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What to do with Kurodot.org?

By TOCie in Internet
Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 10:25:57 AM EST
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Long long ago, Segfault began running occasional stories featuring a mythical site called Kurodot, which ran a combination of Scoop and Slashcode called Sloop... all the stories simply being copies of whatever Slashdot and Kuro5hin were running at the time. I found the articles quite amusing.

Near the end of July 2000, I noticed that the domain hadn't even yet registered. Fearing that someone would do so and then do Evil Things with it, I registered the domain...


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I corresponded with the author of the Kurodot articles, and the folks in charge of Segfault for a while, but we never really came up with anything worthwhile to do.

I've thrown around various ideas over the past few months, including actually following through and making it a real, live site, powered by a new (simple) weblog system. Of course, it wouldn't just copy /. and K5's content. That's just silly.

What do YOU think I should do with it?

Throw out your ideas!

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What to do with Kurodot.org? | 27 comments (20 topical, 7 editorial, 0 hidden)
What to do? (4.66 / 3) (#4)
by Tatarigami on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 12:14:18 AM EST

The idea started out as a parody, why not keep it going? Make it a humour site.

You'd need to branch out from lampooning weblogs, though. They're self-referential enough already that to add another layer could see you spiraling inward until you get sucked into your own event horizon.


Isn't it obvious? (4.25 / 4) (#5)
by Seumas on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 12:19:14 AM EST

  • goatse.cs
  • hot grits
  • natalie portman naked and petrified
What about slash5hin.org?
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I just read K5 for the articles.
You are all sheep, being led to the slaughter! (none / 0) (#10)
by kevsan on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 01:27:46 AM EST

I knew it! The aforementioned slash5hin.org looks exactly like the current kuro5hin!

It was so obvious that rusty and Inoshiro would sell out to the OSDN! They're collaborating with slashdot. It's officially a conspiracy! Call Art Bell!

Oh, wait. Here's the real slash5hin.org. :)

-K
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Whoops. (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by Seumas on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 03:03:49 AM EST

Typed kuro5hin.org into the href by habit. That's what I get for working 19 hours straight. : )
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I just read K5 for the articles.
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Humor.. (4.50 / 2) (#7)
by driph on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 12:29:44 AM EST

Hmm..

I like the idea posted below about making it into a humor site... Download a copy of Sloop, everyone's favorite weblog application, and get it running. Then open the queue and see what kind of submissions you can get... Maybe parodying the latest headlines on K5 and /. would be an easy way to start.

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Vegas isn't a liberal stronghold. It's the place where the rich and powerful gamble away their company's pension fund and strangle call girls in their hotel rooms. - Psycho Dave

Actually... (3.00 / 1) (#9)
by TOCie on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 01:05:12 AM EST

I was seriously considering creating a combo of the standout features of Scoop and Slashcode.... Message moderation by editors, then voting.

;)

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Hmm (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by leviathan on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 10:22:05 AM EST

Take scoop. Remove user submission of stories. Submit stories to the queue from /.'s RDF feed. Hence you've got /. without the /. crowd.

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competition (none / 0) (#13)
by Platy on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 04:26:48 AM EST

some competition for segfault? :)
oh, it is said competition is innovative so both sites can only get better with this...
J.
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Tongue-tied and twisted, just an earthbound misfit, I.
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Kurodot == Land o mis-fit toys (4.80 / 5) (#8)
by turtleshadow on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 12:32:14 AM EST

Make it the Pick & Save of /. and K5 --- the offbrand stories get sent there.

I envision K. the magical place of mis-fit toys :>

Turtleshadow

Aggregate! (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by strepsil on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 03:43:48 AM EST

Take the RSS feeds from k5 and /. and merge them together into one huge horrible mess. Or link k5 stories with /. comments.

Isn't kurodot.org supposed to be a site nobody ever visited? I recall the article about the "Lack of Interest Attack". The above suggestions would certainly achieve that. :)

Actually, to digress for a moment - does anyone know what's up with Segfault right now? I haven't been able to get through for almost a week now and I've almost got a new piece ready to submit ...

The fate of Segfault (none / 0) (#24)
by leonardr on Fri Jun 08, 2001 at 06:17:25 PM EST

Segfault is hosted by VA, and following the SourceForge crack they took the box down and have yet to put it back up. I don't know the details, but they may be hindered by the fact that the fellow who knew the root password no longer works at VA.

