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A Holiday Without Booze - Victoria Day

By moondancer in Culture
Fri May 19, 2006 at 12:00:00 PM EST
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Well, this is a long weekend in Canada. We celebrate the birthday of Queen Victoria.

Victoria Day has been celebrated in Canada since May 24 was declared a holiday in 1845.

This weekend is the first long weekend of the summer and it brings out campers and the party animals.

This one weekend of the year has turned into such a mess. Less and less of the third Monday of recent Mays can be defined as in any way amusing. Drunks and fights and fires and car crashes should only be entertainment on video games. But its not, it is now become a reality.


To help control some of the vandalism and major problems in our campsites and recreational areas in provincial parks, the government has declared these parks to be alcohol free for this weekend.

Less Vandalism?

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police are optimistic that an alcohol ban in provincial parks and recreation areas here in Saskatchewan will keep vandalism and disturbances to a minimum. The RCMP stated that it worked in "national parks so it should work here."

If a visitor inside a provincial park campground or recreational site is found to have alcohol, it will be confiscated. Depending on the circumstances, the individual may be charged with an offence under the liquor and gaming act, and faces a high likelihood of being evicted from the park.

The provincial government has issued an alcohol ban in provincial owned campgrounds after a handful of incidents in the recent past caused significant problems. Last year three RCMP officers were surrounded by drinking partiers who threw beer bottles and assaulted them. There was also damage to the campsites themselves with bbq's being smashed with vehicles, picnic tables used as firewood and tents wrecked on adjoining campsites. Interesting to note, this did not happen in a provincial park, but at a campground that is owned privately.

Cabin owners have been going to the lakes and parks since the nice weather has been around, getting ready for another summer of rest and relaxation at the lakes. They will not be part of the alcohol ban, only campers.

May Long

Young people increasingly refer to Victoria Day weekend as "May Long " short for: "After drinking 14 wine coolers and attempting to land ski down the campground road behind the Ford, you "may long" for a painkiller even stronger than the 24-hour morphine drip that is trickling into what is left of your spinal cord."

It makes no sense. April Fool's Day, seven weeks earlier, is more rational and it's the only time when people are allowed to pull jokes on others.

Yet there is no "April Fool," an actual person of historical note. Of the nine statutory holidays, this Monday is one of only three that commemorate a specific individual from history. In theory, we celebrate the reign of a queen who lived and died in another country during the 19th century.

A Needed Break From Winter

May long weekend could be Hagar the Horrible Day and it wouldn't matter. After a cold Canadian winter, people want - need - a break, one lousy extra day to inhale the freshness of renewal, to gaze upon nature's portrait as it is painted over the dull gray of yesterday.

At least that is what people say they need. What many people do this first long weekend of spring, particularly our young people, is inhale enough of the liquid refreshment to shut down all five senses. And then through  blurred double-vision is the Jackson Pollock on their lap that started out as a breakfast of cheezies, raw hotdogs and beer. This they call camping.

Real Camping

Real camping requires sobriety, one's full wits all the time on account of the windstorms and the bears. Read history and you will come across no mention of 24-packs and kegs among the provisions of Canada's pioneer campers, of Jacques Cartier, of Henry Kelsey or others. Hiking great distances and exploring the sites were what made them happy campers, not fortified beverage. Indeed, the most well known campers in Canadian history were the Northwest Mounted Police. Their camping trek started in 1874 with the intent of bringing order to the drunken lawless frontier. Had the force elected to imbibe on its camping trip, the entire march west would have collapsed in mass self-arrest, forever confusing historians.

Orders for this long weekend are simple. Enjoy spring. Be young, even if you are not but especially if your long range plan is to be older. Don't be stupid. Stay in control. Have fun and live.

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A Holiday Without Booze - Victoria Day | 121 comments (109 topical, 12 editorial, 0 hidden)
This is un-American (1.75 / 8) (#1)
by United Fools on Fri May 19, 2006 at 06:51:19 PM EST

No one celebrates any queen's birthday here.
Not even the Borg Queen or the queen of a hive of bees.

We are united, we are fools, and we are America!
awww that is so un-canadian.. (none / 1) (#2)
by moondancer on Fri May 19, 2006 at 07:06:15 PM EST

we dont celebrate columbus day here either..sooooo...guess we are even..lol..
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Actually (none / 1) (#62)
by DrToast on Sun May 21, 2006 at 10:15:55 AM EST

I think we do. We just call it thanksgiving.

[ Parent ]
no, different dates (none / 1) (#67)
by agavero on Sun May 21, 2006 at 11:59:45 AM EST

Columbus day in 2006 is Oct 9 (same as Canada thanksgiving day this year)
American Thanksgiving is on Nov 23 in 2006..so they are different holidays..
"Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of nonknowledge." Isaac Bashevis Singer
[ Parent ]
Yeah (none / 0) (#97)
by DrToast on Mon May 22, 2006 at 09:33:09 PM EST

The OP was saying we don't celebrate Columbus day, I was just pointing out that we do have a holiday on the exact same day. So, we do celebrate Columbus day, we just don't call it that.

