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Who Is Your Neighbor?

By snowlion in Meta
Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 04:20:08 PM EST
Tags: Culture (all tags)

Would you like to meet fellow K5'ers?

Consider this proposal.

Rusty should make optional boxes for entering your latitude and longitude coordinates. Radio buttons input whether your coordinates are public, public only to those who query ("protected"), or private.

A box stores a search radius (required, limited to a maximum), next to a button that reads "find people near me." Two optional boxes input latitude & longitude, next to another button labeled "find people near coordinates."

That's so you aren't confined to your home coordinates- maybe you are planning on bumming a night in Portland, interested in knowing if any K5'ers happen to live near Qatar, or are curious about how many K5'ers live in San Jose and San Fransisco, or over the hill in Santa Cruz, Aptos, and Watsonville.

When a button's hit, public and protected people in the query region are listed. The user checks their posts and diaries to see if they are safe and sane. If they are, the user clicks "arrange e-mail discussion" to set up a discussion, in order to arrange a meeting, or guarantee intelligence on the other end.

This might prompt meetings between social K5'ers. Of course, you might find that your K5 enemies (for example, Republicans) live near you as well. It could prompt violence and wanton distruction...

Would anyone use this? I would. So the question is now: Would anyone else use it?

It's probably a lot of work for Rusty, but I thought I'd propose it and at least see what people thought about it, regardless of whether Rusty has the time to implement it or not.

This could be easily extended to other Internet discussion groups as well, and it's not hard to imagine improvements- maps with graphic dots on them indicating the population, the ability to specify country and state, the ability to store pictures, gender, age, and sexual availability, and notification when new users appear in your area, to list a few.

Point of Clarity: What is the point of "protected" coordinates?

Public coordinates would be listed along with user posts, diary entries, etc.,. Protected coordinates would only appear in response to a geographic query, such as "who lives near me".


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Would you meet K5 freaks?
o Yes, I LIKE freaks! 27%
o If I knew them from discussion. 13%
o If I liked their diary or posts. 10%
o Probably not. 18%
o Nah, I'm too busy posting! 1%
o No. I don't like you. Any of you. 16%
o My wife/girlfriend/diety would disapprove. 4%
o Go away, commie freak! 7%

Votes: 159
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Who Is Your Neighbor? | 52 comments (48 topical, 4 editorial, 1 hidden)
cool. (4.40 / 5) (#1)
by terpy on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 04:20:24 AM EST

it would be very interesting. Could also create some cool maps showing locations of users, similar to this for debian developers...

<joh3n> BUKKAKE: the final frontier
<joh3n> these are the stories of the starship: jizziprize

Hmm, (3.00 / 1) (#27)
by ImgZen on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 11:42:50 AM EST

nice map, but I can't find Europe. Damn "copyright traps" ( http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_165.html )
"In the end, everything is a gag." -- Chaplin
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ooh... (4.16 / 6) (#3)
by enterfornone on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 04:24:24 AM EST

can I search based on gender and sexual preference?

efn 26/m/syd
Will sponsor new accounts for porn.
I was thinking the same thing (3.50 / 2) (#7)
by x00 on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 05:54:16 AM EST

I suspect you'd need "Marital Status" in there too....

[ Parent ]
Not if he's just looking for someone to stalk... (4.25 / 4) (#9)
by ZanThrax on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 06:26:54 AM EST

Stroke my ego. Vote in my diary polls.
[ Parent ]
sign me up (4.66 / 3) (#5)
by cp on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 05:02:57 AM EST

If there's anything more fun than being an asshole online, it's having that fact come to you in the black of some terrible night and bring a pointy reckoning that will shudder you.

It sounds fun (4.00 / 2) (#6)
by pumpkin on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 05:53:48 AM EST

Everyone already knows where I live, though, and it is a source of constant concern for me.

Given enough people who dislike you, it is only a matter of time before one of them tries to do something about it.

With love, pumpkin
Go to User preferences (3.75 / 4) (#10)
by wiredog on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 07:47:18 AM EST

There's a section called "Bio". If you want to be contacted f2f, put the data there. Or maybe, as someone mentioned, in your diary.

That said, it would be fun to get a k5 group together here in the DC area on a Saturday afternoon sometime.

Peoples Front To Reunite Gondwanaland: "Stop the Laurasian Separatist Movement!"

