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Women in Technology? Where?

By eann in News
Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 02:15:20 PM EST
Tags: Technology (all tags)
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Hillary Rodham Clinton spent part of the day Wednesday in San Francisco at the Women's Technology Cluster, an incubator group for women-founded startups, in an effort to generate publicity and awareness. If you've ever seen the numbers (like those in Internet World last week), you ought to be wondering why the only mention of this seems to be the Wired News story. And if you have a pulse, you ought to be wondering why the "new economy" looks so much like the old.


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Women in Technology? Where? | 7 comments (7 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
You got my vote ...not because I ca... (none / 0) (#2)
by nascent on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 03:22:28 AM EST

nascent voted 1 on this story.

You got my vote ...not because I care, but if this isn't "technology and culture", I don't know what is. =)
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here.... (none / 0) (#1)
by Fish on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 04:08:15 AM EST

Fish voted -1 on this story.

here.

This is just a politician trying to... (none / 0) (#4)
by marlowe on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 08:03:14 AM EST

marlowe voted -1 on this story.

This is just a politician trying to manufacture an issue to get attention. Don't give her the time of day. Next it'll be left-handed startups or a red-headed league or something.
-- The Americans are the Jews of the 21st century. Only we won't go as quietly to the gas chambers. --

Re: This is just a politician trying to... (none / 0) (#5)
by flixchick on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 03:37:42 PM EST

Well, apparently it's NOT getting her that much attention, since it hasn't made
it to any of the major news outlets or wires (at least, as far as I've heard).
The first I heard about this was right here.
And this is NOT a non-issue. It's very significant that the vast majority of
those building the Internet economy are men. They control the majority of the
wealth in the industry and they control the majority of the knowledge. If those
two things don't equal power...
None of the articles in the original posting said anything about women asking
for special treatment or status because of their gender. They're talking about
creating networks and organizations to help themselves get ahead in an industry
that--like most industries--have been dominated by men (white men,
specifically) since the beginning and don't allow outsiders in easily, if ever.


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Re: This is just a politician trying to... (none / 0) (#6)
by eann on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 04:06:07 PM EST

No, it's a real issue. Sure, the politician is trying to manufacture attention for herself and the issue, but that's not why I cared. It was more interesting to me to see how spectacularly that failed.

If you are actually of the opinion that a person's gender (or hair color, dominant hand, etc.) doesn't matter regarding his or her ability to innovate (or serve a company as a CxO), you're right. But you're also in a minority, at least when it comes to investment capital and corporate boardrooms.

At the risk of this becoming a Technocrat-flavored topic, I wanted to discuss whether this is the right approach (vs. generating some kind of backlash *ahem*), or if not, what we ought to be doing "in the trenches" to ensure that the world lives up to our high standards of inclusion and fairness?

Hrm. I guess I should've posted that in the "extended copy" area on the story submission form. Oh well.

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Re: This is just a politician trying to... (none / 0) (#7)
by flixchick on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 05:44:19 PM EST

Any significant change is going to have to come from within the community and from those trying to gain a foothold in it. Politicians can only go so far, and frankly, these days people are so jaded regarding politics that "oh, he/she/it is just doing it to gain attention/votes, don't listen to it," is a kneejerk reaction. Which is a shame because it predisposes people towards not giving serious issues a fair hearing. Not being a politician _or_ someone involved in the tech community, I don't have many answers as to what ought to be done. That requires thought I'm not able to give the topic at the moment.:)

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Wow, technology and culture!... (none / 0) (#3)
by HiRes on Fri Mar 31, 2000 at 02:15:20 PM EST

HiRes voted 1 on this story.

Wow, technology and culture!
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