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kuro5hin.meetup.com

By joeyo in Meta
Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 01:52:34 AM EST
Tags: Kuro5hin.org (all tags)
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There has been much talk, both here and elsewhere, about online communities and their unique place in our modern life.  But for all that an online community can offer us, we often feel the urge to meet the physical selves of our online acquaintances. Unfortunately, it is challenging to organize any sort of get-together for a geographically dispersed group.  Enter meetup.com.


Historical Perspective
People have been meeting their online friends, offline, for as long as there has been an online.  From BBS get-togethers to 2600 meetings to the Mozilla 1.0.0 party, there is no lack of people desiring to meet that long-time online acquaintance and finally putting a face to that name.  

MEETUP
Meetup's stated goal is to make this process hassle-free.  It works something like this:


  1. Find a group of interest to you on meetup.com.

  2. Enter your email address and geographic information.

  3. Vote on a particular venue.

  4. Wait for the date of the meeting to arrive.

  5. Hope that other people show up.

Note that there is no need for a central organizer.  However, anyone can volunteer to be a host for a meetup.  Such a person would arrive early and help people find each other.  

Now, Meetup is a commercial entity, so you may want to consider the following before you sign-up:

Venues
Typically three candidate venues at each geographic location are presented for a vote.  The problem is that Meetup determines which venues are up for voting, not the end users.  This has led to problems in the past.  Meetup's  FAQ says:

We'll get paid by retailers that have good MEETUP spots (eg. cafes, bookstores, big pet stores, restaurants, videogame retailers) to "slot them in" to Venue Voting. Like any business, these companies will pay to increase traffic and sales. (Note: We never force a MEETUP to be at a particular venue. MEETUPs only happen at places that the people vote for.)

I don't think that most people will have a problem with this, but it does bear noting.  

Spam
While I have no evidence that meetup.com has ever spammed anyone (and their privacy policy does seem to prohibit it), spam is an ugly reality of giving out your email address. Further, Meetup says they are gathering aggregate information about you.  Proceed at your own risk.

Let's do it!
Kuro5hin users are assembling right now for a meetup at kuro5hin.meetup.com.   I encourage everyone to come and meet their peers from the trenches.  Maybe it can become a regular thing.  

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kuro5hin.meetup.com | 111 comments (93 topical, 18 editorial, 0 hidden)
Proposed Venues (4.70 / 10) (#2)
by Miniluv on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 01:54:53 PM EST

Rather than using meetup.com, and their shit interface, why don't people who're interested just post a city (if its not posted already) and a proposed venue and let others respond. Preferably first posted cities would have the city name spelled correctly in the subject so a simple search of the comments page would yield a match, and if it didn't then you could post a new meetup suggestion for that city without much risk of duplication.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
"Internal Server Error" (3.75 / 4) (#28)
by TON on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 06:17:59 PM EST

The site is unusable with Konqueror. I tried to submit a new venue using Mozilla. The thing crapped out on hitting submit. This was the third error I hit on meetup, so I think I'll leave it at that.

I agree that this might be easier to set up with a story and comments for cities. Even if city names get spelled wrong in the original post, they can be corrected in a comment and picked up by searching the page. K5 works; this meetup.com seems to be having troubles.

Ted
---
"I could say it stronger
But it's too much trouble"


[ Parent ]

Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nt) (2.66 / 3) (#5)
by Swashbuckler on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 02:04:28 PM EST




*Note* - this comment contains no inside K5 humour because inside K5 humour is only for/by K5-wankers. Media does not = "community."
at least ... (none / 0) (#21)
by Swashbuckler on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 03:51:42 PM EST

...give me a 5 for having a great sense of humoUr.


*Note* - this comment contains no inside K5 humour because inside K5 humour is only for/by K5-wankers. Media does not = "community."
[ Parent ]
Excuse my ignorance... (none / 0) (#56)
by kisielk on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 12:51:22 PM EST

but what was supposed to be humerous about that comment ?

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Talk, talk, it's only talk. Arguments, agreements, advice, answers, articulate announcements. It's all just talk."
- Elephant Talk, King Crimson


[ Parent ]
that.... (none / 0) (#94)
by Swashbuckler on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 12:09:35 PM EST

....someone would actually suggest that Ottawa is a desirable place to meetup... ya - I'm not funny:-(


*Note* - this comment contains no inside K5 humour because inside K5 humour is only for/by K5-wankers. Media does not = "community."
[ Parent ]
Awful, awful locations. (4.42 / 7) (#15)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 02:49:19 PM EST

I don't know much about meetup.com, but I just looked at the 3 location suggested for Springfield and Boston, MA. And they're all pretty bad.

