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Where to get the real OSS news?

By eries in Internet
Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 07:22:56 PM EST
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Recently, I started doing some freelance writing about news in the open-source world for NewsForge, and my question to the K5 readership is this: where do you go to announce your cool projects? I'm looking for resources, other than the obvious places, to find out about interesting open-source-type things going on in the world. I usually announce my own projects on some combination of SourceForge, Freshmeat, /. and/or K5. Where else should I be looking for newsworthy items?


Are you working on something that you think is news? What kinds of OSS news are you interested in? I'm just starting this gig getting paid to write about all this stuff, so I'm really curious.

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Where to get the real OSS news? | 24 comments (18 topical, 6 editorial, 0 hidden)
drop.org (3.00 / 7) (#3)
by Dries on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 03:38:14 AM EST

I recently released a new website called http://www.drop.org/, a project very similar to kuro5hin.org and slashdot.org, yet written from scratch using PHP, MySQL and Apache. The source code will be released as soon it is well-tested and we reached a well-rounded release version.
Anyway, we do have a category "Anouncements" in which people can announce their projects or any other news-worthy items. In addition, http://www.drop.org/ will hopefully become a interesting site to syndicate news from.
-- Dries
-- Dries
Slick... (4.33 / 3) (#5)
by rusty on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 07:18:06 AM EST

That's a pretty slick system. I'm glad to see some of Scoop's ideas being taken and pushed along by new stuff. How long have you been working on the Drop engine?

Oh, and one suggestion: make real emails editable. You will eventually, I guarantee it. I didn't want to do that either, but people change emails all the time, and they'll start emailing you to do it if they can't themselves. :-)

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Not the real rusty
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It's in the pipeline (4.00 / 3) (#6)
by Dries on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 08:10:23 AM EST

E-mails will be made editable. It's on my TODO list. I just did not get around doing so as it is considered quite some work (requires validation through a confirmation hash/mail).

And to answer your question: I have been working on it for more then 6 months whenever I had some time to kill. It is a hobby project. I have my own thoughts and idea's when it comes down to moderation and I'm going to implement them (and experiment with them) as soon the current source tree can be tagged "stable".

I would like to invite you, rusty - and any other K5 member - to cross post some stories to get us rolling. ;)

-- Dries


-- Dries
[ Parent ]
thank god (1.50 / 2) (#19)
by rusty on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 05:26:06 PM EST

I have been working on it for more then 6 months whenever I had some time to kill.

Phew. I was preparing to feel really inadequate when you said it took a couple weeks. ;-)

And we should really be doing that confirm thing when people want to change their real email. Unfortunately, we don't...

Any good ideas for moderation you come up with, do share! At this point, collaborative media apps are starting to be able to trace their family tree back through the ages, so we should be making sure that new ideas work their way up the tree as well as down, right? :-)

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

Don't panic! (1.00 / 1) (#21)
by Dries on Fri Nov 03, 2000 at 11:33:43 AM EST

Don't panic, it took more then only a few weeks. And I'll keep you posted on our experiments. :)
-- Dries
[ Parent ]
Interesting story for K5? (2.00 / 1) (#23)
by Dries on Fri Nov 03, 2000 at 12:45:23 PM EST

I wrote up a quick and dry story on (discussion/comment) navigation. It is in drop.org's submission queue (or maybe it got pushed to the front page by now). Maybe I should cross-post it to K5 - but I don't have internet access this weekend. :I -- Dries
-- Dries
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OSS and Linux (4.25 / 8) (#4)
by codemonkey_uk on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 07:00:48 AM EST

I do odd little bits of Open Source / Free Software / Freeware (depending on my mood), and I've found that if its not linux, it doesn't matter.

If its not linux, then you cannot get onto the "open source" websites (Freshmeat, Slashdot et al), and the sites for (platform of choice) don't even recognise the difference between Open Source / Free Software and Free/Share-ware.

So, just for the record, I write stuff for the PalmOS, using PocketC. You can find it here: http://www.photo.net/users/Thad/

Theres a game (mirror), an implementation of the ANSI C Standard Library, and PocketIFS (mirror), a IFS fractal designer / viewer.

And, incedentally, while, as far as I can tell, these are the best of their kind for this platform, and for the most part, Free / open source, no one gives a damn.

I probably sound more bitter than I am. Its mostly done for the joy of it, but it would be nice to get a thank you, a patch, a bug report, or even a feature request, you know *some* feedback, once in a while. :)

Thad
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Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell

Announcing PalmOS Open Source stuff... (4.00 / 3) (#10)
by porkchop_d_clown on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 10:57:16 AM EST

Hmmmm...

When I re-wrote my Astro Info program, Source Forge was happy to host my stuff. As for announcing it, I just uploaded it to PalmHQ and one or two other sites. Admittedly, it's not a hugely popular download, but I suspect that's because few Palm users have a need for astronomy software.

On the other hand, it's become widely known enough to be included in PalmOS Programming for Dummies, and two Palm promotional CDs.



People who think "clown" is an insult have never met any.
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Doh! (2.50 / 2) (#11)
by porkchop_d_clown on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 11:14:52 AM EST

Pity I can't write HTML anymore. You can find Astro Info here.