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What to do, what to do (none / 0) (#14)
by codemonkey_uk on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 06:05:12 AM EST

Start simple, like this (your text from above, with added linkage):
Long long ago, Segfault began running occasional stories featuring a mythical site called Kurodot, which ran a combination of Scoop and Slashcode called Sloop... all the stories simply being copies of whatever Slashdot and Kuro5hin were running at the time. I found the articles quite amusing.

Near the end of July 2000, I noticed that the domain hadn't even yet registered. Fearing that someone would do so and then do Evil Things with it, I registered the domain...

Then, if you can really be bothered, you could use the three sites respective RDF backends to make the site more contentful...
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
kurodot.org... (4.33 / 3) (#15)
by _Quinn on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 07:09:51 AM EST

   ... technology and culture, stuff that matters?

   Actually, I think "technology and culture: the stuff that matters" would be a much more interesting site. The sloop code (revision JOHN.B, of course :)), would have its own motto -- following the winds of prevailing opinion. There would be four moderation options: agree, disagree, well written, poorly written. (+/- 1 topical,
+/- 1 editorial) Instead of articially maintaining the post/story distinction, the 'front page' would be generated by slurping the most active (responses, ratings) posts of the last N time periods. Additionally, you could see the most recent posts, and the highest (lowest) rated topical (editorial) posts.

   Since I'm in a good mood, I won't patent (registered trademark) the above paragraph. :)

-_Quinn
Reality Maintenance Group, Silver City Construction Co., Ltd.
Motto (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by xrayspx on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 08:42:39 AM EST

In any case, it's better than News for Nerds, From the Trenches.


"I see one maggot, it all gets thrown away" -- My Wife
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Life imitating art (5.00 / 5) (#19)
by jabber on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 11:30:24 AM EST

Realize the dream!

Run Scoop (duh!) but with the Slash color setup by section.
Have it completely automated to leech content from both sites.
Throw in some scripts to automagically post articles and '5' posts by the K5 Cabal.
Throw in a randomizer to occasionally embed a link to goatse.cx in some innocuous post, and immediatelly mark it as a "-1 Troll".
Have a completely unmaintainable bowl of spaghetti Perl called KonJatz.pl scan the 'reputable' news sites for mentions of schoolyard violence, individual freedom violations and other such tasty morsels, and paste them together into long, senseless rants. As these post, automatically generate at least 200 "I hate KonJatz" posts and randomly rate these as 'insightful', 'funny' or 'flamebait'.
And don't forget about the "Pist Frost!" posts.

This could be SUCH FUN!

[TINK5C] |"Is K5 my kapusta intellectual teddy bear?"| "Yes"

Thanks everyone (none / 0) (#22)
by TOCie on Thu Jun 07, 2001 at 10:17:56 PM EST

Now that I have stuff to chew on....

Rejected Submissions (4.00 / 1) (#23)
by captaingoodnight on Fri Jun 08, 2001 at 01:47:13 PM EST

Post all of the rejected submissions from K5 and /. Some of them are bound to be interesting in one way or another.

Rob

Take a "Pair o' Dese" Web Sites.... (none / 0) (#25)
by Monster on Sat Jun 09, 2001 at 08:38:12 PM EST

One implication of the conjoined name would be that members of Kurodot must, when registering there, first be registered on both "parent" sites. Now, how to prove that? It's easy enough to have two fields on the signup form to put in the two ids....

Got it! When you submit your application, you generate your tentative Kurodot userid#, which is emailed to you. Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to embed it into your K5 diary and /. bio, in the form [K.11870] (obviously it won't be my K5 userid, but you get the idea), and then go back to Kurodot (hereafter abbreviated K.) to confirm. When you push the magic button that says you're done, it tells the 'bot there to go check those two places for the string.

Once you've gotten back confirmation that you've been accepted, you could delete the string, or perhaps leave it there as a sign to those who know what it means...

I know, it looks a bit like an old compuserve email address, but that's ok, too.
SVM, ERGO MONSTRO

Make it real! (none / 0) (#26)
by yojimbo-san on Thu Jun 14, 2001 at 07:33:59 AM EST

Well, slashshin.org and slash5hin are also available :-)

So I'd suggest getting both, write a system called sloop that takes the published stories from each site, but runs them in the style of the other site.

But perhaps posting on a sloop site should result in an AC posting on the story-origin site?

:-)


Quick wafting zephyrs vex bold Jim

Where both sites lack (none / 0) (#27)
by digitalh2o on Sun Jul 01, 2001 at 04:00:14 PM EST

Build upon the idea of the author above... members would have to belong to both sites but make kurodot a site about the people behind the IDs.... or you could just go for the humor!

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