Whole Donut in Springfield is pretty ratty. They have decent coffee, but it's really not the right place for anyone to have a meeting. Airway lanes is a bowling alley.. never been there, but again it's not in a great spot. Don't know about meeting there either. I doubt they'd let us go without bowling, and it's kind of noisy. Last there's a TGI Friday's, which I guess is ok.

Out of the 3 Boston locations, only one is actually in Boston. The other two would be a pain in the ass for anyone who doesn't have a car (many Bostonians don't). It's in Roxbury, past Northeastern so even that's not too close to downtown Beantown.. Cafe De Michel. Never heard of it..

Like others, I think this is a great idea but we should not use meetup.com. I'll RSVP for a Boston or Springfield location right now. I think a coffee place would be best, unless everyone is 21+ and agrees on a bar. How about a nice coffee bar on Newbury St. in Boston, or a place around Worthington St. in Springfield?

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jimmysquid.com - I take pictures.

north end (3.00 / 1) (#16)
by minus273 on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 02:56:51 PM EST

is probably the best place, that way we can filter out the non locals --anyone who cant find the way or the place -- :-P

[ Parent ]
Ah (none / 0) (#19)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 03:05:30 PM EST

What was I thinking? Of course we should go to the North End.. I can't get enough of that Italian coffee. Great idea.

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jimmysquid.com - I take pictures.
[ Parent ]
North end, here I come. (none / 0) (#25)
by ana on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 04:59:26 PM EST

Just lemme know where.

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

Possible venue? (none / 0) (#34)
by aidoneus on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 10:43:39 PM EST

Let's see how many people we can cram into the basement of Cafe Vittoria... :)  I love that place.

-jason

[ Parent ]

cool. (none / 0) (#46)
by ana on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:35:46 AM EST


Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

Never been there... (none / 0) (#50)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 10:42:51 AM EST

but if it's anything like Cafe Pompeii, I'm there. Does anyone know if Pompeii is still around? haven't been there in years. Great cannoli.

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jimmysquid.com - I take pictures.
[ Parent ]
yes (none / 0) (#96)
by Altus on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 02:05:10 PM EST

I belive it is... havent been there in a little while but Im pretty sure it is still there

Im up for a boston meet!

 
"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson
[ Parent ]

Cannoli (none / 0) (#102)
by clarioke on Fri Aug 09, 2002 at 02:00:28 PM EST

... yum...

[snaps back to the office from a lovely daydream about Italian pastries]

If people can't manage a good chat over Italian pastries, they aren't worth knowing.

peace
.c.

[ Parent ]

Me too (4.00 / 1) (#54)
by rusty on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 12:35:41 PM EST

I could probably make it to the North End. I looked at the Boston meetup locations too, and they were teh sukc.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
wanna carpool? (none / 0) (#106)
by rizzo242 on Sat Aug 10, 2002 at 07:42:31 PM EST

I sent you an email to this effect, but I figure you're more likely to read comment replies ;-)
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"Rambling diatribes are what make your diaries so interesting." -maroberts
"dude...you fucking rule!" -Oxymoron
[ Parent ]
date/time? n/t (none / 0) (#75)
by winthrop on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 07:45:09 PM EST



[ Parent ]
I'd go (nt) (none / 0) (#83)
by DJBongHit on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 03:57:53 AM EST



~DJBongHit

--
GNU GPL: Free as in herpes.

[ Parent ]
me too (nt) (none / 0) (#92)
by dinkum on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 10:47:36 AM EST



[ Parent ]
Let's do it. (none / 0) (#107)
by ana on Sun Aug 11, 2002 at 05:19:33 PM EST

I've posted more details about the place in my diary. Please come! Or leave me a message here or there, so we'll know when everybody's arrived.

Years go by; will I still be waiting
for somebody else to understand?
--Tori Amos

[ Parent ]

heh (none / 0) (#33)
by minus273 on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 10:01:23 PM EST

i cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not.. but it would be funny if we actually agreed on something

[ Parent ]
No sarcasm (none / 0) (#49)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 10:40:15 AM EST

No sarcasm, I swear! The north end has some great cafes and I think it's a good idea to meet up there.

