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K5 Roll Call: You still reading? If so, why?

By Graeme Rasputin in Meta
Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 12:55:30 PM EST
Tags: meta, he's dead, Jim (all tags)

Looking around the queue, I see a remarkable number of old-timers (by which I mean people who were around in 2003-2004, when everyone claims to have stopped reading) still voting on stories.

I gotta say, what the hell? Why are you still here, even if only occasionally?

Seriously, I'm kind of interested.


So the deal is, if you've been around for like 5+ years and read this, you have to comment below and explain yourself. No comments involving some variant of "It's like a big car crash... I just can't look away!!"

For myself, I just keep wondering when I'm going to come back and find the hosting has finally dried up or rusty ran into the problem that was just too annoying to be worth fixing and the place is gone. Of course, the perennial K5 triumphalists who, in spite of everything, continue to claim that K5 is merely dying a lingering death are good for a chuckle as well.

Anyway, get in there. What's your story?

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shut up (2.36 / 11) (#3)
by lostincali on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:01:48 AM EST


"The least busy day [at McDonalds] is Monday, and then sales increase throughout the week, I guess as enthusiasm for life dwindles."

I've been here almost three years. (2.35 / 14) (#4)
by Brogdel on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:02:34 AM EST

so I'm not really in the group you want, but fuck you anyway. I come here because, for some reason, people at K5 like to hear the ramblings of an alcoholic drug-addicted piece of poor white trash.

who the fuck (1.10 / 10) (#5)
by yellow shark on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:02:50 AM EST

are you?

this submission doesnt count either.

Kuro5hin's immense Google Juice (1.63 / 11) (#6)
by MichaelCrawford on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:12:03 AM EST

... allows my essays on mental illness to reach more readers than would be the case if I only hosted them on my own website.


--

Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


do a search on google for pygrub (1.66 / 3) (#64)
by Morally Inflexible on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:43:58 PM EST

the first hit is a diary about how PyGrub was broken in the Debian xen build in 2007.  (so long ago.  the ribs place I was talking about is out of business and a squatter owns the domain now)  

So yeah, blogs broke google.  

(well, that and documentation for PyGrub really is pretty thin.)  

[ Parent ]

Similar reason (2.40 / 5) (#101)
by anaesthetica on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:10:36 PM EST

I don't a fuck about k5's pagerank, but k5 is the only place where I can publish an occasional article.  I had a blog from 1999-2004, but it was personal stuff, not somewhere I could write articles about firefox/mozilla or ayn rand's retardation or how The Dark Knight is actually a capitalist conspiracy.  

The value-added here is having an automatic readership.  On a blog, it's egocentric and you have to build a readership around your ego-tastic self.  At k5, you have an automatic readership, so things are not as ego-driven, and the current crop of users are pretty good at deflating any pretensions to ego amongst the weak.

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
so k5 is your blog? (1.00 / 2) (#180)
by bride of spidy on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 11:10:44 PM EST

is it?

[ Parent ]
Yeah, this and the Vancouver Diaries (none / 1) (#214)
by MichaelCrawford on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 09:57:31 AM EST

But I haven't posted anything at the vancouver diaries in several months.


--

Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


[ Parent ]

Low cost, occasional value (2.62 / 8) (#7)
by localman on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:13:21 AM EST

I've been here since 2001.

I come by every couple months to see the handful of newly posted stories.  On those visits there's something interesting often enough that I remember to come back a few months later to look again.  I agree with the common opinion that things are degrading, though.

There are some entertaining personalities here, even though I generally find the discussion to be tiresomely loaded with a puffed up geek-machismo that turns me off.  And it seems to turn off most newcomers as well.

The in-jokes that have become increasingly dominant in the submission queue are boring to all but a very few.  The $5 new signup fee (is that incomprehensible policy still in effect?) seems to have killed the new blood that would feed an evolving community.

I think k5 had a unique voice.  I was curious where it was going but it's stalled and almost petered out.  I still like the echos enough to come back until they finally board things up.  I suppose this is what happens when a culture tries too hard to preserve itself in stasis.

same here (2.25 / 4) (#11)
by regeya on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:43:08 AM EST

whatever relevance it had left with the deluge of 'American Empire' posts followed by a barrage of nonsense. Nowadays it's just a place a few people come to post racist nonsense.

[ yokelpunk | kuro5hin diary ]
[ Parent ]

FUCK YOU MY COCK HAS A NIGGER ROOSTER ON IT1!! (2.25 / 4) (#31)
by Wain on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:31:00 PM EST

nt.

[ Parent ]
yeah.. (none / 1) (#297)
by ignatiusst on Mon Mar 02, 2009 at 12:43:41 PM EST

.. this comment pretty much sums up why I don't come around any more...

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift
[ Parent ]

the high probability (2.95 / 20) (#8)
by osm on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:22:39 AM EST

of a complete and spectacular michael crawford meltdown keeps me coming back.

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4thelulz.org

at least he inspires you (1.50 / 2) (#12)
by Blarney on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:44:03 AM EST

It's almost like Ogg Frog is your new copyright undistributable open source Natalie Portman and Drew Barrymore on your laptop. Damn, that WAS funny. And IS.

I've just had the most craziest idea ever. What if we all pitched in and helped write Ogg Frog with Michael? You know, one of us could do icons, another of us could do little beepy noises for the UI, one of us could write the manual, all that. Kind of like that book Stone Soup.

[ Parent ]

I do plan to open up the development (none / 1) (#14)
by MichaelCrawford on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:24:14 AM EST

... but not until it's at alpha test. One of the reasons I'm keeping it private is so that I'm free to rip up and refactor it when I feel that it's necessary to do so.

But once I lay a stable foundation, I will open it up.


--

Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


[ Parent ]

You intend to be HYPERMAN 2 (2.57 / 7) (#46)
by it certainly is on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 04:47:56 PM EST

Project Xanadu is still vaporware, years after the WWW became the dominant form of hypertext. Sure, it tackles the problems that WWW has no answer for. But trying to be feature-complete before the first release is why it's over 30 years late, and completely irrelevant. The remaining programmer doesn't even know why he's still writing it.
Finally, we made it to the end of the tale. There was only one remaining question, and it seemed both obvious and cruel. His project had promised an end to forgetting, but in the end, only Gregory had been unable to forget. The deluge of information had arrived. The other programmers had drifted away. Only Gregory remained with his fingers on the broken Xanadu machine.

"Why?" I asked.

"Total insanity," Gregory answered, both hands squeezing his face.



kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

The first release won't have many features (none / 1) (#75)
by MichaelCrawford on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:58:00 AM EST

Ogg Frog won't actually be feature complete until Release 2.0. It will have gone through several public releases before then.


--

Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


[ Parent ]

It's like reading Valis $ (1.50 / 2) (#107)
by Phssthpok on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:46:08 PM EST


____________

affective flattening has caused me to kill 11,357 people

[ Parent ]
I tried to get out (1.00 / 5) (#9)
by Troll Hard on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:38:19 AM EST

but they kept pulling me back in.

I left for like six months or something, and then other K5 members started to troll me at Slashdot, Facebook, and other web sites until I finally came back to K5 and they stopped trolling me at those places.

I keep trying to get out and quit, but they stalk me all over the Internets. Then when I return here, they zero rate my comments and then giggle about it in some IRC chatroom like gay cheerleaders for some retarded sport like curling.

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Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! Mind over Matter Fringe Science for the win!

So you ARE Orion Blastar! (none / 1) (#20)
by Wen Jian on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:59:46 AM EST

I KNEW it!
It was an experiment in lulz. - Rusty
[ Parent ]
Maybe that is what I want you to think? (1.00 / 6) (#22)
by Troll Hard on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 08:28:12 AM EST

If so, you just bit the troll! Hee hee haw haw!

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Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! Mind over Matter Fringe Science for the win!
[ Parent ]
Yep, you're definitely Orion Blaster (1.00 / 3) (#24)
by Wen Jian on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 09:28:06 AM EST


It was an experiment in lulz. - Rusty
[ Parent ]
awwww! You're popular! (none / 0) (#32)
by Wain on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:32:10 PM EST

You should kill yourself again.

[ Parent ]
don't even fucking know (2.33 / 6) (#10)
by Blarney on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:43:18 AM EST

Perhaps there will be a half decent story one of these days. Or perhaps not. Maybe Rusty will drop the $5 thing, some story will make a big hit, and K5 will be hopping again. Or not. Don't really care at this point.

Maybe I just want to know if Ogg Frog will ever be released. That seems to be the current plot point.

Recording my excellence for posterity /nt (2.00 / 4) (#13)
by MotorMachineMercenary on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:00:02 AM EST


--
MMM, tenured K5 uberdouchebag
- Herr mirleid


A couple years ago, I said: (2.57 / 7) (#15)
by Keepiru on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:58:16 AM EST

Those of us left here are the ones who refuse to admit that the party's long since over, the sun's rising, and it's time to go home.

The way I see K5 these days is as a monument to something that was a truly great phenomenon. Stories like this bring a few of us back every now and then to hold a reunion, have a cheap laugh, and then go back to the other places we've moved on to.

From here

Quick, obvious question..... (2.66 / 9) (#26)
by Sgt York on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:11:57 AM EST

...then go back to the other places we've moved on to.
such as....?

The main reason I haven't left yet is the lack of a decent alternative.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.
[ Parent ]

+1FP (1.50 / 2) (#28)
by jandev on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 12:16:45 PM EST


"ENGINEERS" IS NOT POSSESSIVE. IT'S A PLURAL. YOU DO NOT MOTHERFUCKING MARK A PLURAL WITH A COCKSUCKING APOSTROPHE. APOSTROPHES ARE FOR MARKING POSSESSIVES IN THIS CASE. IF YOU WEREN'T A TOTAL MORON, YOU WOULD BE SAYING SOMETHING LIKE "THE CIVIL ENGINEER'S SMALL PENIS". SEE THAT APOSTROPHE? IT'S A HAPPY APOSTROPHE. IT'S NOT BEING ABUSED BY SOME GODDAMN SHIT-FOR-BRAINS IDIOT WITH NO EDUCATION. - Nimey
[ Parent ]

You can never go home again (2.70 / 10) (#35)
by Keepiru on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:54:43 PM EST

I didn't mean I'd found a replacement for K5.  I'm just off to other things that I care deeply about in my life.

This isn't the first time I've watched a community die around me, and I've kind of learned to accept what's happening and not spend too much time longing for the past.

The ravers had an incredible thing going for a while.  Then it hit some tipping point, got too much attention, and the demographic changed fast and hard...  And it was over.  I'll keep my fond memories, but I know I won't ever be able to go back.

The hippies had their run, of course...  I wish I could have seen it firsthand.  The same thing happened to them.  I feel sorry for the ones who've spent the last forty years trying to cling to the revolution after it was subverted, instead of moving on and making the world a better place at a local level, and with subtler attempts to fix western culture.

Both the BBS world and Usenet (and the internet as a whole) had their times.  They were distinct little worlds, intensely wonderful and unique, yet the writing was on the wall for both in September 1993.  The BBS community was quickly absorbed by the internet, the magic of Usenet faded, and the internet morphed into something much bigger, completely different.

Anyway, if you're looking for a new "Collaborative site to publish and discuss essays with a diverse group of people with something intelligent to say" to replace K5, I'm sorry, but I haven't found it, yet.  Even if I had, I don't think I'd post it here.  Too much of the core is gone, and the group I'd be inviting wouldn't be the one that built K5.  The new site will have to build its own foundation before it can handle wide exposure.

What I have moved on to are other tight knit communities where everyone's euphoric from being part of something bigger than themselves, and knowing that they're a small but integral part of the force driving it along.  I'm hoping their obscurity and sheer oddity will keep them alive.

[ Parent ]

Not looking for a K5 (2.40 / 5) (#42)
by Sgt York on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:20:14 PM EST

I was around for the BBS heyday, and Usenet was going strong about the time I started college. I pretty much stayed off the net as far as recreation is concerned after college, but found slashdot for a while, and enjoyed it. Came here after slashdot started to suck. But Usenet was not BBS, and slashdot wasn't Usenet, and K5 isn't slashdot. Thank God.

But right now, K5 feels like the BBS's in 1989, Usenet in the mid-90's, etc. I kinda feel slighted for finding K5 so late (started lurking right after the rustina fiasco, got an account maybe 4-5y ago).

So now I'm just looking for my next new thing. I don't want to go home. If I wanted "home", I'd try to find my old bluebox. And an antiquated phone system....

