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Announcing half-empty.org and Glasscode

By nebby in MLP
Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 05:36:48 PM EST
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I've created a new forum system (along the lines of Scoop & Slashcode) called Glasscode with a rather complex point/rating system with no submission queue (all "ideas" are posted). There are also other features such as skins and an inline Java HTML editor. A topic about this type of setup was discussed recently on shouldexist.org. It's in the final stages before I GPL most of the codebase, and the debut site http://www.half-empty.org is now up for all to see and use!


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Half-empty should serve to be a site on the web for the expression and sharing of all sorts of art, information, and ideas. The system gives all registered users the ability to moderate every element of the site .. with users who are moderated positively given more posting "points." It's another experiment in the whole arena of online communities, but should be the most receptive to all forms of postings. If the people like it, it will be there for all to see. Once again, the link is http://www.half-empty.org

You can get more information about Glasscode, the backend which runs using Java Servlets, here.

This project has been done mostly solo by myself over the past nine months during my spare time here at school. I hope to see it grow and can't wait to see the way the site shifts. It's setup in such a way that the administrator, myself, should be in theory able to let the site's content just run itself. Users even have the capability to create their own categories (provided they are voted into creation by the rest of the site.) Ok, I think the stuff should speak for itself from here on out.

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Announcing half-empty.org and Glasscode | 20 comments (13 topical, 7 editorial, 0 hidden)
Good piece of software (2.20 / 5) (#3)
by Majamba on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 05:16:18 PM EST

I don't know if we need yet another community moderated webpage. But Greg did a really god job in developing a system to do it.

Re: Good piece of software (4.50 / 4) (#5)
by nebby on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 05:22:50 PM EST

I know what you mean, but in looking at the systems that are out there, you have different amounts of control given to the users. You have the extreme "right" side which would be like CNN.com where news is spewed out and people just read it. Then you have slashdot, where the editors cut up the submissions and there is free but moderated discussion. Then you have k5, which is the most "free" site I've seen out there yet.

Glasscode is a twist on k5, the users spend points to post, they earn points by rating and being rated well. The rating system is extremely straightforward and simple ("one-click-rating" (tm) j/k :))

Just an experiment really. I also am trying to draw it away from exclusive technology/geek culture to a broader set of knowledge.. which might be asking too much but we'll see :)

There are additional quirks too, such as skins, files allowed to be posted inside "ideas", and an easy to use WYSIWYG HTML editor for posting ideas.



Half-Empty: A global community of thoughts ideas and knowledge.
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Re: Good piece of software (none / 0) (#19)
by zaugg on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 12:19:53 AM EST

Everything2 is another site that would fit on the k5 / glasscode end of the spectrum.
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Sticky Site (2.50 / 4) (#11)
by Foogle on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 05:40:52 PM EST

I really hate sites that try to lock you in. I don't know if he did it on purpose, but you have to pull a super-fast-double-back-click to get out of his site, because the actual URL is an instant-redirector. That's just annoying.

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Re: Sticky Site (none / 0) (#12)
by nebby on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 05:42:11 PM EST

Heh. How shall I go about fixing this? The index.html in the root dir just does a javascript redirect, which I acknowledge can be a bit annoying :)

Half-Empty: A global community of thoughts ideas and knowledge.
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Re: Sticky Site (none / 0) (#16)
by hurstdog on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 06:55:17 PM EST

I do it with a meta redirect, set to like 2 seconds... /me digs up the code.
Try this:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="refresh" content="2;URL=/redirect_to_this_whatever">


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Re: Sticky Site (3.00 / 1) (#13)
by nebby on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 05:54:13 PM EST

Fixed. (I think) :)
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Icky javascript (2.00 / 5) (#14)
by GandalfGreyhame on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 06:11:14 PM EST

Icky. Trash the javascript. Javascript evil on BeOS. And that's all that really matters ;)

-G

Re: Icky javascript (none / 0) (#17)
by Justinfinity on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 12:10:40 AM EST

well, javascript _has_ been made a standard. it's officially called ECMAScript now. "JavaScript" itself is netscape only. MS has "JScript", which is like 90% JavaScript compatible and i think 100% ECMAScript compatible now. but i'll call it JavaScript like the rest of the world so it's less confusing.

don't rip on the language because your OS doesn't have a browser that supports it. and to all you people who run with JavaScript off, that's like running without Python installed, ie: some stuff just won't work. so install/turn-on to get it to work.

-Justin

-justin
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Javascript (4.50 / 2) (#15)
by Ed O'Neill on Mon Sep 18, 2000 at 06:41:00 PM EST

I'm going to have to agree that javascript is a problem, I've had issues with business firewalls trying/succeeding in blocking it and rendering an unusable site. Also, that looks like a hefty load time for sub broadband connections. good luck though.
"Arrogance and stupidity all in the same package, how efficient of you." - Londo Mollari, Babylon 5
Re: Javascript (none / 0) (#18)
by Justinfinity on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 12:14:00 AM EST

firewall's blocking javascript? hmm, javascript runs in the browser, so the firewall must be blocking some service accessed by the scripts. i don't think any firewall could stop the java servlets eithers, cause they run server side, and just send HTML to the browser (much like PHP)


-justin
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Re: Javascript (none / 0) (#20)
by Foogle on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 10:17:54 AM EST

It wouldn't be inconceivable for a proxy server to strip Javascript code out of existing HTML, and then pass the rest back to the client. It would have the same result as turning scripting off at the browser-level.

The server-side processing, of course, is never touched by the proxy server. Although, I suppose it could be filtered out based on the file's extension. I don't know why any proxy would do such a thing, however.

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good point about the proxy (none / 0) (#21)
by Justinfinity on Wed Sep 20, 2000 at 12:46:12 AM EST

i don't see why a proxy would strip out the scripting from an HTML file. AFAIK Javascript is incapable (besides stupid holes in the browser/interpreter itself) of changing anything on the client besides cookies it has written? am i wrong?

so why would a proxy ever be setup to strip scripting code out?

-justin
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