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Gnutella Portal Opens

By evro in News
Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 08:41:12 PM EST
Tags: Music (all tags)
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C|NET is reporting that a new Gnutella Portal opened this morning (4/10/00). The article highlights some of the differences between Gnutella & Napster. The one that struck me (as someone who knew nothing about Gnutella) was that Gnutella doesn't have a centralized server like Napster, so it will be much harder to shut down than Napster.


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Wasn't there suppose to be 2 days l... (none / 0) (#4)
by tnt on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 05:06:44 PM EST

tnt voted 1 on this story.

Wasn't there suppose to be 2 days left to go before they opened up?

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Re: Wasn't there suppose to be 2 days l... (none / 0) (#12)
by bmetzler on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 10:12:20 PM EST

Wasn't there suppose to be 2 days left to go before they opened up?

Yes, that's what they say on the home page. In 2 days they'll make their big official announcement. Doesn't hurt to get a sneek preview though :)

-Brent
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Nice to see the open-source communi... (1.00 / 1) (#1)
by rusty on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 05:27:59 PM EST

rusty voted 1 on this story.

Nice to see the open-source community step in when Big Biz tried to shut a project down. I guess the GPL works, eh? :-)

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But with OpenNAP servers and gnapst... (none / 0) (#2)
by Inoshiro on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 05:49:50 PM EST

Inoshiro voted 1 on this story.

But with OpenNAP servers and gnapster, there is no need to rely upon the central Napster server or potentially bug-ridden closed-source clients (heck, there already was a posting of a security bug to Bugtraq, the napster people responded quite cluelessly regarding the security matter, and I corrected them).

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... (3.00 / 1) (#5)
by stimuli on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 06:03:11 PM EST

stimuli voted 1 on this story.

So, the music industry want to use encryption to stop the spread of music. What this means, of course, is that they want to repeat the DVD debacle, and encrypt the music that we buy, and sue the shit out of anyone they discover who outsmarts them.

I keep hearing pundits saying that the record companies will become obsolete as artists come to just distribute material themselves over the new mediums. That would be great, but I wonder if it will happen soon, or if at all.

There is a "free market" solution, of course, where we refuse to buy from the companies and only listen to libre music. Does anyone here seriously see themselves doing this, however?

I guess sooner or later I'll need to buy a soundcard :)
-- Jeffrey Straszheim

Re: ... (none / 0) (#14)
by Matthew Guenther on Tue Apr 11, 2000 at 07:44:57 AM EST

There is a "free market" solution, of course, where we refuse to buy from the companies and only listen to libre music. Does anyone here seriously see themselves doing this, however?

Yes. I won't buy CD's or DVD's except through used stores, and I refuse to go to any of the major motion pictures in the theatre, instead I've been watching foreign films in the local community theatre. They're better most of the time anyways.

Simply complaining about how these people are violating our rights and then handing over money for their product is pretty hypocritical IMHO, and it's definitely not going to cause them to change their behaviour.

MBG



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http://gnutella.nerdherd.net/... (none / 0) (#7)
by dieman on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 06:37:25 PM EST

dieman voted -1 on this story.

http://gnutella.nerdherd.net/
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Was... http://gnutella.nerdherd.net/ Now... http:/ (none / 0) (#13)
by tnt on Tue Apr 11, 2000 at 12:11:16 AM EST

It was gnutella.nerdherd.net but now it is gnutella.wego.com.

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same site (gnutella.nerdherd.net) a... (none / 0) (#9)
by sethcohn on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 06:42:17 PM EST

sethcohn voted -1 on this story.

same site (gnutella.nerdherd.net) as before.... just moved.

Music? What does Gnutella have to d... (2.00 / 1) (#3)
by mattdm on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 07:23:13 PM EST

mattdm voted 0 on this story.

Music? What does Gnutella have to do with music? (I mean, any more than http or ftp do?)

Re: Music? What does Gnutella have to d... (none / 0) (#10)
by fluffy grue on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 09:57:47 PM EST

Gnutella is intended as an even less-decentralized Napster clone. Its primary purpose is for finding, downloading, and spreading (usually pirated) MP3s, although it can also be used for sharing other kinds of files.
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Re: Music? What does Gnutella have to d... (none / 0) (#11)
by fluffy grue on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 09:58:45 PM EST

er.. either s/less\-/more\-/ or s/decentralized/centralized/. Oops.
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Re: Music? What does Gnutella have to d... (none / 0) (#15)
by mattdm on Tue Apr 11, 2000 at 08:01:44 AM EST

If I recall, the authors explained that the primary purpose was for sharing recipies, and if people wanted to share mp3s, hey, they could do that too.

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Re: Music? What does Gnutella have to d... (none / 0) (#17)
by fluffy grue on Tue Apr 11, 2000 at 11:24:38 AM EST

Yeah, and the lyrics to "Not For You" by Pearljam really are "It's not for you, not you," as the jacket copy says, and not "It's not for you, fuck you!" as you hear on the radio. :) (Okay, that's a very dated example, but that also shows about the last time I listened to mainstream radio.)
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Re: Music? What does Gnutella have to d... (none / 0) (#18)
by mattdm on Wed Apr 12, 2000 at 08:37:03 AM EST

(I wasn't being entirely serious, obviously. Sorry for not using a ":-)".

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How can we not post an article abou... (none / 0) (#8)
by cthulhu on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 07:56:45 PM EST

cthulhu voted 1 on this story.

How can we not post an article about something that AOL and the RIAA hate so much?

...and it also makes it a &%(@! to ... (none / 0) (#6)
by nascent on Mon Apr 10, 2000 at 08:35:27 PM EST

nascent voted 1 on this story.

...and it also makes it a &%(@! to scale. There is a trade-off.
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Unix console version (none / 0) (#16)
by dlc on Tue Apr 11, 2000 at 11:05:00 AM EST

There is a unix version of the Gnutella client called GNut that is available for download/perusal. Looks pretty good.

darren


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