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.
[ Parent ]

There's a TEDTalk on this... (none / 1) (#212)
by k31 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 02:43:31 AM EST

Something about being serious (which I read as ego-free, personal awarness, intimate relations) versus solemn (commercialized, mainstream, common, now ego plays a part because you worry about living up to expectations, even if only sub-consciously).

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atn22-bmTPU

Title: Paula Scher: Great design is serious (not solemn)

She also describes TEDTalks themselves as solemn, not serious.


Your dollar is you only Word, the wrath of it your only fear. He who has an EAR to hear....
[ Parent ]

Metafilter (2.50 / 4) (#39)
by rusty on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:12:51 PM EST

I spend more time there than here. Which, I guess, is sad. But MeFi is much less demanding, and correspondingly less satisfying, since you can't ever really converse with anyone there. But it does have more links off to interesting stuff to read.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
Meh (2.00 / 3) (#43)
by Sgt York on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:23:59 PM EST

I want the conversation, the community. There are far too many sites full of links.

I can still get it in fits and starts here. In fact, I just had a very interesting conversation with Quantum Foam over the last few days. But that kind of thing is unfortunately rare now. I have no idea how to get that kind of thing going again, either.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.
[ Parent ]

Purge the trolls? (none / 1) (#135)
by Zombie Gautama Buddha on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:47:14 PM EST

I still think they're the main problem. Who can be bothered with real conversations when there are so many idiots around shouting HORSECOCK or whatever the latest K5 troll meme is?

But then again, if you do that, it would turn into HuSi. Perhaps the problem is that the trolls never get bored with their antics, while the others do. Not sure what the solution to that is.

[ Parent ]

Zombie Gautama Buddha == HORSECOCK NIGGER$ (3.00 / 5) (#139)
by schlouse on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:04:41 PM EST



[ Parent ]
I've been going there reguarly, recently (none / 1) (#134)
by Zombie Gautama Buddha on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:39:58 PM EST

There's a lot that doesn't interest me there, but there still seems to be enough to make it worthwhile. It's quite surprising considering how long it's been going and that there is no form of moderation or voting, AFAIK, aside from the small joining fee. Yeah, the discussions aren't as good as K5 (was?), but that doesn't bother me because I've never joined due to some problem (might have been a problem with PayPal).

[ Parent ]
There is moderation (none / 1) (#149)
by rusty on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 08:41:02 AM EST

There is actually very active moderation. You just don't see it unless you're semi-compulsive. Matt, Jessamyn and Cortex delete stuff every day. AskMe is especially heavily moderated. Jessamyn is a little humorless about that. I've had three or four comments deleted in there, and don't bother reading it much as a result. Fun is not allowed in AskMe.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
dunno (2.80 / 5) (#16)
by nuntius on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 04:19:31 AM EST

Defiance?  Hope that Bee Man or GNU Screen man or Died While Backpacking man will return?  The latest pleb's guide to homebrew?

Pictures of Rusty's yacht?  Inoshiro's latest project?

Honestly, I abandoned the site for a year or two but never dropped it from my bookmarks.  Now I sometimes fade in and out, sometimes voting to nudge things along.  Today's K5 is something of a sick reality TV show, a sort of "dumbest troll of the week" club.

An interesting, somewhat related read is at
http://www.shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html

If "Died While backpacking" man returns (3.00 / 7) (#86)
by xC0000005 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:13:07 AM EST

that would in fact be absolutely awesome. "TrHurler, what you been up to?" "Hanging with Jesus and Britney Spears. Man, I feel like I've been dead for days."



Voice of the Hive - Beekeeping and Bees for those who don't
[ Parent ]

Also (3.00 / 3) (#95)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:39:16 PM EST

"Jesus is such a cockbasket."

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
You are going to hell. (none / 0) (#132)
by xC0000005 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:08:57 PM EST

I may have mentioned it before but I mean it.

Voice of the Hive - Beekeeping and Bees for those who don't
[ Parent ]
Already there (3.00 / 3) (#150)
by rusty on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 08:41:50 AM EST

Me and Hitler and Reagan are waiting for you.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
Still trying to find friends on the Internet (2.00 / 4) (#17)
by I Heart Kur0shin on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 05:18:59 AM EST

Although it has been hard lately. Nobody signs up anymore and most of the people that are still here are very rude :(

Your pal,

I ♥ Kur0shin

It's not exactly a lot of effort (2.55 / 9) (#18)
by QuantumFoam on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:05:55 AM EST

to have another tab open to K5. It's not like continuing to come here has a great cost, unless you're the type of asshole that goes through multiple account in the K$ era.

- Barack Obama: Because it will work this time. Honest!

It's even less effort (none / 1) (#185)
by nkyad on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 10:22:47 AM EST

to subscribe the rss feeds and let my reader do the "coming here" part, dropping by when something interests me, like this article...

Don't believe in anything you can't see, smell, touch or at the very least infer from a good particle accelerator run


[ Parent ]
Well... (2.20 / 5) (#19)
by mirleid on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:57:19 AM EST

I've been around since 2001. And I keep coming back because I want to.

So there.

Chickens don't give milk
only come here to mod down shitty stories (2.66 / 6) (#21)
by N0574 on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 07:57:21 AM EST

like this one.

- NCCTG N0574 CANCER PROTOCOL
sometimes people say funny stuff (2.88 / 9) (#23)
by mrbastard on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 09:08:46 AM EST

and that's that

"ohmygod I have a boyfriend" - Wen Jian

The quest to find the pure troll (1.25 / 4) (#25)
by Wen Jian on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 09:31:30 AM EST

I used to think that K5 was interesting articles, but with banal idiotic commentary. But then I realised how powerful trolling is in the pursuit of truth - the scales fell from my eyes, so to speak. These days I'm beginning to wonder whether 'good trolls' are being outnumbered by 'bad trolls' - ie those that really are peurile and stupid - but then, how would I ever know?
It was an experiment in lulz. - Rusty
there would be no way to tell (none / 0) (#211)
by totmacher on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 02:26:43 AM EST

you would have to distrust people's outward natures entirely and just judge them by their actions

-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
Lol whut?! (2.00 / 3) (#226)
by Wen Jian on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 07:35:12 AM EST

Dongs
It was an experiment in lulz. - Rusty
[ Parent ]
i don't have any friends in real life (2.92 / 14) (#27)
by j1mmy on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 11:45:37 AM EST

:-(

i'll be your friend (3.00 / 3) (#29)
by totmacher on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:07:32 PM EST

if you give me money, lots of it

-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
screw totmacher! I'll be your friend just for (3.00 / 2) (#33)
by Wain on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:34:59 PM EST

the sex!!

[ Parent ]
Aww. you've got so much to give... (none / 1) (#45)
by Wen Jian on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:56:12 PM EST


It was an experiment in lulz. - Rusty
[ Parent ]
Looking around the queue, (2.50 / 8) (#30)
by tdillo on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:12:36 PM EST

I see a remarkable number of idiots (by which I mean people who couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel) still asking stupid questions about k5. Like OMG!, k5 is like sooooo last decade, like it's all dying and shit. It's not even retro. I mean really, it's almost unbearable how uncool and untrendy k5 is. There hasn't been so much as a layout change in what? Like for-Evah! In Internet years that's like DIVIDE BY ZERO.

So, I gotta say, what the hell? Why are *you* still reading, even if only occasionally?

Seriously, I'm not even interested.

Now, get off my lawn!

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.


Where are those good old-fashioned family values (1.50 / 2) (#49)
by Chino Ginelli on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:16:47 PM EST

upon which we used to rely?
_____
"Can you recommend a Chino vendor?" - MichaelCrawford, Nov 2008

"[President Obama] likes em a little loose but not saggy. He likes a wool and cashmere blend. He rolls with an inch and a quarter cuff." - tdillo, Nov 2008

"I think they look sharp. But it's important that they be pressed, or at least hung properly, so as to maintain the crease." - MichaelCrawford, Sep 2009

"I find a bit of well-cut tailoring quite hot." - TDS, Jun 2010

[ Parent ]
My 18-month-old loves to sing that song (none / 1) (#66)
by curien on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:07:25 AM EST

I'm trying to teach her to say, "Awwwwllll riiiighhht!"

--
Murder your babies. -- R Mutt
[ Parent ]
By virtue of being female (none / 1) (#196)
by Chino Ginelli on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 01:58:51 PM EST

I guess she has been spared the chin-testicles. Anyway that's cute. My nephew is just over one year. The cheeriest baby I ever met. Gravitates without fail to the pebbles on my brothers' (low temperature) bulb-heated electric hearth, whereabouts he promptly begins removing them to the rug. It's just 'North' to his compass somehow.
_____
"Can you recommend a Chino vendor?" - MichaelCrawford, Nov 2008

"[President Obama] likes em a little loose but not saggy. He likes a wool and cashmere blend. He rolls with an inch and a quarter cuff." - tdillo, Nov 2008

"I think they look sharp. But it's important that they be pressed, or at least hung properly, so as to maintain the crease." - MichaelCrawford, Sep 2009

"I find a bit of well-cut tailoring quite hot." - TDS, Jun 2010

[ Parent ]
because they care (1.50 / 2) (#69)
by totmacher on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:13:54 AM EST

unlike you

fuck your standoffish bullshit, take that to your menial it support job in real life

-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]

You're right, I don't care about people that just (1.50 / 2) (#121)
by tdillo on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:50:10 PM EST

pop in from time to time to diarize/comment about how they pop in from time to time to see if anyone is still here and surprised to find them here ask wtf why are you still here.

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.


[ Parent ]
i meant the website doof (none / 0) (#123)
by totmacher on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:08:46 PM EST

nobody on k5 cares about each other, at least, openly

-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR BOYISH ANAL CAVITY$ (3.00 / 3) (#124)
by schlouse on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:22:19 PM EST



[ Parent ]
is this a gay hookup (none / 0) (#126)
by totmacher on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:34:25 PM EST

am i being hooked, fuck

-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
TOTMACHER == EGIL DUPE $ (3.00 / 5) (#128)
by Nimey on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:43:50 PM EST


--
Never mind, it was just the dog cumming -- jandev
You Sir, are an Ignorant Motherfucker. -- Crawford
I am arguably too manic to do that. -- Crawford
I already fuck my mother -- trane
Nimey is right -- Blastard
i am in complete agreement with Nimey -- i am a pretty big deal

[ Parent ]
OMG are you ever not a douchebag? (1.00 / 3) (#265)
by Hiphopopotamus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:05:12 PM EST


_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

mr conductor says all aboard (none / 0) (#266)
by totmacher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:07:13 PM EST



-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
It's like everything you say is designed to be (1.00 / 3) (#267)
by Hiphopopotamus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:08:42 PM EST

the exact response a 16-year old girl at Hot Topic would say. What the hell? Next you're going to go on about clubbing baby seals.
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

next stop, take your meds (none / 0) (#268)
by totmacher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:11:42 PM EST



-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
God, you're easily trolled (1.00 / 3) (#269)
by Hiphopopotamus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:22:54 PM EST

Is your name ucblockhead by any chance?
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

chugga chugga chugga chugga (none / 0) (#270)
by totmacher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:36:26 PM EST



-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
Wow, so easily trolled (1.00 / 3) (#271)
by Hiphopopotamus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:37:35 PM EST

That's how girls are i suppose...
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

if you look right, you can see some crazy dude (none / 0) (#272)
by totmacher on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:43:05 PM EST

guessing random things!!

-- I'll sum it up for yo: You = Douche bag ~ Butthurtapotamus
[ Parent ]
How come you are so easily trolled by me? (1.00 / 3) (#273)
by Hiphopopotamus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:46:35 PM EST

Are you on the rag or something?
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

I got nowhere else to go? (2.50 / 6) (#34)
by Wain on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 01:36:17 PM EST

/b/ doesn't come with the free side of "intelligence fries" that k5 does.

I just like to rate comments. (2.40 / 5) (#36)
by Booji Boy on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 02:31:21 PM EST

Kinda miss the K5 cliques and cabals tho.

I'm a parody of myself (1.60 / 5) (#37)
by GhostOfTiber on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 02:32:42 PM EST

I'm so post-modern that I understand that I can post legitimate content and do enjoy doing so, but I'm not above writing "fuck apple computer" or reposting stories from David Duke for their shock value.

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne

enormous yawn (3.00 / 3) (#41)
by channel on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:17:20 PM EST



Marriage is a divine rite. It was part of God's design when He created man. - Royal Martyr Empress Alexandra Fedorovna.
[ Parent ]
sticks cock in your mouth (2.25 / 4) (#47)
by GhostOfTiber on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 05:45:01 PM EST

SHAM-WOW!

