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"Hint, it's not a Mac"

By codepoet in MLP
Thu Oct 18, 2001 at 06:56:07 PM EST
Tags: Hardware (all tags)
Hardware

Quoth Apple: "Hint, it's not a Mac."

This was on an invitation to a launch party Apple is hosting next Tuesday where Apple is expected to release a handheld music device.


The real news is that this is a player and recorder which could mean a cheap (oh, wait, this is Apple) handheld MP3 recorder. No more tapes for classes or meetings (or intra-corporate blackmail ;).

Whatever it is, it's designed to work with iTunes and bring out the whole "digital hub" thiggy Apple has going and could also pave the way for future Apple devices that bring out the "digital hub" idea. The event should be broadcast via QuickTime next week, according to both sources.

Two links: The news story and the Think Secret story.

So, the big question: What do you think it is?

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What is it?
o A branded Rio. 21%
o An "innovative" MP3 player with some Appleish features. 57%
o Some other music device. 4%
o Ginger/IT 16%

Votes: 42
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"Hint, it's not a Mac" | 33 comments (24 topical, 9 editorial, 0 hidden)
Maybe (2.00 / 4) (#2)
by wiredog on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:38:16 PM EST

It's a quarter pounder?
A Granny Smith?
A squirrel zapper?

If there's a choice between performance and ease of use, Linux will go for performance every time. -- Jerry Pournelle
Hmm (3.66 / 3) (#11)
by codepoet on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:54:57 PM EST

A squirrel zapper that loads the attack into iMovie and automatically makes a DVD out of it. Nahh, niche market.

"We're going to find out who did this and we're going after the bastards." --Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah
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my best guess (3.80 / 5) (#3)
by Anonymous 242 on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:43:56 PM EST

It's a Palm or some other PDA licensed and fitted with .mp3 capability and beefed up memory.

-l

Could be TiVoish (4.00 / 2) (#12)
by codepoet on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:56:44 PM EST

The actual invitation does not state anything about it, it's people talking that say it's a music device. Apple just says it's releasing something that's "not a Mac." God, I hope they bring back the Newton. ;)

"We're going to find out who did this and we're going after the bastards." --Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah
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well (5.00 / 3) (#19)
by Anonymous 242 on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 03:20:10 PM EST

I hope they bring back the Newton.
That will never happen as long as the indomitable Mr. Jobs is at the helm. That said, Apple has been talking on again and off again with USR/3Com/Palm Computing about iMac flavors of Palm devices.

So I'm conjecturing that one deal or the other finally made its way through the beurocratic red tape of hight technology companies and the first fruits are on the way to be announced.

I'm most torqued that Apple dumped the Newton Message Book or whatever it was called. That thing had almost everything that I personally wanted in a mobile device. I'm waiting to see what the end user experience of the FIC Aqua Pad ends up like.

After my experience with OS/2 Warp, I'm not about to be an early adopter of anything.

Regards,

Lee Irenæus Malatesta

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you know what would be cool? (4.75 / 33) (#4)
by Defect on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:44:17 PM EST

If it was a bionic duck. I've always wanted a duck and even moreso if said duck could waddle around with laser rifles mounted on its back. And i want it to respond to pokemon-esque commands. "BionicDuck, ATTACK!"

Oooh. I'm all excited now, i hope it's a bionic duck.

shoot. If it is a bionic duck, i hope it's not purple or red like all their other crap. I want a bionic duck that strikes terror into the hearts of men, not a bionic duck that looks like a lollipop.
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bionic lollipop (4.28 / 7) (#10)
by DesiredUsername on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:54:47 PM EST

After you toasted a few people it seems like a bionic, lollipop-themed duck would strike MORE terror than a normal bionic duck.

Play 囲碁
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iDuck (4.16 / 6) (#14)
by Rand Race on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 03:03:27 PM EST

Ah, you want the TiDuck then.

Me, I'm hoping for Apple branded gentically engineered translucent shock-monkeys. But I'm probably the only one.


"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather than that of blindfolded Fear." - Thomas Jefferson
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Yes! (4.00 / 4) (#16)
by wiredog on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 03:15:22 PM EST

And it could fight it out with the Robot Cat!!!

If there's a choice between performance and ease of use, Linux will go for performance every time. -- Jerry Pournelle
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Well, this is Apple... (3.75 / 12) (#5)
by DesiredUsername on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:45:44 PM EST

...so we can assume they put in all the functionality a professional musician would want but designed their UI for blind, parapalegic grandmothers. And then wrapped it up translucent plastic and are selling it for twice the price of the comparable market item.

Not that I'm bitter.

Play 囲碁
Bitter? Noooo... (3.00 / 3) (#7)
by codepoet on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:51:38 PM EST

Actually you're almost right. Then deep in the menu system of the device you will find an obscure program called "Terminal" which will open up all the useful features, but will cause Apple's support monkeys to hang up on you if you use it to make the duck ... dock (damn you, Defect) transparent... Hrm, yeah.

This post has no point.

"We're going to find out who did this and we're going after the bastards." --Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah
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I pity the parapalegic grandmother . . . (4.00 / 1) (#26)
by regeya on Thu Oct 18, 2001 at 12:12:52 AM EST

. . . the first time she has trouble with her Mac, and doesn't have, at a phone call away, that 1 in 10,000 person who actually knows something about a Mac.

