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Underground Newspaper at the Naval Academy

By westfirst in Media
Fri Oct 27, 2000 at 11:11:28 AM EST
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The Baltimore Sun has a great story on an underground paper at the Naval Academy in Annapolis. The students continue to publish the paper despite a ban from the leadership risking expulsion. Frankly, the story they ran about the dump truck full of dead dogs sure sounds like an X-Files case to me.


The Baltimore Sun does not reveal many of the secrets the writers use to get the paper out and I'm not sure they would in any case. It must be something of a challenge because most military installations have some serious hardware firewalls constantly snooping. Of course, who knows who's running the firewalls? It might be someone cool enough to let the newspaper fly. If the existence of the paper is any indication, we might not have as much to fear from the Big Brother types in the military.

So how do you think they get the information out? Do they simply encrypt it? They use a hotmail account which seem like it would be easy to trace. Do they use something like the Freedom Network to route the traffic? The Onion Routing system was developed at the Naval Research Lab just a few miles further south on the Chesapeake Bay.

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Underground Newspaper at the Naval Academy | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
More Manual (3.83 / 6) (#1)
by schporto on Fri Oct 27, 2000 at 10:09:50 AM EST

I wonder if it could be a more manual dispersion. I mean an paper letter home that then gets typed in and put on the site. A phone call to a friend. Even an encrypted email out (although I wonder if that might get noticed). It did say there were civilians in California that were helping, so maybe there is a non-computer link. That makes it suddenly pretty hard to trace. Or at least it does to me. I am curious how they do it. -cpd

Less effort then that (2.66 / 3) (#2)
by jabber on Fri Oct 27, 2000 at 11:35:59 AM EST

Someone has a PC, and does the issues.
Puts them on a ZIP disk and hands/mails it to a buddy outside the gate.
Buddy puts them on outside server.

The mystery of it isn't a big deal -
neither is the non-sanctioning by the Academy.
It's funny, so I gave it a +1.
But for the site itself, not the story.

It belongs in MLP, or humour.

[TINK5C] |"Is K5 my kapusta intellectual teddy bear?"| "Yes"
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Ugh! (2.10 / 10) (#3)
by end0parasite on Sat Oct 28, 2000 at 11:28:44 AM EST

This is bad. People in the military are supposed to be disciplined. One of these days those cadets will have lives on their hands. I shudder at the thought of, someday, have these people defending me.

They need to realize that when you join the US armed forces you don't get a damn voice. You become part of a whole. That's the whole idea of uniforms in the military. It's not about you, it's about the country; it's about the corps.

I'm not sure if this is just a bunch of cadets whose hormones haven't died down from junior high or an example of failed discipline in the military. I hope they get caught.

Get a Clue! (1.75 / 4) (#4)
by tmckain on Sat Oct 28, 2000 at 10:38:24 PM EST

So I would gather from your posting that you would also believe that an employee of a corporate body has no voice, should have no spirit and are to be treated altogether as non-humans. Essentially, what you're suggesting is the following attitudes: Enter the door, wear your uniform dutifully and keep your mouth shut, you have no voice, you are non-human, you don't matter, you're automaton, you're useless--rediculous to say the very least. The military needs human resources, otherwise computers or robots would suffice. And with that come trade-offs--a little bit of chaos.

The military is America Corporate epitomized (supposedly) and even they have wisened up beyond the Stone Age perspective you appear to express. The military has evolved in consideration that their forces are human so allowances must be had, because otherwise they're difficult to manage. It is in their best interest to afford such attitudes because they have no choice in the matter.

Its called quality of life, which the military seeks to provide in ever larger quantity because even they are realizing that there is only so much you can expect. That is the whole purpose of having a human resource for military service is to express their experiences, teach others and a duty to protect and serve--essential principles of the human condition.

Whether it is official condoned or not, I submit that CO's probably are well aware of this activity and it's participants and allow this little bit of expression, this little bit of chaos, to help keep things in order.

So come on, get a clue!

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How old are you? 10? (1.60 / 5) (#6)
by end0parasite on Sun Oct 29, 2000 at 01:00:06 AM EST

Show a little respect. Our military is responsible for you having a home country. Next time you don't see hundreds of Iraqi troops quartering in your home town, think if the military.

