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Understanding Phone Sex

By rusty in News
Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 06:20:05 PM EST
Tags: Culture (all tags)
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It occurred to me that I haven't written anything here lately, and then, like a bolt from above comes this article on phone sex from GettingIt. I know this is odd, but bear with me here. It's a "day in the life" piece with a phone sex operator, about what people actually do with these services. And boy, is it weird. I found this by way of GeekNik. A few of my thoughts are below.


The most interesting line from the article, for me, was this one (about one caller, who didn't even want to talk about sex):
The fact that someone would pay someone by the minute just to talk depresses me way more than the notion of someone paying someone to talk about sex, which already depresses me pretty heavily.
Isn't this basically what psychotherapy is all about? Most psychologists cost more than three dollars a minute, and many of them talk mostly about sex. I know, they have a lot of degrees and learnin' but when it comes right down to it, I think the most good they do is just giving someone a neutral outlet to talk to.

What do you all think about this? The business has obviously had a fairly negative effect on the operator in the article, unless she was just always that way. Should people have to have training to deal with the ugly underside of the human psyche? Is it exploitation, or a good way to make a living? I'm so conflicted by this I don't even know where to begin, so I thought I'd turn it over to you.

And to tie in the "technology" aspect, is it liberating or just creepy that people can express these sorts of things over the phone (i.e. in a technologically-mediated way) to a total stranger? I'm guessing many of us here have revealed things about ourselves on IRC, or other net chat, that we never would have told our best friends. Has anyone had positive (or negative) experiences with that? Does it free us, or just force us into mediating all our human contact, and deepen our isolation?

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Understanding Phone Sex | 46 comments (46 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Sorta wierd...... (1.00 / 1) (#9)
by pulsar on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 12:43:54 PM EST

pulsar voted -1 on this story.

Sorta wierd...

I saw some news report done on tv a... (none / 0) (#15)
by Commienst on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 12:56:36 PM EST

Commienst voted 1 on this story.

I saw some news report done on tv a while ago that investigated into why people call phone pyschic hotlines for dollars a minute. One of the phone psychics said that the people who call are really just lonely people who want someone to talk to. Which reinforces the lonely notion brought up in the article.

Re: I saw some news report done on tv a... (none / 0) (#23)
by skim123 on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 11:03:45 PM EST

That's what I always figured. Why call a psychic, it violates logic. If the future is set in stone, then a psychic's prediction is worth nothing (since it will occur regardless). If the future is not set in stone, then how, with any certainty, can a psychic predict it?

Hmmm... guess those who put their faith in psychics aren't the most logical group of people, though.

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
Okay, but just this once. One arti... (none / 0) (#10)
by marlowe on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 01:03:27 PM EST

marlowe voted 1 on this story.

Okay, but just this once. One article on phone sex is enough to last a lifetime.
-- The Americans are the Jews of the 21st century. Only we won't go as quietly to the gas chambers. --

The more the technology "abstracts"... (none / 0) (#13)
by bgp4 on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 01:05:10 PM EST

bgp4 voted 1 on this story.

The more the technology "abstracts" you from the real world, the more likely you are to open up. Face-to-Face involves no technology. Many tend to not be them selves or "choke up" in personal discussions. The phone removes a lot of the visual cues and therefore a lot of the emotion of a conversation. An IRC window removes hearing, again taking away emotion. The only feelings are ones expressed in *'s and with /me comments. That is about as non-threatening as an environment can get. That's where people who can't open up will be able to start to express themselves.

Unless, of course, you're only concerned with trading warez.
May all your salads be eaten out of black hats

If we had to train and qualify peop... (none / 0) (#14)
by PerlGeek on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 01:06:42 PM EST

PerlGeek voted 1 on this story.

If we had to train and qualify people to listen to us talk, we wouldn't have enough of them. Whatever you think of phone sex, I can't see anything wrong with the guy calling a sex line just to talk. It's sad that he was that lonely and desperate, but I'm glad he found someone to talk to. Though, personally, I think IRC is cheaper. It's a little less personal, but you get to talk your heart out to people you don't have to ever see again. I used to be really messed up, spent a month or two on IRC every night, and then I was only moderately messed up. :) It can deepen the isolation, if you let it get between you and your irl friends (and family). If, on the other hand, you don't have any irl friends, making virtual ones can be a great way to start. Yeah, it can be a problem, a big one even, but it doesn't have to be, imho.