--
jimmysquid.com - I take pictures.
[ Parent ]
same here (san jose) (none / 0) (#82)
by strlen on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 03:40:37 AM EST

the locations for san jose are pretty awfull. starbucks in the 'ghetto' part of the city, where honestly, i wouldn't feel safe sitting outside. billiard house in down town on first street.. also not a great place, will be way too busy to locate any new people. seriously if we were to gold a san jose k5 gtg i know tons of better locations.

--
[T]he strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone. - Henrik Ibsen.
[ Parent ]
Yeah, really (none / 0) (#103)
by ucblockhead on Fri Aug 09, 2002 at 03:46:53 PM EST

Two decent microbrew/bars within a couple miles of my house, and meetup wants me to drive thirty miles to a Starbucks...
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This is k5. We're all tools - duxup
[ Parent ]
Hey joeyo... (3.00 / 1) (#17)
by pb on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 02:59:13 PM EST

How did the Mozilla Party go, I missed that one. I'll try to make it to one of these "Meetup" things before I flee to NJ...
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Actually, (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by joeyo on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 03:03:35 PM EST

I missed it too.  I hear it went okay.

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Sure, Dubya has the brainpower of a muppet, but this fuss over terms is rediculous. -- Parent ]

Chicago (city and suburbs) (4.00 / 2) (#20)
by Miniluv on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 03:21:47 PM EST

Chicago meetup, if folks are interested, proposed location. I'd suggest somewhere either in the loop or on the north side (Wrigleyville area) as both are readily accesible by public transportation and POVs. In Wrigleyville I'd say maybe Salt & Pepper (I think on Clark, near Belmont) if its still open. Or, for a bar, there's always the Cubby Bear (right across from Wrigley) or the Maproom (can't remember the location, will find out) which has an awesome beer selection. In the loop I'm kind of at a loss for ideas, however I'd be welcome to suggestions, though most places close up pretty early.

I'd also suggest a suburban meetup, maybe in the NW burbs? If so, if people don't mind a pub setting the Curragh would be great. Good beer, stuff for the under 21 crowd, decent food and reasonable prices. Oh yeah, and a mostly Irish staff (which means cute chicks with cute accents).

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown

The problem... (none / 0) (#31)
by bayankaran on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 09:13:55 PM EST

...with bars is that they are too loud...especially Maproom. People will be shouting at each other and wont understand anything.

I am tempted to suggest Admiral Theater in Lawrence and Pulaski?

There is a bar in Irving Park (close to Levitt), I think it was Donovan's - they have nice outdoor space...but it is not close to CTA trains.

[ Parent ]
The Admiral? (none / 0) (#51)
by Miniluv on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 11:25:52 AM EST

As in, the gentleman's club? Somehow I don't think that'd be quite appropriate, and probably just as loud.

I agree that the maproom would probably be too loud. The problem with trying to meet in the city is so few places have outdoor seating, which is much more likely to be reasonable on noise, smoke free enough for non-smokers to be comfortable, etc.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]

For more info (none / 0) (#108)
by Miniluv on Wed Aug 14, 2002 at 02:16:42 PM EST

Please see this diary. I'm replying here in hopes of you seeing it and not missing out if you care to attend.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]
New (none / 0) (#47)
by br284 on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:47:52 AM EST

I'm new to the area, thus my suggestions are few.

However, if you'd like to put one together, I'll show up.

-Chris

[ Parent ]

See my diary (none / 0) (#109)
by Miniluv on Wed Aug 14, 2002 at 02:17:52 PM EST

My most recent, as of this moment, diary entry has details about location and a proposed date.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]
sure (none / 0) (#57)
by zavyman on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 01:45:42 PM EST

I'd second the Curragh suggestion.  Although I've never been there, it seems relatively easy to get to for people in the (western) 'burbs

[ Parent ]
Ok then (none / 0) (#58)
by Miniluv on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 01:56:11 PM EST

I'm willing to go, as well as make arrangements with the Curragh, if at least four other people will agree to show up.

Here's the attempt at unbiased info on the Curragh to save people the effort of following my earlier link.