People who think "clown" is an insult have never met any.
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Freshmeat & Sourceforge (4.33 / 3) (#14)
by Denor on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 02:28:34 PM EST

As far as Freshmeat goes, a quick search mostly confirms what you mentioned - I found plenty of linux-centric tools for helping to use the palm, but no software for the palm itself. I did find a few packages of software that were written for more than one operating system (Linux/Windows) but nothing exclusively for another OS. Chances are good that Freshmeat is out.

I know the Palm has a fairly strong following with developers, so I imagine that somewhere out there there's the Palm equivalent of freshmeat. You're probably correct in that they don't know the difference between open source and freeware, but if you just want people to use what you wrote, it really doesn't matter - some text in the 'about' box could be used to mention its free software status, or you could use the GPL as a EULA :)

Sourceforge, on the other hand, is a different story. Just doing a quick search for 'palm' found me quite a few utilities exclusively for the palmpilot. If you want to make your free software status highly visible, that's likely the place you want to go.

If it's incredibly cool, Slashdot might mention it (they like palms too, on that other site :) and I suppose a carefully crafted MLP here to announce the software might be tasteful enough to pass.

I wish you luck! :)


-Denor


[ Parent ]
You said it. (3.16 / 6) (#9)
by sugarman on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 09:30:40 AM EST

I get more than enough OSS news between Slashdot, k5, and freshmeat. Its like watching international news being handled by your local news station. The really important stuff will end up being reported everywhere. So find the one that best fits, and then pay attention when it pops up.


--sugarman--

dotcomma.org (4.40 / 5) (#13)
by atom on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 01:49:45 PM EST

I hate to plug my own site, but I will anyway. The site is at http://www.dotcomma.org/, and though it doesn't provide the same kinds of news that /., k5, etc. provide it gets a unique mix of interesting open source projects. The focus is on programming and open source, not just centered around Linux like all of the examples you mentioned (except maybe k5). Hope this helps.

Btw, your email address (in your user account) is bouncing.

-Adam
dotcomma.org - Resource for programmers
Find a Niche (4.20 / 5) (#15)
by Denor on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 02:36:50 PM EST

There are generic sites to announce your software to, like Freshmeat or a news posting on Sourceforge or even, $DEITY forbid Slashdot, and then there are what I like to call the 'niche' sites.

Take me, for example. I'm writing a game. When it's done, I'll probably announce it on freshmeat. I'll put a news post up on my page. I might even mention it here on K5 if I can think of some way to do it that doesn't translate to "Visit my page!"

Then, I'll head on down to the Linux Game Tome and submit an article there. From that point, I'll move over to Linuxgames.com and mention it to their editors. There are probably more games sites for linux, and I'll start looking in more detail once I'm done, but the idea remains the same: I'll announce on the generic sites, then on my niche sites.

If you'd like news of software being released, freshmeat et al. is likely to cover most everything. But be sure to stop in on the niche sites as well, just to make certain. :)


-Denor


Sometimes No Niches Exist. (4.50 / 2) (#18)
by Devil Ducky on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 04:29:33 PM EST

I announce to freshmeat, and occsionally on sourceforge.

/. wouldn't care, and why "announce" it on K5 when I can just mention it as much as possible?

My software is a MP3 creation tool, I have many competitors but no niche. MP3 is just too broad a category to have many useful sites that care. I contacted the webmasters of the programs that I front-end to notify them that I am using their software, but that relies on the webmasters willingness to add my link to their site. I contacted mp3.com and similar sites to no avail, and no reply.

freshmeat.net causes a bit of stirring/downloads everytime I do an announcement (more and more every time) but actual bug-reporters and such only come in waves.

Recently there has been no contact from my users at all. I just accept that no news is good news and watch the download count climb. Unfortunately I am reaching the point when I don't know what to add to the program or where any bugs may be. I have plans for far off into the future but I do not want to start to implement those yet due to time restraints.

Oh Well, When something goes majorly wrong (and knowing my programming style, it will) then I will get a rush of e(-)mails demanding that I fix it immediately...

Devil Ducky
Devil Ducky

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cola (4.20 / 5) (#16)
by enterfornone on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 03:14:47 PM EST

doesn't anyone use comp.os.linux.announce anymore?

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Bouncing email (3.66 / 3) (#20)
by eries on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 08:26:50 PM EST

Just wanted to apologize to anyone who has wanted to email me. For some reason, the DNS record on "catalystrecruiting.com" just vanished today. Great timing, right? Anyway, if you want to drop me a note for any reason, please use my other email address:

eric.ries@yale.edu


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linuxtoday (3.00 / 1) (#24)
by jfinke on Fri Nov 03, 2000 at 04:25:34 PM EST

I read linuxtoday . It is mostly linux centered (obviously), but it does touch on other issues in the OSS community. j

Software Update Notifications (2.00 / 1) (#25)
by wpidalamar on Sat Nov 04, 2000 at 02:44:05 PM EST

O.K, here's a shameless plug. I've created a site that you can sign up for email notifications when new software is made available. It uses the freshmeat database, so most applications are already in it, and gets kept up to date.
http://www.wpidalamar.com/projects/freshmeat/
It's free, there's no advertising, it's just plain fun :)
Geek4.com... news by anyone.
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