is not an excuse to tap private media. It is judicially illegal in most countries as well.
It's a good thing I still have the receipt for my television from Best Buy!
Echelon did not save the EU from the Third Reich.
Quite correct. The EU didn't exist back then. However, the countries which are a part of that were, as are the organizations responsible for Echelon.
You must have been one of the many, many suckers fooled by Enigma the movie.
Yes, I guess so.
the DoD outsources and contracts most defence contracts to commercial companies I would be very, very surprised if they did not provide any data either to these companies
The fact that the DoD "outsources and contracts" with commercial companies does not automatically mean they are going to be given access to a top-secret network consisting of dozens of listening posts, terabytes of downlinked satellite intercepts, cipher books, diplomatic papers, access codes to spy satellites, and hundreds, of not thousands, of workers who sift through that data.
I work for a technology company at the moment. I don't have access to the payroll systems. I fail to understand why... afterall, don't I work for them?
After all that's the whole point of gathering data -- to use it.
The city of Coventry, during WWII, was sacrificed rather than reveal that the german ciphers had been cracked. Sometimes the point is not to use that information. As the NSA's cryptology museum homepage says: Cryptology is a secret world. Success, if it is to endure, must be hidden.
And since the DoD, CIA and NSA do not do any significant manufacturing themselves, you can guess the rest.
Just north of Minneapolis/St. Paul is a huge hundred-plus acre manufacturing plant owned by the US Government. In Nevada, there's a well-known airbase called "Area 51", and buried in the side of a mountain along the west coast is a military-industrial complex stretching several hundreds of feet underground and covering many, many, miles of terrain. The NSA has a not-so secret chip manufacturing plant for technology deemed 'too sensitive' to be produced commercially. In Washington (the state), there's a Navy shipyard. And in remote areas of the northwestern United States, there's dozens of small undocumented military complexes which house, amongst other things, nukes and biological weapontry.
Are you trying to tell me that with all of this, they need commercial support?
the US govt has already shown itself willing to misuse high placed oficials to push corporate agenda's
Maybe. But as I've indicated elsewhere, the US government is a collection of thousands of organizations. Simply because one of them, in a single instance, helped further 'corporate agenda' does not mean the whole of the US government is corrupt!
Society needs therapy. It's having
trouble accepting itself.
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