Seriously.

[ yokelpunk | kuro5hin diary ]
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iPod (none / 0) (#33)
by codepoet on Tue Oct 23, 2001 at 03:52:16 PM EST

all the functionality a professional musician would want

Yes. Upgradable media formats through firmware flashes and supports all forms of MP3, WAV, and AIFF.

designed their UI for blind, parapalegic grandmothers

Yes, but it's usably nice. Everything is very quick to get to.

then wrapped it up translucent plastic

White, like the iBook, actually, but close.

selling it for twice the price of the comparable market item

Why yes, actually, they are.

Overall: Damn near spot-on. Good job. =)

"We're going to find out who did this and we're going after the bastards." --Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah
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what do you mean 'what is it'? (3.71 / 7) (#9)
by delmoi on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:54:45 PM EST

Whatever it is, it's designed to work with iTunes and bring out the whole "digital hub" thiggy Apple has going and could also pave the way for future Apple devices that bring out the "digital hub" idea.

What do you mean, 'what is it'? you just told us. an MP3 player/recorder
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yes yes (4.00 / 2) (#13)
by codepoet on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 02:58:40 PM EST

But is it a handheld, or a component sytem? Is it CD-based, card-based, RAM-based? Does it play over a network or USB/FireWire? What did Apple do to it? Would Apple release Yet Another music deivce? Not really. Something has to be special about it, so what did Apple do to it? That's really what I'm asking.

"We're going to find out who did this and we're going after the bastards." --Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah
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Aaaarrgh! (3.33 / 3) (#17)
by Skippy on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 03:17:35 PM EST

I got all excited when I saw the title in the hardware section. All I could think of was, "Finally, a commodity PPC motherboard! Whoohoo!" Needless to say, I'm disappointed its just a music thingee. :-(

# I am now finished talking out my ass about things that I am not qualified to discuss. #
Usual Questions (3.25 / 4) (#22)
by J'raxis on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 05:21:41 PM EST

If it is an MP3 device, how is it going to be crippled with DRM crapware?

— The Cynical Raxis

[ J’raxis·Com | Liberty in your lifetime ]

err... (4.00 / 3) (#23)
by codepoet on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 05:30:04 PM EST

It's from Apple, which might possibly mean this is a QuickTime device ... QuickTime has some decent DRM stuff (look at any LOTR trailer). Might follow suit with that, who knows? If it is MP3, I wouldn't expect much in the way of DRM; look at iTunes, it's DRM-free.

"We're going to find out who did this and we're going after the bastards." --Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah
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not that cool for non church of apple believers (2.00 / 3) (#25)
by gps on Wed Oct 17, 2001 at 09:07:26 PM EST

so what, they're making a portable music dingy with a cpu and firewire port to promote their computers.

the -only- reason they are doing this is because nobody wants to buy computers anymore, they are already good enough for what people do. apple is desperately trying to create things that will encourage people to buy new computers.

just like intel actively seeks out developers to write larger slower software in order to sell more expensive CPUs, apple will do the same with this to make sure it works on macs much better than PCs.


Why MP3? (5.00 / 1) (#28)
by static on Thu Oct 18, 2001 at 10:31:18 PM EST

MP3 is going to require Apple license it. The only reason they could pick MP3 is to leverage off people who already have (large) MP3 collections. They should be going to something better, such as (Ogg) Vorbis. Especially if they were going to push recording; because for the vast majority of music, Vorbis and most codecs newer than MP3 compress better, often twice as much.

Besides, Vorbis has no license fees.

Wade.



Re: Why MP3? (none / 0) (#30)
by zagor on Fri Oct 19, 2001 at 08:55:34 AM EST

Besides, Vorbis has no license fees.
...and no hardware codecs.

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MP3 recorder is "news"? (4.00 / 1) (#29)
by zagor on Fri Oct 19, 2001 at 08:52:47 AM EST

The real news is that this is a player and recorder which could mean a cheap (oh, wait, this is Apple) handheld MP3 recorder.
That's news? Being an Apple product, I doubt it will be any cheaper than the already-existing-and-supported-by-linux-and-macosx Archos Jukebox Recorder, selling for $349. Unless it's yet another one of those useless 32MB "smart media" toys.

sosumi (4.00 / 1) (#31)
by Espresso_Boy on Sat Oct 20, 2001 at 02:57:46 AM EST

Didn't Apple avoid getting in trouble a while back because they weren't in the field of music? Now releasing a "digital music system" that has the sole purpose of recording (and playing) music seems like it would bring them back in to the grey area. Does that old record company still exist to complain, or are they gone?

Apple Corps (5.00 / 1) (#32)
by fluffy grue on Sun Oct 21, 2001 at 02:06:15 PM EST

As far as I know, Apple Corps (which was the label the Beatles started) only exists as the label for old Beatles releases at this point (and is, IIRC, owned by Michael Jackson). Apple Computer has been doing music stuff for ages now, though, and if the issue hasn't yet come up in court, it's not going to, since it's far too late for a trademark dilution suit at this point.
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