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A place for fiction on K5?

By wrinkledshirt in Meta
Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 11:45:00 AM EST
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In light of the recent excellent "Stories of a Porn Clerk" submission, I was just curious as to whether or not K5 would be receptive to posting fiction in some place other than the Diaries section.

It strikes me that there's a lot of well-read K5ers who could probably contribute and/or critique fiction (or poetry, I guess), or alternately, get a kick out of some well-written stuff. Also, the message board format would be particularly well-suited to workshopping. The comment voting would put a particularly interesting twist on the feedback.


I did try checking around to see if anything like this had been done on K5 before, but couldn't find anything. I just thought it would be a neat idea since it would be a little more legitimate than what could be accomplished in the Diaries section, which would pretty much just be vanity publishing.

Anyhow, that's it. Even if it gets toasted in the voting section, it would still be neat to see how the K5ers would respond.

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A place for fiction on K5? | 72 comments (53 topical, 19 editorial, 0 hidden)
I don't see anything wrong with the idea (4.00 / 1) (#1)
by d s oliver h on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 08:34:35 PM EST

I would certainly post something if there was a fiction section. I think it could be an interesting addition to the site and not detract from it at all. Could even produce some good stuff...

K5 can be a harsh judge... (none / 0) (#9)
by Xeriar on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 10:20:44 PM EST

I would almost be tempted to say it's like trying to get a book published :-)

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So? (4.75 / 4) (#21)
by bodrius on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 12:39:27 AM EST

I would think that's the main attractive to a Kuro5hin fiction section.

There are already many literary mailing lists, websites, and forums where the communities specialize in being "open minded", where "open minded" is redefined to "we don't give subjective judgements of quality because we respect everyone's style, because otherwise everyone leaves".

Kuro5hin does provide a framework suitable for experimenting and preparing drafts (diaries), filtering the trash (vote queue), polishing the rough (edit queue), organizing and focusing discussions (moderated threads), and feedback that can be tracked to well-rounded, complete virtual identities (people usually take criticisms from critics they respect for their ideas in other topics more as serious advice and less as a personal insult).

Back in the "old days" (7-8 years ago), when the Internet was not popular and BBSes and mailing lists ruled the land, I used to meet virtually and physically with some people for literary discussions.

Both in real and virtual life, my best experiences were with groups that where not exclusively literary. Discussions ranged into and out of the literary world; a thread on science fiction would prompt a determinism thread, which would prompt a more traditional literary thread, which would deviate into politics, religion, whatever.

The broad spectrum of topics meant everyone got an idea of who represented the public they were targeting with their stories, and those were the critics they tried to please.

The comment archive in Scoop would let you see, from their behavior in different discussions, whether someone is a troll. In the literary section, it would also let you see the kind of criticisms and comments made on similar texts... so if someone who just can't stand alternate history hates your alt. history story, you won't take it too hard, and if they love the genre but still hate your story you have good reasons to listen to their opinion.
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I agree (none / 0) (#33)
by gazbo on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 06:03:10 AM EST

But I'd be mainly interested in seeing warped stuff like this. I doubt that enough K5ers would agree though - the section would end up taking itself too seriously.
What? It's not even 7 chapters long! And where's the character development?

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Go Ahead... Get it Started! (none / 0) (#56)
by mcherm on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 01:41:52 PM EST

You write: "I would certainly post something if there was a fiction section." Well, go ahead and give it a try! You'll have to post to the diaries section at first, but if enough people really buy into it, then you might just convince people to CREATE that fiction section.

Alternatively, there are other sites for fiction, as mentioned in comments throughout this story.

-- Michael Chermside
[ Parent ]

I'd read a fiction section. (4.25 / 4) (#2)
by terpy on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 08:45:41 PM EST

In fact, I'm all for a few more sections. I'd really like to see a recipe section, because every now and then a good one gets posted in a diary (because theres no where else to post it unless done up as a how to (ex: rice)), and it'd be great to have a repository.

Much as I like the recipes... Fiction seems better suited to K5 I think. I'd like to see a new section get a chance.

