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Votezone improvements?

By battery841 in MLP
Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 10:19:01 AM EST
Tags: Software (all tags)
Software

Votezone.com is a site dedicated to allowing anyone vote on any software product. Users are allowed to post on the public message boards to discuss games, software, or the latest in computer software. Reviews are also written for the site on different software by the users themselves. Merits are awarded by other users. Merits allow that user to vote more times in a 24 hour period, have more weight on their grade when voting, and more.


What would you like to see out of Votezone to make it a site that you'll regularly go back to and contribute to on a regular basis?

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Votezone improvements? | 17 comments (13 topical, 4 editorial, 0 hidden)
Concept / Model already exists (2.25 / 4) (#5)
by kunsan on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 10:31:48 AM EST

Very similar to www.deja.com, but I do like the fact that the focus is on software. One suggestion though, On the main page there should be a brief description of the software being rated, and at a minimum it should include the cost(preferrably free), and give credit to the creator(s) of the package. Hope that helps.
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With a gun in your mouth, you only speak in vowels -- Fight Club
Re: Concept / Model already exists (none / 0) (#14)
by battery841 on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 03:48:28 PM EST

Do you mean on the front of the votezone site, or in each applications page on VZ?

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Re: Concept / Model already exists (none / 0) (#17)
by kunsan on Fri Sep 22, 2000 at 10:52:22 AM EST

If it will fit- on the front
If not- on the app's page
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With a gun in your mouth, you only speak in vowels -- Fight Club
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Better layout (2.00 / 2) (#6)
by El Volio on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 10:33:55 AM EST

The frontpage is confusing. I would suggest adding an "Overview" or "About" section, as well as taking out the comments at the bottom. Let the comments stay in their respective areas.

Nice concept, though.

Invitation to a Lawsuit (2.00 / 3) (#7)
by Demona on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 10:44:56 AM EST

Almost any website offering brutally honest commentary about products is soon contacted by polite or not-so-polite lawyers either hinting or outright saying to "take it down". Consumer Reports can afford to hire retaliatory barristers, given all the money pumped into them by well-heeled liberals (tongue only slightly in cheek here). Tim May often suggested that any site offering truly objective comparisons of products and services, with real ratings and comments, which did not enjoy corporate "protection", would have to be hosted offshore from America, Land of the Lawsuit. Thoughts?

-dj

in ten years we're gonna have, one million lawyers

Tom Paxton was an optimist.

Re: Invitation to a Lawsuit (2.00 / 1) (#9)
by El Volio on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 11:01:35 AM EST

I'm not sure where the legal challenges would come. At least in the US, shouldn't this sort of discussion fall under "fair use"? Providing a forum for fair use isn't an infringement on anyone's trademark (by definition!), and if the site administration refrains from editing other people's opinions, they should be fine. 'Course, I have no idea if that applies to other countries or not.

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Re: Invitation to a Lawsuit (none / 0) (#10)
by El Volio on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 11:24:24 AM EST

<sheepish grin>

That was supposed to be a <p> tag, not a <b> tag. Sorry 'bout that.

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Re: Invitation to a Lawsuit (none / 0) (#11)
by A. Nut on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 11:34:03 AM EST

Wow. Looks like an unclosed bold tag affects the rest of the comments, too.

Well, here goes...
You should reverse the fish in my e-mail address
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Reductionist attitude (3.66 / 3) (#8)
by codemonkey_uk on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 10:56:58 AM EST

This doesn't just apply to votezone.

Why is it that people insist on stuffing software (and music, and art, and everything else) into little restrictive slots, and "rating" it?

Everything gets reduced to its catagory and valued.

For example, on votezone, Games, are split into, Action, Adventure, Internet Games, Role-Playing, Simulation, Sports & Strategy. Where do puzzle games go? And more importantly, where are revolutionary, genra busting, games going to go? What about Creatures (an alife game)? What about cross genra games? It could be that game X, an RPG/3D action game, is a great RPG, but a crappy action game.

I am of course, using votezone, and games as examples, my poiint is that these systems try to simplfy life to such an extent that all the richness is eliminated. I realise that it serves its purpose, but it also styfils creativity.

I wish I could propose a solution, but, I'm afraid, I'm reduced to observing the problem. (Of course to say that there is "a solution" is probably reducing complexity at the cost of accuracy!).

Thad
PS (my) First Post (to kuro5hin) ever. :)
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Thad
"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way." - Bertrand Russell

Re: Reductionist attitude (none / 0) (#13)
by battery841 on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 03:46:15 PM EST

Well how about that puzzle game that comes out? It takes next to nothing to contact Clairvaux (the administrator of VZ) and say "Hey, I'd like a puzzles section added to games". All you need to do is post in the Suggestions in the General Chat area. Does this help what you were talking about?

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Re: Reductionist attitude (none / 0) (#15)
by nebby on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 08:40:03 PM EST

Heh. Kind of ironic how I opened up www.half-empty.org this week that does just that.

Users can vote for new categories though, so it's not THAT restrictive. The idea behind the rating isn't so much as to value the post but to keep bad users who post lame stuff in check.

Half-Empty: A global community of thoughts ideas and knowledge.
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Oh crap (rant ahead) (2.00 / 2) (#12)
by GreenEagle on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 01:49:27 PM EST

<BODY BGCOLOR="WHITE">

Yes, this is on their front page.
And they aren't the only clueless website, you can find the
same tag on Advogato.

What about us with light colored default fonts ?
Needless to say I didn't (want to) look at this site.

makes my Netscape croak (2.00 / 4) (#16)
by dieMSdie on Tue Sep 19, 2000 at 09:22:19 PM EST

I tried twice to go vote for Enlightenment. Each time I arrived at the page, Netscape immediately segfaulted. I noticed that E had a "this has a pic with it!" icon... perhaps something screwy there. Two strikes and they are out, IMHO. *my 1st kuro5hin post*

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