[ Parent ]
oh dear canadians (1.16 / 36) (#3)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 08:49:02 PM EST

your neighbor to the south fought and won their independence... over 200 years ago

you weren't weaned from the queen's tit until 1982

1982! and even then, forcibly so. you politely waited for the british to sever all remaining control over you. wow, so much to be proud of. i can see the wellsprings of your national pride in that

a "country" founded on quicksand lives on quicksand. how long until the frogs in quebec attempt to leave you again? what has changed that would make them not try again? you'd have to have some sort of overriding sense of national identity to counteract that impulse, no?

i don't see any overriding sense of identity that would compel the frogs, do you?

and then what? alberta joins the usa? the maritimes?

canada is the constitutional equivalent of the man who lives in his mother's basement until his mid 40s, and even then, has to be kicked out forcibly kicking and screaming, holding onto dear life to his momma's skirt, a manchild. and as such, there really is nothing to his character or identity. it is all sublimated

so you have a day celebrating some rich useless bitch in a country across an ocean... this is joyful for you canadians? don't you have anything to celebrate, gee, i dunno, on this side of the atlantic? i know, wacky concept, eh?

truly, canada fills me with wonder. wonder at how canadians are proud of anything canadian

canada, the cuckold country. enjoy your queen bitch day, mamas boys

canada is such a fucking joke of country. canada really is nothing more than unincorporated us territory. there is nothing remotely culturally significant about canada, there are more culturally unique signifiers between southeastern americans and other americans than there are between americans and canadians

there is nothing of national significance to canada... just ask any notable citzens of yours: they all flee southward as soon as they get a chance, even your beloved hockey stars

hockey and molson do not make a culturally significant country, eh?

what a fucking joke of a country. how you canadians are proud of anything "canadian", whatever that is supposed to mean, is utterly beyond me. fucking pathetic

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

well, you are the ignorant ass .. you know nothing (2.00 / 3) (#4)
by moondancer on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:04:08 PM EST

beyond your walls of your "head in the sand" world..
I know more about your country than you would ever guess about mine..and I am not from Canada..you would be surprised as to where I do come from..but..Canada is my home, and I am a proud Canadian as well as you being a proud American..just that you are more ignorant is all..I feel very sorry for you..its people like you that give your fellow countrymen a bad rep..but oh well, that is your choice..
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
90% canadians live with 100 mi of us border (1.15 / 19) (#6)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:16:44 PM EST

canada: the usa's toupee

as for you being a proud canadian: how does one find pride in an identity which isn't even formed?

do you want proof of this assertion of mine?

gee, i dunno, i cast around for a suitable example...

ooh, here's one:

YOU'RE FUCKING STORY

what is your story about?

here we have some assholes in an icebox in north america, CELEBRATING SOME BITCH IN ANOTHER COUNTRY ACROSS AN OCEAN

ok then! i see now! i see the source of your pride now! i see the grand canadian identity that there is so much to take pride in!

SOME OTHER COUNTRY'S PRIDE

(snicker)

canada is such a fucking joke

i can't wait til the frogs leave you assholes (as if that's not going to happen- remember: national unity requires national pride and cohesion... and YOUR STORY demonstrates how woefully little of that there is that you have to PARASITICALLY ATTACH yourslef to ANOTHER country's identity across an OCEAN... yes, i can see the joy the frogs have in some fucking old rich british bitch, ha!)

anglophone canada will surely weep: rippe din two by the frogs

then it's alberta to usa for the win

and then maybe the maritimes

british columbia will make a decent country... completely surrounded by the usa (snicker)

and ontario has global warming to look forward to, so that it snot a land locked vestige

vestige of oh great, great canada

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

what a fucking pathetic joke

canada=unincorporated us territory

not a single fucking thing more

at least you have

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Why would Alberta join the US? (3.00 / 4) (#8)
by CanSpice on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:28:08 PM EST

You keep saying that Alberta would join the US. I think you need to learn that very few Canadians would want to join the US, and Albertans are no different.

Also, why would Quebec leaving rip Canada apart? Why would it be the case that if two parts of Canada can't be got to without driving through another country, the whole country would fall apart?

And what's so wrong about celebrating our first Queen? It doesn't matter where the monarch lives, they're still our chief of state. You guys celebrate your first chief of state (even though Washington's birthday has been folded into Presidents' Day), so why can't we celebrate ours?

Sure, the Queen is Britian's Queen, but she's also our Queen. Queen Victoria was Canada's Queen as well, and as such she's a part of our history, and I don't see the problem in celebrating that fact.

[ Parent ]

dude, you don't fucking get it (1.00 / 17) (#10)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:33:45 PM EST

you can't base national pride on ANOTHER COUNTRY'S PRIDE

remember? the atlantic ocean?

are you a proud BRITISH citizen?

jesus fucking christ!

now, follow the fucking bouncing ball: if you don't have enough national identity that you have to fucking parasitically attach yourself to ANOTHER FUCKING COUNTRY'S BITCH, how the FUCK can you find anything to be proud of?

i mean proud of as CANADIAN

not proud of as BRITISH

get it?

and, for the final coupe de grace: without a cogent national identy, and therefore without anything to be proud of, the inevitable is before you: dissolution

the frogs in quebec have nothing to attahc to you fucking anglophones BECAUSE THERE IS NO CANADIAN INDENTITY

what, you're going to foist some old bitch from london on the frogs? they love that for sense of pride, huh?

and if you think losing quebec is a big yawn, no effect on canada at all, what the fuck can i say!?

"oh honey, i read in the paper this morning we lost 1/5th of the country, and now the country is in two pieces. ho hum, pass the sugar please"

OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SEE WHY YOU'RE SO NONPLUSSED!!!!!!!!!

