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Who You Are

By theantix in Meta
Tue May 28, 2002 at 11:56:09 PM EST
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Kuro5hin has had several articles published in the past where users have been encouraged to post a short biographical posting describing themselves. Previous instances include the "Who are you?" series in Part One, Two, Three, and Four. However, I will break with that tradition and instead have me write about the people that frequent this site.

If I have missed someone that you know, I encourage you to post descriptions of them. Please try to refrain from insulting others, and from writing about yourself.


Rusty is the owner and operator of Kuro5hin. He started this site and helped evolve it into this wonderful democratic weblog. On top of that, he seems to be a really nice guy. He has a lot of interest in internet media (duh) and lives on Godforsaken Island, Maine. When he's not involved with coding for scoop or maintaining kuro5hin he often posts insightful comments to the stories.

kwsNI is a graduate engineering student at New Mexico State University. He is known to post lengthy diaries regarding his complicated love life (or at times the lack thereof). Whether its Girlfriday, AOLGirl, or SpringGirl you can follow the trials and tribulations of his life thanks to the k5 diaries. He's a nice guy, too.

MisterQueue is a nutball and a prolific diary writer. His entries are long and rambling, often interlaced with song lyrics from angry metal bands. Always amusing and entertaining, Q and his many personalities help keep k5 to be less of a serious place, especially in the diary ghetto. Rumor has it that MisterQueue is the same person as mrgoat.

DesiredUsername is best known for his regular postings on physics that appear most weekdays in the diary section. Right now he's the host of the k5 weight loss contest. Living in Florida, I think he's older than your average k5er. Also, you might know him from some of his quite entertaining work on slashdot.

theboz is a talented writer and a great contributor to kuro5hin. Residing in Oklahoma, he frequently writes about political, technical, language, and racial issues. When bored he is prone to writing nonsense, but that's all part of his charm. To my knowledge he's also the first person to date someone he met on k5.

spiralx hails from London, England and has the distinction of actually being fired for surfing k5. His diaries describing the decadence of the London nightlife have become a staple on kuro5hin, and have created a wonderful image of life as a Brit. Rumor has is that he writes for adequacy on occasion.

mrgoat is perhaps best known for the oft-repeated assertion that he is every single user on this site. He lives near Boston MA, and is in his early 20s. He has consistently posted repetitive poll options in his diaries for months at a time -- anyone here unfamiliar with Sarah the checkout girl or "Yes, I and I would like the goat to have my children"? If not you aren't paying attention. A funny guy and talented author, he's one of k5's most well-known nutballs.

perdida is a gifted writer, and actually has real talent unlike the rest of us wankers. She's emotional and provocative in her writing, and is always interesting to read. One thing is for sure, she is certainly one of the coolest users on the site. She's an editor at adequacy, and is very outspoken on liberal political issues.

hurstdog is one of the lead scoop developers, and a very personable guy. He's from Southern California, and has recently gotten a new job after turning down an offer from Microsoft. He's a talented Perl and mySQL coder and a valuable member of the scoop team. He plays water polo and enjoys surfing.

duxup is one of the best-recognized nicks on kuro5hin. Do you know that he loves you? If you any exposure to this site, you should know that. He has (had) a fascination with Civ3, and is quite diligent at pointing out the uses of foul language on this site. He likes the Minnesota Gophers (whatever the hell that is) and is a valuable source for interesting links. Did I mention he loves you?

greenrd is a transhumanist socialist, and perhaps one of the most high-profile k5ers. She's quite outspoken on socialist political issues and is quite gullible (or trolling as some have suggested). Regardless, she is an interesting source for ideas and always appreciated as a source of controversy, even when it's inflammatory. greenrd has written a lot of material on k5 in both the diaries and the stories.

mentots is one of the k5ers that claims to be female, and she probably is. She's blond, and lives in the same town as mrgoat. Sometimes she makes special appearances on the goatcam, which certainly spices things up. Her most unique trait is the massive flood of =) smilies littered throughout her diaries and comments, it's quite endearing. Her political views are a bit wacky though.

trhurler hates you. Actually, I don't think he does, but he likes to think so. He is quite interested in political issues, and is the best-spoken libertarian-ish writer that k5 calls their own. However he is quite outspoken on certain tech issues as well. His best known trait is to present a strong argument and rigorously defend it at great length. His comment threads are consistently among the best on this site. He lives in St. Louis and is apparently quite well-adjusted.

Bob Abooey. Funny, so very funny. Burnout or not, please come back to us Bob.

Communista is another one of the rare k5 residents reputed to be female. She lives in Ohio somewhere I think, and works doing hell desk support. She hangs with the members of the #kuro5hin cesspool. One of her best-known traits is to tantalize horny k5 boys with her provocative sex polls.

Carnage4Life is a Microsoft employee, and is well-versed in technological issues. On the rare occasions he speaks out on political issues, he does so with great skill. And he is a great source for providing an alternative perspective to the Linux / Open Source vs. pro-Microsoft debates. We are lucky to have him on our site, this is for certain.

TheophileEscargot would be best identified for his love of books, specifically science fiction novels. He's another one of those dirty English folks, but he seems to be generally more sober than most of the other folks from across the puddle. Although I hear that he has a leather fetish.

MattOly is one of the few k5ers I've met it person, and I can verify that he's a cool guy. He lives in Olympia WA and helps run the website Satanosphere. When he's not whoring his website on k5, he's... well... well, he's probably doing something else. Also, he's got a hot girlfriend.

webwench is another k5 female that has the boys following her every move. And she's actually interesting too, not just dangling a piece of cheese for them to drool over. Her stories describing her dating life are both fascinating and well-told -- if you don't follow her adventures you probably should.

Cal Bunny, or whatever he's called this week, is a k5er that I have to admit is a valuable contributor to the kuro5hin experience. Once known for simply rating up every comment he sees, lately he has started to write interesting commentary, and is one of the few to actually defend the fundamentalist Christian perspective.

tombuck is the nastiest bugger on this whole website. The lovable Brit is a venerable anger machine, often pointing out the obvious in a eloquently evil fashion. However, he is a valuable member of the team, pointing out in dramatic fashion when the whining and flirting get too excessive. He's also 134th in line for the British throne. A workaholic, I think he is secretly a nice guy at heart.

evilpckls is the reigning queen of the k5 soap opera, though others are begging to take the crown away at any moment dare she slip up for a second. She's a botany student living in Minnesota and has just gone through an all-too-public breakup with her boyfriend. She also has the record for the shortest lasting webcam in the history of k5.

persimmon is another resident of California. She posts frequently on a variety of topics, from getting her driver's license to her boyfriend Wyvern. She writes neat poetry and somehow manages to keep the attention of the boy's crowd. :P

wiredog is a politically conservative contributor to k5 who resides in Virginia. He is a great source of political MLPs both in the diaries and the stories. He is perhaps best known for his involvement in the latest k5 soap opera. Contrary to what you might think, his nick does not originate from him reading the AP wires -- instead it's from his days in the US military.

bunny vomit is one of the regular drunken diary writers on kuro5hin, and has a close relationship with his ex-girlfriend. He lives in Cleveland and is known to post... er... interesting stuff on slashdot. On kuro5hin, he is best known for his *smoochies* that make the more homophobic k5ers queasy.

theantix is the coolest person on k5. He lives in Portugal with his 5 cats, and is strangely attracted to bisexual women (the real ones, not the pornographic ones). Sometimes he contributes to scoop, but that takes away from his time trolling the diary section of k5. His claim to fame is getting the word "goatfucker" on the front page of kuro5hin in the biggest circle jerk this site has ever seen.

Lost In A Dream is obsessed with transformers. Yes, the children's toys. He's been involved with some sort of complicated saga with his previous nickname, Faulty Dreamer. He's married and is involved with technical discussions from time to time.

codemonkey_uk recently had a baby! Well, actually flowergrrl gets a lot of credit for that, but that's missing the point. As you might guess from the nick, codemonkey_uk hails from the United Kingdom, and well.. is a codemonkey. His postings are usually of a technical nature or relating to his newborn son. We're all rooting for them.

ana is a writer, usually of the erotic fiction genre (so far as I know, anyhow). She is a much-loved contributor to this site and can be counted on for both interesting diaries and great comments. Rumor has it that she's trhurler's girlfriend in real life.

ucblockhead is c++ coder and regular k5 writer. Mr. Khead is yet another Californian, and has written a nifty little plugin utility for Winamp that improves on the random function provided by default. He posts quite a bit on technical programming issues, and actually knows what he's talking about.

Electric Angst is k5's resident liberal eclectic pagan. He's also a strident defender of the MacOS faith. Residing in a little town in Wisconsin, EA is known to have extended discussions with conservative and libertarian posters on various political issues. Always an entertaining read, he helps make k5 what it is.

Yanna is an ex-pat currently residing in Holland. She is friendly and personable, and always provides an interesting European perspective on things. She enjoys skiing, and actually got beaten up for being a foreigner once in the not-too distant past.

Streetlawyer is another resident hailing from the land of adequacy. Well-spoken and controversial, he is always a source of good discussion. His long threads with trhurler are probably the most valuable thing that k5 can cling to. Besides adequacy, streetlawyer has been known to frequent slashdot in the past, and frequents both the diary and story section of k5 with great eloquance.

Captain_Tenille lives in Olympia WA with three giant cats and several fish tanks (with fish, even). He's known to party hard, and in his spare time runs the website Satanosphere with MattOly. His best-known trait is the "Your Momma" jokes traded with extreme frequency.

Fluffy Grue is another k5er residing in the burning desert that is Las Cruces, NM. Fluffy has gender issues and was the origination of the phrase "oops, wrong account". Right now the grue has been devoting a lot of time to the Eaveston project (a neat comic). Besides that, fluffy is a talented computer scientist and teaches at NMSU.

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Who You Are | 258 comments (232 topical, 26 editorial, 1 hidden)
How to Remove Theantix and Install Windows [n/t] (4.54 / 11) (#2)
by tps12 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 03:59:48 PM EST



Blu Ice (2.00 / 3) (#115)
by BLU ICE on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:49:52 AM EST

Is 16, single, and likes puters. Blu Ice's real name is Mike and he lives in the putrid shithole of Yakima, Wa.

As an added bonus, he is not overweight and athletic.

If you like Intel, Blu Ice will kick your ass. Blu Ice only likes AMD and referring to himself in the third person.

In his spare time Blu Ice jogs and plays UT and Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Blu Ice is going to the community college next year so he can graduate a year early and leave the shithole that is Yakima.

Blu Ice enjoys long walks on the beach, rainy days, watching old movies, and other shit that you see in personal ads.

"Is the quality of this cocaine satisfactory, Mr. Delorean?"
"As good as gold."

-- I am become Troll, destroyer of threads.
It's like an encyclopedia...sorta: Everything2

[ Parent ]

!(overweight && athletic) (5.00 / 3) (#129)
by fluffy grue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:36:24 AM EST

So what you're saying is that you're underweight and/or a lazy ass?

BOOLEAN LOGIC: 1. YOU: 0. *BURN*
--
(witty quote goes here)

Listen to Music | Read a Co
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Parent ]

Typo (none / 0) (#221)
by BLU ICE on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:40:44 PM EST

I immediately saw that after I posted it. I am athletic and overweight.

"Is the quality of this cocaine satisfactory, Mr. Delorean?"
"As good as gold."

-- I am become Troll, destroyer of threads.
It's like an encyclopedia...sorta: Everything2

[ Parent ]

Damn! (none / 0) (#222)
by BLU ICE on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:41:05 PM EST


"Is the quality of this cocaine satisfactory, Mr. Delorean?"
"As good as gold."

-- I am become Troll, destroyer of threads.
It's like an encyclopedia...sorta: Everything2

[ Parent ]

Holy Shit! (4.00 / 2) (#188)
by Captain_Tenille on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:49:54 PM EST

You live in YAKIMA!!!! I feel so sorry for you. I used to live in Ellensburg, many years ago, but I got over to the other side of the mountains.

Get out of there! Get out of there if the bears kill you!!!
----
/* You are not expected to understand this. */

Man Vs. Nature: The Road to Victory!
[ Parent ]

Cem (4.66 / 3) (#6)
by psychologist on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:13:02 PM EST

Cem is an elderly man that lives in Hamburg, Germany. He is half-turkish, and half-swede, so I haven't the faintest what he is doing in Germany.

He is a native German speaker, and is discontent with his life.

