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Book publishers destroyed by Libraries! (film at 11)

By relarson in MLP
Wed Jan 24, 2001 at 11:34:08 PM EST
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A great cartoon mocking the quick to sue music/entertainment industry. Down with libraries and that Dewey and his so called "Decimal" system! , check out salon.com.


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Book publishers destroyed by Libraries! (film at 11) | 16 comments (8 topical, 8 editorial, 0 hidden)
asinine (2.50 / 4) (#8)
by streetlawyer on Mon Jan 22, 2001 at 07:45:48 AM EST

.... is one of my favourite words, and perhaps over-used, but it describes this comic pretty well. In fact, as anyone who knows anything about libraries knows, libraries do in fact make a payment to the authors of the most-borrowed books. For some authors, it's quite a substantial sum.

(yawn)

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Lbrary payments? (4.00 / 4) (#9)
by thejeff on Mon Jan 22, 2001 at 10:46:50 AM EST

I don't know that much about libraries, but I'd never heard this. Why should libraries fall under copyright laws at all? It's legal to lend/give/sell the physical media, as long as you don't keep/make copies. Or are there other laws specifically targeting libraries?

thejeff

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Incorrect assumption. (4.75 / 4) (#10)
by Narcischizm on Mon Jan 22, 2001 at 11:26:23 AM EST

In the US, city and county-based public libraries do not make payments to authors or publishers, even bestsellers.

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Any (none / 0) (#16)
by davidduncanscott on Fri Jan 26, 2001 at 12:37:53 PM EST

AFAIK, it's not just public libraries, but private ones as well (although the vast majority of private libraries are either schools or weird little porn shops).

As I recall, publishers also get no royalties (and don't even have to be asked) for copies distributed to the blind, provided that they are in formats useful only to the blind (that audiobook you play in your car is not such a format).

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Absolutely (2.00 / 1) (#11)
by Burb on Tue Jan 23, 2001 at 06:13:44 AM EST

I was going to mention this very point. The cartoon is funny, but it's based on a misunderstanding.

Oh that reminds me, one of my Library books is overdue and I owe them a or two....

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v $ (4.00 / 2) (#13)
by davidduncanscott on Wed Jan 24, 2001 at 12:06:25 AM EST

I think I see the problem here. Apparently in those countries where they pay their fines in , libraries pay royalties. Here where we pay our fines with $, they don't. Who knew?

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So the obvious solution... (3.00 / 1) (#15)
by physicsgod on Thu Jan 25, 2001 at 01:20:10 AM EST

Is to make the UK switch over to dollars. :)

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multi-level readings (3.50 / 2) (#12)
by motty on Tue Jan 23, 2001 at 02:01:37 PM EST

'asinine' would be accurate if this cartoon had no other way of being read than the literal reading. this one is quite clearly not intended to be taken literally. there are a number of alternative, non-literal readings here...

surely a point is being made in this cartoon about the way in which large media corporations are mishandling the current rapidly changing landscape of copyright law and distribution. this seems to be a not unreasonable point to make. along the way it also takes potshots at those creators of cultural artefacts who are only in it for the money. this is also a pretty good target (if a little barn-door-like).

finally, the cartoon satirises the slowness of mainstream media to deal accurately with these phenomena, which are deeply and recursively linked to the mainstream media itself. there is an extent to which precisely that failure of the cartoon to mention the actual payment systems to writers of heavily borrowed books, to which streetlawyer refers, is all part of the fun.

'asinine' is defined here as meaning 1) utterly stupid or silly, or 2) of, relating to, or resembling an ass. let us, perhaps charitably, discard the second of these two definitions as being non-relevant to the discussion in hand. as i believe i have demonstrated above, the cartoon was not *utterly* stupid or silly, despite there being a long and noble tradition of precisely such a kind of cartoon.

streetlawyer's response, being short, off the cuff, and essentially incomplete (but *why* did the factual inaccuracy make it silly? it's a satirical cartoon, not an academic treatise...), is probably too thin to qualify as asinine.

this overblown response to streetlawyer's response, now, this *is* asinine. i rest my case. (whatever it was.)
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