;-P

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

wow..you have one terrible temper and (none / 0) (#12)
by moondancer on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:38:03 PM EST

lots of hate!! i think you really do need some help..i am so glad the americans i know are decent people and not the ignorant ass that you are..as i said before, you know nothing and i am now thinking you should be pitied for being so ignorant..
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
i don't have any hate (1.00 / 15) (#14)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:43:52 PM EST

how could i hate something that doesn't exist?

;-)


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

yes, you are so right..i tend to ignore (1.50 / 2) (#18)
by moondancer on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:56:55 PM EST

ignorant idiots like you..you have no idea of the history of your country or mine..you just spew off insults and bs..you know nothing..maybe you should go to school and take history and learn something of this wonderful world..:o)
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
You fail to comprehend. (3.00 / 2) (#13)
by CanSpice on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:40:46 PM EST

Read this comment slowly so it sinks in:

Queen Victoria was Canada's queen, in addition to being Britain's queen. We were British first, and then became Canadian, but in the switchover we didn't lose our queen.

It is possible for one person to rule over more than one country, you realize.

Yes, Quebec seceding would have an effect on Canada, but why would this effect be Alberta (and, as you say, the Maritimes, which I assume you also mean to include Newfoundland in there even though it's not a Maritime province) join up with the US? Why wouldn't the rest of Canada stay Canada?

Also, why should California care about George Washington? He wasn't even President over any territory anywhere near California.

Please try to answer these questions rationally instead of spasming on your keyboard with your same old tired sentences.

[ Parent ]

it's about IDENTITY (1.11 / 9) (#15)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:47:57 PM EST

close your eyes

imagine what it means to be japanese

ok, now russian

ok, now indian

now... what does it mean to be canadian?

your answer, apparently, has something, to do with being... british?

and if you asked someone in italy, or brazil,or germany, what it was like to be canadian they would say something like "american... with hockey" or "american... colder"

you have no distinct cultural identity

what does that mean to you in terms of national coherence, pride, meaning?

ps: i'm already really exicted to hear your reply about how your pride in canadian identity stems from some old bitch in

ANOTHER

FUCKING

COUNTRY

(smacks forehead)

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

You continue to fail to understand. (none / 1) (#19)
by CanSpice on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:59:25 PM EST

You don't get it. It doesn't matter where the Queen lives. She's still Canada's Queen. The fact that she's also Britain's queen (and Australia's, and the queen of a number of other countries around the word) doesn't mean anything.

As for heritage, yes, a large part of our heritage is British. A large part of our heritage is also French. And a large part of our heritage is American. However, we've only had one head of state at a time, and at the time that Canada became a country our head of state was Queen Victoria, so we celebrate her by having a holiday.

When are you going to answer my questions instead of bleating on about heritage and our queen? I don't think you're even reading these, or if you are, they're not sinking in, because you're showing no signs of comprehension. All you do is go on about how Queen Victoria lived in Britain.

Your president is the president of the United States of America when he doesn't even live in one. Your government isn't based in one of those states either. Why do you continue to be ruled by these people who don't even do business in one of your hallowed states?

That's the kind of argument you're making right now. It's getting tiresome.

[ Parent ]

He's just jealous (3.00 / 3) (#40)
by livus on Sat May 20, 2006 at 06:58:07 PM EST

Usians are often jealous that the rest of us have The Queen and they don't.

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[ Parent ]
Ok (none / 0) (#63)
by DrToast on Sun May 21, 2006 at 10:41:10 AM EST

The Japanese speak Japanese, the Russians speak Russian. Americans speak English. OMG America is such a joke of a country they don't even have their own language LOLOLOL!!! Oh, wait you spell colour without the "u". That's something you can be proud of, I guess.

And the clothes you wear are just like the people in Britain wear. And the food you eat, and the music you listen to. And look at your television, fill with knockoffs of crappy british game shows.

And the guys who run your states are called Governors just like when you were under the British Empire. And you lost the War of 1812. But the British felt sorry for you and let you keep your silly little government with your joke of a constitution (which even your own people have always ignored anyway).

And your biggest trading partners are members of the British commonwealth.

Your like the trust fund baby that acts all rebellious, but not so rebellious the she stops using daddy's credit cards. Daddy realises that this is "just a phase" and obliges you.

Please name anything significant the US has done without the guidance of Britain. Is there any music or art or politcal movement, or international conflict that the US was successful in where the US wasn't just supporting Britain. Oh wait, there isn't, the US is a joke of a country.

US, the Paris Hilton of the world. Likes to see her name in the tabloids, but would be a nobody if it wasn't for daddy.

[ Parent ]

I'm usually say (none / 0) (#95)
by bradasch on Mon May 22, 2006 at 07:03:02 PM EST

that Canada is like the US, but without americans.

And for those with their heads deep in the sand, that is a *very good thing* (TM).

[ Parent ]

Heads of State (3.00 / 4) (#26)
by werebear on Sat May 20, 2006 at 04:49:08 AM EST

Hey CTS - given who you have as your nations current head of state do you really think you are in a solid position to criticise Queen Liz ?

People in glass houses etc.

(Hey, at least ours can pronounce 'nuclear'.)