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne
[ Parent ]

you would do that (none / 0) (#51)
by channel on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:33:39 PM EST



Marriage is a divine rite. It was part of God's design when He created man. - Royal Martyr Empress Alexandra Fedorovna.
[ Parent ]
And you would like it. (2.00 / 3) (#52)
by GhostOfTiber on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:41:40 PM EST

SHAM-WOW.

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne
[ Parent ]

You're a giant fag (3.00 / 3) (#80)
by Nimey on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:09:14 AM EST

for saying sham-wow like that.
--
Never mind, it was just the dog cumming -- jandev
You Sir, are an Ignorant Motherfucker. -- Crawford
I am arguably too manic to do that. -- Crawford
I already fuck my mother -- trane
Nimey is right -- Blastard
i am in complete agreement with Nimey -- i am a pretty big deal

[ Parent ]
I love you (2.00 / 4) (#38)
by SaintPort on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 02:39:29 PM EST

and if I had to guess, I'd think K5 will live as long as Rusty does... or at least makes provision for its continuation.

The appeal of the site varies with content. I lurk occasionally until I see something of interest... then log on.

But why do I even lurk...

I think I supplement my social needs here. The more diversity in relationships I experience in meatspace, the less frequently I check in here. That's a function of both time and rapport. When I'm busy, I have enough enlightening conversation. When I am more solitary and less busy, I'm drawn to mingle with the personalities here.

There's another draw... the conversations stay here... permanence. I can refer back to a previous conversation easily and link out also. So there is an easy flexibility in expression.

Still another draw is amplitude. When I write on K5, I know that my ideas are spreading further than on any other medium than I am aware. I can get feedback from a wide range of viewpoints.

Feedback. That's probably key. Anything I post here will probably get some sort of feedback. And even thought that feedback is often rude, it is usually smart. K5 is truly where the smart get mean.

Its a good thing.

--
Search the Scriptures
Start with some cheap grace...Got Life?

closest thing to adequacy around $ (2.33 / 6) (#40)
by loteck on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:14:43 PM EST


--
"You're in tune to the musical sound of loteck hi-fi, the musical sound that moves right round. Keep on moving ya'll." -Mylakovich
"WHAT AN ETERNAL MOBIUS STRIP OF FELLATIATIC BANALITY THIS IS." -Harry B Otch

It certainly is $ (none / 0) (#109)
by Phssthpok on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:57:17 PM EST


____________

affective flattening has caused me to kill 11,357 people

[ Parent ]
Adequacy.org (3.00 / 2) (#138)
by Zombie Gautama Buddha on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:04:33 PM EST

Is neat if you're a 13yo and think your witty BS actually has some nobility to it.

[ Parent ]
I've been here too long to leave (none / 1) (#44)
by me0w on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 03:42:05 PM EST

Rusty promised to open up an old K5-folks home on his yacht. I'm waiting for my cabin.


Just because you are a crack whore doesn't mean we can't be friends.

SEAORG OPERATIONAL STATUS (3.00 / 4) (#93)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:37:15 PM EST

PENDING. STAND BY.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
I like this place because... (2.82 / 17) (#48)
by Zombie Schrodingers Cat on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 05:54:01 PM EST

if you're full of shit here then someone is gonna call you on it.

Most sites you get a cabal of people that you cannot question or you will get banned. Then there is a bunch of sycophants that suck their dicks for whatever reason. In the end most online communities are really immature and stupid if you look at them closely.

K5 is just the opposite. On the surface its stupid and immature, but if you look closely there are a lot of smart people here who will make you think. There are no limits on what you can say here. You can call rusty a lazy cunt and you won't get banned. So you are free to say what you really think.

Most people have left because most people want to be part of a cabal. They want some special status above the other users. K5 does not provide that. Even if you have posted a lot of front page articles here, no one is gonna stroke your ego. If you write something thats bullshit someone is gonna say you're full of shit, no matter what your previous contributions are, eg. localroger

But it would be nice to have more users. it gets boring trying to explain the difference between deficit and debt to lildebbie or arguing international politics with GoT when he doesn't know the difference between the UN and NATO.

Try posting rustina.jpg.$ (3.00 / 2) (#53)
by V on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 07:39:35 PM EST


---
What my fans are saying:
"That, and the fact that V is a total, utter scumbag." VZAMaZ.
"well look up little troll" cts.
"I think you're a worthless little cuntmonkey but you made me lol, so I sigged you." re
"goodness gracious you're an idiot" mariahkillschickens
[ Parent ]
uh yeah (2.50 / 6) (#59)
by Zombie Schrodingers Cat on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 08:45:40 PM EST

if you weren't a virgin you'd understand why photoshopping another man's wife onto some porn and posting it on the internet is something you DO NOT DO.

if you weren't a virgin...

[ Parent ]

Yes, but what if... (3.00 / 3) (#102)
by Pentashagon on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:20:52 PM EST

you photoshop a porn star's head onto a naked photo of a man's wife and post it on the Internet?  Furthermore, will you understand the reasoning if you are a virgin?

I only ask because I didn't consider this particular question before my purity was stolen by the grim spectre of sexual intercourse.

[ Parent ]

Well said. I can think of many other sites where (2.40 / 5) (#74)
by Hiphopopotamus on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:50:54 AM EST

it's all manners. Funny that the one place where relative anonymity and free speech are possible, the web is becoming more and more Nanny-State. In a way this is good, because it leaves open the path to resistance.

On the other hand, it is also raising a generation of gay-wads given birth to by the previous gay-wads who presently occupy sites everywhere about HUGZ:), cats, and everyone reaching around in a giant mass cum-shot of Oh-Ain't-We-So-Goddam-Tech-Savvy?!!?.

It is quite sad that the current paradigm for the blue-collar auto mechanic of the past (CS grads, IT people, Cory Doctorow, etc.) wield so much power in a place where something actually interesting could be done.
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

Thought you were going away (1.50 / 2) (#77)
by Nimey on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:00:39 AM EST

btw you're sitting in the wet spot.
--
Never mind, it was just the dog cumming -- jandev
You Sir, are an Ignorant Motherfucker. -- Crawford
I am arguably too manic to do that. -- Crawford
I already fuck my mother -- trane
Nimey is right -- Blastard
i am in complete agreement with Nimey -- i am a pretty big deal

[ Parent ]
I've been gone for about 2 years now (none / 1) (#84)
by Hiphopopotamus on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:03:40 AM EST

newb
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

rusty is a l (none / 0) (#83)
by GhostOfTiber on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:58:27 AM EST

NO CARRIER

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne
[ Parent ]

ovely man. (3.00 / 5) (#92)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:36:10 PM EST



____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
I would upload some hawt pix for you (none / 1) (#96)
by GhostOfTiber on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:40:29 PM EST

but without image tags, you know.

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne
[ Parent ]

I stay hoping that someday... (3.00 / 12) (#50)
by czth on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 06:22:40 PM EST

... the K5 ASCII Reenactment Players will return.

I have a few technical articles that may be of interest that I could post: server-side IMAP filtering; internal DNS updates from DCHP host names; MythTV tweaking; maybe even some commentary about Word, although most of the interesting bits are probably under NDA; possibly some thoughts from my current part-time Master's course (programming languages, using OCaml), or some less technical rants about government reform (everyone has an opinion on how to fix government, and we know opinions are like armpits), or I could write about some of the books I've read lately (some finance/trading, some political, some fiction), or even something basic about firearms and shooting.

Maybe I'll try posting something; maybe I fear the trolls too much. There's also the time factor.

K5ARP can be found (3.00 / 2) (#56)
by it certainly is on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 08:15:06 PM EST

here and here, but the author behind K5ARP has retired the concept.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

Yeah, and... (2.50 / 2) (#91)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:33:51 PM EST

...he'll never be back here. He has such a hate-on for me.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
He's jealous of you and localroger. (none / 0) (#103)
by it certainly is on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:26:09 PM EST

He's a writer, don't you know? Not just some Glaswegian tech bod.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

huh? what? (none / 1) (#108)
by localroger on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:48:12 PM EST

I suppose this kind of attention is why I still hang around here.

And that is what is so great about the internet. It enables pompous blowhards to connect with other pompous blowhards in a vast circle jerk of pomposity. -- Bill Maher
[ Parent ]
FWIW (3.00 / 2) (#112)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 04:55:36 PM EST

I never understood why, and bear him no ill-will.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
I don't know.$ (3.00 / 3) (#54)
by V on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 07:50:53 PM EST


---
What my fans are saying:
"That, and the fact that V is a total, utter scumbag." VZAMaZ.
"well look up little troll" cts.
"I think you're a worthless little cuntmonkey but you made me lol, so I sigged you." re
"goodness gracious you're an idiot" mariahkillschickens
I like to fling poop. (2.83 / 6) (#55)
by greengrass on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 07:59:01 PM EST



I'm going to keep voting on stories (1.25 / 4) (#57)
by DaveBeast on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 08:30:23 PM EST

until I get the message that says I cast the decisive vote.

and with that last vote there (1.00 / 3) (#58)
by DaveBeast on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 08:32:12 PM EST

I just killed the other story in the queue. Goodnight, all.

[ Parent ]
Don't you know we are united? (2.20 / 5) (#60)
by United Fools on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 08:52:24 PM EST


We are united, we are fools, and we are America!
I'm here for the LULZ (2.20 / 5) (#61)
by it certainly is on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:01:32 PM EST

And boy, is there plenty of that to go around.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.

alternatives? (2.50 / 8) (#62)
by Empedocles on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:13:47 PM EST

/b/ was okay for awhile. it had started to go downhill long before the whole hate scientology meme, but that was the absolute bottom for the *chans. still haven't bothered to go back, but the chans were good right around the height of /i/.

link aggregators? digg is intolerable and always was, for the most part. reddit still has good links sometimes, but the community has degraded to the point where it seems to be composed mostly of knee-jerk agreement. the atheism sub-reddit makes me sick, and i say that as someone who classifies himself as a weak atheist. they remind me of the knee-jerk atheism i had right around middle school. i outgrew that rather rapidly; reddit just seems to sink lower everytime i check.

metafilter has maintained a rather consistent quality since inception. like someone said earlier, there's no real community there - just a list of cool links.

k5 seems to self-select for the kind of users whom i would choose if i were starting from scratch. it's not perfect, but you have to admit that the barrier for admission here is rather high. not in the "some cabal's hand-picked selection" but rather in the way those who can't defend themselves (or learn to) tend to gtfo rather quick. it's brutal to watch, but i like the outcome.

i still check slashdot from time-to-time. just an overview of the stories, the comments are about on par with reddit. imho slashdot peaked right around 2000-2001 and then slid into mediocrity.

anyway, that's my take on this place. take it how you will.


---
And I think it's gonna be a long long time
'Till touch down brings me 'round again to find
I'm not the man they think I am at home

I like the tags on slashdot (none / 1) (#82)
by GhostOfTiber on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:56:46 AM EST

one of the editors consistently gets the "slashkos" tag for the drivel he posts.

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne
[ Parent ]

mostly cmdrtaco and kdawson $ (none / 1) (#98)
by anaesthetica on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:03:29 PM EST


—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
fag (none / 1) (#144)
by Ruston Rustov on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:59:56 AM EST


I had had incurable open sores all over my feet for sixteen years. The doctors were powerless to do anything about it. I told my psychiatrist that they were psychosomatic Stigmata - the Stigmata are the wounds Jesus suffered when he was nailed to the cross. Three days later all my sores were gone. -- Michael Crawford
Maybe tomorrow. -- Michael Crawford
As soon as she has her first period, fuck your daughter. -- localroger

[ Parent ]
Tags are gone (none / 1) (#182)
by Zombie Gautama Buddha on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:34:36 AM EST

They seemed to have disappeared a few days ago. Either that or they've messed with user settings again to turn it off, which wouldn't surprise me. Their implementation really was a shocker. They did finally go to a valid CSS layout a while back, but it still seems that they're clueless about such things when they have to do it themselves.

[ Parent ]
The community I guess (2.20 / 5) (#63)
by Cambria on Wed Jan 21, 2009 at 10:33:25 PM EST

and also just out of habit/entertainment.

Feel like I know a lot about the people who post here such as MC, lil deb, MMM and bee guy - don't find that much on other sites.

I think I've been here for just over 5 years.. that's crazy, like 1/4 of my life!

I have (2.00 / 4) (#65)
by mybostinks on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 12:45:47 AM EST

no idea why I continue to come here. Maybe it's the cast of characters.