Located on Woodfield Rd (technically the perimeter drive of Woodfield Mall, south side of the mall, across the parking lot from Sears/California Cafe) in Schaumburg. Irish style pub, operated by an actual Irishman, with a mostly Irish fair menu. Excellent food, including outstanding Shepherds Pie, Beef and Guinness Stew, and boxtys. Beer selection is superb, with Guinness, Bass, Harp, Killarneys, Stella Artois, and several others on tap, plus a decent selection in bottles. Bartender actually makes a good Black and Tan, in addition to quite a few other specialty beer drinks.

They are a little on the pricey side if you're ordering food, however their beer prices are in line with other area pub/bar&restaurant type places (a.k.a. Bennigans/Ruby Tuesdays/RAM/Rock Bottom).

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]

Trains (none / 0) (#76)
by br284 on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 07:56:12 PM EST

Alas, I'm only on foot or on train/bus. Is this location accessible?

-Chris

[ Parent ]

Where from? (none / 0) (#90)
by Miniluv on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 10:23:51 AM EST

Depending on where you live, its probably one of the only train/bus/foot accesible locations in the suburbs.

Coming from the city, take transportation to Metra and take the Milwaukee District West (Elgin-Big Timber Line) to the Schaumburg station. From there take the bus to the main schaumburg bus stop, and then take the shopping trolly to Woodfield. From there you'll need to hoof it, but that's a relatively minor walk.

From other parts of the burbs just take a pace bus to the schaumburg station (easier said than done) and then follow the trolly instructions above.

Or we can try and find out who else is around here and maybe you could hitch a ride.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]

diary? (none / 0) (#93)
by zavyman on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 11:08:12 AM EST

Perhaps a diary entry might be in order to centralize the conversation and hopefully get a tally.  If at least four express interest in meeting, it could work.

[ Parent ]
See my diary (none / 0) (#110)
by Miniluv on Wed Aug 14, 2002 at 02:18:41 PM EST

I took your suggestion, seems that not everyone had the chance to notice it with diary scroll being what it is. Check it out here.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]
Curragh is good (none / 0) (#97)
by fencepost on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 02:39:40 PM EST

I'm likely to be there, with exceptions for being out of town (not until September), Saturday gaming conflicts (e.g. GenCon this weekend), or dates (hey, anything can happen).
--
"nothing really says "don't hire me, I'm an idiot" quite as well as misspelling "pom-pom" on your resume." -- former Grinnellian
[ Parent ]
that's closer than anything else I've seen... (none / 0) (#89)
by Shren on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 07:21:39 AM EST

But mapquest still says I'm about 400 miles away.

[ Parent ]

I'm going to be in Montréal (4.33 / 3) (#22)
by ODiV on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 03:59:34 PM EST

for 7 weeks, if all goes well. I'll be there starting September 8th.

I've got a car so I might try to meet people in Ottawa too, but I'm probably going to be super busy editing, so we'll see.

Should I sign up for the Montréal meetings on meetup.com, or have we decided that the website is crap? Anyone else in Montréal or Ottawa and want to meet up?

--
[ odiv.net ]
Ottawa, I'm game. (none / 0) (#42)
by Jehreg on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 07:54:10 AM EST

There are *many* good meeting places in Ottawa.

[ Parent ]
Ottawa! (none / 0) (#62)
by Nikau on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 03:48:50 PM EST

What places did you have in mind? If it's anywhere but downtown/Market area, you can certainly count me in...

Actually, here's an idea: let's arrange a meeting at the same time and place as the next meeting of that other site here in Ottawa and heckle 'em. :)

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I have a zero-tolerance policy for zero-tolerance policies, and this policy itself is the exception to itself which allows me to have it without being contradictory. - Happy Monkey
[ Parent ]

Steel Cage Match! (none / 0) (#71)
by rusty on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 05:30:30 PM EST

Actually, here's an idea: let's arrange a meeting at the same time and place as the next meeting of that other site here in Ottawa and heckle 'em. :)

Steel Cage Match: Dorks vs. Nerds!

And no, I'm not telling you which is us and which is them. ;-)

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

I'll get my dice ready! (nt) (none / 0) (#73)
by ODiV on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 06:55:13 PM EST



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[ odiv.net ]
[ Parent ]
Denver (4.00 / 4) (#24)
by tbc on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 04:03:40 PM EST

Date & time still TBD.

