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Homicide salsa?

By aphrael in MLP
Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 09:42:46 PM EST
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Apparently there's a bit of a controversy over Homicide Salsa. Seems some activists in Chicago are upset about it.


What makes this case more interesting is that it's a black businessman selling the stuff --- and it's cousin, Second-Degree Homicide Salsa --- and white activists complaining about how inappropriate it is to sell anything named 'homicide' in the inner cities.

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Salsa of Choice
o Homicide Salsa 15%
o Senora Juarez' Home Brew 12%
o Pace Picante Sauce 19%
o Cheese-Wiz 9%
o Local grocery store salsa 23%
o What's salsa? 19%

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Homicide salsa? | 27 comments (15 topical, 12 editorial, 0 hidden)
haha (2.20 / 5) (#4)
by boxed on Tue Oct 17, 2000 at 08:56:41 PM EST

This is just so absurd it cracks me up! A priest demanding to stop a product because of it's name, and it's not even sacrilegious! hehe

Absurd, but business as usual for this guy. (2.50 / 2) (#19)
by RocketJeff on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 01:39:49 PM EST

Reading the article, I came across this:
The Rev. Michael Pfleger, a Roman Catholic priest known nationally for his crusades against alcohol billboards in African American neighborhoods, marched into a small South Side grocery store this summer accompanied by a Fox Television news crew...
I think this says it all about. Pfleger is all about doing anything where he can get cameras to show himself 'doing good.' Anyone from the Chicago area has seen this clown on TV doing his 'I know what's best for the black community' act (and, yes, he is white).

I really think he's a closet racist, he seems to know better then anyone else what is best for the black community.

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This is strange (2.60 / 5) (#10)
by TheDude on Tue Oct 17, 2000 at 11:55:39 PM EST

I think this is the first MLP I've voted +1 to. I normally just vote don't care and let someone with bandwidth click on the link, but hell, this is an odd link. They can't sell their Homicide Salsa because the location where they're selling it had 782 homicides from 1989 to 1999. Well yeah, that's a ridiculous fact, but to say the people selling this stuff are glamorizing that fact is an even more ridiculous statement.

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The priest... (1.75 / 4) (#11)
by stuartf on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 04:09:26 AM EST

...recently paid for prostitutes time so he could preach the gospel to them. I wonder if this might be the gospel of luuuurve?

That damn priest. (2.50 / 2) (#14)
by Defect on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 09:17:42 AM EST

I recently patented the process of "Pay2Preach" and was hoping to soon go public with the inner city implementation. Apparently news of my startup got leaked to that priest and now he's going to pay.

I'm so sick of all these damned priests getting in the way of good old fashioned business.
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God I Love Being 'merican! (2.00 / 4) (#15)
by greyrat on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 09:35:28 AM EST

It means I get a front row seat to observe stupidities like this. +1...and let the games begin!
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How could you leave out Dave's Insanity Sauce? (3.80 / 5) (#16)
by Anonymous 242 on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 09:47:11 AM EST

I can't vote in the poll. :(

When it comes to salsa, Dave's Insanity Sauce is tops.

How can you go wrong with a hot sauce which has a label carrying a warning about keeping it away from one's eyes, small children, and pets?

When will people learn? (4.33 / 6) (#17)
by Anonymous 242 on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 10:42:49 AM EST

Father Pfleger made the same mistake as the religious right did during the controversy surrounding The Last Tempation of Christ.

There is no such thing as bad publicity.

The Last Tempation of Christ was a horrible movie. It had bad acting, an insipid plot and second rate editing. The only good thing to come out of it was the instrumental soundtrack Passion by Peter Gabriel. Left alone, the movie would have flopped.

But tens of thousands of crusading members of the religious right protested about what a sacralidge the movie was. The protests made the national news time and time again. So of course everyone went to see the movie out of curiosity and got rewarded by being bored out their skulls. The religious right bear the sole responsibility for making a money maker out of a movie that would have completely bombed.

Back to Chicago, if Father Pfleger had ignored the hot sauce, odds are it would have stayed a small time local product. Now, with national publicity in papers all over the country, orders will be pouring in for Homicide Salsa. This is the exact kind of break the Moores need to turn their product into a national product.

The biggest problem the Moores face now in making Homicide Salsa a huge moneymaker is getting legal:

One thing the entrepreneurs said they had neglected to do before they sunk $2,000 into their new business was to get a city business license. As soon as everything is legal, however, they intend to start delivering their salsa soon, they said.

Oops.

Isn't it strange (4.00 / 4) (#20)
by ODiV on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 01:56:24 PM EST

A Salsa is released bearing the name "Homicide". Homicide is a sensitive issue in the region because it happens a lot. Which should we get rid of, the salsa or the homicide?

