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Postmodernism

By simmons75 in MLP
Sat Jan 13, 2001 at 06:39:41 AM EST
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Well, if the Pootifier was too stupid for you, how about something with a little more intelligence behind it? At least, how about something that seems to be more intelligent? Check this site. Postmodernist academic papers, made to order. Sure, they're completely random and completely meaningless, but they're written in an academic style. I'd love to submit these to some college English classes for analysis ;-)


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Postmodernism | 33 comments (10 topical, 23 editorial, 0 hidden)
*OH-MY-GOD!* (4.38 / 13) (#1)
by sugarman on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 02:17:35 PM EST

</janice>

It's..it's...it's...

The super secret Anne Marie k5 story generator!!!

All that's missing is the perl script that randomly inserts the Google "Are you feeling lucky?" link based on obscure keywords, and the mystery is solved!

Congratulations!

--sugarman--

Yes (none / 0) (#30)
by Qtmstr on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 09:21:05 PM EST

I mean, exists, doesn't it? It can generate front pages of That Other Site as well. And the old logo must be returned!


Kuro5hin delenda est!
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Yeeagh! (3.83 / 6) (#6)
by 11223 on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 02:28:35 PM EST

What's happening to the site?

Anyway, The Pootpoot Pootpoot (Postmodernism poot-ified. Just makes sense, don't it?)

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The dead hand of Asimov's mass psychology wins every time.

Scary... (4.77 / 9) (#9)
by joto on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 02:36:56 PM EST

This is scary... If somebody hadn't told me, I would have thought those papers were for real. (Most likely one of them is, the other just seems to be variations over a theme.) I am not sure whether this is because I can't follow modern humanistic thinking, or because it is all bullshit. I'll bet the truth is somewhere in between, as usual...

This reminds me of the article Transgressing the Boundaries: Toward a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity written by Alan Sokal as a parody and actually published (they didn't understand that is was a Parody) in "Social Text". His follow-up article A Physicists experiments with cultural studies explains why he did it. If you are like me, you will probably have a hard time not laughing uncontrollably as you read it. You can find Alan Sokal's homepage here where you will find links to later papers over the same theme.

It's... it's... (3.50 / 2) (#12)
by 11223 on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 02:55:05 PM EST

Karma whoring!

Seriously, that's gotta be the classic text of karma whoring. Writing something that nobody can tell is a parody - that's true karma whoring.

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The dead hand of Asimov's mass psychology wins every time.
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no, it's trolling... (3.66 / 3) (#19)
by joto on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 04:22:46 PM EST

Actually, there were many people who could understand this was a parody. Most likely, anyone with a physics degree could. And, if a journal on social sciences considers publishing a paper on physics, they definitely should consult a physicist to do a review before it is published. After all, part of the reason we have journals is that someone knowledgeable (a referrent) has read the papers published there and decided that it was worth publishing. And the fact that "social text" didn't review this article to a satisfactory degree just proves Sokal's point.

As he managed to generate a lot of discussion, one can conclude that this must be one of the most succesful trolls ever... ;-)

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The problem with 'satirising' postmodernism is... (none / 0) (#28)
by Homburg on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 07:48:50 PM EST

Any half-decent postmodernist rejects the ideas of truth, meaning and authorial intention. So the fact the Sokal intended to take the piss is irrelevant to the quality of his article. Sokal's 'hoax' is accurate enough that it is a cogent essay (although a rather dull one) - he quotes serious academic essays, and just adds together their conclusions, so it's hardly surprising that he produces something that looks like a genuine essay. After all, if I took the code to fetchmail, and replaced the IMAP code with the IMAP code from mutt, that would hardly make it a 'parody' of IMAP software.

The 'postmodern generator', referred to in the article, meanwhile, is just dumb. Anyone with any familiarity with the humanities can easily tell the difference between one of these random essays and a genuine, useful, piece of work. Again, I'd like you to imagine a website that produces random programs in C++. My mum would, I'm sure, be tricked into thinking they were real computer programs, but anyone who programs would, on reading through the listings, realise that they did nothing of any use.

The point is, it's easy to persuade people who don't have any understanding of the context, that you've created a really clever, subversive parody. But, probably, you haven't.

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Cool... (4.50 / 2) (#17)
by CyberQuog on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 03:57:36 PM EST

You just got me an A in my honors english class >;)


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Speaking of... (4.50 / 2) (#24)
by ContinuousPark on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 05:19:48 PM EST

postmodernism, yesterday I found this amusing article.

Madlibs for the Haughty (4.00 / 1) (#31)
by turtleshadow on Fri Jan 12, 2001 at 10:24:15 PM EST

Never use an overindulgent word when a diminutive one will suffice.

God is dead we (superman) killed him
Superman is dead -- D.C. killed him
Where are we now?
Turtleshadow

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