I come here for the ghey-5 porn. (2.00 / 4) (#67)
by superdiva on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:52:33 AM EST

and because the diary ghetto regulars entertain me.  
_____________________________________________

Psych-E


We love you too, you HuSsie. (1.50 / 2) (#71)
by it certainly is on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:09:12 AM EST

:HUGS:

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

Heh. (none / 1) (#78)
by superdiva on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:04:47 AM EST

The Husites will find that remark offensive.  I've been persona non grata for some years now.
_____________________________________________

Psych-E


[ Parent ]

Oh, then accept my apologies. (none / 0) (#81)
by it certainly is on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:39:05 AM EST

Congratulations on breaking free. K5 would be proud.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

the trolls, obviously... (2.28 / 7) (#68)
by mirko on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:54:31 AM EST

I've been here for ages, just found a comment of mine written in 2003, so I guess I can write 6 years ven though I anonymously used to read that site beforehand.

I like the non pc-ness of people here: Diggers are Gen-Yers morons, Slashdotters are not what they used to be and of of these categories would barely resist more than a few days here.

Just take it that way: where else is the goatse an icon? who else knows about the tubgirl? where else can one learn to brew booze on a budget? where else will one dare posting a comment titled "omg its teh joooooz!".

You all are sons of bitches but I love you that way. :)
--
Finally I managed to make the decision that I would work on it. - MDC
we had to huddle together - trane

Remember when a "troll" was bad? (3.00 / 2) (#76)
by superdiva on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:00:02 AM EST

I made the mistake of commenting in a story written by Baldsron.

I got called an evil troll for making this comment.

Who would have thought buttsex troll topics would be the norm at K5 now?
_____________________________________________

Psych-E


[ Parent ]

lol (3.00 / 3) (#90)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:27:38 PM EST

Come on. You titled a comment about butt rape "This is Not the Biggest Hole."

That's gotta count for something.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

That comment title is clever not evil. (3.00 / 2) (#99)
by superdiva on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:05:31 PM EST

Dude, I should have been leveled up by the Horde for that mission.
_____________________________________________

Psych-E


[ Parent ]

It doesnt have pictures (3.00 / 8) (#70)
by daveybaby on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:25:37 AM EST

so i can read it at work without it being too obvious.

loser returns (2.00 / 5) (#72)
by postDigital on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:33:13 AM EST

to post a K5 is dying retread into the queue.
Another Kuron in a lifelong battle against
Acute Passéperger's Syndrome.
The Mundanity Of Mope.



boredrom (1.66 / 3) (#73)
by Del Griffith on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:46:54 AM EST


-------
I...I like me. My wife likes me. My customers like me. Because I'm the real article. What you see is what you get. - Me


The trolls amuse me (2.00 / 4) (#79)
by Nimey on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:07:09 AM EST

you still occasionally get intelligent stories (mainly from beeguy these days), and it's socially acceptable to tell someone to suck-start a shotgun.

All the pussies have fucked off to husi.

If only Rusty would do some goddamn work to improve the site, like fixing decade-old bugs.
--
Never mind, it was just the dog cumming -- jandev
You Sir, are an Ignorant Motherfucker. -- Crawford
I am arguably too manic to do that. -- Crawford
I already fuck my mother -- trane
Nimey is right -- Blastard
i am in complete agreement with Nimey -- i am a pretty big deal

TO TROLL, FIGHT... (1.25 / 4) (#85)
by Enlarged to Show Texture on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:11:45 AM EST




"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -- Isaac Asimov
This place is nice. (2.87 / 8) (#87)
by xC0000005 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:16:07 AM EST

It's like living in the slums without the threat of getting shot. I still read a lot here but I don't post as much, because I've had to face the fact that my writing is changing. I used to write things that made sense to non beekeepers but these days that's not the case.

It doesn't hurt that I actually get paid to write stuff now and the people who pay are kind of picky about me publishing it anywhere else.

Still I owe an article on espresso machine repair, and an article there will be. I call it "Ogg/Espresso Repair" and it will be the end all to espresso repair manuals. Ok, no, it won't.

Voice of the Hive - Beekeeping and Bees for those who don't

Man, you are totally into bees (2.00 / 3) (#88)
by Hiphopopotamus on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 01:02:42 PM EST


_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

new product announcements (2.33 / 3) (#89)
by nateo on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:03:28 PM EST

I'm here to hear about the release of OggFrog and Banga .  Once that happens I'm Audi5000.

--
"I'm so gonna travel the world, photographing my dick at every location."
  - Vampire Zombie Abu Musab al Zarqawi
honestly? (2.50 / 6) (#94)
by kipple on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:38:06 PM EST

No idea. And here I could rant it up for a good half an hour of your useless reading time while pretending to work. I never gave up on k5. Because last time I wrote here it was more than five girlfriends ago; because in the mean time I changed 2 countries, 1 continent, n models of pc, programming languages, I've given up my privacy and softened my paranoia, but k5 stays. So keep wondering as much as you want, nothing to see here.

It's like living in the same old village in Italy, and still going to the central Bar in the little town square. It might stink, the people there know more about yourself than you could possibly imagine of knowing yourself, the waiters now it's no longer your sex dream like when you were 15, and the videogames did not change in the last 10 years, but you still go there. Cuz you might have traveled the world, but sometimes it's comfy and warming to trod on your old footsteps, once in a while.

No, this is not an explanation, I'm making this up. I do not know why I still read k5.

--- There are two kind of sysadmins: Paranoids and Losers (adapted from D. Bach)

RSS (2.00 / 3) (#97)
by logic on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 02:43:35 PM EST

I'm not so much "here" as "k5's front page is still in my RSS reader". I've had an account since at least 2000; is there an obvious way to figure out how when your account was created?

-esm

Account creation (none / 1) (#100)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:06:10 PM EST

Not for you -- people who were around prior to Jun 03, 2001 are all marked as having joined on that date. Before that we didn't have a creation date attached to accounts.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
well, you came after me... (none / 0) (#189)
by CodeWright on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:15:39 PM EST

...but not by long. My first comment was March 9, 2000. I had lurked for a while before that.

--
A: Because it destroys the flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top posting dumb? --clover_kicker

[ Parent ]
Why Am I Here? (1.25 / 4) (#104)
by Canar on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:32:36 PM EST

One word: epenis.

i keep hoping (1.66 / 3) (#105)
by the77x42 on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:41:32 PM EST

Another casino adventure or beekeeping story will pop up. There's usually something political that pops up that I like, but beyond that I haven't read anything decent on here in years.


"We're not here to educate. We're here to point and laugh." - creature
"You have some pretty stupid ideas." - indubitable ‮

casion adventure! (none / 0) (#203)
by j1mmy on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 06:41:29 PM EST

that series was what really sold me on the site.

[ Parent ]
Sunk cost dilemma (2.66 / 9) (#106)
by LilDebbie on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 03:42:06 PM EST

LilDebbie has posted 32467 comments, 19 stories, and 940 diaries.

My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
- hugin -

Yeah (3.00 / 9) (#113)
by rusty on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 05:00:50 PM EST

You've been throwing good comments after bad for years now.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
i c whut u did thar $ (none / 0) (#116)
by LilDebbie on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 06:15:23 PM EST



My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
- hugin -

[ Parent ]
There's no shame in... (none / 1) (#204)
by skyknight on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 08:01:22 PM EST

having half as many comments as LilDebbie. I see I'm back to having fewer than you. I can live with both of these things. My RSI issues are better than they have been at various points in time.

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
I dunno really. (1.66 / 3) (#110)
by spooky wookie on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 04:08:49 PM EST

I am amazed that I keep coming back (registered in 02 to make some troll about the Iraq war) mostly just to lurk.

I guess the whole "The best stories of the day, chosen by you." idea actually works, and creates an interesting "web community".

i'm, still here ++ (2.42 / 7) (#111)
by spidy on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 04:12:52 PM EST



Interesting people (1.66 / 3) (#114)
by StackTrayce on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 05:25:48 PM EST

I've been reading for a LONG time and have had an account at least prior to the $5 charge. I don't post. My main draw is the interesting people and their life stories, although I also enjoy certain articles that get posted.
I pretty much got obsessed with trane and have read (or at least skimmed) everything he has written; truly fascinating.

idontknow (2.50 / 2) (#115)
by beredon on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 05:55:08 PM EST

Honestly, I'm still lurking here because it's in my news feed and I don't want to remove it just in case. I've been around since 2003.

ocassional dramas (1.66 / 3) (#117)
by fleece on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 06:53:57 PM EST

eg Crawford, and just in case something interesting happens really, don't like the idea of missing out.



I feel like some drunken crazed lunatic trying to outguess a cat ~ Louis Winthorpe III
I've been here since (1.66 / 3) (#118)
by Nimey on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:14:39 PM EST

not long after k5 was cracked way way long ago.  I remember the story being on Slashdot and that rusty got a bunch of donations to keep the site going, and wanted to see what the big deal was.

It was a while after that that I registered.
--
Never mind, it was just the dog cumming -- jandev
You Sir, are an Ignorant Motherfucker. -- Crawford
I am arguably too manic to do that. -- Crawford
I already fuck my mother -- trane
Nimey is right -- Blastard
i am in complete agreement with Nimey -- i am a pretty big deal

You must have registered before that (none / 1) (#125)
by curien on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:34:13 PM EST

My uid is an order of magnitude above yours, and I registered long before the pledge drive.

--
Murder your babies. -- R Mutt
[ Parent ]
No, no (1.50 / 2) (#127)
by Nimey on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:42:03 PM EST

this wasn't the pledge drive that went to rusty's yacht and monocle; it was not long after k5 started.
--
Never mind, it was just the dog cumming -- jandev
You Sir, are an Ignorant Motherfucker. -- Crawford
I am arguably too manic to do that. -- Crawford
I already fuck my mother -- trane
Nimey is right -- Blastard
i am in complete agreement with Nimey -- i am a pretty big deal

[ Parent ]
I'm not here any more... (1.50 / 4) (#119)
by BobCat on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:43:38 PM EST

... I'm on Reddit.

Top 10 Ways to Amuse a Geek

Circa 2002 (2.00 / 3) (#120)
by intransigent on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 07:49:16 PM EST

Lurking this site helps me remember how insular everyone becomes when faced with the futility of convincing others of their beliefs.

gems (1.66 / 3) (#122)
by dilinger on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:00:42 PM EST

The stories mostly suck (and the diaries are useless), but every once in a while there's a Gem.  It's worth checking once a month or so for that.

Also, the bee guy rocks.  I've had 2 hives for a year now..

You are now infected. (none / 0) (#245)
by xC0000005 on Thu Jan 29, 2009 at 01:51:58 AM EST

Your wallet will continue to shrink while the stack of bee equipment will grow. Sorry. Bad news is that it's terminal. Good news is you'll die happy.

Voice of the Hive - Beekeeping and Bees for those who don't
[ Parent ]
I just check if localroger has finished TOPI yet (1.25 / 4) (#129)
by davitf on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:52:08 PM EST

Well, also the hope there'll be another recipe as awesome as that Christmas cake.

(Actually I've always been just a lurker and stopped visiting regularly a long time ago, but now the RSS feed brings me back whenever there's something new.)

I'm working on it (1.33 / 3) (#137)
by localroger on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:01:01 PM EST

Maybe we should have a challenge. I will get TOPI out before Mike gets Ogg Frog to Beta. (Actually when I release TOPI it will be beta, since it won't have gone through the years of editing MOPI did.)

And that is what is so great about the internet. It enables pompous blowhards to connect with other pompous blowhards in a vast circle jerk of pomposity. -- Bill Maher
[ Parent ]
I definitely won't leave k5 before TOPI comes out (none / 0) (#140)
by Pentashagon on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 11:21:33 PM EST

It would be kind of an anticlimax to all my years of waiting.

[ Parent ]
sa-WEET! (none / 0) (#190)
by CodeWright on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:19:35 PM EST

i thought you'd given up on it.

i'd say i can't wait, but i have been.

--
A: Because it destroys the flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top posting dumb? --clover_kicker

[ Parent ]
This. (none / 0) (#172)
by Zapata on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 04:28:11 PM EST

Slashdot sent me here and localroger's writing is what kept me.

Somewhere along the way, he found more important things to do, but I forgot to leave.

Now, it's pure inertia.

"If you ain't got a camel, you ain't Shiite."


[ Parent ]
God I never realized anyone actually liked (2.00 / 3) (#173)
by Hiphopopotamus on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 04:35:43 PM EST

LR stuff. What a strange phenomenon....
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

Yeah, there's a few of us. (none / 0) (#174)
by Zapata on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 04:42:56 PM EST

MOPI is a little extreme, but it has some fantastic ideas in it.