London k5 meetups (5.00 / 6) (#26)
by spiralx on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 06:07:19 PM EST

As far as I can remember there's already been about half a dozen meetups here in London between k5 members, and that excludes the numerous times some of us will go out for a drink or go out clubbing together. Then again, it does appear that the density of k5ers here is much higher than everywhere else... although you'd have thought that in somewhere like New York or LA there'd be as many. IIRC there were 22 of us at the last meet, and that was with a few people not showing. And I can still think of another dozen posters from London.

You're doomed, I'm doomed, we're all doomed for ice cream. - Bob Aboey

Yes (none / 0) (#44)
by bc on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 08:08:34 AM EST

Well, see, the New York and LA types are so incredibly social that they don't even browse the internet - life is an endless party for them. Any LA or NY k5ers don't have time to browse k5 and write diaries about it - they are out there.

The fact that the London crowd are on the internet talking about it all the time shows how antisocial they really are, IMO.

♥, bc.
[ Parent ]

Alas! (none / 0) (#53)
by kaemaril on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 12:26:41 PM EST

I don't know of any other K5'ers in Milton Keynes. Anybody? Anybody?

Special fx: tumbleweed drifts slowly across screen...


Why, yes, I am being sarcastic. Why do you ask?


[ Parent ]
Yup (none / 0) (#60)
by spiralx on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 02:41:49 PM EST

jackherer and power tiger come from that way.

You're doomed, I'm doomed, we're all doomed for ice cream. - Bob Aboey
[ Parent ]

Why not (5.00 / 4) (#27)
by sypher on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 06:10:35 PM EST

Just add a page to this site to achieve this? K5 has all our details anyhoo.

I looked at the meetup site, but its not doing anything that couldnt be organised here i dont think, i only looked at the overview mind, didnt sign up.

I dreamt of it once, now I fear it dreams of me
Oakland locations are terrible (4.00 / 1) (#30)
by CarryTheZero on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 07:27:05 PM EST

Starbucks in San Ramon? Right. I have to agree with everyone else. Good idea, but meetup.com is lame.

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raise your hand (none / 0) (#88)
by Shren on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 07:17:02 AM EST

Raise your hand if you think that the "meetup locations" pay something like 10 bucks to get listed. I'd sell my apartment as a bar and grill if it didn't have Apt 9 attached to the address.

[ Parent ]
Yeah (none / 0) (#111)
by jacoplane on Mon Aug 19, 2002 at 08:29:20 PM EST

In Amsterdam two out of three proposed locations for the slashdot meetup are McDonalds!!!

[ Parent ]
am I the only one. . . (4.50 / 2) (#32)
by moron on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 09:18:03 PM EST

that thinks this is kind of creepy?

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music: http://deterrent.net
code: http://codegrunt.com

Explain (4.00 / 1) (#39)
by Spendocrat on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 01:46:06 AM EST

What are your reasons for finding it creepy?

[ Parent ]
reunion of strangers (none / 0) (#64)
by moron on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 04:35:32 PM EST

This kind of get together creeps me out for at least a couple of reasons.  

First off, http://kuro5hin.org acts as forum and media outlet for me (which rocks) but that does not mean that I want to make a singles club out of it nor do I necessarily feel safe making my face known to complete strangers.  Anyone that I have exchanges with and affinities toward enough to want to meet IRL I would contact on my own.  It's like when you work in a public service job and people who see you at work suddenly consider you their friend when they see you on the street.  Just because you offer professional courtesy does mean that you are buddies.  This is not snobbishness or any such thing, it is about space and privacy.  You HAVE to be nice at work even if you thoroughly dislike someone.  A mass meet creates similar problems since we are not all happy shiny people and we are not all friends.  We are citizens of an online community which is something very different.

Secondly, having taken an administrative role in an old online chat room I can definitely say that there are no shortages of undesirables out there (surprise).  These types of events are as likely to attract them as anyone else and thus I see them as "creep magnets" for the socially inept, those sans life or outright crazy.  I have nothing against people acting as a support group for each other but the meet is not being promoted for that purpose.    

Together, these two aspects mean that not only do you lose your IRL privacy (since now the gun toting thelizman will know exactly who called him a nasty name for example), you also greatly increase your risk of being glommed onto by a nutbar or deviant.  Kuro5hin is just too big for this type of thing.  With a small mailing list this might be different but when you are talking about a site that raises 30 grand in a few days, that's a world of creep waiting to glom.

