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Night Clubs -> Fight Clubs?

By Matthew Guenther in News
Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 03:34:34 AM EST
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I recently stumbled across this article in the Globe and Mail about clubs in Rio de Janeiro that young people hang out in and try and kill each other to music. Fairly disturbing.


Things like this have been seen in bad sci-fi movies, but I've never heard of anything like this in the real world. There have been some pretty violent mosh pits and slam dances, but never ochestrated to cause violence on this scale. Why do you think people would pay money to do this? (Or even do it for free for that matter.) Technology and culture from the trenches indeed.

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Night Clubs -> Fight Clubs? | 15 comments (15 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
These kids are from a slums. Dejec... (none / 0) (#4)
by bmetzler on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 09:26:11 AM EST

bmetzler voted -1 on this story.

These kids are from a slums. Dejected and hopeless. So the kill to vent.
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Re: These kids are from a slums. Dejec... (none / 0) (#15)
by dr on Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 04:11:44 PM EST

Once again I am glad to be living in Canada.

And personally, I don't care what state you live in (dejected, hopeless, etc...) it's no excuse for such disregard for life. But I guess as long as it isn't happening here...

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And they're called "funk balls." Th... (none / 0) (#1)
by rusty on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 11:55:08 AM EST

rusty voted 1 on this story.

And they're called "funk balls." The world is a weird, weird place.

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This is interesing, but I'm not sur... (none / 0) (#5)
by neonman on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 12:50:40 PM EST

neonman voted 1 on this story.

This is interesing, but I'm not sure wether or not this is to be believed.
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Doesn't seem to add anything of rea... (none / 0) (#9)
by dvwood on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 01:11:30 PM EST

dvwood voted 0 on this story.

Doesn't seem to add anything of real value ... but I'm a critic!
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This is bizarre enough that people ... (none / 0) (#10)
by Byzantine on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 03:03:04 PM EST

Byzantine voted 1 on this story.

This is bizarre enough that people want to read it.
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wow.... (none / 0) (#3)
by ramses0 on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 04:08:03 PM EST

ramses0 voted 1 on this story.

wow.
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Wow, I just read the whole article,... (none / 0) (#2)
by rongen on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 09:14:23 PM EST

rongen voted 1 on this story.

Wow, I just read the whole article, not scanned, read. Very disturbing. This could have been written by Harry Harrison or William Gibson (or both as a collaboration---that would be wierd!). Seriously, this is worth checking out. A great deal of the world's population lives in poverty. This is one way of "dealing" with that I guess, but I sure hope it doesn't become the typical way...
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Re: Wow, I just read the whole article,... (none / 0) (#13)
by Matthew Guenther on Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 09:14:11 AM EST

I had a very similar reaction... this sounded like something straight out of Neuromancer. It's mind boggling the how the confluence of poverty, mass-media, and consumerism has created these kids. How even though they're poor, they spend all their money on Nike and adidas apparel. Also, the whole "mortal kombat" thing was creepy... next thing you know Midway will be sponsoring teams or something equally grim.

It makes me wonder how some of the less fortunate in our society are going to adapt to the wave of new technology in the coming years.

MBG



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What the heck is wrong with these k... (none / 0) (#8)
by shepd on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 09:41:23 PM EST

shepd voted 1 on this story.

What the heck is wrong with these kids? Have they no life at all? They can't be all that poor if their _kids_ can burn $6 a week at a concert. I guess I won't be taking any trips there for a while...

That's ridiculous. "Stay away from ... (none / 0) (#7)
by mattdm on Wed Feb 23, 2000 at 11:49:52 PM EST

mattdm voted -1 on this story.

That's ridiculous. "Stay away from that Rock 'n' Roll music, kids. It's dangerous."

Very interesting.... (none / 0) (#6)
by spinergy on Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 02:51:48 AM EST

spinergy voted 1 on this story.

Very interesting.
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Re: Night Clubs -> Fight Clubs? (none / 0) (#11)
by driph on Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 03:41:56 AM EST

Sounds like the clubs here in Vegas. Except instead of fighting, they all take GHB and kill themselves..:]


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Re: Night Clubs -> Fight Clubs? (none / 0) (#12)
by Matthew Guenther on Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 08:31:02 AM EST

Pardon my ignorance, but what's GHB?

MBG



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Re: Night Clubs -> Fight Clubs? (none / 0) (#14)
by Pow.R Toc.H on Thu Feb 24, 2000 at 10:44:24 AM EST

Although the article has a little sensationalistic scent, it's essentially correct.
I have just some comments and corrections:

1) R$ 7.50 equals more or less US$ 4,00. Globe and Mail is a canadian newspaper, so the $6 should be canadian dollars.

2) This place as the article says isn't exactly at Rio de Janeiro. It's the suburbs, cities that surround Rio de Janeiro, which are really plagued by violence but also have a number of Non-Governamental Associations that fight against poverty and violence. G&M could make an article about these associations as a counterpoint.

3) I can say, as brazilian and as someone that frequently went to Rio both to business and leisure, that the violence problem in Rio is normally exagerated - remember, the business of the newspapers is to sell newspapers, so they overtone the violence. Actually, the most violent place in Brazil is nearby Vitoria, capital of Espirito Santo state. Anyway, like any other place in the world, if you're a sucker there you'll have no chance.

4) The phenomenon of gangs is not new and isn't restrict to Brazil. Just rent West Side Story to see essentially the same thing happening in the U.S. The film just adds choreography and (unforgettable) music by Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim.

5) To the people that ask if these boys don't have any better thing to do, the answer is no. Duque de Caxias is 80 km from the downtown, and there is no facilities like decent mass transportation from and to there (buses and trains). So these boys end staying there and doing this sort of things. These people have been deserted from the government since a long time. The problem is a social one, and I don't think that the "goods of global economy" (do they exist to South America?) will reach this place some day.

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