The rest of his stuff is also quite good. I never really groked the LR hate. I assume it's just trolling. Some of the trolls are very entertaining, so for me its sort of a win/win situation.

"If you ain't got a camel, you ain't Shiite."


[ Parent ]
did you actually read any of it? :P (none / 0) (#188)
by boxed on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 11:02:18 AM EST

Sure, if you're a little prude MOPI will be hard on your stomach but don't see how you could possibly not enjoy Passages. Especially Mortal Passage.

[ Parent ]
I read a bunch of it in 2002 (1.50 / 2) (#192)
by Hiphopopotamus on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:21:25 PM EST

Sci-fi is generally crappy, I'll leave it at that.
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

localroger's stuff is great, not just the MOPI = (none / 0) (#191)
by CodeWright on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:20:24 PM EST



--
A: Because it destroys the flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top posting dumb? --clover_kicker

[ Parent ]
dude (1.00 / 2) (#130)
by /dev/trash on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 08:53:15 PM EST

I'm still here to prove that usernames could have /s in them.

That and all the trim I getz

---
Updated 02/20/2004
New Site

I was here to learn English (2.00 / 3) (#131)
by BlowCat on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:00:45 PM EST

Before I came here, I was an active Slashdot member, but I was disappointed with quality of the comments. K5 offered a great alternative.

I discovered that K5 was encouraging me to write good comments. It wasn't enough to write something smart or funny. I actually had to express my thoughts better than others for my comments to be on top if sorted by ratings. Not being a native English speaker, I realized that K5 was a powerful tool to encourage me to improve my written language skills. It was helpful indeed. My comments were getting better and would occasionally take the top spot. Contrast that to Slashdot with its prized first posts.

But I was disappointed by the lack of current news of the IT world still present on Slashdot. I was also concerned that I was spending too much productive time reading and writing comments, instead of doing something useful, like writing free software. So I left K5 and Slashdot one day. I'm a lwn.net regular since then.

I still visit this site from time to time if I'm in nostalgic mood. I understand that many members here are like me - left leaning young IT professionals who sought refuge from the stupidity of Slashdot and other sites. That's why I visit K5 to see how people like me react to world events. Unfortunately, K5 is increasingly interested in its own affairs rather than in the world around us.

As for Slashdot, I have never looked back.

What's your native language? (none / 1) (#152)
by rusty on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 08:59:33 AM EST

Your English is completely perfect. Well done.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
not _perfect_ (none / 0) (#153)
by boxed on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 09:55:33 AM EST

but I was disappointed with quality of the comments

Should be "the quality".

I still visit this site from time to time if I'm in nostalgic mood.

and that should be "a nostalgic". Sounds like eastern european mistakes, but there's not much data to base that on.

Oh, and I'm of course not a native speaker either :P

[ Parent ]

Meh (none / 1) (#154)
by rusty on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 10:39:03 AM EST

Those could just be typos. God knows I'm liable to make the same kind of mistakes.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
maybe (none / 0) (#155)
by boxed on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 10:43:30 AM EST

but the way two entire words were dropped in a way that also happens to remind me very strongly of certain accents make me doubtful. There were no extra spaces where the "a" should have been so it was not just a missed key btw.

[ Parent ]
You are right (none / 0) (#170)
by BlowCat on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 04:00:33 PM EST

My native language is Russian

[ Parent ]
heh, cool (none / 0) (#187)
by boxed on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 10:58:17 AM EST

I was gonna say russian, but I chickened out because it was too specific :P

But your english is obviously good, if you just remember to not drop "the" and "a" no one will be able to tell you're not a native speaker (well, maybe they might because you're not mixing up "you're" and "your" :P).

[ Parent ]

Your wright! (3.00 / 2) (#206)
by rusty on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 08:20:38 PM EST



____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
rusty? (none / 0) (#208)
by parakopo on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 09:20:10 PM EST

are you alive? or you are a bot?
Will you please remit me a "reply to this"?

[ Parent ]
I honed a lot of my writing skills here (none / 0) (#199)
by iGrrrl on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 05:03:52 PM EST

Lo, back in the day, before Rusty implemented diaries on this site, I used K5 comments as a way to pare down my writing style.

Now my absence stems from a lack of time and energy.

--
You cannot have a reasonable conversation with someone who regards other people as toys to be played with. localroger
remove apostrophe for email.
[ Parent ]

hello (1.66 / 3) (#133)
by cbraga on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 09:17:03 PM EST

inertia, i guess

i'm familiar with many of the users though, and as other people said, it is one of the few community sites that didn't degrade into inane 4chan clones.

plus every once in a while a really interesting story comes along.

ESC[78;89;13p ESC[110;121;13p

Just hoping (1.66 / 3) (#136)
by Klom Dark on Thu Jan 22, 2009 at 10:47:43 PM EST

to hear something cool. Once in a while this place is cool. Hope to see more of it.

At least it gets more traffic than my sucky site:

MessageBase.net

Slashdot (2.00 / 4) (#141)
by kshea on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 12:40:07 AM EST

I still have a SlashBox on the side of my Slashdot page showing the Kuro5hin feed. So every once in a while a new story pops up.

I'm amazed rusty hasn't just given up by now. He probably makes mad cash off of Google Ads or something, and all of the trolls are supporting his coke habit.

Same here. (1.50 / 2) (#146)
by wbd on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 03:19:13 AM EST

I have a look when something interesting pops up in the SlashBox. This is my first post on K5 since 2002.

[ Parent ]
ditto [mdvlnx] (none / 1) (#221)
by leviramsey on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 09:58:34 PM EST



[ Parent ]
"take off"? lol. (1.50 / 2) (#222)
by anaesthetica on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 11:35:08 PM EST

http://www.kuro5hin.org/section/fiction

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
Community. (1.66 / 3) (#142)
by nate s on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 12:43:01 AM EST

I've been around off and on since 2003, and even though I have only occasionally posted, it's really about the people.  Ones that stand out in my head: I saw someone shout out to trane below, there's that spidy guy, MC has so few secrets that you feel like he's almost family even if you don't really want to, and then the old names like LilDebbie, over-the-top trolls like MMM, and a dozen others whose names only escape me because I didn't see them in the diary list tonight.  

I imagine most people don't really know me 'cuz I'm a lightweight poster, but I stay because K5 is one of the few places online where you can get an intelligent comment on anything, even if it is irreverent as fuck or plain insulting.  Nobody gives you an easy time of it, but in that sense if you make the cut and end up with a few highly-ranked comments you can be moderately sure that your brain (or at least your wit) is still functioning at a higher level than 99% of the population.  (Or you can go the paranoia route and imagine that K5 hates you and wants to set you up so it can knock you down again...you sadistic bastards!)

So as much as I hate some of the personas here, I get a good snicker once in a while, find some people actually inspiring, and yeah, this is one of the few places I will probably come back to until it actually does die.  May that day stay far away; there isn't really any other place like it.

Sounds about right (none / 1) (#209)
by rhdntd on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 09:48:55 PM EST

I really have nothing to add, but the article's instructions said I had to post ....

Now I have to come back every day and vote +1FP on anything non-meta until a meta article isn't at the top of the FP.  Darn it, I really don't care for the college article in edit right now, but I guess it's not terrible.

-- 
"book chicks really seem to like anal"
  — Lady 3Jane
[ Parent ]

I forgot to delete the bookmark (1.66 / 3) (#143)
by Katt on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:46:40 AM EST

But seriously. I rarely comment and don't log in all that often, but there's still some interesting things posted here that I like to read.

It's like a car crash. (2.00 / 3) (#145)
by Dr Caleb on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 02:05:26 AM EST

I just have to keep watching.  

I enjoy some of the stories.  I keep hoping Signal 11 remembers his password one day.  

And I love to see CTS post his newest idea on how K5 can be turned around.  I remember adiffer's series on Geometric Algebra, or 'i's posts on Relativity.  Every 6 months or so, something pops up that intrigues me.

I had great hopes for it. Most of the content is just public wanking.  One day it will make you go blind.

Plus, it's still in my RSS feeds.

Vive Le Canada - For Canadians who give a shit about their country.

There is no K5 cabal.

I have the stories in my RSS reader. (2.66 / 3) (#147)
by creature on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 03:25:02 AM EST

I don't check the diary section any more, but when I did it was because they either made me giggle or the comments made me giggle.

I like giggling.

+1 (none / 1) (#158)
by Scott Robinson on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 12:43:00 PM EST

I don't even read submissions anymore.

[ Parent ]
Wow (1.66 / 3) (#148)
by boxed on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 04:38:04 AM EST

I didn't realize you only had to be here from 2003 to be an "old-timer". My first diary entry is from 2001. Personally I think the diaries system probably fucked up k5 a bit, since a lot of good stuff gets buried there instead of posted.

Rusty! Where is the feature to vote up diary entries to the front page?

Anyhow.. I would still come here just to check if localroger posts some new fiction, but then once in a while there's something else that is worth while so hey, that's a nice bonus.

Still in RSS Reader (1.66 / 3) (#151)
by doormat on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 08:55:34 AM EST

Otherwise I would have forgotten about you a long time ago...

Once in a blue moon (1.66 / 3) (#156)
by knowugotadollar on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 11:17:45 AM EST

Because every once in awhile a story makes it to the front page, and every so often they are truly awesome.
redefining life
Holy shit (2.00 / 4) (#157)
by skim123 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 12:05:32 PM EST

This site still exists?

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


This! (none / 0) (#165)
by mfinn999 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 02:48:00 PM EST

This kind of shit is the reason I'm still here...

[ Parent ]
I still read because I want to delete my diary (2.33 / 6) (#159)
by parakopo on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:10:57 PM EST

And they don't let me.

Because once it was good (1.25 / 4) (#160)
by mcherm on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:29:08 PM EST

Because one K5 was good, and I keep wishing it would go back to being like that. But it won't.

-- Michael Chermside
I'm a 5 yr lurker (1.66 / 3) (#161)
by 7h3647h32in6 on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:34:51 PM EST

I still check back every few days hoping for a good new story. You end up having a good bit of time when waiting for classes to  start.

because I deserve to be punished (2.71 / 7) (#162)
by BottleRocket on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:51:07 PM EST

harder, k5!

$ . . . . . $ . . . . . $ . . . . . $
. ₩ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . * . . . . . * . . . . . * . . . . . * . . . . . *
$ . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $
Yes I do download [child pornography], but I don't keep it any longer than I need to, so it can yield insight as to how to find more. --MDC
$ . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $
. . . . * . . . . . * . . . . . * . . . . . * . . . . . *
. ₩ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
$ . . . . . $ . . . . . $ . . . . . $
$B R Σ III$

What's wrong with k5? (1.66 / 3) (#163)
by Pentashagon on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 01:56:21 PM EST

Did I miss a memo?

Yes, you see the problem is that there are no (2.50 / 6) (#166)
by Hiphopopotamus on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 03:39:24 PM EST

endless stories about technology by amateur writers anymore. Also, the Sci-fi content is virtually nil. This shows that K5 is dead. Who would bother reading an internet website that isn't about how technology works with stories about Robots? What's the use in that?
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

I thought the centipede god made up for that $ (none / 1) (#177)
by Pentashagon on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 08:26:14 PM EST



[ Parent ]
It's been a while... (none / 1) (#220)
by leviramsey on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 09:57:10 PM EST

...did the Fiction section ever take off?



[ Parent ]
There was a time (1.66 / 3) (#164)
by Liar on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 02:06:31 PM EST

when this was my response.

Nowadays my offline life has grown so I have little time. K5 does have the potential to post a surprising or challenging piece. That it doesn't do so as often doesn't mean it should be abandoned altogether though it does mean I contribute less.


I admit I'm a Liar. That's why you can trust me.
Moo (2.00 / 3) (#167)
by unknownlamer on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 03:47:32 PM EST

The alternative is reddit.

K5 is at least an interesting cesspool.

I feel fucking old -- eightish years of k5 for me (at least since I posted my first comment; I may.


--
<vladl> I am reading the making of the atomic bong - modern science
Moo (1.00 / 3) (#168)
by unknownlamer on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 03:47:38 PM EST

The alternative is reddit.

K5 is at least an interesting cesspool.

I feel fucking old -- eightish years of k5 for me (at least since I posted my first comment; I may.


--
<vladl> I am reading the making of the atomic bong - modern science
Procrastination (1.66 / 3) (#169)
by Greener on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 03:51:06 PM EST

I usually end up here when I run out of other sites to read at work.

Sometimes when I'm desperate I'll check Fark too.

It's beautiful to watch the decay (2.66 / 3) (#171)
by m50d on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 04:24:34 PM EST

This place is like an abandoned railway line. And I guess I have some nostalgia.