=)

Cheers

--
culture: http://industrial.org
music: http://deterrent.net
code: http://codegrunt.com

[ Parent ]

bop them upside the head (5.00 / 1) (#84)
by adiffer on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 04:01:45 AM EST

I would hope some of us will have the strength of character to bop some people in the head if they are too creepy.  It doesn't always take a physical bop to discourage such people from showing up again.

These events may turn sour or sweet.  Those are the risks we take with direct interaction.  For some, it will be worth it.

-Dream Big.
--Grow Up.
[ Parent ]

like, no way (3.75 / 4) (#35)
by demi on Tue Aug 06, 2002 at 10:53:52 PM EST

one would think this was a junior high school dance with the way you all are acting.

let me guess, (none / 0) (#38)
by ODiV on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 01:29:48 AM EST

you're the metalhead outside smoking tea leaves?

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[ odiv.net ]
[ Parent ]
come on, try it (none / 0) (#40)
by demi on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 01:59:32 AM EST

it'll make you feel good...

[ Parent ]
This is because (none / 0) (#100)
by bobjim on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 07:32:26 PM EST

Everyone wants the chance to pick up the hot kuro5hin chicks.
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"I know your type quite well. Physically weak and intellectually stunted. Full of resentment against women." - Medham, talking about me.
[ Parent ]
-1, Nobody's in my vicinity anyway (3.00 / 1) (#41)
by Vs on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 06:45:15 AM EST

Or it's difficult too find out, they only list Hamburg and Berlin in Germany, which are about as far as it can get.

Throw in Munich and draw a circle through these cities, in the center you'll find my neck of the woods ;)

[With apologies to any geographers out there]
--
Where are the immoderate submissions?

But there are some germans at kuro5hin (5.00 / 1) (#86)
by nefertari on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 05:22:50 AM EST

For example myself, I am from Bielefeld, which is more or less in the middle of Germany.

There was also another article, where you should enter your location, for every continent there was a thread, then subthreads for every country etc.

I found it, it is here. There was even someone from Bonn. Good luck!



[ Parent ]
Just do this (5.00 / 1) (#43)
by anylulu on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 08:04:47 AM EST

Set it up. No one is stopping you. Then announce it on K5 and see who's interested. I'd be - but then again I'm in Helsinki. Not likely that there would be too many of us... but you never know.
-- peace, love and anylulu http://www.anylulu.com
Why I hate off-line meetups... (4.00 / 1) (#45)
by rleyton on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:00:40 AM EST

Ok, i've not done an off-line meet of on-line associates for years, but the last time I met up with some people i'd met online (via an Abermud I played years ago) it was a scary experience.

Why? Everybody was rather excited for a start (perhaps except me, who was nervous).

Then, everybody insisted on calling me by my characters name (Tanis, if you must know), which I hated.

The conversation stuck pretty much to the sort of things that was discussed in the system, so hardly an enlightening experience.

And to top it all off, I couldn't then avoid them around the University. Not altogether bad, in the long run, I got to know one of them rather well (ironically after getting rat-arsed on a stag do for a mutual friend some years later).

Assure me that this sort of thing doesn't go on at k5 meets, and I might be persuaded to attend one. But I might insist on lurking by the bar first. I'm a firm believer in ensuring bars are properly propped up anyway ;-)

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Suggestion: (5.00 / 1) (#48)
by ennui on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:54:51 AM EST

Why doesn't K5 support a K5 Konvention, get sponsors, and plan Events. Rusty can give a keynote address about effective search engines for weblogs, hurstdog can do a speech along the lines of "use ripped; Staying in Top Physical Shape while Programming Perl," and Farl can wander around taking pictures and pretending he still maintains the FAQ.

We kbots can get together whenever we feel like, we really long to rub elbows with the Movers and Shakers of K5, the Founder and his minions. We long to extend the glad hand to these individuals, and say to each in turn "Thank you for letting me be myself, again" or "Thank you for revolutionizing mass media" or "Hey, nice hat!"

Fie on these silly gatherings of the few at donut shops and bowling alleys, give us Kuro5Con!

