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KGB's Successors Ask ISP's To Shoulder Costs Of Spying

By gaijin|dog | in News|News
Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 05:03:14 PM EST
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According to this article at Sunspot.net, the broke successors to the KGB are asking (i.e. demanding) that ISP's provide spies with computers, accounts, modems, and the passwords of their users. I just hope it doesn't give our gov't any ideas, although they do seem to be on the fast track towards monitoring every bit of information we send/recieve (Echelon).


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KGB's Successors Ask ISP's To Shoulder Costs Of Spying | 12 comments (12 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
This is really old news. I read it ... (1.00 / 1) (#2)
by alisdair on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 09:34:36 AM EST

alisdair voted -1 on this story.

This is really old news. I read it in The Guardian months ago, and it was hardly exciting stuff then. Plus your article is broken: you repeated yourself.

This is really old news. I read it in The Guardian months ago, and it was hardly exciting stuff then. Plus your article is broken: you repeated yourself.

I would vote 1, but you didn't prev... (1.00 / 1) (#5)
by krogoth on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 09:41:14 AM EST

krogoth voted 0 on this story.

I would vote 1, but you didn't preview the story, and you repeat yourself.
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Very good story -- however, I'm vot... (1.00 / 1) (#3)
by locutus074 on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 10:47:46 AM EST

locutus074 voted -1 on this story.

Very good story -- however, I'm voting against posting this in the current form. Fix the formatting boo-boo. :)
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The two paragraphs are redundant.... (1.00 / 1) (#1)
by xah on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 11:43:11 AM EST

xah voted -1 on this story.

The two paragraphs are redundant.

It's fun to keep track of what the ... (1.00 / 1) (#7)
by meldroc on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 12:21:36 PM EST

meldroc voted 1 on this story.

It's fun to keep track of what the spook agencies are up to!

Yes, but echelon's goal is to monio... (2.00 / 1) (#6)
by tidepool on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 12:32:55 PM EST

tidepool voted 1 on this story.

Yes, but echelon's goal is to monior data without causing a ruckas. (Hence, we have just seen formal people admitting the exsistence of the echelon system). The KGB like goobers are show this off all over the place.

This news is well over a year old. ... (1.00 / 1) (#4)
by Pseudonymous Coward on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 12:37:57 PM EST

Pseudonymous Coward voted -1 on this story.

This news is well over a year old. I don't think there's a need to present it here today.

I don't know whether to laugh out l... (1.00 / 1) (#9)
by yebyen on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 02:15:25 PM EST

yebyen voted 1 on this story.

I don't know whether to laugh out loud or shriek in terror.

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This is all the more reason we need... (3.00 / 1) (#8)
by PurpleBob on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 04:26:40 PM EST

PurpleBob voted 1 on this story.

This is all the more reason we need to be worried about Echelon. At least people in Russia KNOW they're being monitored... This quote at the end just about sums up the situation: "I never mention dangerous words," he said, "like SORM, KGB - or freedom."

Providing passwords?! (3.00 / 1) (#10)
by fluffy grue on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 05:19:21 PM EST

Yeek. And, of course, they probably won't take the plausible deniability of the fact that responsible ISPs can't get the passwords of their users (since responsible ISPs use a one-way hash, preferrably salted, unless they're running QNX of course). Guess this means that a lot of russian ISPs will have to start using UUE "encryption" for /etc/passwd now. :(

And yeah, of course, this may give our KGB way too many ideas. I'm gonna keep using ssh for all the connections I can. Maybe I'll also demand that the sysadmins here switch to md5-based passwords.
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Re: Providing passwords?! (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous Hero on Mon Apr 24, 2000 at 02:03:00 AM EST

Yeek. And, of course, they probably won't take the plausible deniability of the fact that responsible ISPs can't get the passwords of their users (since responsible ISPs use a one-way hash, preferrably salted, unless they're running QNX of course). Guess this means that a lot of russian ISPs will have to start using UUE "encryption" for /etc/passwd now. :(
You're forgetting the fact that the passwd command's source is available. ISPs could easily use such a modified program to append new passwords onto a file. This approach would not be very secure, but it would satisfy the FSB's requirements.

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This is pretty funny. (1.00 / 2) (#11)
by Nyarlathotep on Sat Apr 22, 2000 at 06:16:13 PM EST

The intelegence types are too stupid to use the equipment themselves! They need the ISPs to train their people. That's hilarious. Seriously, we need to make GPG a standard pat of all linux mail readers which are distributed with RedHat. The mail readers to use the key servers to find the public key of your recipiant, but when they could not find a public key the default configuration would make a big stink about how this email was insecure. This might make people start using encrypted email.
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