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Freenet hires another developer and nears major release

By sanity in MLP
Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 11:10:38 AM EST
Tags: Software (all tags)

Freenet has hired another developer. Tavin Cole will be working on the project for two months and be paid $2500. This is the second developer hired by the project under a similar deal, the first being Oskar Sandberg. The money will be used to cover their living expenses and comes from generous donations made to the Freenet website.

Freenet, currently on release, is gearing up for the first major revision of the software in over a year (although there have been minor releases every few weeks). 0.4 will bring enhancements to almost all aspects of Freenet, from ease of use, ease of client development, resource consumption, security, and, of course, speed. Freenet 0.4 is currently being actively developed and is nearing its first pre-release.


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Freenet hires another developer and nears major release | 16 comments (14 topical, 2 editorial, 0 hidden)
2500... (3.60 / 10) (#1)
by rebelcool on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 01:46:25 AM EST

thats 15000 a year. Good to know that these people are rewarded for their work with the poverty level income...

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What are his living expenses? (3.75 / 4) (#2)
by dave114 on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 02:31:09 AM EST

Such stuff as poverty level income all depends on where you live.

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Grad School.... (3.25 / 4) (#3)
by Blarney on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 03:09:25 AM EST

It's comparable to a grad student stipend for doing teaching and research at a University. By the way, the last I checked "poverty level" was pretty low - $2500 for two months would be poverty level for a family of 3, but if Mr. Cole is single he wouldn't technically be poor.

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yes but (none / 0) (#15)
by mpalczew on Wed Jul 18, 2001 at 04:34:14 PM EST

When someone goes to grad school they are essentially getting paid to go to school. Even if it isn't much it sounds like a pretty good deal.
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I'm not (none / 0) (#16)
by aonifer on Thu Jul 19, 2001 at 01:26:13 AM EST

When someone goes to grad school they are essentially getting paid to go to school.

I'm not. I pay full (resident) tuition to take classes here. Admittedly, I attend the only school in the Big Ten that makes its TA's and RA's pay tuition (The University of Iowa).

Anyway, this guy is getting paid to do programming for a not-for-profit group. It's natural to assume that he's not going to get paid as much as working for, say, Microsoft.

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Just a thought (none / 0) (#10)
by dasunt on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 02:30:12 PM EST

Minimum wage is less then $1500/month. In fact, its closer to half that.

$5.15 x 40 = $206/week.

Assuming 30.5 days in the average month, or 4.35... weeks in the average month, thats $897 a month, before taxes.

Now that is what's upsetting.

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Not really (none / 0) (#12)
by aonifer on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 06:38:52 PM EST

I make ~$17000 a year as graduate teaching/research assistant and that's on the high end. I'm not exactly rolling in it, but I make enough to pay my bills and eat. I'm certainly not at the poverty level.

But, if you think he should get paid more, then maybe you should give a large donation to the freenet project.

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i dont use freenet (3.75 / 4) (#13)
by rebelcool on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 06:40:29 PM EST

nor do i really have any interest in it.

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Exciting (2.50 / 4) (#5)
by MicroBerto on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 08:48:18 AM EST

Personally, I'm pretty pumped about this! I really have no experience with freenet, but I think that it is an extremely promising thing. I think I'll start reading their discussions and see how the user-friendliness is coming along, because it is crucial to getting more people on it, especially me!

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Onion style comment (4.90 / 10) (#6)
by theboz on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 09:42:25 AM EST

On a related note, the Dunwoody area Burger King has recently hired Sylvia Torres to join their workforce. When asked about this new acquisition, manager Tony Gallum stated, ''I'm totally pumped about this. We have been needing someone to collect the trays and fill the ketchup pump regularly for a while now. I think she (Torres) will make an excellent addition to our team.'' It is expected that John Stevens, who currently has dining room duties, will be promoted to preparing the french fries and chicken sandwiches.

Torres also was excited about her new job, replying with, ''Hey yo, I may not be doin' some 'puter programmin', but at least I make more cash flippin' burgers than that freenet guy. He's gettin' jacked!''


Backwords compatible? (4.00 / 1) (#8)
by knowfear on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 01:01:27 PM EST

Does anyone know of FreeNet will be backwords compatible? Or will clients have to upgrade to the newest version every few months so they can still connect with others???

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Yes and no (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by sanity on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 01:05:31 PM EST

Unfortunately 0.4 will not be compatable with 0.3, due to the very significant modifications which have been made to almost all aspects of the software, however the probability of future backwards-incompatability should be much smaller after this release.

While some might be annoyed by this, the only alternative is not to release any version of Freenet before 1.0 (which could take years). This is the price you pay for having access to pre-1.0 software.

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speed (4.50 / 2) (#11)
by evin on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 05:48:39 PM EST

While Freenet is a nice idea, it's way too slow for common use. I'd be willing to wait two or three times as long as standard http for the privacy it provides, but if I have to wait 10 minutes for a document to load, I'm not going to bother.

It'd be really nice if we could use it for mirroring of documents for distributed distribution of software. This could mean that debian wouldn't need to pay for bandwidth and http.us.debian.org wouldn't get overloaded (debs could be digitally signed to provide security). And theoretically, it seems like it could be faster than http-getting them (if I have a debian-using peer on my local network). But as is, it's faster to wait for some overworked non-peer-to-peer network than sending Freenet requests...

Real "legitimate" uses like that seem like they should be very important to the system. If it's only used for a few obscure freenet-websites and mostly (copyright infringing) mp3/porn/etexts, the courts (and ISPs receiving threatening letters) are unlikely to view it favorably. If it's an efficient network which ends up saving backbone bandwidth, it's much less likely to face legal challenges.

10 minutes? (5.00 / 1) (#14)
by sanity on Tue Jul 17, 2001 at 07:56:33 PM EST

While Freenet is slower than it should be, it should never take 10 minutes to retrieve a document, 5-30 seconds is more typical. The new version will bring significant speed improvements.

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