Re: If we had to train and qualify peop... (none / 0) (#45)
by Anonymous Hero on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 12:18:06 AM EST

I think it's plumb amazing that i figured out that you probably meant 'in real life' by saying irl, and not that you just had a broken g-key. I don't know how I knew that, what connection bzzapped in my brain to create that spark of inspiration. There was no precedent in my recollection. Isn't that amazing?

</braindump>

Right. Well anyway. I think it is in fact sad that someone had to call this phonesex chick to have someone to talk to, because what that means is that this person has no one cheaper to talk to. No one to whom he can pour his heart out. The idea is to have friends with whom you can talk about anything at all. Talking about sex imo would work best with the person to whom you're married. But between all the people you know there should be very little subject matter about which you can't talk. [Gerk, not having hanging prepositions sounds stilted.]

It ends up a lot cheaper than three dollars a minute, and if you can expect some contentful response or commiseration it is more valuable as well.

As someone famous once said, if two men are walking together and one falls, the other can pick him up. But pity the man walking alone... A cord of three strands is not easily broken.

[ Parent ]

IMO, telling people online personal... (none / 0) (#8)
by fluffy grue on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 01:59:12 PM EST

fluffy grue voted 1 on this story.

IMO, telling people online personal things can definitely become more isolating RL, especially when someone you know online turns out to be someone you know RL, or when someone RL has gone to an IRC channel you frequent or vice-versa. Lately I've discovered that it really doesn't matter, though... I used to try to keep my online (i.e. personal) persona completely separate from my RL persona, but nowadays you'll notice that my personal homepage and academic homepages prominently link to each other. I've also seen people in the computer lab reading my personal homepage, and so far I haven't gotten any grief from it. :)

As far as phonesex: I've never had phonesex. I've had plenty of netsex though. To me, it's basically a shared experience with creatively writing an erotic novel alongside someone else, and I don't go around and boink everyone I can find (unlike some people on FurryFUCK^H^H^H^HMUCK); I treat online relationships much like "normal" people treat RL relationships, where I get to know someone before letting myself get intimate with them. At least online there's no fear of STDs or the like, just emotional abandonment.
--
"Is not a quine" is not a quine.
I have a master's degree in science!

[ Hug Your Trikuare ]

Re: IMO, telling people online personal... (none / 0) (#24)
by skim123 on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 11:05:18 PM EST

Not to sound harsh, but, dude, get out and mingle with real people who are really in the same room as you!

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
Re: IMO, telling people online personal... (none / 0) (#31)
by fluffy grue on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 01:47:53 AM EST

Did I ever say I didn't? Read what I wrote. I used to get isolated because of the schizm between the personal stuff I revealed online and the fact I never wanted anyone I know RL to know about my gender issues and the like. I don't anymore. The implication was that because I don't do that sort of filtering anymore, I no longer get isolated RL.

Not to sound harsh, but you're a moron. (Sorry, couldn't help myself. :)
--
"Is not a quine" is not a quine.
I have a master's degree in science!

[ Hug Your Trikuare ]
[ Parent ]

Re: IMO, telling people online personal... (none / 0) (#37)
by skim123 on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 02:08:49 PM EST

Did I ever say I didn't? Read what I wrote. I used to get isolated because of the schizm between the personal stuff I revealed online and the fact I never wanted anyone I know RL to know about my gender issues and the like. I don't anymore. The implication was that because I don't do that sort of filtering anymore, I no longer get isolated RL

My bad. Good to hear that you are enjoying the real world now.

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
Re: IMO, telling people online personal... (none / 0) (#34)
by Anonymous Hero on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 03:40:22 AM EST

Hey you! Your website helped me out a bunch when I was working last summer doing ASP/SQL scripting. Good to see you visiting a local weblog.

Thanks for keeping your site informative, and I must say, your humour section is really great!

