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Stopping DMCA, SDMI, CSS, RIAA, MPAA and other acronyms

By pdubroy in News
Sat May 06, 2000 at 05:35:03 PM EST
Tags: Freedom (all tags)
Freedom

It seems the United States government, with support (read coaxing) from many large corporations including the RIAA, MPAA, etc., is making substantial steps towards removing freedom and anonymity from the internet. The original intentions of copyright and patent law have been lost -- perhaps forever -- and laws like the DMCA threaten to turn the internet into police state bent on capturing "pirates".

In theory, these laws do not affect countries outside of the US, although we have already seen a frightening example of how far the long arm of US law can reach. If you are a US citizen, it is easy enough to make your views heard. You can contact your government "representatives", and you can participate in formal protests. But what about those of us that live outside of the US? How can we have a say in the laws that may be used against us?


Don't get me wrong. Copyright exists for a purpose, and in many cases serves that purpose very well. Under most countries' law, artists such as Metallica have a right to take action against those that illegally use their works. This is not so outrageous; consider the outcry in the free (libre) software community when a large corporation violates the GPL. The situations are not much different.

What concerns me about the stricter applications of copyright law is that we may, directly or indirectly, lose our freedom on the internet. I am a Canadian citizen, and I would like to take a stand against some of the actions of the US government. What is the best way to do this? Should I just try and spread the revolution word-of-mouth style: put up a web site, attach comments in my .sig, etc.? Or are there other, more formal, means of protest that anyone can suggest? What are freedom advocates around the world doing to ensure that their privacy is protected on the internet?

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Stopping DMCA, SDMI, CSS, RIAA, MPAA and other acronyms | 20 comments (20 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Hey ... what other issue is hotter ... (none / 0) (#7)
by jdiggans on Sat May 06, 2000 at 12:51:32 PM EST

jdiggans voted 1 on this story.

Hey ... what other issue is hotter than this at the moment?

The U.S. doesn't listen to its own ... (4.00 / 2) (#2)
by evro on Sat May 06, 2000 at 01:09:27 PM EST

evro voted 1 on this story.

The U.S. doesn't listen to its own citizens. I don't think there's too much hope for outsiders to be heard.
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I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#1)
by Greener on Sat May 06, 2000 at 04:03:02 PM EST

Greener voted 1 on this story.

I too am a Canadian and I am tired of the US running the show and there not being anything anyone else around the world can do about it. Is it not true that the US ows the United Nations around one billion (I may be wrong on the amount but its alot) in membership dues and the UN isn't doing a thing about it. Maybe the UN should attack the USfr abusing their power like the US is doing to Microsoft.

At least that's my $0.02 CND

Re: I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#8)
by FlinkDelDinky on Sat May 06, 2000 at 05:43:20 PM EST

As an American I hope we don't pay the UN. What a huge pile of caca. The hypocracy of the US is more than matched by those caca heads at the UN.

Jeez, everything just seems so out of control.

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Re: I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous Hero on Sun May 07, 2000 at 10:27:30 AM EST

If the US will not pay, should they not be expelled from the Security Council and all UN missions and meetings thereof?

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Re: I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#14)
by rusty on Sun May 07, 2000 at 12:45:30 PM EST

But of course, the practical question is: who's gonna throw the US out of the UN? And, if the UN actually did such a thing, who would bankroll it after that? The US may owe membership dues, but who pays for UN actions? Granted most of the time the UN takes action only when its not in the interests of the United States to be seen as the sole military force, but basically, the UN is the US's foreign-policy wing at this point.

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Re: I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#15)
by evro on Sun May 07, 2000 at 02:17:49 PM EST

I don't have any numbers to back it up, but I'd guess that the UN military/police/"peacekeeping" force is >= 50% American troops. If the UN doesn't have the support of the US, I would guess it would be pretty much a paper tiger.

I think the UN should forget about the US's debt in exchange for the US forgetting about the debts owed it by the poorest countries of the world, the ones bankrupting those countries just on the interest alone. It's not like we need blood money to get by here (regardless of how Yahoo's stock price is doing), and I'm sure the UN gets more than enough support from the US.
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Re: I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#16)
by FlinkDelDinky on Sun May 07, 2000 at 02:51:29 PM EST

Absolutely! The US should be expelled from the UN. Let those stupid, fat, lethargic, greedy (yes they are), uninlightened (yep), racist (you bet they are), and tribal (without question) Euro nations bank roll that maggot nest of caca.

You thought Smackdown was crude? Wait till you see the UN run itself without US payola. Now that would be entertaining.

Two things I don't trust are big government and big money. It's not that great things can't be done with them, it's just that they carry the burden of proof. It's a heavy burden.

PS. As a related aside: If you want to help someone, and in doing so you find yourself feeling big and powerful, you're doing it wrong.