[ Parent ]

Do you hate your parents? $ (none / 0) (#57)
by mr strange on Sun May 21, 2006 at 06:12:59 AM EST



intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
ripping canada apart (3.00 / 2) (#88)
by aphrael on Mon May 22, 2006 at 02:23:39 AM EST

Very few states have, in modern times, attempted to exist while significantly geographically dispersed. The three most prominent are:

(a) Pakistan, which prior to 1973 was divided into two regions seperated by India; the politics of the country was entirely dominated by one of the regions, and in the end it revolted in a nasty civil war which caused a huge refugee crisis.

(b) Germany, which between 1918 and 1939 was divided into two regions seperated by Poland; in the end, Germany invaded Poland and annexed the seperating region.

(c) Russia, which since 1991 has been divided into one enormous region and one tiny region, seperated by Lithuania. The satellite region is something of an oddity, is a thorn in the side of Russia-EU relations, and is almost completely economically dysfunctional.

These may not be dispositive; but I suspect that Quebecois secession would lead more or less inevitably to a weakening of ties between Canada and the Maritime Provinces, who would eventually follow Quebec out of the union.


[ Parent ]

Hawaii (none / 0) (#93)
by sholden on Mon May 22, 2006 at 02:21:39 PM EST

Hawaii doesn't seem connected to any of the other States in the USA to me, it's not even on the same continent.

--
The world's dullest web page


[ Parent ]
fair point (none / 0) (#94)
by aphrael on Mon May 22, 2006 at 02:24:27 PM EST

but neither is it seperated by a large expanse of land belonging to another country.

that provides significant added problems: what happens to canadian unity if quebec declines to allow it flyover rights?


[ Parent ]

they could fly over the USian northeast? (none / 0) (#122)
by isms and schisms on Fri May 26, 2006 at 11:49:27 PM EST



[ Parent ]
Also... (3.00 / 2) (#16)
by CanSpice on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:49:27 PM EST

You need to brush up on your geography. If Alberta were to join the US, British Columbia would not be surrounded by the US. Ontario is not land-locked; perhaps you've heard of Hudson's Bay?

If you're going to be an arrogant blowhard, at least base it in reality instead of what fantasy world you have living inside your head.

[ Parent ]

Make that "Hudson Bay" $ (none / 0) (#17)
by CanSpice on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:49:52 PM EST



[ Parent ]
do you think (none / 1) (#48)
by anonymous-66714 on Sat May 20, 2006 at 08:24:56 PM EST

christmas is the celebration of some american guy?

[ Parent ]
The biggest problem with (1.25 / 8) (#5)
by chilambalam on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:15:56 PM EST

canada are the fucking frogs in Quebec. Jeezus, what a bunch of ghey losers.

I imagine that they don't even speak real french judging how fucked up the french are.



[ Parent ]

the french make fun of quebecers (1.11 / 9) (#7)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:19:58 PM EST

they really do

here these assholes are busting their left nut preserving french culture in the frozen wasteland of canada, and what thanks do they get?

the french think their little more than semi-literate hillbillies

hilarious

not that i like the qubecoise, but boy do i root for them

the day they lose their anglophone neighbors is the day i will celebrate

all thsoe fucking anglophones, how their hearts will break!

and ps: welcome alberta

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Yeah sorta like our... (none / 1) (#9)
by chilambalam on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:28:13 PM EST

"cajuns". CUT THE CHEESE! even that smells like toe jam.



[ Parent ]
i roomed with a frog in college (1.14 / 7) (#11)
by circletimessquare on Fri May 19, 2006 at 09:37:29 PM EST

and they had some sort of french newsmagazine on tv one night, and it had some fancy french news expose news crew running around the bayous with searchlights and helicopters or what not, and they came up to this old toothless fool in a shack, and the highly coifed french newsman was like

"oh great sir, how does it feel to bravely preserve french culture in this american wasteland, oh brave sir, we french salute fo rholding out agains the onslaught for so long!"

and then the old toothless hick was like

"hiiiya weer a mmmbeee aooo oop aa oop a dooortaa fffeee aaa luuuiwww beeera..."

basically it wasn't english, it wasn't french, it wasn't antyhing but utter gibberish no one could understand

it was hilarious... said the frog roommate, i never saw this ;-P


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

cts (2.25 / 4) (#49)
by Booji Boy on Sat May 20, 2006 at 08:45:10 PM EST

These rants are as predictable as Jack Wagner.

[ Parent ]
sorry (3.00 / 3) (#55)
by circletimessquare on Sun May 21, 2006 at 05:32:17 AM EST

i didn't think anyone actually read me that closely

perhaps you should start up my fanclub or something?


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

As usual, I'm with this guy (2.66 / 9) (#27)
by daani on Sat May 20, 2006 at 05:39:47 AM EST


The correct approach to maintaining a working nation is to construct a ludicrously childlike origin myth. Something about poor oppressed peasants throwing off a nasty foreign tyrant should do nicely, eh? Best to ignore the fact that the real quarrel was about slave-owning colonists being asked to pay token taxes after decades of being subsidised by the empire. And for God's sake don't mention the economic depression they cunningly plunged themselves into as a result.

Then, a few hundred years on you can act like it somehow makes you personally a member of the master race. And obliges everyone else to ignore the fact that for all their achievements, wealth and power, American's are yet to learn is how to conduct themselves as gentleman.