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Recipe section (none / 0) (#8)
by yzf750 on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 10:09:20 PM EST

That sounds like a good idea. Anyone know of a scoop based recipe site?

[ Parent ]
Man (none / 0) (#38)
by rusty on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:22:41 AM EST

One of the "itches" I've had for about two years now has been to make a scoop-based food and cooking community. There's just nothing like it out there. There's tons of recipe sites, but no place where I feel like I can actually connect with people who are into cooking. And I judgng from the frequency the idea comes up here, it would have a guaranteed audience of several hundred right from launch.

Alas, it has been back-burnered (har de har) for ages. I even have a domain for it. Someday...

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

After more thought (none / 0) (#48)
by yzf750 on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 09:37:19 AM EST

I really think it would take off as well. I guess I should think about downloading Scoop and seeing what I can come up with. The closest thing I have found is this which is a linked set of websites, with a very active mailing list. Although it seems to be down right now.

Yea, I bet a community cooking/food/recipe site would be a big hit.

[ Parent ]
nothing like it out there (none / 0) (#55)
by FredBloggs on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 12:30:39 PM EST

Usenet - rec.food.*  Some, like rec.food.veg.cooking are moderated, and if you want to talk to people you can email them. Sort of like Kuro5hin, only without the the hatred towards other people.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&group=rec.food.veg.cooking


[ Parent ]

alternatives to K5 (5.00 / 7) (#6)
by mattw on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 09:11:56 PM EST

K5's theme doesn't really encompass fiction, if you asked me, but I did ask about this once in a diary, looking for a scoop-based fiction forum. I got pointed towards:

Toasted Cheese

and

Radio Free Tomorrow


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Also (4.60 / 5) (#7)
by kwsNI on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 09:46:00 PM EST

Lit.Hator42 - a great scoop site for posting any creative writing.

kwsNI
[ Parent ]
actually (none / 0) (#14)
by mattw on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 10:56:15 PM EST

I believe that's lit42.hatori.com, but it remains down,sadly.


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[ Parent ]
down? (none / 0) (#15)
by delmoi on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 11:05:22 PM EST

It was down for a week or so at the beginning of summer (when my monitor blew and all my IPs changed, making it impossible for me to reconfigure) but it works fine now.
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[ Parent ]
ah, the real lit*.hatori*.* stands up (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by mattw on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 11:59:27 PM EST

Ok, that's the thing. It isn't lit42.hatori.com, or lit.hatori42.org, its:

lit.hatori42.com.



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[ Parent ]
More (none / 0) (#59)
by janra on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 02:08:35 PM EST

Toasted cheese isn't scoop-run, but it is a place to post fiction. I know a few of the people there from before they started it, and while they claim to not pull their punches, I found their critiques rather generic and fuzzy. (Not to say they praise everything; they are reasonably constructive.) Nice people, I just don't post my fiction there.

Radio Free Tomorrow accepts fiction, but only Science Fiction. Not a problem for me, as that's what I write, but it's not for everybody.

Write On! is for discussing writing of any and all genres, but doesn't officially handle critiques. (Yes, that's my site.) I don't really like the web-posting method of critiques, which is why I made that decision for Write On! early in its life.

My dislike of web-board or message-board critiques is probably due to the fact that I haven't yet seen a particularly good one, while I have seen a really excellent internet-based critique group - they handled it through email, with a certain ratio of good critiques per week before you're allowed to post your own story for review. And if you do a bad critique, the recipient can complain and you don't get credit for it. That would be Critters, and they handle SF/F/H.


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[ Parent ]
I posted fiction here once. (5.00 / 3) (#12)
by delmoi on Thu Aug 01, 2002 at 10:50:33 PM EST

long time ago. It's the first section of my novel-in-progress. I actually posted it in the MLP section with the introduction to the book as the story body. It was interesting to read the "this should be an MLP" editorial comments.

It got posted then, but I doubt it would be posted if it were submitted today.