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Re: I too am a Canadian and I am tired ... (none / 0) (#19)
by anonymous cowerd on Mon May 08, 2000 at 11:58:42 AM EST

What are you talking about? Don't you think this country should pay for services rendered? Of course the U.S. should pay the UN. When does the UN ever defy the U.S.A.? Never, of course; we have a veto, you know. Everywhere on the globe the UN does the bidding of the U.S.A. For example, the UN provided international political coverage for the Persian Gulf War, a war which was mainly fought by the U.S.A., mainly for the interests of the U.S.A.

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Just go to your own government, and... (none / 0) (#4)
by RobotSlave on Sat May 06, 2000 at 04:08:30 PM EST

RobotSlave voted 0 on this story.

Just go to your own government, and encourage them to oppose international treaties, trade agreements, etc, that give undue power to the US, or that replicate its harmful policies. I think you'll find there's no lack of anti-US sentiment in the Canadian goverment.

Re: Just go to your own government, and... (none / 0) (#11)
by mattdm on Sat May 06, 2000 at 11:56:45 PM EST

It's not ALL the US. Our patents used to last for 17 years -- now, thanks to international treaties, we've extended that to 20.

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Good topic, but I think we've all h... (none / 0) (#3)
by pb on Sat May 06, 2000 at 04:44:07 PM EST

pb voted 0 on this story.

Good topic, but I think we've all heard it a few zillion times by now...
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blah, no one can do a thing about t... (1.00 / 1) (#6)
by haiku san on Sat May 06, 2000 at 04:58:40 PM EST

haiku san voted -1 on this story.

blah, no one can do a thing about this

Unfortunately I lack for Congressio... (none / 0) (#5)
by adric on Sat May 06, 2000 at 05:07:24 PM EST

adric voted 1 on this story.

Unfortunately I lack for Congressional Representation.

I will probably have to start corresponding with my senator though.

Re: Stopping DMCA, SDMI, CSS, RIAA, MPAA and other (5.00 / 1) (#9)
by Perpetual Newbie on Sat May 06, 2000 at 07:19:22 PM EST

Educate.

Complain loudly and openly in public. Write detailed in-depth websites on the matters, write to your local newspapers(both "legitimate" and "alternative"), write to the local TV and radio stations, write to your congresscritters and state reps. If not in the US, write to your representatives anyway, explain how the US was able to get Jon Johansen arrested in Norway even though his actions were explicitly legal according to Norwegian copywright laws(point out the specific section of law).

Get organized. Group together with other people that don't like this stuff, coordinate opposition and sorting fact from rumour about the situation. Devise and offer alternatives where applicable. If it comes to it, organize public protest. Get people in high places in your organization; get people from your organization in high places.

Re: Stopping DMCA, SDMI, CSS, RIAA, MPAA and other (5.00 / 1) (#10)
by mattc on Sat May 06, 2000 at 08:25:40 PM EST

Well, one way is to practice civil disobedience. Just like what the DeCSS people have done -- now there are thousands of copies of that source code out there and no government can stop it. In fact, when you think about it, most big changes happen through some sort of civil disobedience or revolution (civil rights movement, vietnam draft protests, american revolution, ...)

As for those people outside the US trying to avoid the long arm of imperialism... I guess just try to convince your government to stand up for itself, and hope your country doesn't end up bombed into oblivion or economically blacklisted.

Re: Stopping DMCA, SDMI, CSS, RIAA, MPAA and other (none / 0) (#12)
by Foogle on Sun May 07, 2000 at 09:40:51 AM EST

Everyone is distributing DeCSS, but is anyone really using it? I found it almost impossible (and next to worthless) to use that stuff. So, seriously, is that really civil disobedience, or just some techy way of being a rebel?

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OT: doesnt anyone know what "Acronym" me (none / 0) (#17)
by Anonymous Hero on Sun May 07, 2000 at 04:58:05 PM EST

Yeah I know this is offtopic, but I'm really sick of people misusing the word "acronym." An acronym is an abbreviated expression that forms a pronouncable word. Thus DMCA, SDMI, CSS, and the like are simply abbreviations since they fail to meet that requirement. If you prounounced them as something like "Dim-ka, sid-me, kuh-sus" or the like, then those expressions would be acronyms. But since you pronounce them letter by letter, they are abbreviations, not acronyms.

Re: OT: doesnt anyone know what "Acronym" (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous Hero on Sun May 07, 2000 at 07:46:22 PM EST

I have a habit of pronouncng all abbreviations I see, even all consonant ones, including DMCA (Dim-ka) and CSS (Ke-sis) ....

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Re: Stopping DMCA, SDMI, CSS, RIAA, MPAA and other (none / 0) (#20)
by mebreathing on Mon May 08, 2000 at 05:08:13 PM EST

The best way to screw over these corporate fat cats is to legitimize the use of the technology. Find other uses Gnutella than toonz, warez and kiddie porn, and hence get more support from people who have money and power. "This is me breathing"

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