[ Parent ]

well, Canada also has achievments, wealth and (none / 1) (#35)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 12:33:09 PM EST

power also..a lot of the things you use to make your life more comfortable, was discovered by canadians..maybe you should check out our history a bit more..we dont tend to brag about things that go well for us..:o)
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Like fuckin what? (none / 1) (#36)
by daani on Sat May 20, 2006 at 01:08:10 PM EST


I've racked my brains and the only Canadian invention I can think of is Degrassi Junior High. And you've probably stopped making that, eh?

You should all just concentrate on growing buds. You're good at it and it might help finally get your economy out of it's perennial recession. Also, you can use the bullshit you posted above as fertilizer.

[ Parent ]

well, this link will tell you (none / 0) (#37)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 01:49:21 PM EST

what contributions Canadians have made... Canada things
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Yeah, but (none / 1) (#38)
by daani on Sat May 20, 2006 at 03:25:21 PM EST

that page lists among the top 50 Canadian inventions of all time "portable high chair" and "Stanley Cup" (wtf?).

Also this page seems to be written by a Canadian nationalist suffering from similar delusions to your good self. For instance, he has the audacity to claim that one of his own countrymen - and not Edison - invented the lightbulb! For christ sakes, next time you see this fellow up there could you tell him to make his website just a little more believable?

[ Parent ]

damn, sorry to find your delusuions of (none / 0) (#39)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 03:37:39 PM EST

grandeur are increasing..you ought to really get some help!!
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Actually, Edison didn't invent the lightbulb (3.00 / 4) (#41)
by The Real ChefSalad on Sat May 20, 2006 at 07:07:55 PM EST

He bought the Canadian rights to it from the actal inventor, made an improved working model and got the first US patent. Because he was the first to file for the US patent he is often incorrectly credited with it's invention. However, as originally made by the Canadians, the lightbulb was a big piece of shit. It didn't have a good enough vacuum seal to keep it burning long enough to be commercially viable and it couldn't be manufactured cheaply enough.

Edison solved those problems in about four years using his own experience from trying over ten thousand filaments during his attempts at inventing the lightbulb and about $50,000 of his own money. See what money gets you?

Please don't anonymise me again, rusty. I'm having a hard time remembering what my current user name is.
[ Parent ]

your right!! lol (none / 0) (#42)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 07:09:17 PM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
(3) +1FP (2.50 / 2) (#44)
by LilDebbie on Sat May 20, 2006 at 07:41:15 PM EST

I was going to vote it down but day-um.

My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
- hugin -

[ Parent ]
thanks so much :o) (none / 0) (#46)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 07:54:25 PM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Don't thank me (2.00 / 2) (#68)
by LilDebbie on Sun May 21, 2006 at 12:56:28 PM EST

Thank cts.

My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
- hugin -

[ Parent ]
As opposed to the US... (3.00 / 4) (#47)
by gordonjcp on Sat May 20, 2006 at 08:03:43 PM EST

... who remain utterly dependant on the UK to fight their battles for them.

Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll bore you rigid with fishing stories for the rest of your life.


[ Parent ]
Sums up all USians' arrogance and ignorance... (2.66 / 3) (#56)
by mr strange on Sun May 21, 2006 at 06:08:43 AM EST

...in a single handy package.

C'mon cts, I expect better of you. You're a head-in-the-clouds dreamer. A utopian. Where's this hate-filled willful ignorance come from?

Why can't Canadians set their government up whichever way they please? Why can't they celebrate whatever makes them happy? They are a democracy after all, they chould change it if they pleased.

I'm not a Canadian so I don't know, but I suspect that the Victoria Day holiday is more a celebration of shared history, of having come from somewhere, than an actual celebration of a long-dead monarch. Or maybe they just keep that holiday because it infurates you USians so much - are you being trolled?

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]

Just keep in mind... (2.75 / 4) (#72)
by Krakhan on Sun May 21, 2006 at 02:48:38 PM EST

That if you look at cts' posting history, anything related to Canada that comes up he automatically flames with the same old kind of post everytime, without fail.  It's rather amusing, but in the end, he's just yet another troll on K5, foaming at the mouth and all.

So, that's why I'm not too surprised at all.
~ Krakhan
[ Parent ]

yes, thats for sure. altho its (3.00 / 2) (#73)
by agavero on Sun May 21, 2006 at 03:13:22 PM EST

okay to have some crap like that to make things interesting, but it goes on and on and it seems there is more and more of it lately.
"Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of nonknowledge." Isaac Bashevis Singer
[ Parent ]
cts is usually fairly consistent. (3.00 / 3) (#84)
by mr strange on Sun May 21, 2006 at 06:37:38 PM EST

Today he seems to have taken a different tack, and I'm calling him on it.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
True, but I'd pick Toronto and Montreal (2.75 / 4) (#65)
by nlscb on Sun May 21, 2006 at 11:24:50 AM EST

over Buffalo or Detroit anyday.

Comment Search has returned - Like a beaten wife, I am pathetically grateful. - mr strange
[ Parent ]

Oh for sure, so would I!! (none / 0) (#66)
by agavero on Sun May 21, 2006 at 11:55:15 AM EST


"Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of nonknowledge." Isaac Bashevis Singer
[ Parent ]
+1FP (2.66 / 3) (#70)
by localroger on Sun May 21, 2006 at 02:14:55 PM EST

Not that I have anything against Canada -- I'll be depositing some of my hard-earned tourist dollars there next month in fact -- but this is absolutely the best USian Canada rant ever. If Canada rants were scotch, this would be Johnny Walker Blue Label (and that exists, look it up).