Poll option not sufficiently forceful... (4.14 / 7) (#11)
by ZanThrax on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 08:22:09 AM EST

No. I don't like you. Any of you.
understates my opinion on meeting people from the net in general. I'm more along the lines of "Stay the fuck away from me you freaks! If I wanted to interact with people directly, do you think I'd be spending time engaging in online discussions?"
Stroke my ego. Vote in my diary polls.
Exactly (3.75 / 4) (#12)
by DesiredUsername on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 08:35:22 AM EST

Although I wouldn't say I *dislike* everyone here. I just have less than no interest in meeting anyone. I went to a BBS pizza party one time with a friend who was into BBS's. Big mistake.

The best case scenario is that the two of you hit it off and have a meta-discussion about K5 for maybe 20 minutes, then begin to awkwardly wonder why you drove an hour to see this person.

If you can't imagine the worst case scenario, then you haven't attended a LUG meeting in a while.

A slightly more interesting idea would be a big group party where everyone but me had to wear nametags with their userid. Then I could see what you all look and act like and hear your voices, but still stay anonymous myself and not be required to actually talk to anyone. Yeah, let's do that.

Play 囲碁
[ Parent ]

IRC ... (4.00 / 1) (#19)
by aphrael on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 07:02:35 PM EST

The best case scenario is that the two of you hit it off and have a meta-discussion about K5 for maybe 20 minutes, then begin to awkwardly wonder why you drove an hour to see this person.

I'm not sure that's true; ragabr and I met in June and had a great deal of fun. :) But we were both heavy ircers at the time, and that might have made all the difference. :)

[ Parent ]

BBS pizza parties (4.00 / 1) (#23)
by Weezul on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 04:43:04 AM EST

I had loads of fun at BBSer pizza parties when I was in middle school. I suppose that might have had something to do with all the beer. :)

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini
[ Parent ]
ROTFL. (4.00 / 1) (#13)
by porkchop_d_clown on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 08:43:21 AM EST

You aren't that guy who writes the back page editorials for PC Gamer, are you?

OTOH - I am often curious what country the person is I'm talking with. Not that I would ever leave my house, or anything.

People who think "clown" is an insult have never met any.
[ Parent ]
This is a pretty good idea (4.00 / 2) (#14)
by ennui on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 09:36:06 AM EST

The fake URL's people put in their profiles are so witty and creative, I'd love to see what silly locations people decide to enter if this scheme was adopted! I bet we'd find lots of people who live near Santa Claus! LOL! :-D

Seriously, this "story" probably belongs on scoop.k5, or learn Perl (it takes only minutes!) and submit a patch.

"You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone." -- Al Capone

Exactly (4.00 / 1) (#21)
by makaera on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 12:30:47 AM EST

I can think of many uninhabited places in the Pacific Ocean where I could reside. Moving around in this vast expanse of water could keep me busy for years.

"Ninety rounds in there," Joel Andrews said. "If you can't take it down with 90 rounds, you better turn in your badge!" -- from Washington Post
[ Parent ]

Bleah. Meeting people (4.20 / 5) (#16)
by enry on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 10:32:59 AM EST

Last group of online people I met with (aside from LUGs) was a TIM (online MUSH thing) party back in...'92. Everyone smelled real bad and had some distinctive personality disorders. Stay away from me you freaks.

Targetting solutions.... (3.80 / 5) (#17)
by Elkor on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 01:08:28 PM EST

Then all I would need is an ICBM missile platform and I can take out people that disagree with me.



"I won't tell you how to love God if you don't tell me how to love myself."
-Margo Eve
Attn: Freaks (4.33 / 3) (#18)
by Anoymous 22666 on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 02:27:51 PM EST

To all the people that say something like this:
I met [online | bbs] people [in '98 | last year]: what a mess. What a bunch of smelly freaks!
If everyone else there was a freak and a loser... Well... I think you know where I'm going with this... :-)

Maybe there should be also be an option of personal hygene, with quantified levels:

  • None. Hygene is a concept invented by cosmetic manufacturers to sell product.
  • I bathe and / or change my underwear monthly. What's deoderant?
  • I bathe and / or change my underwear weekly. I occasionally partake in a hobby I call "applying pit-stick."
  • I bathe and change my underwear daily, except in the case of natural disasters. I apply deoderant daily as well.
  • I have a fear of dirt, and am posting this message from my bathtub (which I rarely leave). Argh! Dirty keyboard! Dirty keyboard!