"You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone." -- Al Capone

A different idea (5.00 / 6) (#55)
by rusty on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 12:41:33 PM EST

A lot of people seem to not like meetup.com, either in theory, or in practice. Metafilter just had their first meetup, and the general consensus was that no one was happy with how it went.

What I was thinking is, why not just let you make email lists for cities, and have listmembers arrange your own get-togethers? Locals always know the best places to hang out anyway, and the list itself could turn out to be a useful thing.

If the lazy K5 admins got off our asses and put together an easy web interface to either find an existing city list or create a new one, would you use it?

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Not the real rusty

YES! (none / 0) (#59)
by Miniluv on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 02:00:51 PM EST

This is even better than how I suggested doing it. I'd volunteer to help setup the Chicago list, finding places to go and so on.

What I think would be even better than a straight "beer meet" theme would be a sort of K5 Social Club (a la the many "Sport and Social Club" type things big cities have). Each list can be autonomous, group run, blah blah blah. If Denver wants to do bowling this month but Seattle is all about a pot soaked orgy, thats cool.

So, short answer, yes please.

"Too much wasabi and you'll be crying like you did at the last ten minutes of The Terminator" - Alton Brown
[ Parent ]

hells yes... (none / 0) (#61)
by joeyo on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 03:25:00 PM EST

Actually if there was an (optional) location field in user info (and a checkbox for, "i want to be contacted about local k5 chapter meetings") it would prolly be hella easy to organize too.

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Yes (none / 0) (#63)
by Delirium on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 04:18:57 PM EST

Meetup also seems to like scheduling thousands of little meetings as close to your location as possible. While this works if you have a ton of people, with k5 it'll be more likely to end up with a lot of 2-people (or 1-person) meetings within 10-15 miles of each other. It'd be better to have someone with some organizations skills organize a meeting for a larger area (say the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area, rather than merely Pomona, CA) and then try to get people to attend.

[ Parent ]
Yeah (none / 0) (#70)
by rusty on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 05:25:37 PM EST

Like, for example, instead of having a separate Portland meetup, where me and rizzo242 hang out, I'd probably just go to the Boston one. I assume that, in fact, basically all New England K5ers would just go to the Boston one. Hence a mailing list solution would be much more flexible, because we could just make a "new_england@lists.kuro5hin.org".

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[ Parent ]
See you there (nt) (none / 0) (#78)
by ennui on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:11:47 PM EST



"You can get a lot more done with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone." -- Al Capone
[ Parent ]
Looking forward to it (nt) (none / 0) (#79)
by ubu on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:13:06 PM EST


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[ Parent ]
yes, give us a check box! (none / 0) (#65)
by invisiblemonki on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 04:50:31 PM EST

wonderful idea. lets be able to opt into geographic sorting so we can meet our peers.  for people in hawaii, like myself, it would be a big help.  It would also give some alternative to trolling the chat rooms when you're going on vacation.  I'd much rather meet at a coffee shop and spout philosophy on vacaiton than meet up for anonymous sex.... wait...  maybe both.
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[ Parent ]
Yup. (none / 0) (#67)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 05:15:10 PM EST

Would definitely use that. Also, who picks the date? Are we going to use the date on meetup.com? (who picked that one anyway)

It might be cute if all the gatherings were on the same day (wireless IM, and other communications possibilities). I don't know if that's necessary though..

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[ Parent ]

The listmembers? (none / 0) (#69)
by rusty on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 05:23:37 PM EST

My thinking was that it would simply be a concensus process amongst listmembers. That is, someone says "Let's get together on Tuesday the elevnteenth" and everyone else yeas or nays. Or some such loose process.

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[ Parent ]
Options for voting (none / 0) (#80)
by Eloquence on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 02:24:42 AM EST

  • iCalendar files - don't know how widespread these are.
  • Post a poll in a diary and let people vote there.
  • exchange.kuro5hin.org ;-)

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[ Parent ]
Oooh! Also... (none / 0) (#77)
by ubu on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 09:09:05 PM EST

If the lazy K5 admins got off our asses and put together an easy web interface to either find an existing city list or create a new one, would you use it?

As long as we're dreaming, let's suppose you put a search engine on the front of it, too.

Nah, tell you what. Let's get our current "big programming projects" finished before we start making up new ones for the lazy K5 admins.