--Robert

[ Parent ]

Re: IMO, telling people online personal... (none / 0) (#38)
by skim123 on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 02:10:09 PM EST

Hey you! Your website helped me out a bunch when I was working last summer doing ASP/SQL scripting.

Glad to hear! Be sure to visit often, and recommend it to your friends and coworkers! Also, a shameless plug, but if you know those who are new to ASP, you might want to recommend our first book:

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Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
Wierd sociology rules.... (none / 0) (#17)
by Paradox on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 02:09:22 PM EST

Paradox voted 1 on this story.

Wierd sociology rules.
Dave "Paradox" Fayram

print print join q( ), split(q,q,,reverse qq;#qsti
qq)\;qlre;.q.pqevolqiqdog.);#1 reason to grin at Perl
print "\n";

All I can say is, "Blechhh!" Readin... (none / 0) (#6)
by Skippy on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 02:24:16 PM EST

Skippy voted 1 on this story.

All I can say is, "Blechhh!" Reading that article gave me the willies and depressed me. I can only sit amazed at the steel guts of the "journalist" who actually witnessed this. I'd have made it about as far as the initial phone call (to her where she asked for booze) before getting totally bummed and giving up.
# I am now finished talking out my ass about things that I am not qualified to discuss. #

Re: All I can say is, "Blechhh!" Readin... (none / 0) (#33)
by SDrifter on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 02:19:25 AM EST

Buh? What about the people that actually live it? The "journalist only had to witness it only once. The operators have to do this from 9 to 5, or whenever, every day. So... that must take titanium guts, yes? Oh, and by giving up, you missed the great part where she does all of this on Valium.
--
It burns!!!
It's loaded with wasabi!
[ Parent ]
Very good article.... (none / 0) (#7)
by skim123 on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 03:30:27 PM EST

skim123 voted 1 on this story.

Very good article.

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


Don't think this is really techie. ... (none / 0) (#19)
by TREE on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 03:49:38 PM EST

TREE voted -1 on this story.

Don't think this is really techie. Neat, but not apropos.

Just one gripe: ... (none / 0) (#18)
by Cryptnotic on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 03:53:58 PM EST

Cryptnotic voted 0 on this story.

Just one gripe:

A psychiatrist is a medical doctor who diagnoses mental diseases (things like chronic depression, schizophrenia, etc), and then can prescribe drugs to treat the disease. Most psychiatrists don't do (Freudian style) psychotherapy anymore.

A psychologist (which is what you meant) is someone who has a PhD in psychology. They don't help people with mental diseases. They can't prescribe drugs. They listen to people who have minor neuroses (hang-ups about how the world works).

In any case, the phone sex article is pretty boring, and probably complete bullshit. No reason to post it.

I look at this kind of like spillin... (none / 0) (#5)
by FlinkDelDinky on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 04:47:57 PM EST

FlinkDelDinky voted 1 on this story.

I look at this kind of like spilling your guts to somebody at the airport bar (never done that before but its on my todo list), or going to confession (haven't done this either, maybe I'll convert) only to an extreme degree.

Besides the sex industry is (wo)maned by marginal personalities. There's no secret there. Phone sex doesn't do it for me, at those rates you could get a pro.

Oh well, different strokes for different folks. No pun intended.

Re: I look at this kind of like spillin... (none / 0) (#25)
by skim123 on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 11:07:51 PM EST

I look at this kind of like spilling your guts to somebody at the airport bar (never done that before but its on my todo list), or going to confession (haven't done this either, maybe I'll convert) only to an extreme degree

What I think would be fun would be to make up some whacked out shit. Then, get a little buzzed at the bar and start "confessing." Really whacked out depressing shit, like catching your wife and brother going at it, or getting in a car accident which was fatal to the other driver and finding out the other driver was your 16 year old son.

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
Re: I look at this kind of like spillin... (none / 0) (#28)
by driph on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 12:23:11 AM EST

What I think would be fun would be to make up some whacked out shit. Then, get a little buzzed at the bar and start "confessing." Really whacked out depressing shit, like catching your wife and brother going at it, or getting in a car accident which was fatal to the other driver and finding out the other driver was your 16 year old son.