I just farted... And I blame the fiction section. - Psycho Les

On underwear and smell... (none / 0) (#28)
by chipuni on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 01:31:04 PM EST

I bathe and change my underwear daily, except in the case of natural disasters.

In the case of natural disasters, I have to change my underwear immediately!

And, besides, you missed one...

I was raised by wolves. Before I meet anyone, I roll around in the smelliest carcass I can find!

Perfection is not reached when nothing more can be added, but only when nothing more can be taken away.
Wisdom for short attention spans.
[ Parent ]
Might be cool (4.00 / 1) (#20)
by Crackerman111 on Wed Jan 09, 2002 at 11:27:20 PM EST

It seems to me as though there are a lot of intelligent, insightful people on K5, and I'm always interested in meeting people like that. Of course there's always the possibility that your personal information could get into the hands of some freak.

If implemented, a nice feature to have would be the ability to enable access only to those that are in good standing with K5. For example, if someone just signed up, they would not be allowed to see your personal information. On the other hand, if someone regularly participates in the discussions and is often moderated up, this person would be allowed to see your info. This feature would at least filter out most of the freaks.

My reason for BBS nostalgia (4.00 / 1) (#24)
by Skwirl on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 05:52:09 AM EST

I'm pretty sure nothing truely good ever came out of a BBS user meet. Made acquantances of a handful of people. Had awkward encounters with many people. Wasted years pining over girls I'd never spent more than an hour at a time with in real life. Wasted a week dating a crazy online chick. Flinched while my female online friends dated crazy online guys. Really, I'd like to wash my hands of the whole ordeal.

The problem is, the BBS scene had something that the internet will probably never have: geological relevance. There was always a chance that you'd meet anybody you talked to, and since there were only a limited number of places to call, each BBS tended to have a diverse user group. The number of destinations on the internet means that self-selection will cause like-minds to congregate. To mix a metaphor: The marketplace of ideas on the internet has a lot of inbreeding. If I didn't meet and have discussions with tons of Christians, Wiccans and whathaveyou in the BBS world, I'd probably still be running around like a prick trying to convert everybody to atheism.

Location's interesting, but I'm also curious about some of the other demographics on K5. Without any hard stats, I'm just going to keep on assuming that K5 is just the subset of /.'ers that couldn't stand seeing another John Katz article. That is to say, most of the diversity is just permutations on the white (upper) middle class male theme.

"Nothing in the world is more distasteful to a man than to take the path that leads to himself." -- Herman Hesse
The London K5abal Meats... (5.00 / 1) (#25)
by Mr Tom on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 07:06:59 AM EST

.. fairly irregularily, but frequently.

And we're mostly a bunch of intelligent young gentlemen who are able to sustain an involving and informative discussion over a few beers.

Join us! We are normal! And no-one's a rabid sociopath, which is always nice. :-)

Favourite topics of conversation are as diverse as bitching about K5, convincing (the other) Tom(buck) to go to uni, pr0n, life in London, mocking Tom (me) for falling for another streetlawyer story, pr0n, C++ routine optimisation, chemical adjustments to one's psyche, pr0n, the internatilnal banking system. Sometimes someone mentions pr0n. ;-)

I've been going to BBS/FidoNet/Internet meets since I was 14. (Blimey, that's nearly a decade!), and have never had any tedious ubernerds drawling on about MUD characters inflict themselves on me yet... They're a laugh, and helps put people's K5/BBS/Fiso/whatever comments into context.

And it's another excuse to drink beer, which is never a bad thing! :-)
-- Mr_Tom<at>gmx.co.uk

I am a consultant. My job is to make your job redundant.

Manchester? (none / 0) (#26)
by sL1mB0y on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 11:18:25 AM EST

OK, I only lurk around K5 on and off, and post even less, but is there a K5 meet in the north of England ever? Like in Manchester? My e-mail should be attached somewhere so mail me back and I'll even bookmark this story so I can check back later if someone replies :)

And yes, I am quite normal (I'm told) in real life ;)

[ Parent ]
Presuming that I've got the correct Tom... (none / 0) (#31)
by rasilon on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 10:02:45 AM EST

We first met in real life at Kendo. (I have yet to turn up to an LK5abal meet though.)