Ubu


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[ Parent ]
Diaries (none / 0) (#87)
by Merekat on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 05:29:14 AM EST

We've usually used the diary section when trying to organise a night out, just to catch people's attention, with a mailinglist in case k5 goes down (which funnily enough it has a few times I've been trying to meet the Londoners) and also for details that you don't necessarily want to be publicly acessible.

If you keep it purely mailing-list based, you risk missing new people in your area who initially decided not to sign up and then forgot about it.
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[ Parent ]

A combo? (none / 0) (#95)
by rusty on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 01:46:11 PM EST

Perhaps we can work out a good way to make firmly-planned meetings more public on the site? A section, or something? Let me work out the mailing list stuff first.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
Please! (none / 0) (#91)
by floydian on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 10:31:32 AM EST

<accent=connery> Would you, Rusty old boy? </accent>

[ Parent ]
meetup.com in (2.00 / 1) (#66)
by 5pectre on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 04:57:35 PM EST

... distinct lack of welsh locations *unshocker*

"Let us kill the English, their concept of individual rights might undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!!" - Lisa Simpson [ -1.50 / -7.74]

*shocker*??? (none / 0) (#85)
by lanfa on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 04:59:11 AM EST

Feeling kind of used to Wales not exisiting, even though I live in the principality capital. I'm sure it's on the map.

How I used to never care though when I was in Aberystwyth... sea, alcohol and rain... Oh! How I didn't care.


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[ Parent ]
on the map (3.00 / 1) (#105)
by 5pectre on Sat Aug 10, 2002 at 05:17:01 AM EST

... but not according to meetup.com :)

"Let us kill the English, their concept of individual rights might undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!!" - Lisa Simpson [ -1.50 / -7.74]

[ Parent ]
Meeting locations (none / 0) (#104)
by ucblockhead on Fri Aug 09, 2002 at 03:50:11 PM EST

Given the meetup suggestions it suggested near mean, I would presume that you have no "Starbucks" in Wales.
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[ Parent ]
Idea (4.00 / 1) (#68)
by CaptainSuperBoy on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 05:18:43 PM EST

Everyone who has one, should wear a shirt from a failed, dot-com, former employer. I've got mine: eCal.com - The Internet Calendar Company!

Actually that looks like a pretty lame idea in print. But who knows, maybe we are all pretty lame people?

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Don't get out of hand (2.00 / 1) (#72)
by medham on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 06:35:14 PM EST

These type of activities will ruin the community. It thrives on non-regionalism and virtual identities.

The real 'medham' has userid 6831.

Hello. (5.00 / 2) (#74)
by qpt on Wed Aug 07, 2002 at 07:15:08 PM EST

Will you be my friend? We can meet for coffee.

Domine Deus, creator coeli et terrae respice humilitatem nostram.
[ Parent ]

Wow (3.00 / 1) (#81)
by Pseudonym on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 03:18:40 AM EST

What an eclectic mix.

Other MEETUP Topics Popular with K5ers

  • Slashdot
  • LiveJournal
  • Fark
  • Learning Japanese
  • PHP
  • Anarchy
  • Composers
  • Ex-Jehovah's Witness
  • iPod
  • Anime


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This failed.... (none / 0) (#98)
by psyconaut on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 04:07:09 PM EST

....on the whole for Slashdot users....why would K5 users fair that much better?

I'm all for folk getting together, but I think most people flake out at the last minute. K5 is non-relatime....getting your ass to a specified meeting point after a hard day @ work or playing GTA3 is very much realtime.

-psyco

Wow... what a location selection (none / 0) (#99)
by The Solitaire on Thu Aug 08, 2002 at 04:13:58 PM EST

Just looked at the Vancouver, BC locations, and lo and behold, we have the selection from three wonderful locations!

  • The Sugar Refinery
  • The Jupiter Cafe
  • The Jupiter Cafe
Is it me, or do two of those look awfully similar... hmm... yep, they have the same address. And I've never even heard of The Sugar Refinery... I really hope that it's intended to be a clever cafe name or something. Nothing like the smell of molasses and the sound of centrifuges to get a conversation started. :)

You know, when I went to the site, I really thought this would be a good idea... Actually, it is a good idea... just very poorly excecuted. I'm really starting to get the feeling that the Internet is just a vast wasteland of reasonably good ideas completely mangled by wickedly poor planning. Well... maybe "starting" isn't the right word...

I need a new sig.

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