My old roommate and I used to have a running gag between us very similar to this. We'd be in a crowded elevator or standing in a line or something and one of us would start with something like

"So how's the court case going? That's amazing they let you out on bail..."

"Yeah, but I'm not supposed to be out of the state right now. It's all good though, they'll never be able to prove that I did it."

(continue from there..)

--
Vegas isn't a liberal stronghold. It's the place where the rich and powerful gamble away their company's pension fund and strangle call girls in their hotel rooms. - Psycho Dave
[ Parent ]
Even better elevator gag (none / 0) (#29)
by rusty on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 12:55:47 AM EST

Person 1: "So, what'd the doctor say?"
Person 2: "Well, he said the rash would start to clear up pretty soon, but it's still virulently infectious."
P1: "And the oozing pus...?"
P2: "Yeah, I'm still wearing the Depends for that..."

etc. Preferably in a crowded elevator. :-)

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

Re: Even better elevator gag (none / 0) (#32)
by driph on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 02:11:08 AM EST

Hahah, yep! "The disease" was one of the versions we did.. ask about it, positive reply, followed by hacking and coughing or something similar.. We did that one New Years on the Strip(wall to wall people) and some lady facing away turned around and looked at us bug-eyed..

--
Vegas isn't a liberal stronghold. It's the place where the rich and powerful gamble away their company's pension fund and strangle call girls in their hotel rooms. - Psycho Dave
[ Parent ]
Re: I look at this kind of like spillin... (none / 0) (#36)
by skim123 on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 02:07:30 PM EST

While that sounds like fun I think it lacks the impact telling an innocent person a story directly. For example, when we overhear something, it doesn't affect as much as if we're being told directly. First off, the two bozos could be faking it (like you and your friend!), so people take it with a grain of salt. However, if you were to have a couple of drinks, bond with some guy at a bar, and then, in really quiet, depressing terms, described some whacked out story... fuck, that would just be killer.

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
And to think those lucky catholics ... (none / 0) (#11)
by openface on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:01:25 PM EST

openface voted 1 on this story.

And to think those lucky catholics have the leisure of confessing to a priest for even less than $3 a minute.

Let's talk about Sex.... (none / 0) (#4)
by xah on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:02:47 PM EST

xah voted 1 on this story.

Let's talk about Sex.

Baby! (none / 0) (#30)
by locutus074 on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 01:31:46 AM EST

:)
--
"If you haven't gotten where you're going,
you aren't there yet." --George Carlin
[ Parent ]
I liked it, but still don't think i... (none / 0) (#16)
by Skinny Puppy on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:23:47 PM EST

Skinny Puppy voted -1 on this story.

I liked it, but still don't think it is for the site.
Skinny Puppy

I saw a .sig somewhere which went s... (none / 0) (#2)
by joeyo on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:24:57 PM EST

joeyo voted 1 on this story.

I saw a .sig somewhere which went something like this: IRC is just like real life- 90% of the people are morons, the only difference is that they all want to have sex with you

--
"Give me enough variables to work with, and I can probably do away with the notion of human free will." -- demi

This is very interesting, from a ps... (none / 0) (#3)
by Inoshiro on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:48:55 PM EST

Inoshiro voted 1 on this story.

This is very interesting, from a psychological stand point. Have you ever happened upon archived stories from, say, the newsgroup alt.sex.stories? It's mostly "normal" stuff.. But there are the odd ones like that one thing this talks about.. And it's really weird.

Perhaps Sigmund Freud started it all with his constant association of everything with sex and an oedipus complex.

And perhaps it's just people who feel like talking about very strange things, but are afraid of repercussions. On the phone line, there is no such thing, thanks to the magic of some money.. It's odd.



--
[ イノシロ ]
Re: This is very interesting, from a ps... (none / 0) (#21)
by Demona on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 08:26:19 PM EST

"And it's really weird."

Weird is anything someone else is into.

[ Parent ]

Re: This is very interesting, from a ps... (none / 0) (#39)
by Inoshiro on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 05:20:39 PM EST

No.. I can say "just different" to a lot of things.. but cutting off the member, putting high heels on, and stompting on it is .. weird :-)

--
[ イノシロ ]
[ Parent ]
PH0N4 Z4X RV14Z!!! PH0N4 Z4X F4R 4V... (none / 0) (#12)
by dlc on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:49:16 PM EST

dlc voted 1 on this story.