What do you consider "elderly"? (4.00 / 1) (#8)
by cem on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:14:14 PM EST

;) ...


Young Tarzan: I'll be the best ape ever!
[ Parent ]
> 25 [n/t] (4.50 / 4) (#10)
by psychologist on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:16:34 PM EST



[ Parent ]
Crap (4.50 / 2) (#128)
by fluffy grue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:34:07 AM EST

So in two weeks I'll be pen-elderly?
--
(witty quote goes here)

Listen to Music | Read a Co
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Parent ]

Nice. (4.00 / 3) (#9)
by MattOly on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:15:53 PM EST

However, I am very content with his wife.

====
A final note to...the Republican party. You do not want to get into a fight with David Letterman. ...He's simply more believable than you are.
[ Parent ]

Cem is a LIAR! (1.50 / 2) (#151)
by psychologist on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:59:38 AM EST

I would put my head on a chopping block if cem is any of these things. Cem is trying to put us on the wrong track by giving away this supposedly personal information.

I suspect that cem has a hidden agenda.

[ Parent ]

... huh? (3.00 / 1) (#159)
by cem on Wed May 29, 2002 at 08:29:21 AM EST

... something wrong with you?


Young Tarzan: I'll be the best ape ever!
[ Parent ]
Ahem. (4.66 / 6) (#7)
by MattOly on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:13:38 PM EST

MattOly is one of the few k5ers I've met it personal, and I can verify that he's a cool guy. He lives in Olympia WA and helps run the website Satanosphere. When he's not whoring his website on k5, he's... well... well, he's probably doing something else. Also, he's got a hot girlfriend.

When I'm not whoring my website on K5, I'm whoring it somewhere else. And yes, my girlfriend is hot, and no, you can't "join in" as you put it when you were here.

You Socialist Canadian's think you can share EVERYTHING?

====
A final note to...the Republican party. You do not want to get into a fight with David Letterman. ...He's simply more believable than you are.

Your girflriend's a nerd? (nt) (4.00 / 2) (#36)
by MotorMachineMercenary on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:42:34 PM EST



[ Parent ]
yes. (4.66 / 3) (#49)
by MattOly on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:42:37 PM EST

Yes she is. A Java programmer, no less. And she reads more comics and sci-fi than I do. And she knows (gasp!) CowboyNeal!

====
A final note to...the Republican party. You do not want to get into a fight with David Letterman. ...He's simply more believable than you are.
[ Parent ]

Hmmm... (4.50 / 2) (#68)
by greenrd on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:56:45 PM EST

I wonder... If we played "5 degrees of rusty" on here, how many people would be included?


"Capitalism is the absurd belief that the worst of men, for the worst of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all." -- John Maynard Keynes
[ Parent ]

6 degrees, not 5 [nt] (3.00 / 1) (#100)
by kuran42 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:56:17 PM EST



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kuran42? genius? Nary a difference betwixt the two. -- Defect
[ Parent ]
6 too easy (3.00 / 1) (#110)
by TON on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:09:27 AM EST

The world seems to keep on getting smaller. 5 degrees should be enough.

"First, I am born. Then, the trouble begins." -- Schizopolis

Ted


[ Parent ]

How's that work? (4.00 / 1) (#236)
by rusty on Thu May 30, 2002 at 01:09:32 PM EST

Obviously, everyone knows who I am. Would the requirement be people who have met in person? Like, I've met X, and X has met Y, and Y went out drinking with Z, therefore me and spiralx have 3 degrees of separation? (Of course this assumes that if you've been out drinking, you've met spiralx ;-))

So who have I met here. Off the top of my head, Defect, ragabr, justinfinity, ucblockhead, Arkady, Inoshiro, Driph, hurstdog, kmself, rob, flixchick, and probably some more that I'm forgetting right now. Not all that many people though, really.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

Sounds like the perfect gf (3.00 / 1) (#116)
by BLU ICE on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:53:48 AM EST

Hot and techy. Usualy the hot ones are really stupid and ditzy.

"Is the quality of this cocaine satisfactory, Mr. Delorean?"
"As good as gold."

-- I am become Troll, destroyer of threads.
It's like an encyclopedia...sorta: Everything2

[ Parent ]

No, they are not. (none / 0) (#155)
by tekue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:27:22 AM EST

The truth is that you probably don't ever get lucky with hot chicks, so you prefer saying it's because they're stupid. Actually, most intelligent women I know are at least fairly good-looking. This on the other hand may mean that I'm just choosing to interact with women that are hot and intelligent, but if I do, that's great too :)
--
Humanity has advanced, when it has advanced, not because it has been sober, responsible, and cautious, but because it has been playful, rebellious, and immature. --Tom Robbins
[ Parent ]
I can back him up on this. (4.00 / 2) (#94)
by Captain_Tenille on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:17:26 PM EST

It's really true. I don't think she's as hot as my gf, but she's a geek and she's pretty hot.
----
/* You are not expected to understand this. */

Man Vs. Nature: The Road to Victory!
[ Parent ]

Defect... (4.57 / 7) (#11)
by ragabr on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:25:46 PM EST

is a manwhore powermongering op in #k5.

Many of you will remember his constant whining about having eleventy-billion women thirsting after his throbbing... not sure what to put after "throbbing" because he always backed out at the last moment.

Currently retired from the life of a "playa", Defect spends his time using his current girlfriend's employee discount at Best Buy. His savings account cried during the recent price-war between Sony and Microsoft.

Overall a good guy, though a bit of an alcoholic, his taste in music ranges from fantastic to downright horrible. Oh, and he has a pretty tattoo.

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And my tongue would be made of chocolate. Mmmmm. Chocolate.
-rusty
AmberEyes... (3.66 / 6) (#12)
by AmberEyes on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:27:14 PM EST

...never makes it on lists. ;)

-AmberEyes


"But you [AmberEyes] have never admitted defeat your entire life, so why should you start now. It seems the only perfect human being since Jesus Christ himself is in our presence." -my Uncle Dean
Join the club (4.00 / 1) (#19)
by kuran42 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:48:04 PM EST

30,000+ members and going strong.

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kuran42? genius? Nary a difference betwixt the two. -- Defect
[ Parent ]
heh (4.50 / 2) (#23)
by MattOly on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:01:43 PM EST

You would both be on my list, but then, I'm not Canadian...

====
A final note to...the Republican party. You do not want to get into a fight with David Letterman. ...He's simply more believable than you are.
[ Parent ]

Off by one. (4.57 / 7) (#14)
by mrgoat on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:31:28 PM EST

Lost in a Dream, is k5's foremost transformer fan. He lives somewhere in california, where he likes to eat small children. His favorite color is clear, and he sometimes wears boxer shorts on his head. Once, he actually visited the strange place known only as "the outdoors". His comments range from the sublimely unintelligable, to the purely pornographic. He is still a virgin, despite managing to gather 55 gallons of goat semen, which he had to dispose of in the woods before the authorities came.

"I'm having sex right now?" - Joh3n
--Top Hat--

Would you be refering to..... (4.00 / 1) (#173)
by rdskutter on Wed May 29, 2002 at 10:26:46 AM EST

This Trollaxor story?


If you're a jock, inflict some pain / If you're a nerd then use your brain - DAPHNE AND CELESTE
[ Parent ]

Of course. (nt) (none / 0) (#187)
by mrgoat on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:49:09 PM EST


"I'm having sex right now?" - Joh3n
--Top Hat--
[ Parent ]

Heh. (4.00 / 2) (#217)
by kwsNI on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:06:45 PM EST

He is still a virgin, despite managing to gather 55 gallons of goat semen
I'm sure you'd be in on that, huh?
he had to dispose of in the woods before the authorities came.
Why, did he run out of room? *rimshot*

kwsNI
[ Parent ]
My goodness! (4.54 / 11) (#16)
by Rocky on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:36:49 PM EST

I don't think I've seen such a self-congradulating masturbatory piece-o'-crap like this since the Voyager Finale.

Christ.

If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?
- Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

You're just mad (4.60 / 5) (#32)
by jmzero on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:29:20 PM EST

Cause you weren't on the list.

Wait.  I'm not on there either.

I'm mad too.
.
"Let's not stir that bag of worms." - my lovely wife
[ Parent ]

I'd have to say mutual masturbation... (3.00 / 1) (#230)
by needless on Thu May 30, 2002 at 03:50:33 AM EST

or at least heavy petting...

[ Parent ]
tombuck. (4.20 / 5) (#17)
by /dev/trash on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:43:29 PM EST

update!
I heard that the 5th earl of cambria kicked the bucket.  
133rd in line now.

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Updated 02/20/2004
New Site
w00h00!!! (none / 0) (#149)
by tombuck on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:26:13 AM EST


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Give me yer cash!
[ Parent ]

greenrd is a *she*? (4.60 / 5) (#20)
by kuran42 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 04:48:20 PM EST

/me boggles.

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kuran42? genius? Nary a difference betwixt the two. -- Defect
Kuran. (4.33 / 3) (#59)
by kwsNI on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:19:04 PM EST

I thought the mazes on the happy meal boxes at McDonalds boggled you.

kwsNI
[ Parent ]
not according to the user page (5.00 / 3) (#88)
by jacoplane on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:49:52 PM EST

It says:

Robin is a vegan transhumanist socialist. (Or is he?)

Academically, he's a 2nd-year Computing PhD student, studying aspect-oriented programming and customisable schema evolution in object-oriented databases. (And British, hence the spelling)

[ Parent ]

No (4.00 / 2) (#89)
by Delirium on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:49:52 PM EST

greenrd is a he.

[ Parent ]
Not quite (4.40 / 5) (#22)
by fluffy grue on Tue May 28, 2002 at 05:07:21 PM EST

  • You keep misspelling my username
  • I'm a grad student at the NMSU CS department, which means that I sometimes lecture as part of a TAship or whatever
Other than that, thanks. :)
--
(witty quote goes here)

[ Listen to Music | Read a Comic |

Also... (4.00 / 1) (#27)
by fluffy grue on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:11:04 PM EST

I've been here much longer than kwsNI. It's kwsNI who is "also in Las Cruces," not me. :D
--
(witty quote goes here)

[ Listen to Music | Read a Comic ]
[ Parent ]

Well... (3.00 / 1) (#71)
by theantix on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:01:04 PM EST

I linked directly to your cool art project, which I did for barely anybody else...

Plus, I wrote the whole damn article while suffering from a high fever.  So really it's amazing that I typed anything at all.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]

I see (4.33 / 3) (#78)
by fluffy grue on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:18:06 PM EST

That explains why you wrote it at all. :D
--
(witty quote goes here)

Listen to Music | Read a Co
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Parent ]

Now on K5: Another story about K5! (4.62 / 16) (#25)
by quasipalm on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:10:33 PM EST

Talk about pandering to the audience. I keep on seeing stories of the "We're so special let's write another article about ourselves!" sort. I come here to read and discuss smart people's opinions. To socialize, I go out. To watch people pat themselves on the back, I watch the Oscars.

(hi)
pandering (5.00 / 12) (#29)
by ucblockhead on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:13:34 PM EST

That's what I thought as I started reading it, but then I got to my name and realized that I had to give it +1,FP.
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This is k5. We're all tools - duxup
[ Parent ]
Yup (4.00 / 2) (#33)
by quasipalm on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:31:35 PM EST

Of course, anyone included couldn't vote -1; I wouldn't expect you to. :-)

(hi)
[ Parent ]
Mr. Jones and me (4.00 / 1) (#30)
by Swashbuckler on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:22:15 PM EST

"when i look at the television i want to see me staring right back at me..."

ps i voted for it




*Note* - this comment contains no inside K5 humour because inside K5 humour is only for/by K5-wankers. Media does not = "community."
[ Parent ]
wait a minute... (4.00 / 4) (#26)
by cthulhain on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:10:43 PM EST

greenrd is a female?

--
nothing in his brain except a ruined echo of the sky.

no (3.00 / 1) (#87)
by Delirium on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:49:35 PM EST

He is not.

[ Parent ]
Forgot a few... (4.66 / 3) (#31)
by br284 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:25:28 PM EST

What about me0w, who posted the skinned knee series one her website, eLudddite, and tumeric?

Of course I cannot remember a thing about any of these people, other than they should be listed for some reason or another that I fail to remember...

Off to dinner.

-Chris

hmm (4.00 / 2) (#35)
by Work on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:41:18 PM EST

I thought electric angst lived here in austin?