I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds -- J. Robert Oppenheimer
[ Parent ]
Why do you care? (3.00 / 2) (#90)
by pwhysall on Mon May 22, 2006 at 06:59:20 AM EST

I thought you were above all that nationalist stuff.

Or is it just another excuse to froth and rave in public?
--
Peter
K5 Editors
I'm going to wager that the story keeps getting dumped because it is a steaming pile of badly formatted fool-meme.
CheeseBurgerBrown
[ Parent ]

such righteous froth (3.00 / 2) (#91)
by mantissa on Mon May 22, 2006 at 12:43:38 PM EST

Yes, but we're better than you anyway.

We didn't have our society tear itself apart over the idea that you can't own human beings - the ideological rift between "north" and "south" that still exists in your country today - the British parliament simply declared it illegal and every Commonwealth colony happily accepted it. For almost fifty years the British navy fought American slave ships on the oceans as they plied their trade.

We have always respected the rule of law, which is why we didn't turn into filthy insurgents in civilian clothes hiding behind rocks shooting at people. If you'd followed the rule of law back in the 1700's and paid your damn taxes, you might have become civilized, polite people such as ourselves.


[ Parent ]

a successful troll is based on many criteria (none / 0) (#96)
by circletimessquare on Mon May 22, 2006 at 07:03:54 PM EST

"If you'd followed the rule of law back in the 1700's and paid your damn taxes, you might have become civilized, polite people such as ourselves"

one of the most rewarding criteria of a good troll is to have a respondent paint themselves in the most unflattering light possible, according to a number dimensions of arrogance and stupidity, and in the most blindingly un-self-aware way

so thank you, for hitting new heights on my troll-o-meter, for "If you'd followed the rule of law back in the 1700's and paid your damn taxes, you might have become civilized, polite people such as ourselves" is hilarious and arrogant and stupid on a number of dimensions

oh how i love to troll canadians, they have such a huge inferiority complex


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

So you're Canadian (none / 0) (#105)
by spasticfraggle on Wed May 24, 2006 at 06:16:31 AM EST

God, it all makes sense now!

--
I'm the straw that broke the camel's back!
[ Parent ]
Doubly so! (1.00 / 3) (#107)
by Comrade Wonderful on Wed May 24, 2006 at 09:52:05 AM EST

Where are you from again?  That city whose inhabitants have the greatest fear of being inferior of any place in the world?  That one?

I really want to see a pic of you sometime.

[ Parent ]

you want to see my picture? (none / 0) (#108)
by circletimessquare on Wed May 24, 2006 at 09:56:16 AM EST

i didn't know this was a dating website

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
It's not a dating website. (none / 1) (#109)
by Comrade Wonderful on Wed May 24, 2006 at 10:02:53 AM EST

But I want to see your picture.

[ Parent ]
do you want to suck my dick? (none / 0) (#110)
by circletimessquare on Wed May 24, 2006 at 10:31:58 AM EST

where is this going?


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
I just want to see, to satisfy my curiousity. (none / 0) (#111)
by Comrade Wonderful on Wed May 24, 2006 at 10:34:49 AM EST



[ Parent ]
what fucking curiousity? (none / 1) (#112)
by circletimessquare on Wed May 24, 2006 at 10:39:34 AM EST

i'm curious to look down blouses and up skirts

but hey, if your sexual fetish is random asshole trolls on the internet, so be it, who am i to judge

but i'm sorry honey, not tonight, i have a headache


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

I want to see what you look like so (none / 1) (#113)
by Comrade Wonderful on Wed May 24, 2006 at 10:49:48 AM EST

I can better understand what gave you the demeanor you have.

[ Parent ]
are you a phrenologist? (none / 0) (#114)
by circletimessquare on Wed May 24, 2006 at 11:10:08 AM EST

what does what i look like have to do with anything?

"ah his lupine face, i see the source of the avarice now"

!?

what kind of malformed racist are you?


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Dorks can be of any race. nt. (none / 0) (#115)
by Comrade Wonderful on Wed May 24, 2006 at 11:34:28 AM EST



[ Parent ]
so can racists (none / 0) (#117)
by circletimessquare on Wed May 24, 2006 at 05:11:45 PM EST

to know what i look like is a pretty strange obsession of yours, don't you think?

i'd really like to hear you rationalize that need

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

I know. nt (none / 0) (#120)
by Comrade Wonderful on Thu May 25, 2006 at 09:30:06 AM EST



[ Parent ]
didn't the french fight it for you? (none / 0) (#101)
by lolwhatboy on Tue May 23, 2006 at 05:25:11 PM EST

i thought you guys just sat around and waited for the french to come rescue you.


[ Parent ]
+1, "the Mounties!" (2.33 / 3) (#20)
by nostalgiphile on Fri May 19, 2006 at 11:02:51 PM EST

Canadians are so cute. You gotta love them, really. Nice, friendly ppl with "Royal" cops on horses and a generally pleasant attitude toward life. and a good sense of humor. Why can't Americans be like this? Really? (I mean the part with the funny looking cops and good humor).

Disclaimer: I hereby apologize to moondancer if this in any way offends her sensitive sensibilities and/or sparks her ire.

