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Mattel guts SSI

By CodeWright in News
Sun Apr 09, 2000 at 07:53:03 AM EST
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For those of you not interested in the entertainment side of the computer software industry, this news will have less import -- for those of you who like computer strategy and/or role-playing games, this news is of significant import.


Due to continued gross incompetence, Mattel unsurprisingly posted a pre-tax loss of more than $200 million last year. In a typical corporate blend of greed, incompetence, and short-sightedness, Mattel is selling off / breaking up some of its most recent acquisitions to generate some quick cash and fool the shareholders into thinking that they are actually a responsible corporation.

Mattel is breaking up the Learning Co, shutting down the Mindscape and Red Orb divisions, and gutting SSI to turn it into a "brand" for strategy and role-playing games (which, given the HotWheels/Barbie core market of Mattel, won't last long).

If anyone here knows anyone at SSI, it might be a good idea to get some kind of dialog going with them, to help them brainstorm a way to reacquire themselves back from Mattel -- because if they don't, it is only a matter of time before Mattel gives the developers walking papers, one at a time.... and then the synergy that is SSI will be gone forever...

Perhaps some of the core team might be able to band together and start a new company some day, but it won't be any time soon -- the sooner they extract an intact company from Mattel, the better.

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Mattel guts SSI | 23 comments (23 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Mattel bought the Learning Company?... (none / 0) (#5)
by bmetzler on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 07:23:57 PM EST

bmetzler voted 1 on this story.

Mattel bought the Learning Company? I didn't know that.
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Some links might be helpful. :-) ... (none / 0) (#11)
by tnt on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 07:31:02 PM EST

tnt voted 1 on this story.

Some links might be helpful. :-)

(Links to the vaious organizations you are talknig about.)

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Not much of a strategy (of the SSI ... (none / 0) (#8)
by Skippy on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 07:37:38 PM EST

Skippy voted 1 on this story.

Not much of a strategy (of the SSI sort) gamer. It would be a crying shame if SSI died though. Mattel isn't doing very well in my book recently. First the CPhack crap, now this. Grrr.
# I am now finished talking out my ass about things that I am not qualified to discuss. #

Interesting start. Need a lot more ... (none / 0) (#9)
by mattdm on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 08:15:49 PM EST

mattdm voted -1 on this story.

Interesting start. Need a lot more before this is worth posting.

Hmmm. While I think this fits into ... (none / 0) (#13)
by analog on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 08:59:27 PM EST

analog voted -1 on this story.

Hmmm. While I think this fits into the overall theme of Kuro5hin, and a post about the situation is certainly appropriate, I think maybe losing the antagonistic tone (esp. the first paragraph) and gratuitous bolding of paragraphs and resubmitting might be a good idea.

Ok, I'd like to edit this, but I'm ... (none / 0) (#1)
by rusty on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 09:22:23 PM EST

rusty voted -1 on this story.

Ok, I'd like to edit this, but I'm not even sure where to start. Please provide some more information-- What is SSI? What is Mattell doing to them? Why should it be of interest to the general public? I'm just confused by this, and there are no links at all. :-/

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I think this story could have been ... (none / 0) (#18)
by Pike on Fri Apr 07, 2000 at 11:42:17 PM EST

Pike voted -1 on this story.

I think this story could have been much better formatted, as well as giving us a clue why things like Mindscape are important; for instance, I believe Mindscape is the company that makes the Chessmaster series. That first paragraph is supposed to tell us why we might want to read more, besides giving at least the barebones of who-what-when-where-why.

-JD

Would be better with a link to some... (none / 0) (#2)
by Zer0 on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 01:35:13 AM EST

Zer0 voted 1 on this story.

Would be better with a link to somewhere

Hmm. More corporate bone heads pret... (none / 0) (#15)
by pulsar on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 01:59:57 AM EST

pulsar voted 1 on this story.

Hmm. More corporate bone heads pretending to do real work.. it's really sad... I really wish these companies would stop buying up other companies that actually have some going for them! Then there are things like the MPAA, don't even get me started on that!!!

this is just anthour story of a cor... (none / 0) (#20)
by skipjack on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 02:55:16 AM EST

skipjack voted 0 on this story.

this is just anthour story of a corperation trying to cover up it's mistakes. I have read more of these type of storys then I care to.
"Don't Panic" h2g2

Whiel the information may be true, ... (none / 0) (#19)
by soulhuntre on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 03:49:43 AM EST

soulhuntre voted -1 on this story.