PH0N4 Z4X RV14Z!!! PH0N4 Z4X F4R 4V4RY0N4!!!

(darren)

Socially-inadequate guys can't get ... (none / 0) (#1)
by Paul Dunne on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 05:49:33 PM EST

Paul Dunne voted -1 on this story.

Socially-inadequate guys can't get girlfriends, so instead call phone-sex lines and jerk off while listening -- film at 11... Er, I mean, sorry to be crude; but, what planet have you been living on that you didn't know about this? And what is there to discuss?
http://dunne.home.dhs.org/

chuckle (none / 0) (#41)
by nascent on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 09:17:36 PM EST

After you finish reading everything on this page, ask us that again.
nascent
http://www.intap.net/~j/
[ Parent ]
Re: chuckle (none / 0) (#42)
by Paul Dunne on Thu Apr 20, 2000 at 03:06:55 AM EST

Yup, read everything Mr Teacher Sir. Now what? As a piece of go-nowhere breast-beating, the article takes some doing, I'll say that. So, since you invite me to, I'll ask again: what planet have you been living on that you didn't know about this? And what is there to discuss?
http://dunne.home.dhs.org/
[ Parent ]
Re: chuckle (none / 0) (#43)
by nascent on Thu Apr 20, 2000 at 09:37:19 AM EST

*sigh*
nascent
http://www.intap.net/~j/
[ Parent ]
Re: chuckle (none / 0) (#44)
by rusty on Thu Apr 20, 2000 at 04:11:16 PM EST

Hey, now kids. Be nice, OK? What makes us civilized people is that we can agree to disagree. :-)

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
Re: chuckle (none / 0) (#46)
by Paul Dunne on Mon Apr 24, 2000 at 05:28:04 PM EST

Agree to disagree? But where's the fun in that?! Hell, no. I'm looking forward to the day when I can use lkill(6) [luser kill -- what else?] to "take out" anyone who dares to disagree with me here (or vote against my articles, for that matter). "You talkin' to me?..."

(Besides, that guy nascent started it. I'm gonna get my dad to beat up his dad. I bet my dad's bigger than his dad.)
http://dunne.home.dhs.org/
[ Parent ]

The effects of technology on the hu... (none / 0) (#20)
by ishbak on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 06:19:30 PM EST

ishbak voted 1 on this story.

The effects of technology on the human mind are worth discussing. Even if they are a little off topic like this one.

The net side: Camgirls (none / 0) (#22)
by driph on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 09:22:58 PM EST

I feel I can post my opinions on this kind of thing with a bit of authority, as
1) I've done quite a bit of work in the online adult industry,(web work, not work work..:]..) especially live cam sites, etc. (and it wasn't until this afternoon that I finally ended up with a subscription to AVN Online.)
and 2) I met my girlfriend of a year while working at one of the above companies, and she is a cam girl. (working from home, profit sharing with two high profile sites. She works when she wants, and controls all aspects of her show )

The above article is pretty close to the truth, although I'd be interested in hearing what kind of phone sex ad the guys in question were calling (ie "Young Nubile Virgins" vs "Trashy Chicks That'll Do ANYTHING!"), as calls that perverted are actually a fairly rare occurance. Although I'm still amazed at the percentage of foot fetish guys online.

Typically, yes, the user does want to get off sexually at some point during the call. Many are of the "wham bam thank you maam" type, lasting only a few minutes or so, but some users will stay on for hours, spending hundreds of dollars, just to talk. I think it's the ability to not only talk to someone who is understanding and won't demean or ridicule them, but to talk to someone very attractive(or whatever the draw of the particular girl) who is understanding and won't demean or ridicule them.