I find it completely absurd that the priest finds the name of the salsa offensive when there's so much else that could be done. I'm sorry that a friend of his had a relative murdered, but it reads as though seeing the word homicide was tougher for him than the actual homicide itself. Losing someone is tough, there's no doubt about it, but you can't expect complete strangers to make it any easier. There's no (current?) law that says you have to be sensitive. I certainly don't think there should be.



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Hmm, too bad... (3.00 / 3) (#22)
by Sheetrock on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 03:35:38 PM EST

...guess I'll have to shelve my Crackhead Brand Shoe Polish idea for a while until this dies down.

I suppose I could see how the connotation of the word 'homicide' might turn some people off from buying this product (I don't know that I'd want any word implying human death describing something I'm about to eat), but isn't there anything better to get worked up over than the name of a condiment? I don't think that this is going to be the deciding factor in whether or not society is going to crumple under the weight of its own immorality. Olestra, on the other hand, I'm not too sure about.

A Priest, an Entrepreneur and an Inner City. (2.00 / 2) (#23)
by quam on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 05:18:55 PM EST

What upsets me about this story is that the 'inner city' is often stereotyped as an insignificant contributor to a nation's economy. In this case, however, there is a gentleman from an economically depressed area who has created a product and is carrying out his own business/corporate development activities.

My only criticism of his practices so far is that he has yet to sell his product via the web.

To the priest --- give this man a break and let the market rule. Criticism for using the term "Homicide" associated with "Salsa" is digging imo. To me, the use of "Homicide" with "Salsa" is clever and brings an impression of a really hot salsa.

If "Homicide Salsa" is unethical/wrong, how about "Salsa Hotter Than Hell?" If the priest's rationale were to be applied to "Salsa Hotter Than Hell," then it too would be immoral because it advances satan and hell, and that is certainly worse than advancing homicide.

Criticism of a brand should be examined in the context of the products/services they represent. Priest, you are not a marketer. Russell Moore, you are an entrepreneur.

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unethical salsa names (none / 0) (#26)
by Anonymous 242 on Thu Oct 19, 2000 at 10:22:48 AM EST

Some salsa and hot sauce names I've seen at the local grocery store

  • Death Salsa
  • Scorned Woman
  • Bloody Day in Paradise
  • Jump Up and Kiss Me With Passion
  • Pain is Good
  • Who Gives a Rats Ass
  • Blair's Sudden Death
  • Acid Rain
  • Brain Damage
  • Jerry's Mustard Gas
  • Ass in Hell
  • F*** Off and Die
  • Hottest F***ing Sauce
  • Rigor Mortis
  • Submission
  • Pure Hell
  • Screaming Sphincter
  • Capital Punishment
  • Hellfire and Damnation
  • Holy S***
  • Last Rites
  • Mean Devil Woman

And there's plenty more. I don't know whether its good or bad the the store the good reverend stumbled into didn't have more options than simply Homicide.

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Being sensitive (3.00 / 1) (#24)
by DefCon5 on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 06:04:40 PM EST

This guy probably has a good idea of a name for his salsa, one that people will remember and maybe that's good for his bottom line. But I can understand why people would be upset. It does mitigate and belittle something that is very serious, turning real human tragedy into something of a joke and commercial exercise. I think as a general rule, whether you have the freedom to do such things or not, it's a good idea to think about what are doing- if it is going to hurt people, maybe you better not do it. That's a good rule to follow generally whenever you are dealing with people under any social circumstance. Because when all is said and done, people's feelings and sensitivities DO matter. For most of us, something like this would seem marginal, perhaps a bit insensitive, but to someone who has lost a close associate or loved one to homicide, this would hurt as bad as getting punched with a fist. I remember once I saw on the news a woman at the airport who had just found out one of her relatives had died in a plane crash. She was jumping up and down screaming and this was shown on the evening news, and if I recall correctly, public reaction was fast and furious. That's an extreme case, but the point being, and I think the general public would agree, when you are using your freedom to the hilt by profiting off someone else's tragedy, don't go whining when it comes back at you in the face.

race issue? (2.00 / 1) (#25)
by enterfornone on Wed Oct 18, 2000 at 11:15:52 PM EST

Why does anything that involves a black person and a white person have to become a race issue. I don't see there should be a difference whether it's a poor black man or a bunch of rich white shareholders. They should be able to name their product what they like. If you don't like it don't buy it.

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Homicide Salsa (none / 0) (#27)
by meme_engineer on Fri Oct 20, 2000 at 02:25:48 AM EST

Okey-doke. What about these? Do these present similar "moral dilemmas"?

Auto-Accident Ice Cream
Crazy Candied Cherries
Cancer Chicken Pie
Rabid Beef Stew

Really, some people apparently have nothing better to do with their limited intelligences than to invent absurd correlations between names and actions. Are they so lacking in confidence in their own abilities to distinguish between reality and unreality that they must hysterically project these mental defects on everyone else?



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