[ Parent ]
Not coordinates, but place names (none / 0) (#29)
by nstenz on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 07:46:26 PM EST

The other 'message board' type sites that I frequent usually have a user field to type in your location: Chicago, IL, USA or what have you. I think that would work a bit better. You couldn't search for other people near a certain location, but you could see where people were from if they wanted you to. Every BBS I've ever been on had the same type of setup- you could query their user details and find out where they were from. You could make the location linkable to Mapquest or something too so people could see a map of where you are if they had no idea where "Bumfuckville, MN" was.

I also like the idea of only users in good standing being able to see the locations. Restricting it to trusted users only would be quite simple, and not that much of a hassle for people who post the occasional worthwhile message.

Why dump it on Rusty? (none / 0) (#30)
by Holloway on Thu Jan 10, 2002 at 10:14:49 PM EST

I mean aside from the tie-ins of Disney Toyota surely this could be implemented by you (or someone like you) elsewhere.

It's a cute idea. I'll play along.

Just allow us to update it several times a minute though, OK? If I see that streetlawyer is within 50 metres I'll go and give him a big sloppy kiss.

== Human's wear pants, if they don't wear pants they stand out in a crowd. But if a monkey didn't wear pants it would be anonymous

Anarchy (none / 0) (#32)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:30:26 AM EST

Anyone up for trying to find who lives near whom using the threaded comment structure? Be as specific as you like about your whereabouts, and mod down any posts that seek to obfuscate the structure.

I'll start!

Sausages or cheese?
Planet Earth (none / 0) (#33)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:32:17 AM EST

Planet Earth

Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
Europe (none / 0) (#34)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:33:43 AM EST


Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
United Kingdom (none / 0) (#35)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:35:31 AM EST

United Kingdom

Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
Scotland (none / 0) (#36)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:37:08 AM EST


Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
Edinburgh (none / 0) (#37)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:38:31 AM EST


Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
Broughton Street (none / 0) (#38)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 11:40:02 AM EST

Broughton Street

Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
Cool. (none / 0) (#39)
by ambrosen on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 12:21:53 PM EST

Don't know of anyone with a spare room in that area, do you? I'm looking to move. I'm in Polwarth (near Bruntsfield) at the moment.

Procrastination does not make you cool. Being cool makes you procrastinate. DesiredUsername.
[ Parent ]
So it works! (none / 0) (#43)
by synaesthesia on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 04:45:29 PM EST

I'm afraid not. Only last week a friend of mine was advertising a room ("Garden with pond. Broadband Internet.") but the room is now taken. I'll try to remember to let you know if I hear of anything else.

Sausages or cheese?
[ Parent ]
Cheers. (none / 0) (#44)
by ambrosen on Thu Jan 17, 2002 at 10:25:48 AM EST

That sounded like a nice place. Ah, well, I'll have to put some effort into it.

Procrastination does not make you cool. Being cool makes you procrastinate. DesiredUsername.
[ Parent ]
England (none / 0) (#40)
by sL1mB0y on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 02:44:17 PM EST


[ Parent ]
Warrington (none / 0) (#41)
by sL1mB0y on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 02:45:17 PM EST


[ Parent ]
Ashdown Lane (none / 0) (#42)
by sL1mB0y on Fri Jan 11, 2002 at 02:46:03 PM EST

Ashdown Lane

[ Parent ]
Germany (none / 0) (#45)
by nefertari on Fri Mar 08, 2002 at 07:54:03 AM EST


[ Parent ]
Rhineland (none / 0) (#46)
by pnambic on Sat Mar 09, 2002 at 07:52:58 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Bonn (none / 0) (#47)
by pnambic on Sat Mar 09, 2002 at 07:53:24 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Aachen (none / 0) (#50)
by Vs on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 07:14:38 AM EST

Well, Maasland, actually :-)
Where are the immoderate submissions?
[ Parent ]
Eastern Westfalia (none / 0) (#48)
by nefertari on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 05:20:06 AM EST

in German: Ostwestfalen OWL

[ Parent ]
Bielefeld (none / 0) (#49)
by nefertari on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 05:20:33 AM EST

[ Parent ]
Re: Bielefeld (none / 0) (#51)
by Vs on Sat Aug 10, 2002 at 05:16:10 AM EST

You don't exist, go away #-)
Where are the immoderate submissions?
[ Parent ]
How? (none / 0) (#52)
by nefertari on Wed Aug 21, 2002 at 05:05:12 AM EST

should I go away if I don't exist? ;-)

I am currently in our spaceship that looks like a university.

[ Parent ]
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