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Saudi Arabia bans Pokemon

By spiralx in MLP
Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 06:21:23 PM EST
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The highest religious authority in Saudi Arabia has banned Pokemon video games and cards, claiming that they promotes Zionism and involves gambling.


Saudi Arabia's senior cleric, Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, has said that the cards contain symbols such as "crosses, sacred for Christians and triangles, significant for Freemasons" and that because sometimes people exchanged cards for money it resembled gambling. Indeed, he criticised the entire phenomenon as being a bad influence.

This isn't the first time that Pokemon has come under attack either. Spoon-bender Uri Geller has sued Nintendo over allegations that one of their characters was based on him and that "Nintendo turned me into an evil, occult Pokémon character."

Christian groups have also had trouble with the Pokemon craze as well, with the principal Roman Catholic archdiocese in Mexico City claiming that the cards incited violence and sexual perversion amongst children. One theology student in the UK instead opted to create his own Christian Power Cards to compete with the multi-billion dollar Pokemon industry.

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Pokemon?
o The work of Satan 22%
o Annoyingly cute 7%
o Don't like them 6%
o Just another kid's craze 16%
o A great example of marketing 23%
o I love Pokemon! 4%
o Pika-pika? 20%

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Saudi Arabia bans Pokemon | 19 comments (18 topical, 1 editorial, 0 hidden)
same thing, grander scale (3.00 / 2) (#1)
by ism on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:15:39 AM EST

Remember when Garbage Pail Kids and Bart Simpson T-shirts got yo-yo's banned from your school? This is just the same thing. Nothing kills a fad faster than banning it.

(apologies to non-children-of-the-80's who lived outside of the u.s. at the time)

Uh no... (none / 0) (#19)
by Mr. Piccolo on Tue Mar 27, 2001 at 11:43:15 PM EST

in fact, my elementary school principal actually gave out Garbage Pail Kids to get us to be good at lunch!

At least I think so, that was a while ago :-)


The BBC would like to apologise for the following comment.


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-1, Of What Possible Interest? (2.66 / 3) (#2)
by DesiredUsername on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:17:42 AM EST

Guess what, Judaism forbids the eating of pork, because it is "unclean". Jainism forbids the killing of mosquitos. Other religions/sects forbid killing cows, wearing pants, dancing, builing statues and a lot of other stuff. Forbidding Pokemon just isn't all that interesting. The story here isn't "Those Arabs are nuts" it's "religions make people act like whackos".

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"religious whackos" (4.00 / 2) (#6)
by Seumas on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:40:14 AM EST

While I agree with most accounts of the "religious whackos" front (I've never heard of a religion without a majority of whackos -- which is by association what religion is all about -- faith-based fanaticism), a couple things you mentioned are not "crazy", necessarily.

For instance, while in america, we needlessly torture and stress animals about to be slaughtered by anal electroctution, in Saudi Arabia, they have strict laws on how animals are slaughtered. This includes not only cleanliness of the facilities, but close inspection of the animals and supervision over how they are killed. If anything, they are more humane and sensible about it than most nations, including the united states.

Of course, they don't seem to treat their women or neighboring geographies with the same respect, but that's another topic.
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Whose wacky? (3.00 / 1) (#12)
by Anonymous 242 on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 02:06:24 PM EST

I find this interesting because I'd personally like to see Pokemon banned from the US. Pikachu is almost as bad as that purple furred T-Rex that I can't even bring myself to name.

The only thing better than an outright banning would be turning that other Ash loose in the Pokemon universe. Now that would be mighty fine entertainment.

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More than just marketing (4.00 / 3) (#3)
by h3lldr0p on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:19:03 AM EST

It's about starting kids off early into the void that is awaiting them in their teen years and beyond. Who here can disagree that there is a huge corporate machine designed for the sole purpose of "parting fools from their money"? And pokemon and its brethern is just beginning to start young kids upon that teat of the ever pervasive marketing machine.

This post is not ment as anti-business. I am simply trying to point out the general cluelessness of people today as they barel down life trying to be "cool". If you doubt any of this, read these pages. It was more than enough to scare me.


Even in victory, there is no beauty
And who calls it beautiful
Is one who delights in slaughter

PBS claimed DeBeers created Diamond Ring Myth (3.50 / 2) (#7)
by TuxNugget on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:58:48 AM EST

So how long have men been giving their brides-to-be diamond rings? 50 years? 100 years? 1000 years? longer?

Are you really sure about that?

DeBeers, for quite a while, owned an virtual monopoly on diamond mining in Africa. There were a few diamonds in Russia, which were kept in the country. Not much anywhere else.

Anyway, the story is that DeBeers teemed up with the early hollywood movie industry to push diamond rings as a gift from wealthy husbands to their brides. They also filled in parts of the myth later -- like how much you should spend on the diamond ring ('ettiquette' marketing supposedly now suggests about 2 months salary)

If I were less lazy, I'd look up the link -- but I heard about it from a student project in an MBA course and they cited PBS's web site.

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Did D&D make you worship satan? (3.66 / 3) (#4)
by TuxNugget on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:23:29 AM EST

or if you weren't into that, maybe rock music made you take dope and have premarital sex? Or at least listen for those occult backwards song lyrics. The creators of Pokemon should be proud to be in such good company.

So these are all examples of:

  1. FUD
  2. Clever marketing by The True Church of the Holy Dollar (of which all faiths and creeds are a part)
  3. a generation gap or similar socio/psychological phenomona
  4. something else?