Corperations fight for money. The military fights for glory and honor, not freedom. You get that when you retire. And don't you ever get the two mixed up.

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How old are you? 15? (2.50 / 4) (#7)
by Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated on Sun Oct 29, 2000 at 10:22:39 AM EST

They might tell you all that Glory And Honour bullshit in school, but here is how it works the the Gloried Halls Of Democracy. The Good Guys, that's us, try to get funding from the Bad Guys, that's them. This involves power plays, friends in high places, political campaigns (when the military leadership should be above politics), etc. Not good. Not much in the way of Glory And Honour. Lots of the same old politicking that goes on every day on the Hill, and we're all sick of it. Huzzah for the gentlemen of the Log, because I'd rather have individuals with Functioning Cerebrums(tm) than mindless, emotionless *MONSTERS* (e.g. pigs, cops, glorps, the Pinks, norms, etc.) protecting me any day of the week and twice on, uh, Sundays.

Uncommon courage and discipline requires individuals capable of thinking through a situation and Doing The Right Thing. Creativity and discipline under fire are NOT mutually exclusive, and courage does NOT mean that you don't fear anything.



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Rev. Dr. Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated, KSC, mhm21x16, and the Patron Saint of All Things Plastic fnord
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Clue time (2.25 / 4) (#8)
by tmckain on Sun Oct 29, 2000 at 02:43:15 PM EST

It seems your perspective on the matter is wrapped up in the glory days b.s. and the ideals of half-time commercials. This is reality bubba with real people. The same people you pretend to admire. Absolutely, I have respect for military personel, nor have I suggested otherwise. If you actually read my posting rather than reacting to it, my position seeks absolutely to respect military personel, just as the military body--by recognizing that they are human beings with needs and desires that cannot be squelched. Besides, your comparison of coporate and military goals is sadly mistaken. Do you actually think that the primary function of the military is to fight for glory and honor? What a crock! They fight for world stability by protecting our and our allies financial and political interests. Again, corporate america epitomized. Believing otherwise is simply a denialistic masturbatory fantasy for men in uniform.

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You have never served. (2.00 / 1) (#13)
by Narcischizm on Thu Nov 02, 2000 at 12:02:24 PM EST

I would ask you to show a little respect. To suggest that the people that serve to defend your country should be mindless automatons belittles them as individuals. However we might disagree with some actions of the military as an arm of our system of government, the individual members serve a real purpose, and that purpose cannot be realized if we look at them as merely glory-seeking cannon fodder.

It is obvious that you have never served. Perhaps one of your relatives was in Vietnam, The Gulf, Grenada, wherever. It is obvious that you have not served since you believe that you check your humanity at the door when you sign that paper.

It is obvious that you have not served if you believe that every action the United States undertakes is purely for glory and honor. The Gulf Wars are about money, Grenada was about money. It took so long for us to pay attention to the Cerbo-Croations and Somalians because it wasn't about money, nor was it about glory. It was a function of many nations demanding that the Right thing be done. No one fights for glory, it is counterproductive and depletes necessary resources. Honor and Glory are by-products of action, military or otherwise.

It is obvious that you have never served because simply, you contradict yourself. The military is responsible for our freedom, but that is not the purpose for which they serve? (financial, political, philisopical freedoms). You sound like you've seen too many WWII movies, not from personal experience. Join, then state your opinion on freedom.

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piss off, troll (2.00 / 6) (#5)
by sayke on Sun Oct 29, 2000 at 12:15:20 AM EST

i would vastly prefer to have a free-thinking, order-questioning, enlightened-self-interest-motavated person defending me then the mindless, submissive clone you advocate. and ya know what? i think you prefer it, too, desipte what you publicly advocate.

i think you're trolling your ass off. go back to slashdot.


sayke, v2.3.1 /* i am the middle finger of the invisible hand */
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Individual Voice (4.50 / 2) (#9)
by sprocket on Mon Oct 30, 2000 at 04:00:31 AM EST

They need to realize that when you join the US armed forces you don't get a damn voice. You become part of a whole. That's the whole idea of uniforms in the military. It's not about you, it's about the country; it's about the corps.
These individuals are to become officers in the United States Navy. They will command weapons systems capable of impressive amounts of firepower. They will command men and women who entrust their careers and lives to these future leaders. And their decissions may mean the difference between life and death for those who they command and anyone else who may come in harm's way.