What killed it was, I think, 4chan. For a time, you had the most intelligent comment on the web. Now those days are gone and I have no idea where to get them back. So I come here to relieve the old times.

7 years for me (1.66 / 3) (#175)
by ff on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 05:19:16 PM EST

I have been around for 7 years or so.  I only visit a few times a year though.

Why?  I dunno, sometimes there is good stuff but the story volume is too low for me to bother checking all the time.  If I check every day for a week and nothing sparks my interest then I will probably stop checking, eventually forgetting the site exists for a while.

Then I mosey back in when someone links here from another site.

Couldn't remember when I started...6 years ago (1.66 / 3) (#176)
by Abominable Abitur on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 06:55:24 PM EST

Went back through my diaries and comments. I guess I used it as a blog, but anonymously. My brother was on here, he pointed me to k5 intitially but he moved on. I stayed. It was fun for most of the reasons that other's have already stated.

I met fleece while in Australia. We had beers. I was in transition and have been weaned from the webosphere more and more by the subtle inanities of life. I don't have the intarweb at home anymore and I'd rather get my work done than waste hours of time reading diaries.

Except for today of course.

"Terrorism is only a viable "political activist" method for marginalized nutjobs, bottom line. The backlash that it causes makes it intractable for any reasonable ideology. Which is why you don't generally see wild athiest suicide bombers in america's streets." - lonelyhobo

Not a dadgum clue.. (1.25 / 4) (#178)
by CindySueWho on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 09:19:30 PM EST

Clueless, even.. My user name says I've been here since before I wised up and realized just how easily they could be identifiable.. These days now it seems like they're chosen specifically to be that distinguishable..

My user ID number says somewhere in between ff's 7 years and Abominable Abitur's 6.. Works for what I'm remembering, that my finding K5 had something to do with what basically was a (now defunct) blogging spot as a Lifetips "favorite website" guru circa 2002..

Rarely comment although I've had many a reaction written then thought the better of posting, especially when things got a little "tense"..

On one or two of the particularly "tenser" times around here, consciously only hung in there because I'd already been here so long (in Internet years)..

I don't know.. Reminds me kind of this little, TINY neighborhood bar that used to be in Homestead, all by its lonesome on a less traveled side avenue.. On 230'something, if Memory serves..

In the late afternoon.. Just before the evening regulars, "the kids", show up..

The company you're in is small..

Very small..

Familiar..

Comfortable just because you've been hanging out together for so long..

Funny how some things don't change.. Just like that bar back in '94, '95 post Hurricane Andrew, nobody here really knows me.. I come in, sit down, hang out for a few, just enough off to the side to translate into I'm really okay here alone..

Never treated badly..

And so I stay..

And read.. :)

Cyber hugs to everyone.. Please be safe out there.. :)

Peace and best wishes from North Georgia..

It's not an either/or proposition. (2.00 / 3) (#179)
by BJH on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 09:25:05 PM EST

I regularly read/comment on/troll/laugh at/get bored of/come back to the following:

/.
k5
2ch
4chan
reddit

In fact, those sites comprise about 90% of my browsing time (if you also add Wackipedia in there).
--
Roses are red, violets are blue.
I'm schizophrenic, and so am I.
-- Oscar Levant

I've been here since rusty made bank (2.80 / 5) (#181)
by bride of spidy on Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 11:23:37 PM EST

Raising the dough to keep k5 up.

(Obviously I've been through several accounts)

And I can tell you exactly why I come back over and over again: MICHAEL CRAWFORD

It's really the main draw to K5. It's really hard to find a perpetual train wreck like that guy. I know it's mean of me but it's the truth.


Glad to Be of Service (2.00 / 2) (#215)
by MichaelCrawford on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 12:01:56 PM EST

Perhaps it's worth reflecting on how I could do so well, given what a train wreck my whole life has been.

Most of those who share my diagnosis have to get by on the disability check. Very few are able to hold any kind of real job.

Also, as crazy as I've been, in my whole life I've spent maybe a total of three months in psychiatric hospitals - and half that when I was first diagnosed.

I know lots of people who are admitted that much every single year.


--

Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


[ Parent ]

I have ads to run from when I won a poetry contest (3.00 / 5) (#183)
by clambake on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 01:05:12 AM EST

I won second place in Rusty's haiku contest many years ago, the prize was 3000 free ad impressions.  I still have not used them yet.

I figure if I keep coming back (2.50 / 2) (#184)
by ksandstr on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 01:50:17 AM EST

One day I'll be the low-UID guy who can tell the kids to STFU because I've got a pair of shoes that're older than them. And then to gerroff mah lawn.

Fin.
STFU, mah shoe oldr n u! gerrof mah lawn = (none / 1) (#193)
by CodeWright on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:26:36 PM EST



--
A: Because it destroys the flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top posting dumb? --clover_kicker

[ Parent ]
Yep, it's on my RSS reader at My Yahoo (1.66 / 3) (#186)
by chroma on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 10:26:57 AM EST



I keep coming back... (1.33 / 3) (#194)
by CodeWright on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:27:55 PM EST

...so I can post comments like this.

--
A: Because it destroys the flow of conversation.
Q: Why is top posting dumb? --clover_kicker

k5 is in my RSS. (1.66 / 3) (#195)
by haflinger on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 12:45:22 PM EST

Most of the posters here strike me as new though. Then again, I'm from the time before Egil.

Did people from the future send George Carlin back in time to save rusty and K5? - leviramsey
So at least I have eternal life... (1.50 / 2) (#219)
by leviramsey on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 09:55:03 PM EST

...in your .sig



[ Parent ]
1300-odd comments (2.66 / 3) (#197)
by davidduncanscott on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 02:22:19 PM EST

mostly from ~2003, I think. I miss medham and who was that one prick, LickTheBlade? KissTheSword? Something like that.

Mostly I lurk. I don't even remember how to find mu UID, but my first comment was apparently 7/21/2000.

KissTheBlade aka bc aka euroderf (none / 0) (#202)
by it certainly is on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 06:06:44 PM EST

aka Lovers Arrival, The. Amongst others. Nice chap.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

Thanks (none / 0) (#207)
by davidduncanscott on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 08:41:12 PM EST

Yes, that sounds right, and yes, on balance, a nice enough guy as I recall. Certainly articulate.

I never got the whole multiple-account thing, but then I never got the whole clever-name thing either. I yam what I yam (on a good day.)

So is KtB still around here under some name or another?

[ Parent ]

He might be around. (none / 0) (#237)
by it certainly is on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 09:27:13 AM EST

He disappeared for a long time and claimed he was in prison. I'm not sure if it's lies or the truth, but he's either found other things to do or other names to post under.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.
[ Parent ]

k5 seems not to have lost it. (2.50 / 2) (#198)
by blufox on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 03:58:04 PM EST

lurking for 5 or so years.
unlike others k5 still seems to remain the same.

.
I agree, (none / 0) (#213)
by k31 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 02:44:40 AM EST

I mean, when I first came, they were more in-depth articles but the personalities present seemed the same.


Your dollar is you only Word, the wrath of it your only fear. He who has an EAR to hear....
[ Parent ]
~10 yr, reason: unique signal (3.00 / 2) (#200)
by shpoffo on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 05:17:28 PM EST

Kuro5hin remains one of the most unusual communities online.  Very unique kind of language and meme patterns.  I keep watching the RSS for interesting floating bits.

lazy but not forgetting (2.50 / 2) (#201)
by easilyodd on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 05:36:55 PM EST

I don't participate, but I'm still here.

Fading echoes of longstanding habit... (2.00 / 2) (#205)
by skyknight on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 08:03:15 PM EST

Also, I keep hoping that trhurler's death was an elaborate hoax.

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
Just in time, I am. (2.50 / 2) (#210)
by k31 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 09:58:23 PM EST

I haven't read anything in a few months. Or days. I'm not sure. Time has been weird for me, lately.

I joined back in Sept. 2001, I think, so that measns more than 7 years.

Wait, is that even possible?

Anyhow, I think K5 has a lot of smart people. Most of whom think that they are smarter than everyone else, and are quite abrasively vocal in saying it, but whatever... at least there dialogue is mostly in English rather than IMspeak or retard.

So, although I generally get "you're an idiot, stfu" whenever I even make a diary entry, I still prefer that to "ur maj fail luserr." or whatever... K5 oozes with an industry of expression which is simply absent from most everywhere.

There used to be a ton of varied, detailed articles... even if nothing new is written, I haven't read all of the old ones... and I haven't even started on the food recipies.

Plus I wrote a paper once citing K5 as the future of social organisation... or something of that matter, so I guess I generally like it here.

I've just been time-travelling too much to visit, recently.... Or something.


Your dollar is you only Word, the wrath of it your only fear. He who has an EAR to hear....

Use RSS. (2.50 / 2) (#216)
by awyeah on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 05:41:10 PM EST

I don't stop by too often anymore since the site's not that active.  But I subscribe to the RSS feed... still see some fun stuff coming across.

It's been said before. (2.50 / 2) (#217)
by sudogeek on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 06:17:26 PM EST

Who wants to read my boring blog. It was all political, anyway.

Now that W has left the building finally, I've less to rant about. I presume I will begin to wail on Obama but somehow I feel restrained. It still would seem a little racist even if it's about policy and performance.  Maybe one day, we will truly have a post-racial environment where a black leader can be assaulted without the inevitable murmurs of racism from his supporters.

At k5, there is an audience and a forum where stories on gerontophilia, pedophilia, etc. can be read. I think the readers here are more open and less restrained - they'll read your stuff and then tell you to stuff it when it's drech.

You're an arrogant, condescending, ignorant dipshit. - trhurler

Because K5 (2.66 / 3) (#218)
by levesque on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 06:18:32 PM EST

is like a big blob of words, it's often interesting, and I can have conversations with it

Still some good articles (2.00 / 3) (#223)
by sypher on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 04:35:25 AM EST

I pick up the Kuro5hin digest newsletter, sometimes there is not a lot in it, but other times there is an interesting article to read. I came back the other day via link on Reddit about surviving a Zombie attack, random things bring me back.

I dreamt of it once, now I fear it dreams of me
not a trainwreck... (1.66 / 3) (#224)
by mikelist on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 06:42:12 AM EST

...but a floating junkyard, where you are apt to come upon useful or amusing information or context.

when i first arrived on k5, i was trying to learn about pc computing in general and linux in specific, and there are still articles occasionally that catch my eye for that reason. but i decided not to take the it route to making my personal fortune so now it's my personal version of art linkletter's "kids say the darnedest things".

everybody knows the less bright outnumber the bright, but nobody wants to believe they are are the outliers. and iq scores only predict a certain kind of brightness.

also that i am unlikely to meet any of you, so you don't really know if i'm a springer spaniel.

eh, more likely than you think! (none / 1) (#234)
by anaesthetica on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 09:31:14 PM EST

i am unlikely to meet any of you,

I've met on person through k5 so far. Me and LilDebbie had a ghay5 homo-hookup in a bar in Washington, DC's "Chinatown" several months ago.

Sure, meetups require some effort to set up, and usually some coincidence of event/location, but it's not impossible.

If you are a springer spaniel, I will take you on a walk, throw a frisbee a predetermined-subject-to-negotiation number of times, rub your belly once, and scratch behind your ears. Let me know.

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
so you are saying... (3.00 / 2) (#243)
by mikelist on Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 05:04:56 PM EST

...that lildebbie is a cocker spaniel?

[ Parent ]
Forget it Mike, it was Chinatown (none / 0) (#244)
by anaesthetica on Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 05:37:44 PM EST

A Shih Tzu.

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
k5 is great (2.75 / 4) (#225)
by Gruntathon on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 07:05:30 AM EST

Sure, it used to be better. But nowhere else is as good as whats left. I get satisfaction trawling through the diaries and queue and especially comments here that I wouldn't be able to get anywhere else. Sure there's some bullshit, but it's easier on the eyes than most other places.

Also, I like the layout, design etc. It's comforting, and worksafe.
__________
If they hadn't been such quality beasts (despite being so young) it would have been a nightmare - good self-starting, capable hands are your finest friend. -- Anonymous CEO
And that's the fucked up thing (none / 0) (#246)
by ksandstr on Thu Jan 29, 2009 at 05:18:07 AM EST

K5 may be dying. K5 may be a pale shadow of what it used to be. K5 may not have aged well.

But it's still far better than those sites that're friendlier towards the unwashed masses. And those sites came around quite a bit after K5.

So much for pandering to those people who aren't yet users, I guess.

