

    Certainly, it's easier than keeping a diary. ;-)

    Why (insert K5 reader) would never get a tattoo... (2.25 / 4) (#43)
    by splitpeasoup on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 11:14:43 AM EST

    ...because K5 readers are nerds.


    "Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

    hahaha (none / 0) (#46)
    by salvy on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 02:03:15 PM EST

    how long have you been a k5 reader yourself?

    [ Parent ]
    Why (insert jerk) always gets a tattoo... (3.00 / 2) (#47)
    by Silent Chris on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 02:07:01 PM EST

    ...because a Limp Bizkit tattoo will still be cool in 20 years.  Won't it?

    [ Parent ]
    No... (none / 0) (#62)
    by splitpeasoup on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 02:55:38 PM EST

    ...you're missing the point. Cool People don't care about 20 years from now. If the tattoo is cool now, that's all that matters.

    I don't want to sound like I'm being ironic or dissing the Cool People. I envy them, and I'm a little sad that I can't be Cool myself.


    "Be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi
    [ Parent ]

    Tattoos must be nerdy (none / 0) (#57)
    by Merekat on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 05:21:54 AM EST

    Look, there's an FAQ. Definitely nerdy then.

    More seriously, it is a good, pretty thorough and reasonably balanced account of things you might want to know if you are considering a tattoo.
    I've always had the greatest respect for other peoples crack-pot beliefs.
    - Sam the Eagle, The Muppet Show
    [ Parent ]

    I've got one. (none / 0) (#58)
    by Cackmobile on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 09:58:32 AM EST

    Its a nerdy tat so its kind of fitting.

    [ Parent ]
    That's not a goldfish (2.00 / 1) (#48)
    by trendwhore on Sat Jun 28, 2003 at 05:49:23 PM EST

    It's a coi fish. Yeah, they're pretty much the same but if you go into a tattoo shop and ask for a goldfish you'll get laughed at.

    Hollow words will burn and hollow men will burn
    I thought it out... (5.00 / 2) (#50)
    by Kaki Nix Sain on Sun Jun 29, 2003 at 12:07:26 AM EST

    ... and determined that the best place for a tattoo would be the bottom of my foot. One, no one will really ever see the bottom of your foot, including yourself, if you don't want them too. Two, it is socially acceptable to show someone the bottom of your foot, if you so choose, in a great many settings.

    Unfortunately, they don't put tattoos there because the skin sheds too fast and the image would quickly distort. Oh well.

    Recently I was impressed by a tattoo that was a stereogram. That would be neat to have.

    Then I started wondering what sort of useful tattoos one could have. If one could theoretically get one half of a slide rule on one arm, and the other on the other arm, and do swift calculations.

    Mark of the nerd (4.00 / 1) (#55)
    by aechols on Sun Jun 29, 2003 at 07:03:43 PM EST

    Why not see how many digits of pi can fit on a person?  Just be sure to triple-check each digit before putting it on...

    "Oh crap, that's supposed to be a 2. *bzzzzz* Eh, close enough."

    Are you pondering what I'm pondering?
    [ Parent ]

    ow! (none / 0) (#56)
    by robot138 on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 01:05:07 AM EST

    just a thought on the bottom of the foot thing. damn that would suck to have while it healed...healing my ditch (inside of elbow) was bad enough due to the movement, but having to put weight or shoes on a healing piece....that's extra tough.

    [ Parent ]
    Yeah... (none / 0) (#60)
    by Kaki Nix Sain on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 12:56:02 PM EST

    ... I worried over that point a bit. But it isn't really so bad, since one can greatly reduce the amount that one uses a single foot without too much trouble. Just wrap it up with some padding, get a crutch or a really good cane, and away you go.

    [ Parent ]

    good point...(nt) (none / 0) (#61)
    by robot138 on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 12:59:52 PM EST


    [ Parent ]
    seen it on "Beg, Borrow, and Deal" (none / 0) (#66)
    by jjayson on Tue Jul 01, 2003 at 05:48:24 AM EST

    For anybody who watched the ESPN game/reality show "Beg, Borrow, and Deal," last year was the their first seaons and four people had tattoos put on them. I think three of them opted to get it on the bottom of their foot. One guy got a pic of the Clemson Tigers' paw and some girl got a picture of the NY Yankees logo. The paw was very colorful and if you keep your feet moisturized, shedding shouldn't be that big of a problem in the arch.
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    I thought dirty parlours were only in bad movies? (none / 0) (#53)
    by livus on Sun Jun 29, 2003 at 08:09:12 AM EST

    I mean, really. How many of you have honestly ever been into one where it did turn out to be dirty, unhygenic, dark, and full of slave girls...?

    Not to mention, I bet the proportion of tatooists who are drunk ex-sailors with shaky hands is, sadly, negligible compared to that of those who are snooty Artistes of the "like walking art galleries" persuasion.

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    I have one (none / 0) (#59)
    by Cackmobile on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 10:09:42 AM EST

    I got a tattoo done last year and don't regret it. I do have some advice. Definately ask around to find the good places. I have seen some sub standard tats around. You should definately take a bit of time deciding what you want. Maybe not the exact tat but the general feel of it. You should always get what you want not what is cool/trendy. I am sick of seeing people with barb wire arm bands and chinese/japanese characters. Yeah i like the characters but most people get them because they are cool. But I would never make a joke out of some ones choice.

    Very young kids with piercings - I don't get it (none / 0) (#63)
    by splitpeasoup on Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 03:13:06 PM EST

    Slightly off-topic, but every once in a while I see a very young boy - like six or eight years old - with a earring, or the like. I never get it - how much of this is the kid's own desire to have a earring, and how much is the parent's own vicarious vanity or desire for coolness? I mean, even if it's mostly the former, shouldn't adults forbid body piercings at such a young age?

    Girls with pierced ears is a little different, because almost every woman wears earrings later in life, and like circumcision it might actually be less traumatic if done at a very young age. I wouldn't have my own daughter's ears pierced (until she's in her teens, when it would be her own decision), but I can understand other people doing it, especially if it's very common in society.

    But boys? Even the peer pressure excuse doesn't apply.


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    Circumcision, I don't get it. (5.00 / 2) (#69)
    by jester69 on Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 11:23:20 AM EST

    It has been largely accepted in medical circles since the early 70's that circumcision does more harm than good, so why do we keep disfiguring our male children like that.

    We get all bent out of shape about female circumcision in africa, but keep on giving the nod to cutting off perfectly healthy parts of boys genitals.

    Honestly, I think it should be classed child abuse. Religious freedom is fine and all, but if a parent decided to have bits of their childrens ears or toes cut off for religious reasons, they'd be jailed. Why are the privates any different? Just because it has been done that way, should it still?

    Even if one made a religious exception, there is no reason for anyone else to ever mutilate a child like that.

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    I don't either (nt) (none / 0) (#70)
    by splitpeasoup on Wed Jul 02, 2003 at 04:21:44 PM EST

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