Also, isnt carnage's dad like the king of nigeria or something? That's gotta be noteworthy

correction, president (3.33 / 3) (#106)
by strlen on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:51:24 AM EST

yes, carnage's dad is one of the first democratic rulers of nigeria after more than a decade of miliatary rule. the last name is obasanjo. which is probably why when carnage speaks about politics he knows what the hell he's talking about.

--
[T]he strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone. - Henrik Ibsen.
[ Parent ]
Yeah, right, knows. (5.00 / 1) (#158)
by tekue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 08:10:43 AM EST

My mom is an accountant and my father runs a travel-boat business. You want to guess how much I know about accounting and running a business?

The sole fact that your parent does something doesn't mean it has any impact on you. How do you know if Carnage and his father even talk about politics? How do you know his father wants (and is able) to talk about politics all the time?

I would agree that living in a political surrounding may get you more interested in politics, but it doesn't guarantee knowing what one's talking about. I've met a couple of half-assed politicians and their dumbass children, and they mostly didn't know what the hell they were talking about, including politics.

Notice I'm talking about half-assed politicians, not the real ones. I don't know Mr. Obasanjo's background nor current moves, but I assume he's a good politician, as being the first democratic ruler of any sort is a notable achievement. I'm also not saying that Carnage doesn't know what he's talking about (frankly, I don't even remember his views), but let's not jump onto an assumption, that being exposed to something automagicly makes you more of an expert in it.
--
Humanity has advanced, when it has advanced, not because it has been sober, responsible, and cautious, but because it has been playful, rebellious, and immature. --Tom Robbins
[ Parent ]

Yeah... (3.50 / 2) (#177)
by Rocky on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:32:25 AM EST

..his dad keeps on sending me e-mails on how he's got some surplus money that he needs laundering, and about how it would be so helpful if I could send him an account number...

If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?
- Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
[ Parent ]
I have a feeling it was a troll... (3.00 / 1) (#196)
by Electric Angst on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:51:23 PM EST

I am in Austin. I have a feeling there was a little bit of misinformation in several of those entries...
--
"Hell, at least [Mailbox Pipebombing suspect Lucas Helder's] argument makes sense, which is more than I can say for the vast majority of people." - [ Parent ]
Masturbation is good for you (4.66 / 6) (#37)
by jabber on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:44:54 PM EST

Ok everyone, give one another a helping hand. Let's all get it out of our system in a localized, well-contained story, instead of a constant dribble of unimpressive ejaculatory 'Meta' articles. It's cleansing, it's envigorating, it's life-affirming..

Spew on!

And ya missed me, ya bastich! I guess I need to pick a personality and stick with it.. Yes, yes, a reputation, even on 'just a web-site' could be fun.

+1FP. Usually I deplore circle-jerks, but something about this one just rubs me the right way.

[TINK5C] |"Is K5 my kapusta intellectual teddy bear?"| "Yes"

okay (4.85 / 7) (#39)
by John Milton on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:51:14 PM EST

ti dave is one of those diary dwellers who seem to disappear from time to time. Little is known about him except that he is nice and disagrees with me on abortion. I always associate him with honest patriotism.

sleepyhel has the dubious honor of being pronounced officially cool by yours truly. Her homepage has a glorious collection of duckies, and her server is named eeyore. She sounds cute, but she's English, and they all have bad teeth.

alprazolam is one of the cool guys who was posting here when I first started posting myself. He was missing for a while, but he's back now. He's cynical but more honest than most k5ers

psctsh is another cool guy who is mia.


"When we consider that woman are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should Treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit." -Elizabeth Cady Stanton


ti_dave (4.33 / 3) (#117)
by jugglhed on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:05:28 AM EST

I think he is, or was, a police officer.

I really don't know any more than that, though, and could be wrong, but seem to recall a comment about him dealing w/ people he'd pulled over.

[ Parent ]

I think he was in the army (3.00 / 1) (#120)
by John Milton on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:14:40 AM EST

He mentioned being in Haiti one time. That's how he got his nickname. Little Dave.


"When we consider that woman are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should Treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit." -Elizabeth Cady Stanton


[ Parent ]
I think you are right (4.66 / 3) (#137)
by Cal Bunny on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:17:57 AM EST

something about him getting confessions during interogation

^cb^
[ Parent ]
Can you say "Inoshiro"? (4.75 / 8) (#40)
by Skippy on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:51:17 PM EST

How could you leave out Inoshiro? Security geek, founding member, and formerly the worlds second most popular poll option?


# I am now finished talking out my ass about things that I am not qualified to discuss. #

You write it (4.00 / 4) (#64)
by theantix on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:32:56 PM EST

Did you miss the part where I was calling for requests?  Because I can only know so many people on this site (and you have to admit, it's a lot).  I don't know much about Ino, though I hear he's pretty cool.  The point however, is that you should write about him, which is the idea behind the article anyhow.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]
Founding member? (3.00 / 2) (#123)
by fluffy grue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:30:05 AM EST

Heh, I've been here longer than he has. :D
--
(witty quote goes here)

Listen to Music | Read a Co
[
Parent ]

Not according to UIDs... (4.66 / 3) (#143)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:45:29 AM EST

fluffy grue : 306
Inoshiro : 83
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]
Oh (3.00 / 1) (#184)
by fluffy grue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:39:30 PM EST

Oops.
--
(witty quote goes here)

Listen to Music | Read a Co
[
Parent ]

Try another one :p (none / 0) (#199)
by John Milton on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:01:26 PM EST

Inoshiro : 83
Inoshiro : 11012
Inoshiro : 11015
Inoshiro : 11019
Inoshiro : 11020
Inoshiro : 11025
Inoshiro : 11026


"When we consider that woman are treated as property, it is degrading to women that we should Treat our children as property to be disposed of as we see fit." -Elizabeth Cady Stanton


[ Parent ]
Aw. Damn. (4.16 / 6) (#41)
by m0rzo on Tue May 28, 2002 at 06:52:32 PM EST

I'm disappointed that you ommited my name. Bastard.


My last sig was just plain offensive.

Abstention (4.84 / 13) (#43)
by johnny on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:10:12 PM EST

I think this kind of self-referential stuff is off-putting. It makes K5 sound like a clique instead of a welcoming community. (Of course it would have been less off-putting had johnny been mentioned among the luminaries). Having said as much, (and inasmuch as this story seems destined for posting) I might only add that eann is a thoughtful commentator with a great (and apt) sig not to mention a great recipe for kapusta; that iGrrrl is the most interesting person on K5; that spacejack provides lots of great links and is also our site's torchbearer for the greatest rockaroll band in the world (the greatest rockaroll band in the world) the Rolling Stones (the Rolling Stones). And I could name others, but am lazy.

Also, as I am one of the resident K5 professional nostaligists, (and also as we are in the USA just one day out of Memorial Day) it is interesting to contemplate those whose UIDs we no longer see no more, as they've move off into other cyberwaters, K5 in their memories, perhaps. . .

yr frn,
jrs
Get your free download of prizewinning novels Acts of the Apostles and Cheap Complex Devices.

Pah! (4.50 / 2) (#50)
by eann on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:42:40 PM EST

Me? No. I used to actively participate around here. Now I mostly sit and watch. Many of the stories are interesting, but I rarely comment any more. Mostly I live vicariously through other people's diaries, because I don't have to form opinions there. Once in a while I pop in with a snide comment, of course. Even rarer, I'll post some longwinded diary that no one but you wants to read.

Plus, like much of K5, I'm jobhunting. My wife scowls if she sees me goofing off online too long at home.


Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. —MLK

$email =~ s/0/o/; # The K5 cabal is out to get you.


[ Parent ]
hey (4.33 / 3) (#61)
by ana on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:24:45 PM EST

I agree iGrrrl is the most interesting person on K5. And hey, you can be trhurler's girlfriend if you want...

;-)

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

not on your life, ana (4.00 / 2) (#67)
by johnny on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:54:16 PM EST

I believe that thruler is partial to thongs, by the way.

yr frn,
jrs
Get your free download of prizewinning novels Acts of the Apostles and Cheap Complex Devices.
[ Parent ]
thongs? (4.75 / 4) (#74)
by ana on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:08:23 PM EST

I wouldn't know.

For that matter, how would you know?

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

Welcome community? (5.00 / 4) (#83)
by kwsNI on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:41:45 PM EST

Hey, we welcome just about anyone into our circle-jerk. It doesn't change that a big part of K5 (*cough* diaries) is a big clique and occasionally that even spills over into the stories section. K5 is a clique brought together not by similiar interests or beliefs or ages or ideals but by a love of discussion and a willingness to participate. Acceptance is based solely on attitude and persistance.

And theantix is a wanker for not remembering the infamous Johnny.

kwsNI
[ Parent ]

Who Gives A Crap Who You Are? (4.87 / 8) (#44)
by thelizman on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:10:28 PM EST

I abstained from voting on this article, even though my best impulse was to dumpt it. Why? Kuro5hin.org exists as a collaborative effort; a sort of democratic web log. By establishing personalities and the resultant cults of allegient followers and "dittoheads", you risk creating spheres of hegemony that threaten the free contributory nature of such a system.

On the other hand, the article was interesting to read, quite well written, and appealed to me. I could'nt justify dumping it when it had some very admirable qualities. Clearly, I'm torn between my editorial admiration, and my topical disdain. So, I did the next best thing and pulled a "none of the above" (it's not truly abstaining if you think about it: my selection is tallied).
--

"Our language is sufficiently clumsy enough to allow us to believe foolish things." - George Orwell
what k5 needs now (4.83 / 12) (#45)
by demi on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:15:27 PM EST

is a running list like this, or maybe even a "top 50" ranking, that will motivate more people to devote hours of their waking lives to this site every day.

A few arch-users would decide who is on the list, and to get on the list you would have to be on your best behavior and suck up to them constantly. And among the aspirant arch-users there would occasionally be real-life sword duels, and the top contestant would wield a magic sword guarded by the Rose Bride. Also, users could buy ratings and other favors using k5 currency (I'm thinking they should be called k$), which would have a spot exchange value for real dollars. Rusty would sell the k$ in lots on eBay, along with TU logins, and there would be a secondary exchange market for k$ and accounts among normal users too. Lastly, we could have a yearly convention at the local American Legion hall in Maine, where we would all stay up until late swapping stories of memorable trolls and flame-fests.



Monty Python said it best... (4.62 / 8) (#77)
by br284 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:16:39 PM EST

WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become king then?

ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, [angels sing] her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. [singing stops] That is why I am your king!

DENNIS: Listen -- strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

ARTHUR: Be quiet!

DENNIS: Well you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

ARTHUR: Shut up!

DENNIS: I mean, if I went around sayin' I was an empereror just because some moistened bink had lobbed a scimitar at me they'd put me away!

ARTHUR: Shut up! Will you shut up!

DENNIS: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system.

-Chris

[ Parent ]

no (3.00 / 1) (#86)
by Delirium on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:48:44 PM EST

K5 does not need such a list.

There is enough wanking in the diary section as it is without any encouragement.

[ Parent ]

more wanking never hurt anyone (4.60 / 5) (#92)
by demi on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:12:33 PM EST

just look at what's happened to fark.com or arstechnica, jerking off to themselves constantly has made them a stronger community. I think if k5 could become like a cross between everquest and a cam girl site it would be all the better.

[ Parent ]
I don't know (3.00 / 1) (#96)
by Delirium on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:32:35 PM EST

For a counter-example, look at what a mess somethingawful.com has become.

[ Parent ]
Obviously you've never had a scab there (4.33 / 3) (#125)
by fluffy grue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:30:43 AM EST

Or carpal tunnel. Either of those things can make wanking quite injurious!
--
(witty quote goes here)

Listen to Music | Read a Co
[
Parent ]

Don't you know ? (3.00 / 1) (#161)
by bob6 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 08:38:44 AM EST

Wanking causes deafness.

The few cited users will become even more popular and the others will be even more ignored. Wanking definitely causes deafness.

Cheers.
[ Parent ]
Come again? [n/t] (none / 0) (#176)
by Rocky on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:30:25 AM EST

Oy!

If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?
- Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
[ Parent ]
Sarcasm (none / 0) (#146)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:09:02 AM EST

You would be wise to note the sarcasm in demi's tone.
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]
trhurler's from St Louis?!?!? (2.50 / 2) (#46)
by buck on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:18:48 PM EST

Small world, isn't it?

