You really are a pretentious raving madman....but I must reply to some of this absurdity...then I'll stop wasting my time on you.
What I took issue with was the fact that the author of this story has portrayed only positive things about the guy, and none of the negative.
I acknowledged negative things...which you so conveniently overlook. The fact is, you want so desperately to turn him into a madman that you'll believe anything, and disregard anything that doesn't fit in with your preconceived notions.
I also stated several times that crowley is not equal to thelema. You want him so desperately to be, so you can lash out about them both with absurd allegations.
All I ever said about him was fact I learned from otherwise reasonably credible sources. My source for the semen-pills was Raising Hell: An Encyclopedia of Devil Worship and Satanic Crime, by Michael Newton.
And what do you base credibility on? The fact YOU are willing to believe it? Every place online it's mentioned by those not in the "ritual abuse...omg satanic killings everywhere!" arena it's been ridiculed.
Why don't you tell me why this particular fact isn't? I'm being very reasonable.. where's your source that points out where this supposed lie comes from?
That's not reasonable at all. I could write an article saying you slept with your mother...then charge you to show me your sources that say that's a lie. That's pretty idiotic.
You'll note that I DID credit the original Frenchman who was the coiner of the Satanist and Wiccan creeds.
No, the only thing Rebelais came up with was the use of Thelemites to describe these monks....and "Do what thou wilt". Crowley fleshed it out in the Book of the Law and later works...and he is who LaVey and Gardner copied.
As far as who LaVey got it from, it's obvious from his writings that was Crowley...regardless of his comment calling crowley a bore, which is so completely off topic to the subject it's pathetic.
Here we find Mr. Crowley again praising the importance of semen; that from it, all things Life flow. Why is it so hard for you and all the self-deluded self-styled Thelemites to believe that his drug-addled brain produced an "Elixir of Life", a Quintessence, the chief ingredient of which was his own semen?
Crowley's thoughts on the importance of semen did not originate with him. It was the basis of alchemy.. and you can find similar references to it in plenty of occult literature. Sex magick did not originate with Crowley.
As far as saying since he saw sperm as the transmission of the life force, that means he sold pills of his own semen after he went broke, that's so much of a jump in logic it's ridiculous.
(In my searching, I found the following.. Oh, this quote is just fucking fantastic;
Semina nunc molli dat mentula saeva cinaedo.
Aspectu gaudens ipse Priapus adest.
Gaudens exaudi; nobis sit mentula semper
Et Rigida et roseo semen ab ore jacens.
So here we have Aleister Crowley apparently condoning pederasty. There's your great hero for you, you pompous ass.
Man...you clearly are deluded. So, let's take that quote..and the translation we can find in thelemapedia:
Wow...not exactly a hidden thing, is it? Right there on a website about thelema.
Hmmmm it's a hymn to Priapus, eh? So, what do catamites have to do with Priapus?
Wow...latin prose to Priapus. Could Priapus by chance have a correspondence to catamites?
This staff of office cut from tree as 'tis,
No more with leafage green for aye to bloom;
Staff by the pathic damsels fondly loved,
Which e'en the kings delight in hand to hold
And oft by noble catamites bekissed--
This staff in robbers' vitals deep shall plunge
Up to its bushy base and bag of balls.
Oh wow! Catamites are mentioned in reference to Priapus! Imagine THAT!
Whenas the Rigid God espied a wight
Crisping his head with curling-tongs aglow
That he be likest to a Moorish maid,
'Ho thou! (cried he) we tell thee, catamite;
However much thou toast and curl thyself
Is then a damsel more of worth, I ask,
Than are the hairy honours of thy yard?'
OMG! There it is again!! Imagine! Priapus is associated with catamites!
Whatever thief who deceives my faith may he wither away, far from the buttocks of a catamite. And whatso girl who with audacious hand plucks off these apples, may she meet with no futterer.
Wow...catamites sure are mentioned a lot...I wonder if that had something to do with latin culture and the people worshipping Priapus...hmmmmm
Well, let's see what else it says in that text:
Paedico means to pedicate, to sodomise, to indulge in unnatural lewdness with a woman often in the sense of to abuse. In Epigrams 10, 16 and 31 jesting allusion is made to the injury done to the buttocks of the catamite by the introduction of the 'twelve-inch pole' of Priapus, and Ausonius speaks of the battered clazomenes (incusas clazomenas), or buttocks of a passive. By calling the clazomenes hammered (battered) Ausonius implies that they have become polished by having served as an anvil. Martial directs an epigram against Carinus, whose anus was split and lacerated by his excessive indulgence in these practices. Orpheus is supposed to have introduced the vice of sodomy upon the earth. In Ovid's Metamorphoses--
Ille etiam Thracum populis fuit auctor, amorem
In teneros transferre mares...
He also was the first adviser of the Thracian people
to transfer their love to tender youths ...
presumably in consequence of the death of Eurydice, his wife, and his unsuccessful attempt to bring her to earth again from the infernal regions. But he paid dearly for his contempt of women. The Thracian dames whilst celebrating their bacchanal rites tore him to pieces. François Noël, however, states that Laius, father of Oedipus, was the first to make this vice known on earth. In imitation of Jupiter with Ganymede, he used Chrysippus, the son of Pelops, as a catamite; an example which speedily found many followers. Amongst famous sodomists of antiquity may be mentioned: Jupiter with Ganymede; Phoebus with Hyacinthus; Hercules with Hylas; Orestes with Pylades; Achilles with Patrodes, and also with Bryseis; Theseus with Pirithous; Pisistratus with Charmus; Demosthenes with Cnosion; Gracchus with Cornelia; Pompeius with Julia; Brutus with Portia; the Bithynian king Nicomedes with Caesar, &c., &c. An account of famous sodomists in history is given in the privately printed volumes of 'Pisanus Fraxi', the Index Librorum Prohibitorum (1877), the Centuria Librorum Absconditorum (1879) and the Catena Librorum Tacendorum (1885), the lists there presented including such names as Alexander of Macedon, Napoleon Bonaparte, Henri III of France, Peter the Great, &c. For a most admirable article on sodomy, see The Book of the Thousand Nights and a Night and the works there cited. Those interested in the subject are referred to the Thesaurus Eroticus Linguae Latinae, under articles 'Aversa Venus' and 'Paedicare', and will find the following brochures worthy of reading: 'Un Point Curieux des Moeurs Privées de la Grèce' (an essay by M. Octave Delepierre on sodomy amongst the ancients), Gay, Paris, 1861, and Socrates sanctus Paiderastes, by Gesner (translated into French under the title of Socrate et l'amour Grec, by Alcide Bonneau), Liseux, Paris, 1877.
[1. Gallias Caesar subegit, Nicomedes Caesarem;
Ecce Caesar nunc triumphat, qui subegit Gallias.
Nicomedes non triumphat, qui subegit Caesarem.
The Gauls to Caesar yield, Caesar to Nicomede,
Lo! Caesar triumphs for his glorious deed,
But Caesar's conqueror gains no victor's meed.
Hmmmmmmm shocking! HAHAHHAHA
That doesn't change the fact that the guy caused more harm than good.
And what harm did that guy cause? Heh...
Yes, I'm talking to you as if you were a child. You have the intelligence of one....and the scholarship of one too, apparently.
But, I'm through wasting time with you....even though it's been a load of laughs.
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