Fin.
[ Parent ]

it is what it is (3.00 / 3) (#227)
by ccdotnet on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 07:52:35 AM EST

Hopefully the length of this comment thread puts an end to the boring and pointless observation, "K5's dying".

Obviously it isn't. Sure it isn't what it was at its peak, but nothing is/we sure aren't/who out there is.

What remains is worth something, or the 50 folk who've posted over 200 comments truly have nowhere better to be.

my 2 cent (1.66 / 3) (#228)
by dhk on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 10:10:30 AM EST

I came here some 4 years ago and even though I didn't do a large deal of posting I kept browsing a great deal.
It might interest you that my trigger to come here in the first place was the "imminent death" of my favourite german platform (www.nensch.de) which resembled K5 in more than one perspective. This thing is by now really dead, meaning that there are less than 10 comments per week and most of the "family members" are gone. Attempts to revitalize it have met with the opinion that in these times blogs simply have made the entire idea obsolete. Even though I guess there is some truth in that argument it isn't the whole story.
As you might see here in K5 which is - regardless of all the epitaphs - still alive.
And kicking.
- please forgive my bad english, I'm not a native speaker
I come around every two weeks or so (2.00 / 4) (#229)
by Big Sexxy Joe on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 10:14:30 AM EST

I used to spend an inordinate amount of time here.  But then the quality of both serious articles and the trolling declined.

Because I spent so much time here in the past I still come by out of curiosity every so often.  I do it for the same reason you swing by former residences and email ex-girlfriends.  I generally don't find anything worth reading and I don't leave many comments.

I'm like Jesus, only better.
Democracy Now! - your daily, uncensored, corporate-free grassroots news hour

I remember you (none / 0) (#235)
by anaesthetica on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 09:33:26 PM EST

The old Big Sexxy Joe was far sexier though. What happened?

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
Meh. (1.66 / 3) (#230)
by jmzero on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 12:04:09 PM EST

I used to come here a fair bit, now not so much.

I posted a few stories a few years ago.  I notice that they don't show under "my stories".  That's too bad, I would have enjoyed going back to see if there were some new comments or anything.

There used to be a lot of interesting comments and discussion here.  I guess I come back here every once in a while to see if somehow those interesting people have come back - because I can't find anywhere else on the net they might have gone to.  

Perhaps they're not letting me know on purpose.  I did kind of troll a bit.
.
"Let's not stir that bag of worms." - my lovely wife

Your stories are still there, you just have to che (none / 1) (#232)
by MotorMachineMercenary on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 03:03:36 PM EST

ck the "search archives" (or somesuch) checkbox.

--
MMM, tenured K5 uberdouchebag
- Herr mirleid


[ Parent ]
Cool - thanks (none / 0) (#233)
by jmzero on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 03:38:04 PM EST

..though looking at it now, I was sure I had more stories.  Maybe they died in queue and thus weren't preserved for posterity.
.
"Let's not stir that bag of worms." - my lovely wife
[ Parent ]
Because we're here (1.66 / 3) (#231)
by Verteiron on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 01:30:27 PM EST

I lurk here because I enjoy the comments, outrageous trolls impress and amuse me as they strive toward artistic perfection, and because I keep meaning to write an article here.

Also, people think I'm a sock puppet.
--
Prisoners! Seize each other!

You are welcome. I appreciate my fans. (none / 1) (#264)
by Hiphopopotamus on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 01:01:44 PM EST


_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

Posting to see how long I've been here. $ (2.00 / 3) (#236)
by current president of the usa on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 12:58:53 AM EST


Signed with a Presidential Seal

Nope (1.50 / 4) (#238)
by brunes69 on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 01:37:10 PM EST

Why? Because I am subscribed to the K5 front page RSS feed, and this is the *MASSIVE* selection of stories that are posted since BEFORE Christmas (that is over a month ago now) # How to game the U.S. higher-education system # K5 Roll Call: You still reading? If so, why? # The Magic Head # Predictions for 2009 # Fuck Christmas, we aren't having it this year. Yeah, 4 stories made it. In over a month, four measly postings. The problem with K5 is a severe lack of content posted. I stopped reading K5 when editors became so self involved that they stopped allowing postings by regular people. The mod scheme on this site needs VAST adjustment. A story that has like, 5 positive votes of other members who are actively posting things, regardless of how many negatives it got, should be auto-posted - period.

---There is no Spoon---
this philosophy is called "productivism" (none / 1) (#239)
by anaesthetica on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 05:51:54 PM EST

it's a class-based but non-Marxian analysis of society, notably advocated by Thorstein Veblen

Veblen thought that all the productive elements of society ought to be the class with political power, whereas the leisure class and stupid service people should shut the fuck up

brunes69 (oh how clever and mature that '69' in the screenname is) sees fit to criticize the site for not producing content for his (her?) pleasure, while at the same time refusing to create content.  brunes69 complains about some moderation cabal voting down regular-people content, an obviously fatuous comment given that nearly anything barely coherent can be voted to the front page (see most recent article), especially because AUTHORS CANNOT CANCEL THEIR OWN GODDAMN INCOMPLETE SUBMISSIONS RUSTY CAN YOU HEAR ME

this is like people who do not vote complaining about the results of democratic elections

in summation, i would like to simply reiterate the implicit point of the foregoing, which is that brunes69 should eat a dick

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
Thanks for making my point for me (none / 1) (#263)
by brunes69 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 11:05:23 AM EST

Thank you for proving my above comment about how elitist and unproductive K5 has grown over the past 7 years.

As you have only seemingly been a member of this site for the past two years and thus have not witnessed the grand downfall of this site from what it once was, I will not hold you *too* accountable for your remarkably soft-witted comments. brunes69 (oh how clever and mature that '69' in the screenname is)...

Yes - because one's screen name has a large bearing on who they are or what they have to offer! Never mind the fact that, like I said, I first joined this site 7 years ago when I was much younger and the web was a totally different place.

...sees fit to criticize the site for not producing content for his (her?) pleasure, while at the same time refusing to create content.

As I have stated in the past, back when people actually approved articles for this site, and allowed MLP postings, I contributed to this site more than once. Several articles were submitted and a few were even approved.

Why do I not still do this? Because when people have items worth posting they more apt to post them on a site where they will actually BE APPROVED.

brunes69 complains about some moderation cabal voting down regular-people content, an obviously fatuous comment given that nearly anything barely coherent can be voted to the front page (see most recent article)

Again, more elitism. What is "regular-people content"?

K5 has really lost it's luster from back in the early 2000's.

---There is no Spoon---
[ Parent ]

I might expect an older user to know how to find (none / 1) (#275)
by anaesthetica on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 06:58:31 PM EST

their way around k5.  I guess I would be wrong however, since you seem incapable of figuring out how to click on the "search in archives" button, when searching through my past postings.  If you were capable of clicking on that button, you would find that I have been here not two years ago but six+ years ago, about a year after yourself.  So unless the major fall of k5 happened between late 2001 and late 2002 (which it didn't), then I remember the golden old days just as well as you do.

Calling you out on your bullshit ("I, brunes69, refuse to write content for a community-driven website, and yet I simultaneously fault said website for not having enough content") is not indicative of "how elitist and unproductive k5 has become."  You are the example of elitism and unproductivity--you assert that you are older than the current crop and can remember the good old days and are therefore entitled to cast aspersions on the people actually participating in the site, while also refusing to produce any content yourself.  You are the perfect example of what you dislike about k5.

If the voting down of MLPs is what ruined the site for you, honestly, you belong at Digg or Metafilter.  People legitimately disliked MLPs, because any retard could post a link with a snarky one-liner attached and call it an MLP submission.  Meanwhile, someone who wanted a couple hours or maybe a day to actually do some research and write up a longer piece on the same subject would be beaten to the FP by a no-effort, no-thought, no-value-added MLP.  Since k5's core strength is well-written pieces, not "LOLOLOL CHECK OUT THIS LINK GUISE" MLPs, I have no problem with the anti-MLP cabal that used to roam around here in 2003-2004.

Since you're painfully out of touch, such a cabal no longer exists here.  The only things that get voted down in the queue anymore are MichaelCrawford's unfinished, bizarre, hypergraphia screeds ("ATTENTION MODS, PLEASE EXTEND THE EDIT QUEUE DEADLINE FOR ME AGAIN") and sye's pseudo-poetic nonsense.  Hell, even an Orion Blastar article finally made it to the FP, after years of being voted down.

So, to sum up, post something half-decent to the queue or eat a dick.

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
I don't want to be here (2.33 / 3) (#240)
by psychologist on Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 03:46:41 AM EST

They keep trying to kill me, but I hide and wait. Then I reappear. A bit like a mental illness or an STD.

Don't kill men, my friends, don't kill men.

I'm also posting to see (1.33 / 3) (#241)
by stuaart on Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 12:29:52 PM EST

how long I've been here...

Linkwhore: [Hidden stories.] Baldrtainment: Corporate concubines and Baldrson: An Introspective


Sort of, and boredom. (1.66 / 3) (#242)
by antizeus on Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 01:49:23 PM EST

I don't remember when I signed up, but my oldest comment is dated 12 Nov 2000. Wow, that seems like a long time. I swing by every month or so, mainly because I have a bookmark at work and sometimes I get bored with the other sites I frequent while not doing my job. I'll typically skim/read 1-2 stories and skim the top-level comments to see if there's anything interesting going on, or alternatively a CTS orgy. I haven't looked at the diary section in quite a while.
-- $SIGNATURE
No Good Reason (1.66 / 3) (#247)
by GlennC on Thu Jan 29, 2009 at 10:32:08 AM EST

Just a curious combination of boredom and inertia.  Wish there was a better reason.


That's my take on it. Take it for what you think it's worth.

Jeez (1.25 / 4) (#248)
by hershmire on Thu Jan 29, 2009 at 11:00:21 AM EST

My first post was 7 years ago and my last post was 4 years ago. How time has flown. Is there hope for K5? Only if the original contributors can get over the heartburn and only if the trolls move on somewhere else.
FIXME: Insert quote about procrastination
hmm (1.66 / 3) (#249)
by drivers on Thu Jan 29, 2009 at 01:20:57 PM EST

This is my 3rd comment in 6 years. Why do I keep reading? Because k5 is just different. Believe it or not the intelligence level is higher here than almost anywhere else.

wow, my uid is 339 -nt- (none / 0) (#250)
by drivers on Thu Jan 29, 2009 at 01:22:46 PM EST



[ Parent ]
For values of anywhere == Slashdot and Digg (none / 1) (#252)
by Vampire Zombie Abu Musab al Zarqawi on Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 11:23:30 AM EST

Yeah, it's not bad for an internet forum, but it's still pretty bad.

[ Parent ]
i like the clean layout / design [nt] (2.75 / 4) (#251)
by K4w0ru on Fri Jan 30, 2009 at 05:38:20 PM EST



I'm not! (1.40 / 5) (#253)
by J'raxis on Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 06:14:02 PM EST

I’m not actually here.

— J’raxis 270145

[ J’raxis·Com | Liberty in your lifetime ]

honestly (1.75 / 4) (#254)
by TRASG0 on Sat Jan 31, 2009 at 11:48:19 PM EST

I don't know.  I miss the good old days.  I keep checking to see if there is a good front page article, like the uberman sleep schedule or that awesome novella by localroger about an all-powerful benevolent supercomputer, or the article about getting dental work in Mexico (after I read that, I went and did it).  Man, that stuff was great.  

People post good content for egoboo - but in a place overrun with trolls there is no egoboo to be got.  I know Rusty says that Trolls bring out truth or whatever it is that he said . . . but if I want truth I will go to church.  I come here for entertainment, and I haven't been getting it here in years.  I have been getting it from metafilter and boingboing.

And preemptively to everyone who snarks this comment: screw you.
sorry no sig now

Meh .. Not sure (1.66 / 3) (#255)
by stevey on Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 05:56:59 PM EST

I've been here since at least 2005 according to my userinfo. But I can't see an "account created" flag - so I can't be more specific. These days I just look over the site every week or two. I want it to improve, but the trolling makes the submission of a new story low on my list of priorities... Highlight of my time here? The tales from the hive. Love the bees!


Steve
---
Debian System Administration


The queue is actually pretty free from trolling (none / 1) (#260)
by anaesthetica on Mon Feb 02, 2009 at 09:14:20 PM EST

The self-destructiveness of k5 is mainly in the Diaries and comments.  But anything that meets even a baseline for coherence and lucidity can make it through the queue.  Doesn't need to be a troll, and the ensuing discussion will only be about 20-30% trolling in the comments (unless you are unfortunate enough to have CTS go off on some retarded thread that devolves into ad hominems--then you'll be at about 50% trolling).