I also tried starting my own scoop site lit.hatori42.com for creative writing, but it never really took off the way I wanted it too. Impressions started out at a healthy 1.5 thousand per month, but dropped off to a couple hundred. When I rebuilt the system I didn't even bother setting up webalizer, so I have no idea how many hits I'm getting. In contrast, another site I set up autopr0n.com(nsfw) gets about 4 thousand hits from 15 hundred unique users a day.

To be honest, I'd really love to see a fiction section on k5. It's true that there are a lot of other sites out there, but none of them would really let you reach the kind of audience that a site like k5 would let you. I think a lot of people here might appreciate good fiction. On the other hand, the queue might get filled with crap from all the people who think they can write, but actually can't.
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I'll post soon :) (none / 0) (#18)
by mattw on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 12:06:28 AM EST

I've been working on a vignette from the history of a world I've created as a setting for a fantasy novel. To sort of warm up my tone and test out the world, I'm writing short stories for key events. (In this case, it is the first time one nation invades another after the early days when the gods themselves fought.)


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[ Parent ]
Once? (1.00 / 2) (#20)
by thelizman on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 12:16:39 AM EST

Seems to me everything you post is fiction! : )
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"Our language is sufficiently clumsy enough to allow us to believe foolish things." - George Orwell
[ Parent ]
K5 diary section considered harmful (3.00 / 1) (#37)
by TheophileEscargot on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:00:28 AM EST

I've noticed that both hatori42 and Radio Free Tomorrow started out strongly, then seem to have declined in the rate of story posting.

I think one problem is the gigantic gravity well of K5, which sucks in content like a black hole. You can almost always get more comments in a K5 diary, than in a story posted on one of the smaller sites.

Maybe it's time K5 went down again for a few weeks...
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[ Parent ]

Another approach (none / 0) (#40)
by mcherm on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:30:34 AM EST

So the "gigantic gravity well of K5" "sucks in content like a black hole". Instead of treating that as a problem that needs to be combatted, use it to your advantage. The level of attention that K5 diaries get makes that an excellent forum for potential storytelling. For an example, see my sig.

-- Michael Chermside
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Ah, but also like a black hole... (none / 0) (#45)
by TheophileEscargot on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 09:14:35 AM EST

...it crushes and distorts as it sucks stuff in. Typical K5-fare is rewarded by comment, untypical stuff is subtly discouraged until, as Stephen Hawking would put it, the diary is turned into (bland and homogenous) spaghetti.

I like these two story-diaries, but they're pretty exceptional.

I think it might eventually even benefit the Scoop universe if K5 was to disappear. The diaspora of people who are comfortable with Scoop might produce a much greater and more diverse set of smaller sites.
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[ Parent ]

copyright issues (3.50 / 2) (#22)
by semaphore on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 02:03:51 AM EST

i'd guess that as long as the story is in the queue it remains unpublished, but once your story makes it through the queue, you will be considered to have published it.

if you're posting something that you would want to submit afterwards for publication to more "mainstream" publishers for payment, or whatever, copyright becomes an issue and is something to consider.

take a look at the copyright statement on k5. as i understand it, once it hits here, who knows what will happen to it, you have no control.

many publishers aren't flexible enough to handle something that they don't get first rights, etc to.

fwiw, online workshops get around this by being closed communities, and as such, submitting to these is not considered to have "published".

of course, if all you want to do is see your stuff in the wild, why not?


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"you want enlightenment? stare into the sun."


You do *NOT* lose copyright by posting on K5! (none / 0) (#41)
by mcherm on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:33:28 AM EST

I quote from the copyright statement: "You lose no copyright control over your words, and are not beholden to us in any way shape or form." How much clearer can it be than that?

-- Michael Chermside
[ Parent ]
First rights (4.50 / 2) (#49)
by rusty on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 09:54:21 AM EST

It's true that you don't lose copyright control. We merely reserve the right to publish whatever you submit here on the site. Apart from that, it remains all yours.

But first serial rights remains an issue. If you publish something here, you have already used your first rights -- you can only publish something first once. Many publications won't accept something that's already been published elsewhere.