Whiel the information may be true, the gross slant of the opinions effectively destroys any chance at meaningful discussion. That might be forgivable, but the story also doesn;t give us pointers to the "raw" information and stories so we can decide for ourselves.

SSI -- been a long time since i he... (none / 0) (#7)
by henrik on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 05:28:28 AM EST

henrik voted 0 on this story.

SSI -- been a long time since i heard anything about 'em.

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I think Sierra and Hasbro Interacti... (none / 0) (#14)
by eann on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 08:13:46 AM EST

eann voted 1 on this story.

I think Sierra and Hasbro Interactive have both had some problems recently, too. I guess Sega, Sony, and Nintendo are really hurting the PC game makers.

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Re: I think Sierra and Hasbro Interacti... (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous Hero on Sun Apr 09, 2000 at 06:07:34 PM EST

Nay - I don't think this is accurate. The PC game market is thriving more than ever. I think other, more youthful and energetic PC gaming companies are the ones hurting these older gaming companies. Times are changing, and so are gaming needs. Innovation is the key... Just a thought

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I know a lot of people care deeply ... (none / 0) (#17)
by marlowe on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 08:52:17 AM EST

marlowe voted 0 on this story.

I know a lot of people care deeply about games. I'm not one of them.
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What does SSI do excatly? I've neve... (none / 0) (#10)
by complex on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 10:20:49 AM EST

complex voted 0 on this story.

What does SSI do excatly? I've never heard of the company.

Re: What does SSI do excatly? I've neve... (none / 0) (#22)
by Snug on Sun Apr 09, 2000 at 03:49:34 PM EST

SSI is one of THE computer strategy gamehouses. Unfortunately it has done more 'commercial' stuff in recent years. Steel Panther serie was OK, but nowdays I prefer Talonsoft games. By commercial I mean less realistic, not that HC ;). But I hope SSI keeps in business because there just ain't too many strategy gamehouses. We've allready lost Avalon Hill (boardgames mainly), stay with us SSI! SSI has long history, first SSI games I remember where published on C64. BTW does anybody remeber what happened to SSH? Oh, and SSI does PPG stuff also, but since I don't play them don't know much about that side.

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Not culture, not tech. And I rarel... (none / 0) (#16)
by nascent on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 10:33:43 AM EST

nascent voted -1 on this story.

Not culture, not tech. And I rarely vote "dump" on a story. No offense tho.
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Somebody's gonna beat me with a clu... (none / 0) (#3)
by joeyo on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 11:29:54 AM EST

joeyo voted 0 on this story.

Somebody's gonna beat me with a cluestick for this but... What's SSI?

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(Offtopic comment: Hey Rusty... one... (none / 0) (#12)
by fluffy grue on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 12:31:16 PM EST

fluffy grue voted 0 on this story.

(Offtopic comment: Hey Rusty... one problem with the new look is I can't tell where the headline blurb ends and the feature writing ends.)
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at first I thought SSI == server si... (none / 0) (#4)
by Fish on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 12:54:23 PM EST

Fish voted 1 on this story.

at first I thought SSI == server side includes, oops.

A potentially good story, although ... (none / 0) (#6)
by driph on Sat Apr 08, 2000 at 01:24:09 PM EST

Driph voted 0 on this story.

A potentially good story, although I don't think you filled the reader in with enough information.. A lot of people aren't going to have a clue who SSI is, or what their relationship with Mattel is like.

For a lil background knowledge, SSI created Pool of Radiance, one of the first D&D games(if I'm correct, this is off the top of my head here..heh..) and is in the process of making a new version of the game... a fairly high profile project..
They're also responsible for Warlords, and a ton of other strat type games..

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Re: Mattel guts SSI (none / 0) (#21)
by PrettyBoyTim on Sun Apr 09, 2000 at 11:56:27 AM EST

Due to continued gross incompetence, Mattel unsurprisingly posted a pre-tax loss of more than $200 million last year. In a typical corporate blend of greed, incompetence, and short-sightedness, Mattel is selling off / breaking up some of its most recent acquisitions to generate some quick cash and fool the shareholders into thinking that they are actually a responsible corporation.

It would be nice if you gave a bit of info to back this up... as it is it just sounds like a bit of name-calling because they're dismantling your favourite little games company.

It's a harsh fact of life that there are a lot of games companies out there that depsite making good games, don't do very well finacially. Good games not neccesarily equate with good sales. Just look at Battlezone, for instance - it was (In my view) a very good groundbreaking game, and it got a lot of very good games. However, it didn't sell very well and didn't break even. Luckily Activision decided to let them go ahead with a sequel despite this.

cheers,

Tim

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