Personally, I'd rather my girlfriend be online as opposed to a phone sex operator like the girl in the story for a couple of reasons. First, the net is less intimate than a phone call. Personal, yes. Intimate, no. And second, what was the name of that movie where the guy's wife was a phone sex operator, and he would listen as she did her thing all day talking trash into the phone? Whenever they would have sex, he couldn't get her to talk dirty to him at all, because she'd just spent all day doing just that. It was driving him crazy. That would suck. :]

--
Vegas isn't a liberal stronghold. It's the place where the rich and powerful gamble away their company's pension fund and strangle call girls in their hotel rooms. - Psycho Dave

Re: The net side: Camgirls (none / 0) (#26)
by skim123 on Tue Apr 18, 2000 at 11:11:10 PM EST

Neat that your girlfriend is an online stripper of sorts. As her boyfriend, how does this make you feel, knowing that hundreds, if not thousands, of men across the world are jerking off to her touching herself? A power-trip, I bet.

Anyway, does she have any problems with it? The lady in the article got boozed up before talking to the "johns." Does your girlfriend get intoxicated before going "online?"

Money is in some respects like fire; it is a very excellent servant but a terrible master.
PT Barnum


[ Parent ]
Re: The net side: Camgirls (none / 0) (#27)
by driph on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 12:12:45 AM EST

As her boyfriend, how does this make you feel, knowing that hundreds, if not thousands, of men across the world are jerking off to her touching herself? A power-trip, I bet.

I compare it to window shopping. When the store is closed, you can stare inside at the items on display all you want, but you can't take em home. :]

Also, I like the fact that she is doing it because she knows it's a good way to make quite a bit of money, as opposed to it (or stripping, etc) being the only thing she is capable of doing. Plus, if one had to define her style of show in one word, it'd be something like "erotic" as opposed to "smut." (closer to the style of say IsabellaCam than that of the typical chathost on Ifriends or something.)
I wouldn't call it a powertrip. Although it is nice knowing that I am the one she's chooses to be with, that isn't really a result of her being online.. She's a very attractive AND intelligent woman(and I'm slowly turning her into a geek.. bought her computer speakers for Valentines Day and she loved it..:]..) so I'm used to other men(and women) making advances on her..

Anyway, does she have any problems with it? The lady in the article got boozed up before talking to the "johns." Does your girlfriend get intoxicated before going "online?"

She used to be sketchy about the idea that her image was available for anyone to see, and the graphic nature of the work.. Not to mention that its actually hard work, if you do it well. She's become more comfortable with it, and really when you get down to it, it's just skin.
If you are going to make use of an attractive body to make money, going online is probably much better than stripping at a club. You don't have to wander around soliciting men, acting like you are in love with each one of em, and you don't have to actually grind up against anyone. The money is about the same, and you have MUCH more control of your environment.

Again, the girl in the article dealt with users that were MUCH more disturbing than what I've seen in my experience.
My girlfriend doesn't tend to get really involved in it, although she actually does enjoy herself on occasion. I am also just off cam every now and than. :]

--
Vegas isn't a liberal stronghold. It's the place where the rich and powerful gamble away their company's pension fund and strangle call girls in their hotel rooms. - Psycho Dave
[ Parent ]
Re: The net side: Camgirls (none / 0) (#35)
by lachoy on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 11:56:23 AM EST

And second, what was the name of that movie where the guy's wife was a phone sex operator, and he would listen as she did her thing all day talking trash into the phone? Whenever they would have sex, he couldn't get her to talk dirty to him at all, because she'd just spent all day doing just that. It was driving him crazy. That would suck. :]

That movie would be Short Cuts. That scene at the end where he (Chris Penn) whacks the young girl he just met upside the head just before the earthquake always creeps me out. Before that, you realize that he's frustrated (sexually and otherwise), but not the extent. Brr.
M-x auto-bs-mode
[ Parent ]

Kinks (none / 0) (#40)
by nascent on Wed Apr 19, 2000 at 08:37:11 PM EST

Any argument that takes umbrage with a method of communication - not because it's ineffective but because it's new and attacked as being "impersonal" - is going to get sh*t from me.

And as far as the operator herself, she has a decision to make: money or enjoyment of the job. She'd probably find she'd get both if she picked the latter.

I think it's funny that calling a stranger is considered the edge of acceptable sexual behavior but toe-sucking is off the fettish chart in terms of eroticism. At least the guy isn't licking the handset. Well...
nascent
http://www.intap.net/~j/

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