They may distinguish between online and print, though. In any case, it would be something authors ought to consider.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

we already have a site for fiction (4.50 / 10) (#23)
by nodsmasher on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 02:27:12 AM EST

its called adequacy
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You read my mind. <nt> (3.00 / 1) (#68)
by robson on Sat Aug 03, 2002 at 11:09:26 PM EST


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As an aspiring writer... (none / 0) (#27)
by kevsan on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 03:54:01 AM EST

I think poetry ought to be added into the fiction category, under some sort of "Creative Writing" section.

Just a thought.

-K
Hmm (5.00 / 1) (#29)
by carbon on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 04:06:51 AM EST

Well, fiction is already 'culture'. So isn't it just a matter of adding a 'Fiction' or perhaps 'Fic5hin' section/topic to the database? That's probably all that's needed to get voters to consider fiction stories in a topical light. And I don't see any real reason why fiction is incompatible with the nature of k5 itself.



Wasn't Dr. Claus the bad guy on Inspector Gadget? - dirvish
Yes, thats all it would take. (none / 0) (#30)
by delmoi on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 04:22:14 AM EST

It's pretty easy to add new sections to a scoop site.
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"'argumentation' is not a word, idiot." -- thelizman
[ Parent ]
If K5 accepted fiction as an independant section.. (none / 0) (#31)
by christian on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 04:54:49 AM EST

I'd post here more often and read everything that I came across if fiction and poetry and creative works in general were given it's own section. I love to write, I've been epublished once and I'd like to expand into the areas of profitible writing. Anyways... christian

CreaK5hin (none / 0) (#32)
by anylulu on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 05:24:18 AM EST

Could we have a CreaK5hin section where all kinds of creative works could be posted? Writing is the most suited to the format of the site, but others could post links to their photos, multimedia works, music, videos, etc., etc., etc.
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I prefer Krea5hin (NT) (none / 0) (#53)
by davidmb on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 11:16:14 AM EST


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[ Parent ]
Yes, it is better. (none / 0) (#72)
by anylulu on Mon Aug 05, 2002 at 06:03:11 AM EST


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[ Parent ]
There can only be one deviantart.com :p [NT] (none / 0) (#70)
by Focx on Sun Aug 04, 2002 at 07:32:53 AM EST


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[ Parent ]
Krea5hin is not the same... (none / 0) (#71)
by anylulu on Mon Aug 05, 2002 at 06:02:43 AM EST

because it would be for this community. That's a different community.
-- peace, love and anylulu http://www.anylulu.com
[ Parent ]
Maybe... (4.00 / 1) (#35)
by ffrinch on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 07:18:52 AM EST

I agree, I think kuro5hin could be a great place to post and discuss fiction.

I don't think it would work out as a straight "section" though. Even assuming that the majority of users know good fiction when they see it, and only the very best gets past the queue, there could be other problems.

A fiction section at k5 would be great (mainly since it would take advantage of its user-base), but only if it was partly separate. Like the diary section, say, but different. The same way display preferences can be set to display new diaries, they could be set to display new work in the fiction section - but the section would have an edit queue (separate from the main one) rather than users posting whatever they want, as happens in diaries.

Easy to access from the main site, but easy to hide if you don't want it.

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It already exists. (4.60 / 5) (#36)
by crankie on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 07:18:54 AM EST

http://lit.hatori42.com/

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It already exists... See my sig! [NT] (none / 0) (#39)
by mcherm on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:25:42 AM EST



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I wish search worked (3.66 / 3) (#42)
by wiredog on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:38:26 AM EST

since I'm pretty sure we've had the "k5 needs fiction" meta story before.

Can't sleep. The clowns will get me.
Great way to get posters from "the other site (4.00 / 2) (#43)
by Master Of Ninja on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:39:32 AM EST

Think about it - fiction in the form of "Stories of a Porn Clerk". We'll get the posters from the other site posting their "erotic fiction" involving Taco, Rusty, hot grits and whatever perverseness (is that a word?) that comes to mind. For some reason I don't think it is that great an idea. I would think a dedicated site would be better for new poetry, fiction etc. Anybody know of such a site?