---

-----
“You, on the other hand, just spew forth your mental phlegmwads all over the place and don't have the goddamned courtesy to throw us a tissue afterwards.” -- kitten

I moved to L.A. from St. Louis (none / 0) (#194)
by broken77 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:16:24 PM EST

Two years ago. I lived in STL for 2 years, after graduating from MU in Columbia. As for trhurler... He reminds me so much of a friend of mine from back home that I've known since I was a freshman in high school. This guy ended up moving to STL after graduating college (like me). I wonder... Nah, don't think so. This other guy didn't spend so much time on the internet :-) But besides that, they are so similar it's freaky. Both very knowledgeable and smart, yet incredibly warped and twisted at the same time. Oh, and both the most pompous and closed-minded people I think I've ever run across. And both in serious need of some valuum. But yes, we were still good friends. I just tried not to talk about things with him that got him excitable, because he would then become completely irrational and just start yelling, thinking that there is zero percent chance that he's wrong and every who disagrees with him must be an idiot. But of course, one of the biggest flaws he has, and will never realize, is the inability to conduct self-analysis (being able to look at yourself from an outside perspective to correct undesirable character traits).

Wait a sec, I lost my train of thought... Was was the whole point to this comment? ;-)

I'm starting to doubt all this happy propaganda about Islam being a religion of peace. Heck, it's just as bad as Christianity. -- Dphitz
[ Parent ]

Heh (none / 0) (#203)
by trhurler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:31:54 PM EST

Self analysis is one of only three things I'm better at than most people. It has been a great many years since I behaved the way you're describing, but admittedly, I once did. As for moving here, I've lived here all my life, except for a five year stint in the armpit of the universe(aka Rolla, Missouri.) The trick you're missing is simple: my behavior on kuro5hin is adapted to kuro5hin, and my behavior in person - is adapted to that environment.

There are people who disagree with me almost completely whose views I give a great deal of weight. It just so happens that they are an entirely different crowd than the majority of k5ers. If you're 18 and can't understand why the whole world doesn't vote for the Green party, or for any other given party for that matter, then very clearly your opinions don't matter much, and you can substitute almost any age within 15 years of that one depending on peoples' personal differences in intellectual development.

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
How old are you? (none / 0) (#207)
by broken77 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:44:45 PM EST

I've spent some time in Rolla at the beer drinking fest...  err, I mean, St. Patrick's Day festivals.  We've probably crossed paths  ;-)  I'm 27.  And no, I'm not trying to start an online relationship with you, just curious  :-)

P.S.  I appreciate your response.  You can be very well-tempered when you choose...

As for your comments about party-line voting, how does that differ from your beliefs in the Libertarian Religion?  I think it's the same thing, different party.

I'm starting to doubt all this happy propaganda about Islam being a religion of peace. Heck, it's just as bad as Christianity. -- Dphitz
[ Parent ]

Answers (none / 0) (#209)
by trhurler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:49:32 PM EST

I'm 26. I was in Rolla from fall '94 to spring '99, but I didn't really do much St. Pats stuff; even though I was a raging drunk for several years of my Rolla experience, the truth is, I was a raging drunk who usually had some semblence of control and decency, which makes St. Pats rather unattractive.

I don't vote Libertarian except in a few cases; most of their candidates don't even believe in the platform, and of those who do, many simply fail to understand it. Harry Brown is a smart, well informed guy who sincerely means what he says, even if he's a bit pragmatic for my tastes; I can vote for a guy like that, but look at their average candidate, and he's just some wankstain who can't get on a major party ticket and chose the next best thing. My political ideas are not well represented by any party that I'm aware of, in the US or elsewhere.

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
Political ideas (none / 0) (#210)
by broken77 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:53:07 PM EST

My political ideas are not well represented by any party that I'm aware of, in the US or elsewhere.
I find that curious... If you have a certain comment you've posted, or thread, or story I could read on K5 that expounds on this, I'd like to read it. I don't expect you to hash out a trhurler manifesto for me just so I can understand your ideas more...

I'm starting to doubt all this happy propaganda about Islam being a religion of peace. Heck, it's just as bad as Christianity. -- Dphitz
[ Parent ]

Your ideas intrigue me (5.00 / 2) (#211)
by MisterQueue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:56:27 PM EST

and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

-Q

Diary Lush

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"Don't you dare reply to this with one of your discombobulating retorts" -coillte
[ Parent ]

Heh (5.00 / 2) (#213)
by trhurler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:01:15 PM EST

If you can tell me where the hell that came from, I'll buy you one of those damned pansy drinks you drink next time you're around.

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
Duh (5.00 / 3) (#216)
by MisterQueue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:41:19 PM EST

the simpsons... Homer's reply to bart when bart mentions "trust is a waste of time, and what's all this crap I've been hearing about sharing." Has that been bugging you? :P

-Q

Diary Lush

-------
"Don't you dare reply to this with one of your discombobulating retorts" -coillte
[ Parent ]

I second the idea [n/t] (none / 0) (#212)
by theantix on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:59:03 PM EST



--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]
Hmm (5.00 / 1) (#214)
by trhurler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:10:38 PM EST

Well, if you take the theoretical parts of Ayn Rand's philosophy(ignore most of her practical applications, which are questionable, her views on sex, which are absurd, and her views on intellectual property, which have absolutely no connection to her theoretical philosophy whatsoever,) add in some Susan Haack justification theory to beef up the epistemology, and then add the results of exposure to a wide array of other liberty-oriented people from a variety of fields(Rand's former friend Nathanial Branden in psychology, the Austrian school and similar in economics, etc), strip away the cult of personality crap that accumulates around such people, and apply the same principle of charity to all this that you would expect applied to any other body of ideas(oddly, academic philosophers one and all refuse to do this, in a shocking show of pigheadedness, unprofessionalism, and self-aggrandizement,) you'll have some notion. My ideas are woven through what I write, or at least, through the more discussion and less antagonism focused parts of it, but I don't think there's any one good summary here or there.

Be really careful about the Rand part though; as much as it pains me to see it, the cult aspect cannot be denied. It truly is best to absorb her ideas alone, put them into context, and then look at what others have said, because between the cultists(who will call you the personification of evil for ever disagreeing with anything Rand ever said, as though she was some kind of infallible goddess,) and the cult haters(who will claim she never said a single good thing in her entire life,) most people have nothing productive or relevant to bring to this particular table.

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
Uh... (4.87 / 8) (#51)
by trhurler on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:51:30 PM EST

ana is a writer, usually of the erotic fiction genre (so far as I know, anyhow). She is a much-loved contributor to this site and can be counted on for both interesting diaries and great comments. Rumor has it that she's trhurler's girlfriend in real life.
Where the hell did that rumor come from? I've never met ana, and I neither know nor would venture to guess whether ana is a "she" in the sense that you and I would ordinarily use the term. We don't even live in the same part of the country. My girlfriend already thinks Wing Envy is trying to move in on her; the last thing I need is this crap:)

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

relax. (4.00 / 5) (#55)
by ana on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:11:31 PM EST

I don't believe it either.

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

heh (4.00 / 1) (#103)
by Anonymous 242 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 11:53:05 PM EST

I've always wondered who it was on the other end of the phone in that diary of yours.

[ Parent ]
Um, phone? (4.00 / 2) (#164)
by ana on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:07:28 AM EST

I don't think I've ever once mentioned a phone, except to say don't use your cellphone in public.

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

That's not what I heard... (4.00 / 2) (#58)
by theantix on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:18:35 PM EST

I guess you hear different rumors than I do.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]
HA! a.k.a.- This rumor must die......... (4.85 / 7) (#60)
by Wing Envy on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:23:34 PM EST

Ok, I admit. It was funny at first. Hell, I even one-upped your crazy accusations in an attempt to destroy your reputation, but you seem to be doing a fine job of it yourself, so I'll let it be.

However, in the meantime, these crazy fantasies of yours must die. I've never even met your girlfriend yet, and the implication that I'm lesbian, although admittedly I took a test the other day that said I was, in fact, 70% lesbian, hmmmmm...wait..well, that's beside the point. The point is, sir, you're an ass. I know where you live, or at least have a general idea and it's a small town so I will find you, and I will also be more than happy to meet with your girlfriend and inform her of these fantasies of yours. I don't think it will work in your favor, at least not from my standpoint.

So, when's the next K5 get-together anyway? You should bring her next time. *plotting evil scheme as we speak*


You don't get to steal all the deficiency. I want some to.
-mrgoat
[ Parent ]

thruler and ana (4.62 / 8) (#69)
by johnny on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:58:28 PM EST

sitting in a tree
kay eye ess ess eye eng gee
first comes love, then comes marriage
Then comes baby thruler in a baby carriage


yr frn,
jrs
Get your free download of prizewinning novels Acts of the Apostles and Cheap Complex Devices.
[ Parent ]
+1 creative fiction (3.00 / 1) (#75)
by ana on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:10:49 PM EST

in playground rhyme, no less. Too bad it doesn't scan.

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

DAMN IT! (4.37 / 8) (#52)
by gnovos on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:55:32 PM EST

If there is one thing I have ever asked for in life is just a little recognition from a group of people of little consequence to me, who I don't know and probably wounldn't get along with if I did.  

Is that too much to ask for?  

Why do I always get left out in these popularity contests?  Haven't I paid my dues?  Haven't I responded diligently to each and every troll, leading discussions down long, confusing paths with no resolution?  Haven't I posted long rambling stories to the queue with absolutly no social value and no actual content beyond demonstrations of my own strongly stated personal belief that I am always right?  Does that kind of effort and dedication count for nothing in this world?

Come on people, a little credit here!  A little recognition for my tireless efforts isn't too much to ask, now is it?

A Haiku: "fuck you fuck you fuck/you fuck you fuck you fuck you/fuck you fuck you snow" - JChen

ok (4.00 / 2) (#76)
by br284 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:11:26 PM EST

You would be on my list had I written it. Of course I have no idea who you are, but to make you feel better, I would add you to my list.

-Chris

[ Parent ]

That's all I ask. (nt) (4.00 / 2) (#79)
by gnovos on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:19:57 PM EST



A Haiku: "fuck you fuck you fuck/you fuck you fuck you fuck you/fuck you fuck you snow" - JChen
[ Parent ]
me (2.85 / 7) (#53)
by rasactive on Tue May 28, 2002 at 07:55:56 PM EST

Rasactive lives in Florida and likes long walks on the beach, horseback riding, and drinking coconut milk right out of the coconuts. He just subscribed to k5 and he's known for voting down Meta stories by TheAntix.

relax. (4.00 / 3) (#54)
by ana on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:08:52 PM EST

I don't believe it either.

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

mr goat and mentots live out side boston (3.33 / 3) (#56)
by nodsmasher on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:11:52 PM EST

i live out side boston, wierd

oh ya i probobly have the worst spelling on k5 and my diarys are usualy rantings about how much i hate my life or links to huge aim log chunks that are horibly boring in a tantalizingly voyeristic way
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most people don't realise just how funny cannibalism can actually be.
-Tatarigami
don't sell yourself short (4.80 / 5) (#70)
by puxud on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:00:42 PM EST

you may have the worst spelling in the world, not just on k5

i am not mrgoat
[ Parent ]

Modesty forbids (4.62 / 8) (#65)
by localroger on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:36:23 PM EST

...pointing out something as obvious as, well, you know.

I can haz blog!

LocalRoger (4.00 / 1) (#243)
by irksome on Thu May 30, 2002 at 10:18:11 PM EST

Author of perhaps the most widely popular series of stories ever posted to the front page of K5.  Other than the fact that LocalRoger wrote "A Casino Odyssey", I know nothing about him (her?)

-
I think I am, therefore I'm not.
[ Parent ]

About localroger (5.00 / 1) (#244)
by localroger on Thu May 30, 2002 at 10:59:41 PM EST

Well, in comments and stories I've revealed my sex (there is no female variant of "roger," that's a clue), my age, my birthplace and city of residence, my vocation, made enough coy references to the industry I work in that any of the folks I'm coyly hiding it from would be able to figure out who I am in an instant, and the edges of a distinctly weird (by most standards) religious and social philosophy.

I think at one point I even posted that my real name is the unbelievably anonymous Roger Williams, doubtless offspring of John Smith and Jane Doe. (Try searching the Web for me. I DARE you to try.)

Other than that, well, I guess I have neglected to post a MIME-encoded photograph of myself to the queue; that should be at last as funny as an ASCII-art cow, shouldn't it?