In any case, the moral is: submit to the queue, because the assholes, griefers, and trolls generally put their worst habits into abeyance when voting on queue stories.  It's worth it to have fresh content.

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
Standby service since 2000 (1.66 / 3) (#256)
by redelm on Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 08:28:56 PM EST

I've been reading and posting since 2000 at least. Maybe before, I just can't remember.

K5 has always lived in the shadow of ToS. That's fine and necessary in case ToS goes wonky. Not likely to disappear altogether, it might not cover some item of interest where the owners might disagree with the posters.

Backup is good. Don't worry about the idle, but there has been some loss as special advocates do not get sufficiently voted down.



what the fuck is ToS? (3.00 / 3) (#257)
by TRASG0 on Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 11:12:55 PM EST

are you talking about fucking slashdot?

K5 in the shadow of slashdot?  Maybe for linux nutriders.  I always thought slashdot was for eggheads.  K5 being in the shadow of slashdot would be like Achewood being in the shadow of User Friendly.
sorry no sig now
[ Parent ]

TOS = The Other Site (1.66 / 3) (#258)
by redelm on Sun Feb 01, 2009 at 11:39:27 PM EST

Yes, I am referring to the punctuation site. And while K5 has meandered under the influence of residual posters, it started and remains in my mind a sort of back-stop. Better story selection, variable moderation and occasionally fewer idiots. Occasionally more.

This is of course my opinion and YMMV. I was not asked to post or criticise your opinion.



yes (none / 0) (#261)
by TRASG0 on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 08:22:17 AM EST

sorry for the somewhat uncivil tone; the word fuck was meant purely as a flavor enhancer.  Like msg.
sorry no sig now
[ Parent ]
States rise and fall (2.50 / 6) (#259)
by Scrymarch on Mon Feb 02, 2009 at 09:25:21 AM EST

Empires disintegrate and coalesce.

K5 is not what it was, probably for the worse; I am not what I was, probably for the better. But there is no other wide ranging, interestingly skeptical magazine site on the web which runs as a participatory community. You can post with extreme infrequency and still get an audience without having to be part of any circular blog recognition hazing ritual. "Slow-blogging" before blogging; "The New Seriousness" before it was new.

Now the k5 community nowadays is often a participatory community of smartarse adolescents in a train carriage, egging each other on to shout PRICK a little louder. The diary sub list makes it pretty easy to ignore them if you're not in the mood.

So I go on pretending it's 2002, and that posters gone sour will send a better article to the queue next time. It's convenient. There's no clear equivalent. A ruined Nineveh is still Nineveh.

Accepted (1.66 / 3) (#262)
by redelm on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 09:52:07 AM EST

Yes, MSG. And equally toxic. The bandwidth of email/posts/texts is so low that tone is hard to convey. So smileys become as important as punctuation. Yet still imperfect.

Learn how to click on "Reply to This" $ (3.00 / 2) (#274)
by anaesthetica on Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 04:55:43 PM EST


—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
7+ years, I THINK (1.75 / 4) (#276)
by el_guapo on Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 08:57:36 AM EST

I think I joined right before 9/1/1 (Sorry for the non-USians for the US mile-stone). I don't remember exactly, I just know I have a fairly low UID and I seem to remember posting before the towers came down.

Anyone remember Bubba? The Proliant 8000 I donated? That was around that time (poor Bubba dies, he was an engineering mule I mooched off of a friend of mine when we were still Compaq) - Bubba ran K5 until he died an untimely death.
mas cerveza, por favor mirrors, manifestos, etc.

UID 4381 - no message/comment (none / 0) (#277)
by el_guapo on Thu Feb 05, 2009 at 08:58:27 AM EST


mas cerveza, por favor mirrors, manifestos, etc.
[ Parent ]
wow (none / 1) (#299)
by el_guapo on Tue Mar 03, 2009 at 04:49:55 PM EST

someone figgered out my password, i haven't posted a comment on here in years
mas cerveza, por favor mirrors, manifestos, etc.
[ Parent ]
So you survived Iraq then (none / 1) (#280)
by Scrymarch on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 08:33:54 AM EST

Bonus.

[ Parent ]
I've been here... I dunno, a couple years anyway. (1.66 / 3) (#278)
by The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy on Fri Feb 06, 2009 at 05:23:43 PM EST

There's occasionally some good content. There are occasionally things that make me laugh... and hey, how can you not root for something that just won't die?

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I'm a pompous windbag, I take myself far too seriously, and I single-handedly messed up K5 by causing the fiction section to be created. --localroger

Mr. Garrison (none / 1) (#279)
by anaesthetica on Fri Feb 06, 2009 at 06:13:07 PM EST

"I don't trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die."

k5 has been dying for almost 10 years now...

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
I haven't cleaned out my Bookmarks (1.66 / 3) (#281)
by dr zeus on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 12:29:07 PM EST

Thanks for the reminder.

Actually, I stopped coming a few years ago when I changed jobs and no longer had a computer in my office.  Once that place cratered, I just never got in the habit of checking K5 once or twice a day like I did before.

Now, I hit the K5 bookmark now and then just because I see it and wonder what's there.  Still looking for a good localroger story (maybe a sequel to what happened to the people stranded on the Earth with no metals), or a beekeeper diary, or something else similar that you can't find elsewhere.  

I miss the daily riddle diary and the choose your own adventures.  

Man there are a lot of people here who really like (1.50 / 2) (#291)
by Hiphopopotamus on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 10:45:12 AM EST

the gayest stuff on this site. Amazing...
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I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

I think some of the accounts rotate (1.66 / 3) (#282)
by noseyscholar on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 04:04:17 PM EST

I rarely visit this site, but my account is still quite active ;)

Been lurking for years... (1.66 / 3) (#283)
by Kiyooka on Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 01:03:56 AM EST

Stopped coming here for a bit, but there's something edgy about kuro5hin that keeps me coming back. I guess I come back hoping that it'll revive, but it never does. Sad.

I show up to see if local roger has (2.00 / 2) (#284)
by yuriwho on Wed Feb 11, 2009 at 02:55:15 AM EST

posted anything new. Also I want to see what's happening in the K5  counterculture.

So, to sum up most responses, (1.00 / 5) (#285)
by Hiphopopotamus on Fri Feb 13, 2009 at 09:44:25 AM EST

K5 is mostly populated by lurking Douche Bags who contribute nothing and sit around waiting for LR to post more sci-fi kiddie porn. That says a lot.
_________________

I'm In LOVE!

Actually, I don't. (2.50 / 2) (#286)
by For Whom The Bells Troll on Mon Feb 16, 2009 at 04:40:56 AM EST

I have an RSS feed thingy on my Slashdot account for K5, and occassionally glance at the headlines from the relative safety of that green-tinted space capsule. I only post this here to say I exist, that I monitor things from afar, and that I will return more frequently if and when there's more brainy content that used to be here pre-2004.

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The Big F Word.
If you're not willing to write anything, (3.00 / 2) (#287)
by anaesthetica on Mon Feb 16, 2009 at 03:14:37 PM EST

then stay at Slashdot.

—I'm the little engine that didn't.
k5: our trolls go to eleven
[A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


[ Parent ]
Fair enough. (2.00 / 3) (#289)
by For Whom The Bells Troll on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 01:19:47 AM EST

I think it's a chicken-and-egg thing; you'll get more people like me posting stories here if there are more stories being posted here. Somebody's gotta take that bite, but I don't see myself as being that person, sorry.

That said, don't be surprised if I do indeed post a story here one of these days.



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The Big F Word.
[ Parent ]
Don't post Slashdot articles here (1.33 / 3) (#290)
by Hiphopopotamus on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 10:44:13 AM EST

techie articles are boring.
_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

Didn't say I would. (1.50 / 2) (#292)
by For Whom The Bells Troll on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 11:01:23 PM EST

Yup, I also come to K5 to get away from tech. :-)

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The Big F Word.
[ Parent ]
I seldom come here now. (2.25 / 4) (#288)
by Vesperto on Mon Feb 16, 2009 at 06:55:42 PM EST

I used to come here a lot, then trolls got the best of it, then i droped it. I come here every now and then when i'm curious to know if the site still exist or if i want to ask a question.
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back in jack (1.25 / 4) (#293)
by parasite on Thu Feb 19, 2009 at 11:25:48 PM EST

what a bunch of flipping wankars...

I come because this is the site i first posted my first "blog like" thing in my life.

It suffered of verbosity and short-livedness

I clicked the wrong link. (1.75 / 4) (#294)
by Jordan Block on Fri Feb 20, 2009 at 12:44:55 AM EST

I'm here today because I clicked the wrong link in my bookmarks.  

I check in maybe every 4 or 5 months these days, been here since 2000 or so. Theres still occasionally something that will catch my interest.

Old Bookmarks and I still have an account (1.66 / 3) (#295)
by digitalh2o on Sat Feb 21, 2009 at 01:49:54 AM EST

I hadn't been to the site in YEARS and then I rediscovered the site in my bookmarks a few months ago. I was even more surprised to find my log in still worked. I now come back about once a month because people aren't talking about either (1) the economy, or (2) how to get more followers on Twitter.

Heheh (1.00 / 2) (#296)
by Matt Oneiros on Sun Mar 01, 2009 at 03:02:45 AM EST

I just stopped in the other day because I had some fond memories... I haven't commented since '03...

Lobstery is not real
signed the cow
when stating that life is merely an illusion
and that what you love is all that's real
Just plain bored... (1.66 / 3) (#298)
by mengel on Tue Mar 03, 2009 at 02:22:39 PM EST

Pretty much, if there's nothing going on in any of the other blogs I read, and I  have something I'm avoiding doing at work, sure enough, I end up down at the bottom of my list, looking over k5...

Occasionally, there's something really interesting here, even still.

I guess it's that good old intermittent reinforcement idea coming to the fore.

The internet is a small place (2.66 / 3) (#300)
by Nursie on Thu Mar 05, 2009 at 08:51:13 AM EST

Once you've got bored of fark, slashdot, the news, read penny arcade, dilbert and xkcd... well it's K5 or actually doing some work. It's a tough call.

Meta Sigs suck.

Roll Call (1.66 / 3) (#301)
by scorpion on Sat Mar 07, 2009 at 04:22:38 PM EST

Here I am still picking out the great article to read that you cannot find anywhere else!!

Drop by now and then (1.66 / 3) (#302)
by mikael_j on Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 11:35:53 AM EST

I check K5 every couple of weeks, quality has gone down remarkably since I first came here but every now and then but there's still the occasional good story.
We give a bad name to the internet in general. - Rusty
Please define quality. I'd say it's gone up. (1.00 / 2) (#305)
by Hiphopopotamus on Thu Mar 12, 2009 at 09:33:20 AM EST


_________________

I'm In LOVE!
[ Parent ]

Just plain forgot about it! (1.66 / 3) (#303)
by BOredAtWork on Sun Mar 08, 2009 at 07:13:21 PM EST

Somewhere between growing up and getting a job that keeps me very un-bored at work, I really have no desire at all to spend more time on the computer at home. I'd actually forgotten all about this place for the better part of oh, five years, until about ten minutes ago!

Nostalgia. (1.66 / 3) (#304)
by tzc on Wed Mar 11, 2009 at 12:48:43 AM EST

Me, I just signed in and looked around for the first time in years. I still had new site news to read, from Sept 10, 2007 – Kuro5hin is a pay site for new users, now? Weird.

No clue whatsoever (1.50 / 2) (#306)
by Gorgonzola on Sun Mar 15, 2009 at 06:57:33 AM EST

As in, a bit of nostalgia and a bit of morbid fascination. And I still quite like the concept behind K5. It just won't die, but it won't quite succeed either, apparently.
--
A page a day keeps ignorance of our cultural past away, or you can do your bit for collaborative media even if you haven't anything new or insightful to say.

Well.. (1.50 / 2) (#307)
by codespace on Mon Mar 16, 2009 at 03:37:30 PM EST

I poke my head in every year or three, see if the site's still active, see who's currently yammering the most loudly in comments, then forget about it entirely.

Overall, the quality of the site has gone down sharply since I was actively voting on stories, but I'm sure that's just my opinion. Everything lately seems geared for pompous expositions, and brevity seems to have left the area some time ago.

Either way, still an interesting place to come look around a bit from time to time.

_____
today on how it's made: kitchen knives, mannequins, socks and hypodermic needles.

I look in once in a while (none / 1) (#308)
by phr on Mon May 18, 2009 at 04:52:43 AM EST

There is still interesting stuff sometimes.  I happened to browse right now because I was thinking of writing a diary about a technical idea I've been thinking about.  I don't know if I'll actually get around to that though.

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