Well ... (none / 0) (#46)
by Herring on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 09:22:22 AM EST

There's a lot of it I could do without reading. Bank of America ATM - I want to buy the movie rights.


Say lol what again motherfucker, say lol what again, I dare you, no I double dare you
[ Parent ]
Has been tried, could try again (4.00 / 3) (#44)
by MickLinux on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 08:45:50 AM EST

I, at least, tried to post a cleaned up version of this fictional piece, under the name "Silence and Sight" on Kuro5hin.  

Maybe it was a tad too deep.  A lot of people did like it, about 3/4 did not understand it [the last 2-3 paragraphs are key] a lot of people didn't like it, eventually it went away.  

After that, I asked about it, and about 1/4 of the people kindof indicated that it just doesn't seem appropriate, others kindof yea'd or nay'd the idea, but it really didn't seem to jump forward.

I can see both pro and con reasons for it.  

I make a call to grace, for the alternative is more broken than you can imagine.

3 strikes I see (4.83 / 12) (#50)
by ennui on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 10:12:34 AM EST

First, diaries are probably an okay place for fiction without needing to start putting fiction through the queue. If you want to queue 'em, perhaps a MLP to "fiction I wrote" is the way to do it, especially if your skin is thick.

Second, any fiction longer than 3 pages I just can't read on a monitor, and I think most people are in a similar boat. Anything long and literary I generally download to my Palm which is easier on my eyes and allows reclining in an easy chair, but I probably wouldn't bother for amateur fiction off a website.

Finally, the majority of fiction on the Intarweb just sucks. I have read historical fiction that has enraged me, science fiction that has made me cry, and "erotica" that's made me want to kill myself. This Intarweb is covered with awkward, stilted dialog, cliche-laden paragraphs, contrived plot devices, uninteresting stories, characters with the depth of a paper doll, and poor styles ranging from weak echos of other writers' voices to haphazard jumbles of words that barely convince that the writer has a firm grasp of English. And that's the better stuff, the rest is thinly-veiled fan fiction or blatant ripoffs of other peoples' work. How in the world somebody can use characters like "Princess Leia" in "their" work and pass it off as "original" is completely and totally beyond me.

Hell, most published fiction, including bestsellers, generally doesn't flip my switches. Look at the "hardcover fiction" here (as of this date :) ), would you really want to sit and read any of these on your computer monitor? Most new fiction I've read has left me totally unsatisfied, I can't even finish most of what I pick up, and even the newer stuff I tend to like (like Tom Clancy's stuff) leaves me cringing throughout. Especially Mr. Clancy, several novels later and his dialog is still forced, his characters are either rehashes of his few base characters or flat stereotypes, and he uses the same devices in his stories. On the other hand, he's an easy read, the stories tend to be interesting, and you can sort of put your brain into neutral, you're not going to miss a trick. Same goes for Stephen King.

If there's a "fiction" section on k5, I fear it will turn into a writers' workshop sort of thing, and based on my observations of the amateur writers-helping-writers thing it just turns into a mutual admiration society of people who can't write stroking other people who can't write, and encourages goofy excercises like "write a story that happens in parallel with something else you've written" or "write two stories so the events of each effect each other." It's a waste of time, and lets people share an illusion of not being bad writers. If you have a story to tell, and it's of novel length, and you have a decent grasp of English, you can write it without the help of an amateur society, and silly exercises won't help.

Nick McDonell just sat down and wrote "Twelve." If you have a novel in you and you desire to make your daily bread as a "writer," just write it, and don't goof around posting it to weblogs or getting stroked by other unpublished writers, try to get an agent, send sample chapters to publishers, in short, sell it. If you're just goofing around, put it in your diary, post it to usenet, or whatever.

"You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone." -- Al Capone

Rating Fiction Is good (3.00 / 2) (#57)
by rf on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 01:41:53 PM EST

>Finally, the majority of fiction on the Intarweb just sucks.