I can haz blog!
[ Parent ]

Hey, I tried (4.50 / 2) (#246)
by irksome on Fri May 31, 2002 at 01:32:08 AM EST

I really don't tend to notice if people post their location/etc.  All I remembered about you was that you wrote Casino Odyssey, and I loved reading it.  Isn't that enough?

-
I think I am, therefore I'm not.
[ Parent ]

I printed it out and handed it to friends. (none / 0) (#250)
by Jacques Chester on Mon Jun 03, 2002 at 07:25:27 AM EST

Not only was it a fascinating story, it was well-written. I kept hearing Edward Norton narrating it, Fight Club style.

It was a great read.

--
In a world where an Idea can get you killed, Thinking is the most dangerous act of all.
[ Parent ]

Florida, eh (3.50 / 4) (#66)
by DesiredUsername on Tue May 28, 2002 at 08:38:31 PM EST

I guess that explains why I haven't gotten any mail lately. I guess I'll have to hobble down to the post office and give those young'uns what fer.

Play 囲碁
whatever (4.70 / 10) (#72)
by dogwalker on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:03:17 PM EST

Let's see... 35 people on the list. 138 upvotes (at the moment.) Wow, that's over a hundred people who need a good hard slap across the face.

I guess an article like this could be vaguely entertaining or informative, but considering it described both streetlawyer and trhurler as "well-spoken," I have little faith in its accuracy regarding people I haven't read.


--
share and enjoy

I see your confusion (4.75 / 4) (#190)
by trhurler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:29:44 PM EST

You fail to differentiate between "well spoken" and "agreeable." A common mistake among people who value being agreeable more than they value being honest or correct:)

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
spare me. (4.00 / 2) (#223)
by dogwalker on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:43:39 PM EST

It has nothing to do with whether or not I find streetlawyer or you agreeable or disagreeable. If a movie critic calls Starship Troopers the best sci-fi movie ever, I don't have to agree with him, I just have to know that he thinks that when reading his other reviews. If someone sez streetlawyer is well-spoken, fine, that's one opinion, but when they go on to say that you're well-spoken, then who knows what to make of it? Either they're mistaken about one of you, or they're using some criterion that's broad enough to include both of you and my cat. Either way, I'm left with doubt as to the usefulness of the rest of the author's observations.
--
share and enjoy

[ Parent ]
So then... (4.00 / 2) (#224)
by trhurler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 08:14:06 PM EST

You are complaining that because streetlawyer and I are different, we cannot both be well spoken? If not, then perhaps you are not making yourself clear enough, as that's about all the "meaning" I can extract from this excrement you rather presumptively refer to as a "comment."

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
one more time, slowly. (5.00 / 3) (#225)
by dogwalker on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:13:22 PM EST

Well-spoken means writing clearly, intelligently, showing insight and flair.

Instead of what I would consider well-spokenness, you substitute crude insults, a lack of any glimmer of perspicacity, and underdeveloped arguments.

Streetlawyer substitutes pretentions of insight, references to academics, and assorted trollish blather.

One might be impressed by one of the two of your styles, and refer to it as well-spoken, and be forgiven. Calling them both well-spoken is just vague.

So what is meant? That either of you can string a few sentences without looking like a twelve-year-old or a semi-literate career convict? Congratulations.
--
share and enjoy

[ Parent ]

Heh (5.00 / 1) (#234)
by trhurler on Thu May 30, 2002 at 12:03:38 PM EST

I think I see your point, which namely is that you don't like either of us. Our arguments are at least as well supported as those anyone else spews on k5, because this isn't an academic journal. If you're looking for proof from on high, you might want to look somewhere else, because even journals don't contain it, so this place certainly won't. (Or are you a link idiot, who thinks that "supported" arguments have links, and others do not? Obviously what's on the web is true, after all...)

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
Grow up little boy (4.00 / 1) (#235)
by theantix on Thu May 30, 2002 at 12:28:02 PM EST

I have some interesting news for you.  Someone can be well-spoken without you having to agree with them.  I haven't ever seen you spar with trhurler or streetlawyer -- my guess is that that you wouldn't be able to stand your ground against either of them.

Your points are true: at times trhurler does insult people -- however he most often accompanies that with a valid criticism that explains why the insult was given.  And streetlawyer somes plays games with people, this is also true.  However, when he chooses to take up an argument he does so in superb form.

It takes maturity to admit that people you don't agree with can contruct well thought out arguments.  Both StreetLawyer and trhurler have distinct opinions and viewpoints that are intelligent, and they voice them on k5 with great eloquence.  I'm sorry if you can't see that simply because you don't like to hear what they say.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]

don't be stupid. (4.00 / 1) (#242)
by dogwalker on Thu May 30, 2002 at 08:51:35 PM EST

Your assumptions are incorrect. I give hurler a 1/5 for correctness, and a 3/5 for style. With fewer irrelevant tangents and unwarranted insults, I might be coaxed to put that up to 4/5. But as it is I would hardly refer to him as "well-spoken."

As for streetlawyer, I like a lot of the things he writes, and I imagine I agree with him a lot more often than I agree with th. I realize this is a little obtuse, but my original point was not that I dislike streetlawyer or trhurler. (I find them both pretty entertaining most of the time)

The original criticism was of the author of this crappy reflexive story. If the author said "Chinatown is one of the greatest movies ever," ok, we know where the author's coming from. If they then say "Sorority Babes at the Slimeball Bowl-o-Rama is one of the greatest movies ever," then wtf? There's nothing wrong with the second statement by itself, but taken with the first it implies a criterion for greatness that is rather difficult to grasp from those data points.

ps. re: my guess is that that you wouldn't be able to stand your ground against either of them, go read my comments and see for yourself. Of course, you're probably too immature to call anything you disagree with well-spoken.
--
share and enjoy

[ Parent ]

You==twit (4.00 / 1) (#245)
by theantix on Thu May 30, 2002 at 11:31:29 PM EST

'Of course, you're probably too immature to call anything you disagree with well-spoken.'

Fuckoff you twit.  You should know by my original post that I'm quite willing to accept alternate viewpoints as wellspoken.  Kafka is well-spoken.  Jesus was well-spoken.  Aristotle was well-spoken.  Ayn Rand was well-spoken.  Bill Clinton was well-spoken.  It's about the ability to convey an idea.  To present an argument and back it up.  Both streetlawyer and trurler can do the job quite well, methinks.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]

I think I have a new sig [nt] (3.00 / 1) (#248)
by TheophileEscargot on Fri May 31, 2002 at 06:39:49 AM EST


----
Support the nascent Mad Open Science movement... when we talk about "hundreds of eyeballs," we really mean it. Lagged2Death
[ Parent ]
missing (2.00 / 2) (#73)
by nodsmasher on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:06:51 PM EST

me of couse,
m0rzo, our favorite british guy who manages a rock group,
me0w, also with the 0's insted of o's she's great couse she rants about naked chicks in cars,
la princesa, wierd rants about not much but a girl (probobly) so thats note worthy
perdida, the frogoten girl from adequacy
infinitera, from my home town and probobly a cool guy any way
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Most people don't realise just how funny cannibalism can actually be.
-Tatarigami
Consider (2.50 / 2) (#90)
by theantix on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:59:39 PM EST

That I could only write so much (there's a lot in there as it is).  I wrote about the people that I pay attention to and could write a couple sentences about (except for perdida, who I really should have mentioned).  I couldn't write much about those people without doing some research so I left them out.  

However, I specifically requested for other people to add their own commentary.  As is, if you know about those people, you post about it.  

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]

Crap like this sometimes needs to be seen (2.66 / 3) (#82)
by seeS on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:36:30 PM EST

It makes some other sort of ok articles seem good! I also like feeding the trolls sometime and this is a bit different from my usual KDE-bashing.

You didn't mention me, which I'm happy about because the less you dementiods know about me the better.

Well, I guess there are a few non-dementiods on here other than me, I'm completely normal.
--
Where's a policeman when you need one to blame the World Wide Web?

hrmph (4.28 / 7) (#84)
by Delirium on Tue May 28, 2002 at 09:45:27 PM EST

I've been around longer and have more posts than 90% of the people in that list, but I don't get mentioned. =P

Maybe I should post 9 diaries a day.

Of course... (4.00 / 1) (#135)
by WhiteBandit on Wed May 29, 2002 at 03:38:06 AM EST

Not only that, but you recruit people too. If it wasn't for you surfing K5 at my house one day, I wouldn't be here. (Bet you're regretting it now buddy :P)

[ Parent ]
Well, I'd post my info, (4.00 / 3) (#93)
by Kasreyn on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:15:01 PM EST

except my uid is far too high to ever make your list. No member of the k5 1337 am I. Nor do I keep a diary anyway (well, not on k5).

I'm just surprised you didn't mention TINK5C.


-Kasreyn


"Extenuating circumstance to be mentioned on Judgement Day:
We never asked to be born in the first place."

R.I.P. Kurt. You will be missed.
You've been around longer than almost all of them (4.00 / 2) (#97)
by Delirium on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:38:56 PM EST

A few people in the list whose UIDs are higher than yours: TheophileEscargot, MisterQueue, MattOly, mrgoat, webwench, mentots, Cal Bunny, tombuck, evilpckls, bunny vomit, theantix, Yanna.

[ Parent ]
+1, I'm not mentioned (4.25 / 4) (#95)
by Anonymous 242 on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:27:21 PM EST

Whoopee!

Why would you be on the list? (4.33 / 3) (#124)
by Scrag on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:30:24 AM EST

You make too many insightful and well thought comments to make the list ;)

"I'm... responsible for... many atrocities" - rusty
[ Parent ]
no, he's too nice (none / 0) (#186)
by speek on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:47:44 PM EST

He's not an asshole like the rest. Not full of himself, and seems a decent, normal person (other than being devoutly religious, but I forgive that).

--
al queda is kicking themsleves for not knowing about the levees
[ Parent ]

an asshole like the rest (none / 0) (#189)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:54:46 PM EST

Thanks.

:(

What did I ever do to hurt you?
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]

If it makes you feel better . . . (none / 0) (#226)
by Anonymous 242 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:18:49 PM EST

I consider myself to be an asshole, just like you.

-l

[ Parent ]

One correction about me (4.75 / 4) (#99)
by theboz on Tue May 28, 2002 at 10:50:07 PM EST

I didn't actually meet my g/f on K5. She just comes here sometimes to read what I write and such. The internet is our primary form of communication right now though since she's in school a bit too far away right now.

Stuff.

To quote pulp fiction (4.80 / 20) (#101)
by stuartf on Tue May 28, 2002 at 11:34:58 PM EST

Well, lets not start sucking each others dicks just yet....

Of course you realize... (4.00 / 2) (#102)
by krait on Tue May 28, 2002 at 11:44:54 PM EST

that this is the best evidence for a k5 kabal yet ;-)



TINK5C (4.00 / 1) (#111)
by ocelot on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:16:41 AM EST

</delurk>

[ Parent ]
Nodnod. (5.00 / 1) (#130)
by pwhysall on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:45:54 AM EST

Even for those of us in it.
--
Peter
K5 Editors
I'm going to wager that the story keeps getting dumped because it is a steaming pile of badly formatted fool-meme.
CheeseBurgerBrown
[ Parent ]
self self self..... self... (4.60 / 10) (#104)
by mindsmasher on Tue May 28, 2002 at 11:58:13 PM EST

recognition...
popularity...
clique...
...

We're a community supposed to be open. But we're closing our world by creating a k5 elite club...

I mean, to learn, to socialize, to criticize the world we need to see the world...
Anyway...

MindSmasher
Journal Intime

I'm glad to see someone else understands this. (3.00 / 1) (#105)
by cetan on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:50:18 AM EST

It's refreshing to see that I'm not the only one that thinks this.
K5 is becoming, or has probably become a long time ago, a very elitist community.

===== cetan www.cetan.com =====
[ Parent ]
Owell... (4.00 / 1) (#113)
by Danse on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:45:08 AM EST

I just post when I have something to say. As long as I can do that, I really don't care how open/closed the community is.






An honest debate between Bush and Kerry
[ Parent ]
Bair (2.00 / 1) (#127)
by medham on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:33:54 AM EST

Wouldn't care for this sort of insular crap at all, even less than he did for Anthony Blunt.

