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Leap Year Problems

By skim123 in News
Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 08:46:56 AM EST
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According to this article on ABCNews, Japan has experienced some minor problems in detecting that this year is a leap year.

This failure to detect a leap year has been discussed before by computer experts, especially those who predicted Y2K doom. Does anyone think that failure to detect a leap year will result in pending disasters, or we all a lot calmer after Y2K went over so smoothly?


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Leap Year Problems | 19 comments (19 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
I'm quite interested what will happ... (1.00 / 1) (#5)
by fvw on Mon Feb 28, 2000 at 07:04:45 PM EST

fvw voted 1 on this story.

I'm quite interested what will happen too... Fingers crossed. I want FIREWORKS! ;-)

This looks like the press trying to... (3.00 / 2) (#6)
by Perpetual Newbie on Mon Feb 28, 2000 at 07:18:04 PM EST

Perpetual Newbie voted -1 on this story.

This looks like the press trying to squeeze a little more fear out of Y2K. I find it highly unlikely that a large number of programmers would know about the 100s rule but not know about the 400s rule.

100s/400s rule (3.00 / 2) (#14)
by Strange Charmed One on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 09:52:55 AM EST

Until about a year and a half ago, I did not know about it and I consider myself relatively bright and knowlegable even by the standards of my surroundings (Oxford University) so I think that a number of programmers may not have known.
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Re: 100s/400s rule (3.00 / 1) (#18)
by Anonymous Hero on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 09:38:40 PM EST

I wasn't quite clear, but my point was supposed to be that most people would either know both rules or neither. Usually, if you hear about one you hear about the other. In the case of a programmer not knowing either rule, there would still be no problem in this instance..

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This is just a rehash of the Y2K pr... (1.00 / 1) (#3)
by rajivvarma on Mon Feb 28, 2000 at 08:16:35 PM EST

rajivvarma voted -1 on this story.

This is just a rehash of the Y2K problem and doesn't deserve to be on the front page

Rajiv Varma
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Worthwhile. Besides, people need to... (2.00 / 1) (#9)
by FlinkDelDinky on Mon Feb 28, 2000 at 08:38:05 PM EST

FlinkDelDinky voted 1 on this story.

Worthwhile. Besides, people need to understand that the world isn't running on Gold Code. Software is failing all the time; just in different areas for different reasons.

Ok, so the writeup's pretty serious... (none / 0) (#1)
by rusty on Mon Feb 28, 2000 at 09:10:10 PM EST

rusty voted 1 on this story.

Ok, so the writeup's pretty serious in tone, but I'm voting for this because I actually think it's pretty funny. I mean, computers screw up all the time (for God's sake, I should know! Half the time it's my fault), and yet people get really frazzled when it's a date problem. Dates are a pain to deal with in computers, because they're just not designed logically. It's no suprise at all that weird things happen with dates.

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Re: Ok, so the writeup's pretty serious... (2.50 / 2) (#13)
by Matthew Guenther on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 09:33:21 AM EST

I can't wait for some company to try to sue the Vatican for coming up with such a screwed up system in the first place. Then we can all convert over to metric time. :)

MBG



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Re: Ok, so the writeup's pretty serious... (3.00 / 1) (#17)
by ramses0 on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 01:23:44 PM EST

Hey, that guy wants royalties for metric time... that feels like a ripoff ;^)=

What I want is 30 day months with a five-day holiday at the end of every year (like the egyptians/babylonians did it ;^)=

Now -that- might be worth paying licensing fees for :^)=

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Y2K was no big deal for me since I'... (2.00 / 1) (#2)
by Demona on Mon Feb 28, 2000 at 10:25:02 PM EST

Demona voted 0 on this story.

Y2K was no big deal for me since I'd taken what I figured would be adequate precautions regarding both my data and my meatspace -- and it turned out to be not a bang, but a whimper. Is there any compelling reason to think this will be any different?

Not a huge story, but darnit, the t... (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by grappler on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 01:55:15 AM EST

grappler voted 1 on this story.

Not a huge story, but darnit, the timing is perfect.

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I just don't believe that this a se... (2.00 / 1) (#8)
by Philipp on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 03:07:37 AM EST

Philipp voted -1 on this story.

I just don't believe that this a serious issue.

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Does anyone think that failure to ... (1.50 / 2) (#4)
by driph on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 06:45:38 AM EST

Driph voted 1 on this story.

Does anyone think that failure to detect a leap year will result in pending disasters? Sure, if you consider discovering that you have an extra day before rent is due a disaster. Or realising that on Tuesday you will be working an extra day for the same salary. Now if something prevents Buffy from coming on tomorrow night.. grr.

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My watch is definitely having a pro... (4.30 / 3) (#10)
by Matthew Guenther on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 08:46:56 AM EST

Matthew Guenther voted 1 on this story.

My watch is definitely having a problem with today... I'm in March a day ahead of everyone else by the looks of things. :-) I think most things will work smoothly, but that there will be some unanticipated glitches down the road, much like Y2K. This is probably much less significant though, as it will only put faulty systems out by a day, rather than 100 years. MBG

Re: My watch is definitely having a pro... (2.00 / 1) (#11)
by joeyo on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 09:06:45 AM EST

Weird, what brandis the watch? My timex is reporting 2 29 00. I'm kind of surprised actually- I can vaguely remember when I had to adjust my old watches date _every leap year...

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Re: My watch is definitely having a pro... (2.00 / 2) (#12)
by Matthew Guenther on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 09:27:09 AM EST

A Timex Ironman Triathalon... it's has the indiglo lighting, so it's not that old. It doesn't have a year display though, and while I can set the day to 2/29, I have no control over what year it thinks it is, so it might just be using 1900 as the current year.

MBG



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Re: My watch is definitely having a pro... (1.00 / 2) (#15)
by joeyo on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 12:46:05 PM EST

Well, FYI, mine is a Timex Ironman Triathalon with the datalink stuff.

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Re: My watch is definitely having a pro... (3.00 / 2) (#16)
by Anonymous Hero on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 01:02:07 PM EST

My watch was doing the same thing; it's a good thing I was reading Kuro5hin, or else I might have gotten very confused later on.

Like yours, my watch doesn't have a year display, and I suspect that the engineers made a design decision: they wouldn't have any facility to keep track of the year at all, reasoning that it wouldn't be too much of a hassle for the user to change the date manually every four years.

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Leap Year Problems Article (4.00 / 1) (#19)
by skim123 on Tue Feb 29, 2000 at 10:40:11 PM EST

Here is an article that addresses some of the world-wide problems experienced by the leap year. Not many problems overall, seems like the Asian region was hit the hardest, but nothing critical came down...

  • http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/leap000229.html

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