All The more reason to have it on k5, let it get rated and put all the good stuff in one place.
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[ Parent ]
sounds familiar (none / 0) (#67)
by dazzle on Sat Aug 03, 2002 at 05:54:21 PM EST

'..observations of the amateur writers-helping-writers thing it just turns into a mutual admiration society of people who can't write stroking other people who can't write..'

'..It's a waste of time, and lets people share an illusion of not being bad writers..'

Sounds just like k5 to me

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[ Parent ]
... K5 ignorance appears again ... (3.00 / 2) (#69)
by dazzle on Sun Aug 04, 2002 at 05:14:49 AM EST

'..the rest is thinly-veiled fan fiction or blatant ripoffs of other peoples' work. How in the world somebody can use characters like "Princess Leia" in "their" work and pass it off as "original" is completely and totally beyond me. ..'

Fanfiction is in fact an example of intertextuality - a well known example of this is the Tom Stoppard play, 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead', - Hamlet re-written from the point of view of two minor characters.

Also alot of fanfic is written by children - perhaps they are learning a craft, namely writing, which will get better as they get older - TV stations hire script writers on the basis of scripts written about the characters in a particular TV show, getting to know the 'voice' of established characters in fanfic is perfect training for tomorrows script writers. But like anything, including K5, there is alot of crap amongst the flowers - it's just trying to find the nugget which makes it all worthwhile.

Most fiction is just the re-cycling of stories which have gone before anyway. Homer is just re-cycling tales. Shakespeare re-cycled stories. Now adays with the advent of copyright and laws and lawyers we call it plagirism whereas before it was known as creative licence. Are we more free now or then?

So before you deride something just because it doesn't interest you research the topic first and then perhaps you won't come across as ignorant. Remember the internet is the largest small-minded community there is.


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[ Parent ]
Ground rules (4.60 / 5) (#51)
by jmzero on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 11:08:01 AM EST

  1.  No "down-home wisdom" poetry.  In fact, no poetry.  Unless someone posts some and it turns out really good.
  2.  No "Rescue Rangers erotic fiction".  In fact, no kissy-kissy stuff altogether (assuming it involves cartoon chipmunks or Astroboy)
  3.  We all have to agree to severely limit the amount of fiction that makes it through the queue.  Only vote up fiction you actually read and enjoyed.  We may need several volunteers to vote down any and all fiction in order to preserve balance.  Nobody is allowed to complain about their fiction getting mauled in the queue.
Fiction has an amazing potential for quantity and suckitude.  Still, I think it should have a place here.
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"Let's not stir that bag of worms." - my lovely wife
Is There a K5 Ideas Forum? (3.00 / 1) (#52)
by xmarcus on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 11:08:36 AM EST

From time to time I have ideas, similar to this one, for K5.  Is there any "forum" I could post them to?

Three possible forums (none / 0) (#58)
by mcherm on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 01:47:22 PM EST

Two are right on this site. Post a meta K5 story (like the one you're commenting on!) and see what people say. Or post it to your diary (fewer comments, but won't get voted down -- probably start in the diary then make it a story).

And if your change would require coding new features into Scoop, then check out the scoop site.

-- Michael Chermside
[ Parent ]

I thought we already had fiction on K5 (2.50 / 2) (#60)
by Cro Magnon on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 04:00:17 PM EST

Just look at the Middle East articles! :)
Information wants to be beer.
Stories of a porn clerk (4.66 / 3) (#61)
by Fon2d2 on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 05:17:11 PM EST

are not fiction

new fiction isn't as good for sparking discussion (none / 0) (#63)
by tbc on Fri Aug 02, 2002 at 07:43:24 PM EST

Having said that, I'm still glad this poll is being taken. I'd like to read poetry and short stories at K5 (occasionally).

--

Here's a piece I put in my diary:

Choices: A short story about a man, his lover, his wife, and Dial soap.

Rated: PG

Porn trolls might want to visit xxxchurch.com instead. :-)


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