The real 'medham' has userid 6831.
[ Parent ]

Last time I say this. (5.00 / 4) (#107)
by theantix on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:55:55 AM EST

Dude, part of the point of this article was to have you write about the people that you know on this here website.  People like to be appreciated.  Sure, I mentioned the people that I follow, but theantix's circle of awareness does not constitute an elite club no matter what delusion you are under.  

The point being: write your own damn bio about other users.  The last line of the article read "your turn".  That means it was a request for you to contribute so it wouldn't be all about the peopke I know here.  I tried to make mine both insightful with a little bit of subtle humor inserted into it to keep in interesting.  But yours can be different.  

Bah, I've said this three times now and I won't say it again.  Have a good night.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]

I feel so excluded [sob] (2.00 / 2) (#175)
by dirvish on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:27:29 AM EST

I wish I was cool like theantix and all his buddies. Now I am a loser online and offline.

Technical Certification Blog, Anti Spam Blog
[ Parent ]
Me (4.00 / 2) (#108)
by DJBongHit on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:59:02 AM EST

I live near Boston. I run a little weblog and spend the majority of my time whining about the fact that I have no pot. Oh, and I comment on articles without reading them, hence the fact that I'm writing about myself when I was clearly instructed not to.

~DJBongHit

--
GNU GPL: Free as in herpes.

wait! (4.66 / 3) (#109)
by MisterQueue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:06:28 AM EST

If you didn't read it, then you wouldn't have known not to...and if you didn't know not to, you wouldn't have read it..and if you didn... *head blows up*

-Q

Diary Lush

-------
"Don't you dare reply to this with one of your discombobulating retorts" -coillte
[ Parent ]

Nobody read it, buddy. (3.00 / 2) (#112)
by quasipalm on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:37:25 AM EST

Well, maybe somebody did... But most people looked for their name, looked for a familiar name, read your paragraph about rusty and moved on. Why would anyone waste their time doing anything else?

(hi)
[ Parent ]
MY paragraph about rusty? (4.00 / 2) (#114)
by MisterQueue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:45:15 AM EST

I think you're mistaken as to whom the author is.

-Q

Diary Lush

-------
"Don't you dare reply to this with one of your discombobulating retorts" -coillte
[ Parent ]

Oops. (3.00 / 1) (#119)
by quasipalm on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:09:20 AM EST

You're right. My bad. Replace "your" with "the."

(hi)
[ Parent ]
Well, I take it back then. (none / 0) (#198)
by quasipalm on Wed May 29, 2002 at 03:57:52 PM EST

Why the hell do you need so many accounts, anyway?

(hi)
[ Parent ]
I think the better question is (none / 0) (#204)
by MisterQueue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:37:25 PM EST

why the hell don't you?

-Q

Diary Lush

-------
"Don't you dare reply to this with one of your discombobulating retorts" -coillte
[ Parent ]

technically (4.50 / 4) (#121)
by persimmon on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:19:21 AM EST

Since you're mrgoat, and mrgoat and theantix are but two of mrboztix's many accounts.
--
So There.
[ Parent ]

Well yes (5.00 / 2) (#160)
by MisterQueue on Wed May 29, 2002 at 08:34:56 AM EST

but let's not be so difficult shall we? What I mean is that I, in my form as Queue, did not write the story...er...wait...did I? I may have. Who knows. I was drunk, that's all I'll say.

-Q

Diary Lush

-------
"Don't you dare reply to this with one of your discombobulating retorts" -coillte
[ Parent ]

Dude! (NT) (3.00 / 1) (#132)
by kraant on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:55:14 AM EST

Dude!
--
"kraant, open source guru" -- tumeric
Never In Our Names...
[ Parent ]
Profound sense of ick (4.74 / 27) (#118)
by mech9t8 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:08:52 AM EST

Why, oh why, is it human nature to try to turn everything into cliques?

k5, at its core, is a profoundly fair idea - anyone can submit an article, anyone can comment on articles.  The comment and article ratings are usually based on the content, not the author... and if someone wants to learn about someone's history and background, they can click on their name, read what they say about themselves, read their past history of comments and articles.

Simple.  Fair.  Based on merit, based on contribution.

And occasionally, there will be an article where everyone - active contributor, occasional contributor, lurker - can say "here I am".  Again, fair, equal, everyone can contribute.

And that all works great.

And someone comes along and writes a "here are the cool kids on k5" article, and it all falls apart.  Never mind the fairness, never mind merit-based: we now have an artibrary list of cool kids.  And then, even worse, it gets voted up to the front page.  So all the new and infrequent visitors can look on and get the impression that there's a clique of people that are important on k5, and if they work hard enough and try really hard to fit in, maybe one day they'll get to hang out with the cool kids at recess.  Or maybe they'll decide that since they haven't had success in the past in fitting in, they're not going to put themselves through the disappointment of not fitting in here.  And someone that could have contributed, that could have maybe even made friends or whatever, gets scared away.

Or someone who contributes actively could look upon the list with disappointment since his/her name isn't on it, desparately hoping someone will write about them in the comments section, and whatever sense of self-worth they were developing by getting stories published and comments voted up drains away.

k5 is an environment where everyone can jump in and participate as equals - even the shy or anti-social.  There should be no social status here, other than that which naturally evolves through contribution.  Arbitrary lists like this have no place on any of the "common" k5 pages - it doesn't matter how many disclaimers are put in the introduction, the fact it got voted to the front page gives it an air of officiality.

It it unreasonable that people should read so much into theantix's arbitrary list?  Of course not.  But people are not reasonable creatures, especially when it comes to things like fitting in with other people.  Sure, 35-odd people (plus whatever few people got mentioned in the comments) get to feel better - and they generally are recognized in comments and whatnot, so I don't how much it helped their egos anyway - but how many people were hurt or scared away?  We'll never know, because the people that are actually hurt or disappointed are hardly going to write messages saying that - just like real life, they'll just slip away, or try to make jokes about it.

If someone wants to make their personal list of people they know or respect or whatever on K5, and put it in their diary, hey, that's fine.  But lists like this have no place on k5 proper, and if they continue, they're just going to make k5 seem like Jr. High, and scare away the very people who might get the most good out of participating.

I've seen it a million times before in real life - people forming cliques without realizing, thinking they're open to outsiders while actually scaring people away (either accidentally or passive-aggressively).  Let's not let that happen to k5.  Articles like this are going to do far more harm than good.

--
IMHO

Imaginary threat (4.83 / 6) (#145)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:01:10 AM EST

I see your point, but I think your greatly over exaggerating the threat occasional articles like this pose to the site.
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]
Mr Circle, meet Miss Jerk (4.62 / 8) (#122)
by streetlawyer on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:25:55 AM EST

I count three cliquey meta stories on the front page now.

--
Just because things have been nonergodic so far, doesn't mean that they'll be nonergodic forever
You (4.33 / 3) (#126)
by medham on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:31:25 AM EST

Love the attention, don't hide it.

I myself am terribly disappointed that only one of my accounts was mentioned in the story, given my high-visibility.

The real 'medham' has userid 6831.
[ Parent ]

And what's the other account? (n/t) (2.00 / 1) (#238)
by broken77 on Thu May 30, 2002 at 05:39:00 PM EST


I'm starting to doubt all this happy propaganda about Islam being a religion of peace. Heck, it's just as bad as Christianity. -- Dphitz
[ Parent ]

This story is wrong... (4.70 / 10) (#131)
by pwhysall on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:54:40 AM EST

...on so many levels. K5 is not about people, it's about stories. Get over yourselves.
--
Peter
K5 Editors
I'm going to wager that the story keeps getting dumped because it is a steaming pile of badly formatted fool-meme.
CheeseBurgerBrown
Shot in the foot (4.50 / 2) (#136)
by scrm on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:12:45 AM EST

I agree. The problem with this article is that it feels rather forced - like a 'crash course in K5 personalities' that nobody asked for.

Judging by the comments on this story so far, the reaction isn't very positive and it seems that some people have shot themselves in the foot. It's a shame, because I like the 'underground' nature of K5, but with this story it seems to be playing catchup to ./ and their cast of characters.

Communities have to grow organically. In this case, K5 users should be encouraged to read the content of the stories first, and think about the characters of the people that write/comment on them second.

[ Parent ]

Hey, if you ask five K5 readers.... (5.00 / 2) (#140)
by gromgull on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:50:58 AM EST

what kuro5hin is, you'll get 6 answers.

You make your K5 into whatever you like, if people like writing diaries and forming pseudo-personal relationships, let them. If you can't post enough interesting stories about how open-source programmers should be allowed to carry guns (in the US!) to protect their freedom to speech from the DMCA, to be louder than the diary people, you have failed. Go away and find a different site.

I'm also of the conception that the people who frequntly write diaries (i.e. the folk mentioned here) also frequently post stories/comment and are just more active member of K5 in general, but that could be just because I reckognise their names.
--
If I had my way I'd have all of you shot

[ Parent ]

RE: Hey, if you ask five K5 readers.... (3.00 / 1) (#192)
by TinWeasil on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:45:54 PM EST

HOLY COW!

You mean there are FIVE K5 readers now?!?!?!?!

They're gonna need a new server...

;)
Brought to you by Ozone Nozone.
[ Parent ]

K5 is about... (5.00 / 3) (#142)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:32:11 AM EST

K5 is about many things. The articles first, for many people, but the community also.

I often think that without the community, the stories, and dicussion wouldn't be as interesting, or reasonable.
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]

Jesus fucking christ (3.66 / 6) (#133)
by CaptainZornchugger on Wed May 29, 2002 at 03:07:13 AM EST

What the hell ever happened to this site?


Look at that chord structure. There's sadness in that chord structure.
Is it just me or... (4.50 / 4) (#134)
by termfin on Wed May 29, 2002 at 03:13:19 AM EST

...is Kuro5hin getting painfully self-referential.

It seems like the only way to post a story to this site these days is to either make it so bland (such as this story), or so sycophantic (ooh, also like this story), that people are too bored to bother to nitpick it to death (as is the common passtime with stories that actually do try to say something interesting or challenging).

Sounds like ... (4.00 / 2) (#139)
by Herring on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:36:45 AM EST

... that's worth a story.


Say lol what again motherfucker, say lol what again, I dare you, no I double dare you
[ Parent ]
Getting self-referential? (4.50 / 2) (#141)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:22:54 AM EST

It always has been.

K5 hasn't changed, you've just realised K5's not what you thought was / wanted it to be, is all.
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]

Yes, it's called a community :) [N/T] (4.00 / 1) (#144)
by Betcour on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:53:21 AM EST



[ Parent ]
who am I? (4.00 / 1) (#138)
by johwsun on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:21:34 AM EST

who am I ?
;-)

Who cares? (3.50 / 2) (#166)
by kitten on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:17:01 AM EST


mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
I do...do you? (3.00 / 1) (#168)
by johwsun on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:53:29 AM EST



[ Parent ]
Jackie Chan (3.50 / 2) (#171)
by bayankaran on Wed May 29, 2002 at 10:18:09 AM EST

Who am I was a Jackie Chan movie.

[ Parent ]
Self referential? What did you expect? (4.57 / 7) (#147)
by Tezcatlipoca on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:11:27 AM EST

I read all these comments about being self referential, about the site being about histories not personalities, about how this site must be pure and virginal.

The internet, in case somehow some of you did not notice it, is part of the real world, in the real world people like to be acknowledged, recognized. In the real world people like frienships, to identify with others. In the real world there are even people that need to bang some heads to feel their existence has some meaning.

How people did you expect that a website would somehow destroy our human nature? The people that recognize that there are real persons behind the nicknamess are , in my opinion, far better grounded than those that are living in e-dreamland where all the human faults all of the sudden disappear.
Any communication effort eventualy will refer to itself. It may be newspapers, book writers, painters (self portraits anyone?), music composers. Why a website should be different baffles me.
I guess some of the people complaining would have derided Van Gogh in spite of the eminent beauty of his selfportraits. Self referential bastard!. Uhm ... yeah.
The people that complained so bitterly about creating exclusivity clubs missed completely the point: they would have diluted the effect had they posted their perceptions of others, making clear that there are as many elitist clubs as posters and readers gracing this place.

I bet that even if the nicknames were assigned randomly once a month, we still would find ways to identify with other posters, and some people still would find interesting to know a bit more about those with which a hobby is shared.
---
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... .._ _._. _._ ...
._.. ._ _ . ._.. _.__

better to be k5 self referential.. (4.66 / 3) (#153)
by johwsun on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:20:02 AM EST

We can always tell lies about our real life. No one can lie about his "life" in k5. Beeing k5 self referential is closer to the truth.