They are not mindless cogs in some machine.

My military training involved a study of the Nuremberg trials. This stressed the duty of all servicemembers in the United State Military - ensuring that they follow only legal orders. This requires a strong moral standing, the willingness to question and think for oneself, and the fortitude to stand up to pressure to accept questionable actions.

The existance of a less "fluff" publication for midshipman may be an inconvenience to the Navy's beucracy (one has to wonder about any organization that fears being questioned). However, it proves that they do in fact have people of strong moral conviction within their ranks. That this moral conviction exists within the US Military strengthens my confidence in its future leadership.

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Individual Voice (4.66 / 3) (#10)
by sprocket on Mon Oct 30, 2000 at 04:02:48 AM EST

They need to realize that when you join the US armed forces you don't get a damn voice. You become part of a whole. That's the whole idea of uniforms in the military. It's not about you, it's about the country; it's about the corps.
These individuals are to become officers in the United States Navy. They will command weapons systems capable of impressive amounts of firepower. They will command men and women who entrust their careers and lives to these future leaders. And their decissions may mean the difference between life and death for those who they command and anyone else who may come in harm's way.

They are not mindless cogs in some machine.

My military training involved a study of the Nuremberg trials. This stressed the duty of all servicemembers in the United State Military - ensuring that they follow only legal orders. This requires a strong moral standing, the willingness to question and think for oneself, and the fortitude to stand up to pressure to accept questionable actions.

The existance of a less "fluff" publication for midshipman may be an inconvenience to the Navy's beucracy (one has to wonder about any organization that fears being questioned). However, it proves that they do in fact have people of strong moral conviction within their ranks. That this moral conviction exists within the US Military strengthens my confidence in its future leadership.

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Hello, Flamebait! (3.66 / 3) (#11)
by JonesBoy on Mon Oct 30, 2000 at 09:06:05 AM EST

Hello people! This comment was a good time, slashdot quality flamebait. From the looks of it, people are taking it hook line and sinker.

Then again, who said the paper had to move on the internet out of the facility? Perhaps people are writing it while off post. It is a lot easier to get around a firewall by walking than hacking or encrypting. They are probably doing it from an internet cafe, friend's house, or just by mailing a diskette out to a friend to publish. Never underestimate the power of a floppy-copy.


Speeding never killed anyone. Stopping did.
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ahh brings back memories :) (5.00 / 4) (#12)
by SEAL on Mon Oct 30, 2000 at 04:04:37 PM EST

I finally found a topic I can easily comment on. I'm USNA class of 94 :)

Anyhow, I guess I'll start with a little background. The Log is a midshipman (student) publication. When I was there, it was in the traditional magazine format, and had grudging approval from the powers-that-be. Unfortunately, they started censoring it after awhile, first cracking down on the ever popular "Company Cuties" section. I'm guessing this was in the wake of the harassment allegations from a female mid who got caught up in some light hazing summer of '90. They really started cracking down on physical stuff towards the end of my plebe summer. 1-90 was a hands off policy... i.e. no more rumbles in Bancroft :(

The Log continued on, though. Most of the articles are ALOT funnier if you are a midshipman because they make lots of references to real people. They'll always use a name like "3/C Lush" but everyone knows exactly who they are talking about. It is a small university so, much like a small town - everyone knows everyone else's business :)

The officers at the academy have never liked The Log much. I fondly remember standing watch one night, bored out of my skull, reading the magazine. A commander strolled up on deck and I didn't see him in time. After he saw what I was reading, I was offered the privilege of visiting his office after my shift was over. Oh what fun... I'm still amazed I didn't get fried.

I'm not sure which year The Log was completely banned, but it's good to see it on the web. However, I'm fairly certain "Salty" doesn't run it from the school's servers. Upperclassmen at the academy can spend most of their weekends off campus, and there are sponsor families that provide mids with a place to hang out if their real families are far away. So this guy probably just logs on with their internet account and uploads his stuff to a non-government web hosting place.

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble about a top secret scheme to evade the military's security :)

Best regards,

SEAL

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.
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