Yep (none / 0) (#9)
by wiredog on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 12:41:37 PM EST

Did D&D make you worship satan? Yes, My Master.
maybe rock music made you take dope I can't remember, dude.
and have premarital sex Oh! Oh! Yessss!
listen for those occult backwards song lyrics etaion shrdlu!

The idea of a global village is wrong, it's more like a gazillion pub bars.
Phage
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it's all a diversion (4.60 / 5) (#5)
by Seumas on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 11:35:15 AM EST

Don't worry -- this is exactly what we had planned for. You see, we (the Legion of Evil People Out To Corrupt Your Children And Eat Their Mush Little Brains) worked with sister organizations to produce this 'Pokemon' phenomena as a diversion to keep people of all faiths and political orientations busy. While they're frothing at the mouth over cute little yellow ball-shaped characters that may or may not have hidden satanic references, we're busy mounting our efforts to lure your precious children away from you and farm their mushy brains for our culinary pleasure.

By the time the majority of the world realizes this, it will be too late and the only children you'll have left are the few kids who are smarter than an ice cube and not easily brain-washed by flashy commercials and assorted rhetorics.
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It's THEM!! (4.00 / 1) (#8)
by wiredog on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 12:06:54 PM EST

Aren't you the same guys that put an animated ad here and poisoned Rusty?

The idea of a global village is wrong, it's more like a gazillion pub bars.
Phage
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Mmmmm... (none / 0) (#10)
by Paradocis on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 01:18:01 PM EST

<in best return of the living dead voice>
Freeeshh Brains.....


-=<Paradocis>=-
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"El sueńo de la razon produce monstruos." -Goya
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South Park (3.50 / 4) (#11)
by MrAcheson on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 01:51:31 PM EST

When will parents learn the lesson of South Park? The way to kill Pokemon once and for all is to show an interest in it and start playing with your kids. They will therefore conclude that pokemon is lame and take up something else.

For god sakes do it before they bomb Pearl Harbor! :)


These opinions do not represent those of the US Army, DoD, or US Government.


Islam and Jesus (1.50 / 2) (#14)
by tnt on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 04:25:11 PM EST

In the post it said:

Saudi Arabia's senior cleric, Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Abdullah, has said that the cards contain symbols such as "crosses, sacred for Christians

Why would Saudi Arabia's senior cleric have a problem with (Christian) crosses. Muslims believe in Jesus too!



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In a sense... (4.50 / 2) (#15)
by Unless on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 05:25:50 PM EST

Muslims do indeed believe in Christ's significance as a religious figure; however, they do NOT believe that he is the son of God, only one of God's many prophets (along with Muhammad, Abraham, Adam, etc). It's a pretty important distinction.

Also, some fundamentalist Muslims really take the whole 'false idols' thing and run with it. The Qur'an can be (and has been) interpreted to say that, for example, putting a picture of a family member on your fridge is worshipping a false idol, because it draws your attention and love away from God. It's a small leap from there to say that Pokemon cards are sinful, especially if they have crosses on them.

Unless
how can this mean anything to me if i really don't feel a thing at all?

Unless..
[ Parent ]
Different kinds of Christians (none / 0) (#18)
by tnt on Tue Mar 27, 2001 at 11:15:23 AM EST

You said:

Muslims do indeed believe in Christ's significance as a religious figure; however, they do NOT believe that he is the son of God, only one of God's many prophets (along with Muhammad, Abraham, Adam, etc). It's a pretty important distinction.

It was my understanding that not all Christian believed that Jesus was the son of God either. Some Christian, like the Muslims, believe that Jesus was a profit [... a messenger of God],... born to a virgin mother by the hand of God (but not a son in the sence that Hercules was the son of Zeus,... but a son in the sense that we are all the sons and daughters of God). Some Christians, like you said, believe that Jesus is the son of God (in the sence that Hercules was the son of Zeus). And some Christians believe that Jesus is God.

It was with the first type of Christian (that I mentioned above) that I thought that Saudi Arabia's senior cleric should have no problem with. And since not all Christians have a view that is in conflict with the Muslim view of Jesus, I didn't see their reasoning for having a problem with (Christian) crosses. It was my understanding that the way in which Islam relates to Christianity is very similar to the way in which Christianity relate to Judaism. [As a kind of predecessor religion.]



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Yes, and no (5.00 / 3) (#17)
by strlen on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 08:07:58 PM EST

Well Islam recognizes Jesus, as a prophet (as they do Moses etc..), but they do not belief in worshiping symbols. I kind of agree with their idea, it seems absurd to be carrying a miniature of a torture intrstrument used to kill the founder of a religion, and worship a man, rather then follow the religious principles. Such views of muslims actually are what kept islam a rather productive, tolerant and progressive religion during its golden age -- especially in arabic spain. Unfortunately, Islam refuses to evolve past that, this is why we have what we have with Taleban, Saudi Arabia, Iran. Also the western factors, such as the 19th century Imprealizm, creation of Israel, pan-Arab nationalism, and communist (and containment thereof) have all played a role in creating fundamentalist groups as well.



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[ Parent ]
Saudi Arabia (4.00 / 1) (#16)
by strlen on Mon Mar 26, 2001 at 07:56:51 PM EST

Ok, time to rant again. It feels kind of interest, as United States bashes Iran, for their own fundamentalist tradition, which denies people their right, yet at the send time sends weapoins, and great amount of money into Saudi Arabia, by all means a much more conservative and fundamentalist Islamic state. It sickens me.

On the other hand, this is a good ad absurdum example of what happens when you let the religious right into mainstream politics.



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