I can tell you this. I am not the president of united states. I am just Iasson, the k5 user. And you are nothing else than Tezcatlipoca, another k5 user. Thats all. I dont care about your real life, and I dont like you care about mine. The only thing I want to know about you is if you have multiple k5 accounts used in order to steal in elections. This the only knowledge I want to have for you. All the rest knowledge is optional.

[ Parent ]

Self-referencial vs. exclusive (5.00 / 2) (#174)
by mech9t8 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:06:29 AM EST

I bet that even if the nicknames were assigned randomly once a month, we still would find ways to identify with other posters, and some people still would find interesting to know a bit more about those with which a hobby is shared.

There's nothing wrong with forming communities... every time someone posts a comment that people respond to, they're part of the community.  Every time someone posts a story that people respond to, they're part of the community.  Every time someone posts a diary entry, they're part of the community.

And, over time, those bonds will grow - people will become familiar with people's writing styles, their lives as presented in the their diaries, etc.  And through discussions, they can learn quite a bit about each other.

And there's nothing wrong with any of that.

However, when a list gets posted on the front page of thirty-odd selected people, it unnaturally influences that community.  People may no longer judge their level of acceptance by their interactions with other users, but by whether or not they made "the list."  Especially when that list isn't just someone's personal list in their diary, but posted and approved by the community on the front page.

Is it natural for people to pick their group of friends and want to elevate them?  Sure.  Happens all the time in real life.  Is it right?  Is it what we want for kuro5hin?

I (and a lot of the comment posters for this story) say "no".  I think the potential harm from having an arbitrary list of "k5 community" people outweighs whatever benefits come from it.  I don't think it helps to build the community.  If even one person was hurt by his non-inclusion on the list - if even one person got turned off by the cliqueiness of k5 and doesn't return - than I think the price is too high for negligable gains.

The people that recognize that there are real persons behind the nicknamess are , in my opinion, far better grounded than those that are living in e-dreamland where all the human faults all of the sudden disappear.

My objections to this sort of thing are exactly based on that: that the people behind the non-listed names are just as real as the people behind the listed ones, and just like cliques in real life, the people being left out can be hurt.

Will all human faults disappear?  Of course not.... on the Internet, they're usually exaggerrated.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't put effort into the stopping them.

Any communication effort eventualy will refer to itself.

There's nothing wrong with self-reference.  If someone wants to write "my guide to writing good k5 articles", go ahead; if someone wants to start a "who are you" page and everyone can join in and participate, that's great; if someone wants to create a personal or community-based, "best of k5" page go ahead.  Those stories not uninteresting to some, but they aren't harming or excluding anyone.  (Although I think the "I'm an editor so I'm important and listen to me" attitude of the recent "how to write stories" article was unnecessary.)

It's not the self-reference of this article which bothers me, it's the exclusivity.  It's impossible to choose people for a list without excluding others.  And I don't see excluding people as being good for k5.

--
IMHO
[ Parent ]

Exclusivity? (4.50 / 2) (#181)
by theantix on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:14:24 PM EST

Okay, I'm running the risk of repeating myself to death here, but you clearly missed a large purpose to my article. As I plainly laid out in the header, the point was that by definition I can only write about so many people.  So I selected a few people whose I follow, and requested that you write about them.

Why?  Because people like to be appreciated, and it's nice to know sometimes that people are listening and following what you say.  At least, I think that it's nice, and it seems that enough people agreed to vote this article up.  Part of a community involves having people recognize you from time to time, and I was doing my little bit.

However, I can see your point to some extent because a grand total of two people have bothered to write about someone else.  Regardless I don't think that's a fault of the article, instead it's the fault of the people who have complained that they were missed instead of writing about other people that were missed.  Thankfully, the other goals of the article were met with raging success, otherwise I would be quite dissapointed right now.

--
You sir, are worse than Hitler!
[ Parent ]

Intention vs Reality (5.00 / 2) (#220)
by mech9t8 on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:19:49 PM EST

I tend to pay no attention to the "who's" of the comments and articles, and simply reply to the content; hence I don't really know anyone well enough to write something about them.  So that's why I haven't actually contributed to the article, only criticized. ;)  I'm personnally not here for the community, really, just for the content and debate: however, there are plenty of people that are here looking for community, and articles like this could be seen to be excluding them.

My problem isn't with your intention for the article; it was clearly written with the intention of getting everyone to write about each other and be very inclusive and whatnot.  Unfortunately, that's clearly not what happened - it was voted on to the front page with something like thirty people actually being written about.  If everyone who gave it a "+1 FP" also wrote in the comments about someone else, it would've worked - but it didn't, and instead we ended up with what could easily be percieved to be a list of cool people, validated by the community.  Hence my reaction: ick. ;)

Perhaps it would've worked better to not have the list of people in the actual article; then everyone would be a "comment-level" person - and it would force people to actually write something to justify their +1 votes.  There would still be the problem of people feeling left out when no one writes about them, but that would be lowered to the level of acceptable risk, I guess, balanced by the surprise of unexpectedly being written about.  

In any case, it unfortunately wasn't working, and the voters should've realized it, and either contributed to it or voted it down.  Maybe next time they'll think before they vote.  Probably not, though...

--
IMHO
[ Parent ]

K5 and the real world (2.00 / 1) (#200)
by quartz on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:03:23 PM EST

The internet, in case somehow some of you did not notice it, is part of the real world, in the real world people like to be acknowledged, recognized.

Yeah, only if this were the real world, the 30 or 40 people (or however many they are) who "acknowledge" and "regognize" themselves and/or each other in this story and the ensuing comments would have to do so while 30,000 other people are standing on the side and staring at them.

Now that would be fun to watch.

--
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke, and fuck 'em even if they can.
[ Parent ]

Don't we call that Hollywood? (none / 0) (#237)
by krek on Thu May 30, 2002 at 02:38:00 PM EST



[ Parent ]
Christ (3.42 / 14) (#148)
by tombuck on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:25:42 AM EST

That was a fuckload of wank, wasn't it? Let's all pat ourselves on the back and revel in our greatness.

You cuntwash turd, fuck off.

--
Give me yer cash!

Look at the text (4.66 / 3) (#170)
by jmzero on Wed May 29, 2002 at 10:13:29 AM EST

Then look at the comment rating.  Where else would this happen?  

If nothing else interesting comes out of this discussion, at least we have your well rated, profanity laced criticism here.
.
"Let's not stir that bag of worms." - my lovely wife
[ Parent ]

Where else could this happen? (4.00 / 2) (#172)
by Herring on Wed May 29, 2002 at 10:26:46 AM EST

A "Derek and Clive" discussion site?


Say lol what again motherfucker, say lol what again, I dare you, no I double dare you
[ Parent ]
You can fuck off and all (1.50 / 4) (#178)
by tombuck on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:44:26 AM EST

cuntrag

--
Give me yer cash!
[ Parent ]

There aren't many programmers in Maine (2.75 / 4) (#150)
by GoingWare on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:29:57 AM EST

There aren't many programmers in Maine, at least not that I can find. We need to stick together.

I wanted to hang with some other programmers IRL so a while back I drove several hours each way to Boston to go to the ICCA chapter meeting. That's how hard it is to find other programmers here.

I figured out Rusty was in maine when my credit card statement gave some island in Maine as the billing address for my Kuro5hin ads.

I emailed Rusty about this and and told him I lived in Owl's Head, and he said he knew three others. He said we should all start a consulting business except we all already had our own.

He said he's never going to leave Maine, and I can understand how he feels. It's a beautiful place, and I was able to buy a nice house here on a couple acres of wooded land, something I never could have done in California.

One more that Rusty doesn't know is Chris Russel, who lives in Yarmouth (not a K5er). It happens Chris is looking for consulting work - he's an expert Windows C++ programmer, and is doing some amazing stuff with hypergraphs in the content management system he is developing.

Any other people from Maine here?

There must be some programmers in Maine because Borders Books in South Portland has a decent computer section.

The web designer who did the Rock City Coffee website lives on an island around here somewhere too.

There are lots of islands in Maine, and ferries everywhere.

I just wish that business stayed open later. They roll up the sidewalks at 5 pm. In santa cruz there were several cafes open until midnight. Everyone gets up early around here and also goes to bed early, not something many programmers like to do. I'm up early now because I've been up all night.


I am the K5 user now known as MichaelCrawford. I am not my corporation.


maine programmers (3.00 / 1) (#229)
by samth on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:58:39 PM EST

Well, I don't live in Maine these days (at school in chicago) but I'm from Lewiston. And I'm a programmer. And the Border's computer section is extensive but sucky, much like the rest of Borders.

Given a choice between Libertarianism and ravenous martian spores, I ask you, do I look good in this Bernaise sauce? -- eLuddite
[ Parent ]
a bit slow on the uptake (none / 0) (#254)
by rizzo242 on Wed Jun 05, 2002 at 09:00:17 AM EST

but I'm a PHP/Perl/whatever programmer in Portland.  Every time Rusty and I try to hook up for a drink, it somehow keeps failing to pan out.

Perhaps we should all meet some evening for burgers n' beer?  Like a Maine K5abal?
--
"Believe it or not in the last few months I have already thought of the brilliant idea you came up with in the last thirty seconds." -Parent ]

Great (4.28 / 7) (#152)
by Silent Chris on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:13:10 AM EST

I'm ignored in public, now I'm ignored on the Internet. The last possible sanction of social uniformity and I fucked it up. Crap.

right, so how do we get on this list? (4.60 / 5) (#154)
by Shren on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:25:07 AM EST

  • Have a site that links to K5.
  • Write at least one good story.
  • Have some kind of radical philosophically untenable position that we refuse to relent.
  • Be female.
  • Claim to be female.
  • Sponsorship.
  • Argh.
  • Mod everything arbitrarily.
  • Cause trouble in some proactive way.
Did I miss any?

Yes (5.00 / 4) (#156)
by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:29:15 AM EST

* Maintain an (amusing) diary.
---
Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell
[ Parent ]
Just change the title to Diary All-Stars! (4.00 / 2) (#162)
by Swashbuckler on Wed May 29, 2002 at 08:48:45 AM EST

"HA! Diary All-stars!" - Nelson Muntz


*Note* - this comment contains no inside K5 humour because inside K5 humour is only for/by K5-wankers. Media does not = "community."
[ Parent ]
you missed all of them :-) (3.00 / 1) (#163)
by mami on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:02:56 AM EST

  • Have a site that links to K5 - Nope, not true
  • Write at least one good story - Nope, a bad one does it too
  • Have ... a radical philosophy untenable position ... we refuse to relent
  • - Not possible as long as Rusty is the boss
  • be female - Are you kidding?
  • Claim to be female - Who would do that? - here on K5! .. tz, tz...
  • Sponsorship - We don't take money, you can't bribe us
  • Argh - Could you elaborate on this one?
  • Mod everything arbitrarily - How do you do this?
  • Cause trouble in some proactive way - Typical geek failure in logic, arghh.

    [ Parent ]
  • I'd just like to announce (4.50 / 2) (#165)
    by porkchop_d_clown on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:14:33 AM EST

    Despite my claims to be a 37 year old man, I'm really a 15 year old girl with a thing for geeks....


    --
    I feel like I've lived my live in screensaver mode....


    [ Parent ]
    Hrmph. (4.50 / 2) (#185)
    by dilinger on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:47:43 PM EST

        * Have a site that links to K5.
    Have that..
        * Write at least one good story.
    Did that, although under a different (off by an l) username..
        * Have some kind of radical philosophically untenable position that we refuse to relent.
    Does debian zealot count?
        * Be female.
    D'oh..
        * Claim to be female.
    Ok, where do I sign up for my female gender membership card?
        * Sponsorship.
    Hey, we host kuro5hin!
        * Argh.
    Grr.
        * Mod everything arbitrarily.
    Alas, not enough time for mod'ing..
        * Cause trouble in some proactive way.
    Again; we host kuro5hin. :)


    [ Parent ]
    Re-write for greenrd (4.50 / 4) (#157)
    by Stick on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:50:40 AM EST

    greenrd - greenrd is a troll who trolls as an anti-troll in order to troll the trolls.