"Depending on your perspective you are an optimist or a pessimist[,] and a hopeless one too." --trhurler
certainly no offence taken.. (none / 1) (#23)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 12:17:49 AM EST

thanks for your comments..:o)
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
so can I stay at your house if i come to Canada? (none / 1) (#28)
by nostalgiphile on Sat May 20, 2006 at 06:20:26 AM EST

J/k, but I thought it'd be better to ask first instead of just showing up on the doorstep...

"Depending on your perspective you are an optimist or a pessimist[,] and a hopeless one too." --trhurler
[ Parent ]
yeah right...lol..:o) (none / 0) (#32)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 10:12:33 AM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Listen up, pilgrim (2.85 / 7) (#21)
by a brief respite on Fri May 19, 2006 at 11:16:11 PM EST

A holiday without booze is like a holiday without sunshine!

"[in London] the wrong babes were hidden in black hijabs and long robes on the streets and in the parks."

hehehe for sure!! (none / 0) (#22)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 12:15:24 AM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
I think one can make up for the other... (none / 0) (#58)
by mr strange on Sun May 21, 2006 at 06:18:26 AM EST

...That's why everyone is so drunken in the UK.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
it's the only reason anyone there gets laid. (none / 0) (#59)
by a brief respite on Sun May 21, 2006 at 08:34:46 AM EST


"[in London] the wrong babes were hidden in black hijabs and long robes on the streets and in the parks."
[ Parent ]

That and the fact that we have the most beautiful (none / 0) (#85)
by mr strange on Sun May 21, 2006 at 06:38:38 PM EST

...women in the world.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha omg ror (none / 0) (#121)
by a brief respite on Thu May 25, 2006 at 03:24:38 PM EST

fat, pasty potatoes with appendages.

"[in London] the wrong babes were hidden in black hijabs and long robes on the streets and in the parks."
[ Parent ]

Loved this... (2.33 / 3) (#24)
by terryfunk on Sat May 20, 2006 at 01:01:43 AM EST

will definitely vote it up when it hits the queue.

I like you, I'll kill you last. - Killer Clown
The ScuttledMonkey: A Story Collection

thanks so much for reading it..:o)) (none / 0) (#25)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 01:09:34 AM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Send her Victoria's (2.83 / 6) (#43)
by IHCOYC on Sat May 20, 2006 at 07:22:32 PM EST

I grew up in Canada during the early 1960s. My kindergarten year was the last year that God Save the Queen was the national anthem, and the Union Jack figured on the national flag.

My kindergarten teacher explained to me that the Queen's birthday was celebrated in May even though her actual birthday was on some other date. This was done, she said, in memory of Queen Victoria. I figured out all by myself that this was the reason why God Save the Queen urged us to "Send her Victorias". I gathered that Victorias were some kind of tribute gift that the Queen expected on her not really birthday.
--
"Complecti antecessores tuos in spelæis stygiis Tartari appara," eructavit miles primus.
"Vix dum basiavisti vicarium velocem Mortis," rediit G

yes i remember those years also..when all (none / 0) (#45)
by moondancer on Sat May 20, 2006 at 07:52:32 PM EST

the changes took place..i was out of school then tho..lol
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
The Queen's birthday is celebrated in the summer. (none / 1) (#61)
by OlympicSmoker on Sun May 21, 2006 at 10:13:05 AM EST

Her actual birthday is in April. This is done so she can have a pleasant party in the summer, in either May or June. King Edward VII was the first monarch to officially celebrate two birthdays, because his actual birthday was in November.

The queen tends to celebrate her actual birthday privately with family, but this year for her 80th she decided to celebrate it more publicly.

Now you know...

[ Parent ]

thanks for the info..but..I already (none / 0) (#64)
by moondancer on Sun May 21, 2006 at 10:52:04 AM EST

knew this..as I was born in England and grew up in Canada. History was very important in our family and also in our schools, so the learning of history of England and other countrys of our world had been ongoing both in school and at home.
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
+1 FP, (2.00 / 2) (#52)
by guyjin on Sat May 20, 2006 at 11:54:54 PM EST

Holiday on my birthday.
-- 散弾銃でおうがいして ください
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! (none / 0) (#53)
by moondancer on Sun May 21, 2006 at 12:11:15 AM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Big Rock Grasshoper, Poutine, and Tor Hotdogs (2.00 / 2) (#69)
by nlscb on Sun May 21, 2006 at 01:53:57 PM EST

Watching the Blue Jays and drinking on West Queens.

Good times. Good times.

Comment Search has returned - Like a beaten wife, I am pathetically grateful. - mr strange

:o)) (none / 0) (#71)
by agavero on Sun May 21, 2006 at 02:26:31 PM EST


"Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of nonknowledge." Isaac Bashevis Singer
[ Parent ]
It's Queen West, but that's a noted effort (none / 1) (#81)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Sun May 21, 2006 at 04:58:45 PM EST

Plus, Queen West if for teh homos.

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

is that in toronto? (none / 0) (#83)
by moondancer on Sun May 21, 2006 at 05:08:31 PM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
Every guy's a homo in Toronto (none / 0) (#86)
by nlscb on Sun May 21, 2006 at 09:15:51 PM EST

If there is a straight part I have yet to find it. At least everyone under 6'2". Not enough chicks to go around.

Not that's there's anything wrong with that. It can get very lonely in the great white north.

Don't get me wrong. I love Canada - great food, safe, clean, polite, incredible cultural diversity. It would be paradise if it wasn't for the weather and the women.