    ---
    Stick, thine posts bring light to mine eyes, tingles to my loins. Yea, each moment I sit, my monitor before me, waiting, yearning, needing your prose to make the moment complete. - Joh3n
    Hrmph. (4.50 / 4) (#167)
    by Spatula on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:24:11 AM EST

    This article is the best argument yet made for an 'autofellatio' topic choice. At least fine sites like fsck.me.uk don't make any bones about being cliquey and insanely self-referential. Also, thanks for lowering the worth of the "Who You Are" series, which actually were quite nice articles, at their times.
    --
    someday I'll find something to put here.
    Who am I? (4.88 / 9) (#169)
    by hardburn on Wed May 29, 2002 at 09:59:55 AM EST

    Who am I? I am Susan Ivanova. Commander. Daughter of Andrei and Sophie Ivanov. I am right hand of vengeance and the boot that is going to kick your sorry ass all the way back to earth. I death incarnate and the last living thing that you are every going to see. God sent me.

    Oops, wrong personality.


    ----
    while($story = K5::Story->new()) { $story->vote(-1) if($story->section() == $POLITICS); }


    evilpckls does not live in Minnesota. (4.00 / 2) (#179)
    by nstenz on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:47:44 AM EST

    evilpckls was living in Madison, WI. She's now home for the summer.

    SpyderFaerie lives in Minnesota.

    I am he who howls in the night (3.50 / 2) (#182)
    by thunderbee on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:27:33 PM EST

    I am he who moans in the snow
    I am he who hath never seen light
    I am he who mounts from below

    My car is the car of death
    My wings are the wings of dread
    My breath is the north wind's breath
    My prey are the cold and the dead

    (from memory ;-) How many know where I stole this?

    tmoertel (5.00 / 2) (#183)
    by codemonkey_uk on Wed May 29, 2002 at 12:34:22 PM EST

    In the spirit of theantix's article I have picked somone to "do", who wasn't "done" in the article, or in the comments. If everyone did the same, no one would be left out.

    Tom is the orginator of K5's Programming Fun Contest (PFC). He is a skilled multi-language, multi-paradigm programmer, and technical writter. He is also and enthusiastic Haskell advocate. Despite my knowing the "T" stands for "Tom", for some reason I always think of him as a "Tim".
    ---
    Thad
    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell

    ...with many omissions, of course... (5.00 / 1) (#191)
    by pb on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:33:48 PM EST

    Here are a few obvious ones off the top of my head:

    cp is an Editor; whee!

    JCB was originally known for rating everyone's comments +5, but got grumpy when they didn't like it.

    kmself is responsible for many of the ideas that went into making Kuro5hin what it is today.

    ...and I'm sure there are lots of other people missing from the list, many forgotten in the sands of time...

    ---
    "See what the drooling, ravening, flesh-eating hordes^W^W^W^WKuro5hin.org readers have to say."
    -- pwhysall

    *fap fap fap* (1.66 / 3) (#193)
    by 0xdeadbeef on Wed May 29, 2002 at 01:58:29 PM EST

    The following people should post more: brainwane, Stronium Dog, danny, and Captain Ledford.  The rest of you are human garbage.

    You know me, theantix... (1.00 / 7) (#195)
    by Treach on Wed May 29, 2002 at 02:20:05 PM EST

    I'm the guy who banged yo momma.

    also (4.00 / 1) (#197)
    by pb on Wed May 29, 2002 at 03:38:12 PM EST

    Let's not forget enterfornone, who is single-handedly responsible for posting all the articles on kuro5hin, and possibly even this one ...
    ---
    "See what the drooling, ravening, flesh-eating hordes^W^W^W^WKuro5hin.org readers have to say."
    -- pwhysall
    No... (none / 0) (#253)
    by Shmit on Wed Jun 05, 2002 at 02:57:58 AM EST

    That'd be mrgoat..

    ~*~

    Kuro5hin.org: God's hand, up your bum.

    ~*~
    [ Parent ]

    infinitera (5.00 / 2) (#201)
    by Cal Bunny on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:27:07 PM EST

    infinitera is one of those raving, liberal anarchists.  Most of his commentary is sociopolitical in nature and about aberant sexual practices.  He attended the University of Wisconsin - Madison studying congnitive science, but is planning on attending the University of Massachusettes - Boston so be closer to his girlfriend, kestrel13.  Is you have ever seen his IM away message, you would sickened by the cuteness and affection of it.  Maybe someday we might start our own commune together.


    ^cb^
    did kestrel13 go to the same high school as him ? (none / 0) (#231)
    by nodsmasher on Thu May 30, 2002 at 09:20:30 AM EST


    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Most people don't realise just how funny cannibalism can actually be.
    -Tatarigami
    [ Parent ]
    no [nt] (none / 0) (#258)
    by infinitera on Sun Nov 24, 2002 at 04:18:21 PM EST



    [ Parent ]
    babylago (5.00 / 1) (#202)
    by theantix on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:31:03 PM EST

    babylago lives in the paradise that is San Diego California with his wife.  He is gainfully employed and his work takes him across the country enduring the trials and tribulations associated with that.  He enjoys gardening and spending time in the southern california sun.  He is compiling a database of who k5ers would do, which will certainly be used for nefarious purposes when the research is complete.

    --
    You sir, are worse than Hitler!
    Enough already (4.50 / 2) (#205)
    by toganet on Wed May 29, 2002 at 04:43:31 PM EST

    Ok, I feel I've read enough of the comments to say this:

    First, those of you complaining that the story is self-referential, remember:  The story is about the people who write stories on K5, not about the story itself.  If it were self-referential, it would say things like "This is the greatest story that any shithead has ever posted."

    Second, if you weren't mentioned, then theantix doesn't know you.  That's all.  If you feel slighted, then that is probably because you post on this site merely to hear yourself speak (or read yourself type?  We need new intransitive verbs).  _Get over yourself._  Try posting something interesting, and maybe having a life outside K5, and then people might actually take notice.

    Johnson's law: Systems resemble the organizations that create them.


    Me (3.00 / 1) (#208)
    by inerte on Wed May 29, 2002 at 05:17:57 PM EST

      I just wanted my name and my bad english to appear close to other enlightened usernames. See a few centimeters up and you can prove my point :-)

    --
    Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind.
    Plato

    theantix: (4.00 / 3) (#215)
    by mideast on Wed May 29, 2002 at 06:39:42 PM EST

    Theantix is an elderly old man who lives alone in a small cabin with nothing but a computer, a phone line, and 84 cats.

    83. (4.50 / 2) (#218)
    by kwsNI on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:16:49 PM EST

    He had guests over for dinner last night.

    kwsNI
    [ Parent ]
    What I do... (4.00 / 2) (#219)
    by DeadBaby on Wed May 29, 2002 at 07:19:05 PM EST

    I like to spend my days reading K5. Sometimes I write articles about K5 to submit to K5 (of course silly!) I also enjoy pretending I don't read slashdot and use Linux exclusively.

    Now, I know you're thinking to yourself... DeadBaby, you seem to spend a lot of time on K5 but you must do other things right? Of course. When not posting self-satisfying stories to K5 I like to sit in dark rooms and think about K5 or plan my newest quirky text ad.
    "Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity -- in all this vastness -- there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. It is up to us." - Carl Sagan

    DOKool (because I don't know anyone else here...) (5.00 / 1) (#228)
    by LGM on Wed May 29, 2002 at 11:10:35 PM EST

    DOKool is, indeed, a cool dude from Pennsylvania. He's a web comics fan (FLEM and CRFH are among his favorites), and likes card games, rap and hip-hop. He's good at math and computers, and is also very nice.


    ---
    Luis González Miranda, just another chilean programmer and fellow Linux nut. My comics.
    I me mine (none / 0) (#232)
    by Rainy on Thu May 30, 2002 at 09:35:23 AM EST

    I am the best, most captivating k5 k5inizen. That's why I don't post stories or comments - it takes my mind off pure delight that is me. I am the green hand rising from the tree crown to meet the sun. I am the snake that told Eve she looks best when dressed. I am the "am" in "I am". I be. I hate myself to compensate for the unbearable feeling of perfection. I like marbles because they're the most unassuming toys. Did you know that you can buy a hundred marbles in Toys for Us (I have the time to spell it in full!) for two bucks? That's two cents a marble, not too bad. I hope you don't think I'm ranting off, because what's ranting? Lift it up from the sea of definitions and examine it. Now let it back - swim the infosphere, little fish! You've not matured enough, we'll catch you and eat you and spit out your leetle bones when all is understood. I'm not even going to re-read this post - if a banal thought managed to escape my shallow pond of a mind, so be it. Love me for my banality! Be humane, you bastards. As the sun kissed the horizon.. tell me something: how can a so-called "artist" pour this little bucket of perfection on this album I'm listening to - Substrata is the name of it - and then pen a chirpy, squeaky assinity like "Hyperborea"? I could be wrong, though. It's been known to happen. You can never get bored by looking at still waters of a pond but the pond, isn't it infinitely bored of you? I'm kidding.
    --
    Rainy "Collect all zero" Day
    A tecnicality (none / 0) (#240)
    by jaddpfmesa on Thu May 30, 2002 at 06:39:15 PM EST

    That's why I don't post stories or comments I did read this in a comment didn't I, and yes I did spell technicality wrong on purpose.

    [ Parent ]
    This is like... (4.42 / 7) (#233)
    by simonbelmont on Thu May 30, 2002 at 11:54:52 AM EST

    The "popular" crowd in high school making a pamphlet about who they are and why they are so cool, then handing them out to all the "loser" students.  We can stop with the self-congratulatory "all about us" type of stories now.  Geez.

    --
    the more you change the less you feel
    medham (3.50 / 2) (#239)
    by broken77 on Thu May 30, 2002 at 05:39:43 PM EST

    is a troll. Just stay away from him.

    I'm starting to doubt all this happy propaganda about Islam being a religion of peace. Heck, it's just as bad as Christianity. -- Dphitz

    Great. (5.00 / 2) (#241)
    by WWWWolf on Thu May 30, 2002 at 07:01:00 PM EST

    I'm not mentioned so far. I'm not visible.

    I can't say this is desired, but, well, seeing the general reactions, do I really need the visibility afterall?

    -- Weyfour WWWWolf, a lupine technomancer from the cold north...


    Hmm... I see you're still around. :-) (none / 0) (#255)
    by LGM on Wed Jun 05, 2002 at 07:02:45 PM EST

    I don't think I know you enough to make an entry about you, but I'm seeing posts from you once in a while since, I dunno, 1996-7? I even visited your site more than once; yours was one of the first personal webpages I visited. However, my memory fails to tell me more about you.
    ---
    Luis González Miranda, just another chilean programmer and fellow Linux nut. My comics.
    [ Parent ]
    Indies,cliques,high school..... (3.66 / 3) (#247)
    by stpna5 on Fri May 31, 2002 at 03:55:19 AM EST

    As Martin Mull long ago observed (before having his quotation oft stolen and unattributed): "Showbusiness is like high school with money." And as George Carlin observed: individually humans can be quite wonderful, but a group of them starts to quickly organize into hierarchies and "pretty soon they have secret handshakes, and bonfires and brown shirts and lists of people they want to go visit at 3 o'clock in the morning." Just a couple of thoughts...not mine, of course.

    Who am I? (none / 0) (#249)
    by bluehead on Sat Jun 01, 2002 at 06:55:32 AM EST

    Just a k5 semi-lurker.
    Who are you?
    The person who has completely destroyed the whole spirit of the "who are you" series of stories by enumerating the "cool kids" (and implicitly including yourself by writing the story).

    Thanks.
    You just made yourself and a few others feel special and made kuro5hin a little less enjoyable to read for the un-named many.
    Wank on!

    Hard like a criminal.
    makolee (none / 0) (#251)
    by BlackStripe on Tue Jun 04, 2002 at 01:24:19 PM EST

    makolee is a tall, angular uber-geek with medium-length vertical blonde hair and an eclectic wardrobe. A connaisseur of all things Linux, his knowledge base also extends to obscure hip hop artists, weird teas that smell funny and leave plant matter in the bottom of your mug, and of course the dance moves of some weird Korean techno guy. Oh, and he was an awesome roommate, especially under the circumstances.

    Blackstripe out.

    Oh yeah (none / 0) (#252)
    by BlackStripe on Tue Jun 04, 2002 at 01:31:38 PM EST

    Here's the closest you'll probably get to a bio. Peace.

    Blackstripe out.

    [ Parent ]

    testing (1.00 / 2) (#256)
    by thebestesttestest on Tue Jun 18, 2002 at 01:51:50 AM EST

    Finding my UID #. Nothing to see here, please move along.

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