Comment Search has returned - Like a beaten wife, I am pathetically grateful. - mr strange
[ Parent ]

the weather i agree with..but.. (none / 0) (#87)
by agavero on Sun May 21, 2006 at 10:36:10 PM EST

the women?? dunno about that..and the homo aspect?? dont know about that either..as i have only been there once..lol
"Our knowledge is a little island in a great ocean of nonknowledge." Isaac Bashevis Singer
[ Parent ]
Well, it sounds like you hung out (none / 0) (#99)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Tue May 23, 2006 at 08:52:40 AM EST

where all the homos was. Like if you went to a zoo and said it sucked cause you went to the reptile cage and then left and then told everyone that that zoo sucks cause they only have reptiles.

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

can you blame him (none / 0) (#103)
by nullo or dupe on Tue May 23, 2006 at 09:39:33 PM EST

In strange foreign countries many people(especially americans) get scared and like to stick with the the kinds of people they are familiar with.
--
bunta
[ Parent ]
Bay & College, the Annex, Shephard, Y&Egl. (none / 1) (#104)
by nlscb on Wed May 24, 2006 at 12:00:15 AM EST

York, North York, Etobichoe[sic], Missasauga, Ottowa, Kingston, St. Catherines, Westmount, Quebec City, Gastown? All gay?

I admit that I'm exagerating - just a tad ;)

I just think that Canadian men get seriously short changed in the ladies department.

They're all tall, good looking in that multiracial way chicks dig (nordic height, slavic shoulders, italian features, irish eyes - and comming soon asian lines and african musculature - I've seen the prototypes - impressive), healthy, good teeth (minus quebec), well educated, wordly, polite, tolerant (too a fault - they put w/canadian chicks), AND THEY SPEAK FRENCH

I mean, common ladies, what else do you want?

Here's my best friend Mary's (Borden CAFB representing) response - wait here it comes - BUT THEY'RE SO BORING

Jesus fucking christ. Most "interesting" men usually end up beating their sig o's senseless. Most of the world's women are begging for boring.

My friend Andrew from the Sault couldn't believe how much easier meeting (and banging) women became after he moved from Toronto to DC. The women are consistently hotter at the suburban DC Hooters than the Queen West/West Queen one - and Toronto has more East European immigrants per capita.

I loved my time in Canada otherwise. But the garbage I put up with from the ladies was just ridiculous.

I ran into too many instances in Ontario being hit on men who seemed more lonely than gay. I don't really have a problem with that as long as they acknowledge that I am not interested - and since Canadians are so polite it was never a problem. In DC, I just get hit on by men I know are gay - they aren't so polite.

Comment Search has returned - Like a beaten wife, I am pathetically grateful. - mr strange
[ Parent ]

Canadian women are tougher, that's true (none / 0) (#106)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Wed May 24, 2006 at 07:31:46 AM EST

And a guy from the Sault should be knee-deep, cause those cats spend their entire time talking up people in general. My entire family is from there, and I have some of the ugliest cousins you ever met. Yet, they get there lovin steady because they talk up everyone that moves.

But, I know what you mean about cold Canadian women. That's true.

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

They're just spoiled (none / 0) (#118)
by nlscb on Wed May 24, 2006 at 07:11:26 PM EST

If you had nothing but Playmates to choose from, you'd be "cold" too.

Comment Search has returned - Like a beaten wife, I am pathetically grateful. - mr strange
[ Parent ]

I've wished a happy victoria's day to a co-worker. (2.75 / 4) (#74)
by lukme on Sun May 21, 2006 at 03:40:56 PM EST

He got very grumpy, and grumbled that he wasn't canadian.




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It's awfully hard to fly with eagles when you're a turkey.
awwwww....:( (none / 0) (#75)
by moondancer on Sun May 21, 2006 at 04:20:15 PM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
typical (2.20 / 5) (#78)
by trane on Sun May 21, 2006 at 04:39:34 PM EST

stupid female trying to control everyone else with her ideas of what is good and right and moral. fuck the holiday, fuck the laws, give me my drugs and alcholoh k thx bye.

hahaha..controlling??? have a double!! lol (none / 1) (#79)
by moondancer on Sun May 21, 2006 at 04:44:38 PM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
well ok (none / 1) (#80)
by trane on Sun May 21, 2006 at 04:50:04 PM EST

but if you expect sex for it forget about it.

[ Parent ]
no, but I would share your tequila :) (none / 1) (#82)
by moondancer on Sun May 21, 2006 at 05:05:32 PM EST


**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
...on account of the windstorms and the bears (none / 1) (#89)
by Robert Acton on Mon May 22, 2006 at 06:21:14 AM EST

Please be serious.

--
I am cured.
bears are a serious threat (none / 1) (#100)
by Uncle Riley on Tue May 23, 2006 at 11:23:26 AM EST



[ Parent ]
Ah Canada (1.12 / 8) (#92)
by The Real Lord Kano on Mon May 22, 2006 at 02:12:05 PM EST

That little slice of Europe to our north.

It's so cute that Canadians actually think that they have a real country.

LK

Why (none / 0) (#116)
by SniperClops on Wed May 24, 2006 at 04:52:12 PM EST

Why do we celebrate this as a holiday?

click on the Queen Victoria link (none / 1) (#119)
by moondancer on Wed May 24, 2006 at 07:28:13 PM EST

in the first part of the story, it explains why its a holiday..:o)
**We are simple and we are free.**United Fools
[ Parent ]
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