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Chocolate as health food

By hubie in News
Sun Jul 02, 2000 at 04:24:41 PM EST
Tags: Culture (all tags)

The on-line part of Science News has an article about the historical and cultural uses of chocolate as medicine.

Not only did I find the article interesting, but at the end is a recipe for "Janet's Chocolate Medicinal Mousse Pie" which lists tofu as the main ingredient (as unpalatable as this sounds, I think I just might try it out---for health reasons, of course).

Typically I think most news of food claims should be put in perspective, particularly in these post-Dietary Supplement Act days when almost anything goes. Remember oat bran and how it was going to take care of all your colesterol problems, and how just about every new product that came out had to include it?

On the other hand, people are going to believe what they want to believe, and if they are now saying chocolate could be good for my heart, then who am I to argue with them? ;)


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Chocolate as health food | 19 comments (18 topical, 1 editorial, 0 hidden)
Gah (none / 0) (#1)
by Pelorat on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 10:22:32 AM EST

Chocolate tofu??? Chocolate-flavored curdled soybean paste, mmm mmm. Yeah, that makes me want to rush out and get some. Bleah.

Re: Gah (none / 0) (#3)
by squigly on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 10:25:00 AM EST

Hey! a friend of mine made chocolate covered chicken. Although the chicken had such a mild flavour that it ended up as chocolate with a strange texture.

People who sig other people have nothing intelligent to say for themselves - anonimouse
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Re: Gah (none / 0) (#6)
by fluffy grue on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 01:06:15 PM EST

It's called molé, which I happen to like quite a bit. It's not supposed to be sweet, by the way.
"Is not a quine" is not a quine.
I have a master's degree in science!

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Re: Gah (none / 0) (#14)
by squigly on Sat Jul 01, 2000 at 02:14:04 PM EST

Not this stuff. It was a melted bar of chocolate with chicken dipped into it.

People who sig other people have nothing intelligent to say for themselves - anonimouse
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Re: Gah (1.00 / 1) (#15)
by fluffy grue on Sat Jul 01, 2000 at 08:03:54 PM EST

Eww. And yet it sounds strangely yummy.
"Is not a quine" is not a quine.
I have a master's degree in science!

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Re: Gah (none / 0) (#17)
by 31: on Sun Jul 02, 2000 at 05:39:32 PM EST

and just when a touch of class threatened to touch k5... you saved the day... food dipped in chocolate... was doing that last night... yumm

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Re: Gah (3.00 / 1) (#5)
by Photon Ghoul on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 11:42:20 AM EST

Why is curdled soybean paste any worse than curdled bovine mammary gland excretion?
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bovine excretions (none / 0) (#12)
by h2odragon on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 07:55:57 PM EST

At least yer milk based products had something to do with an animal... Soybeans are what food eats.

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much fluff, little content (4.50 / 2) (#4)
by Anonymous 242 on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 10:46:40 AM EST

I thought that this was a very interesting historical piece, but it offered very little in the way of content in demonstrating that chocolate does anything to improve one's health. All it offered was an overview that mentioned how various people have used chocolate in home-brewed remedies through out history. I could do the same thing with several different poisons and other substances that most likely do nothing improve one's health.

Not to mention the article failed to mention that the most severe problem with chocolate (aside from people who are alergic to it) is the amount of sugar that gets mixed in with the chocolate. Processed sugar has several different extremely bad effects when taken in the quantity that most people do while eating chocolate.

Now, I would be interested in sampling one of those Native American chocolate/pepper concoctions....

Re: much fluff, little content (4.00 / 1) (#11)
by hubie on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 05:57:01 PM EST

The specific information regarding what health benefits chocolate may provide (flavonoids and their effects on blood vessels, etc) are found in a link at the top of the article.

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Chocolate Tofu (4.00 / 1) (#7)
by Snomed on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 02:55:31 PM EST

at the end is a recipe for "Janet's Chocolate Medicinal Mousse Pie" which lists tofu as the main ingredient

Years ago I came across a recipe for Tofu Banana Cream Pie, which sounded so awful I had to try it. Amazingly it turned out to be pretty good.

Yeah, I know, it's not "technology and culture" but if chocolate if good for you this information demands immediate, widespread dissemination....

Tofu-bashing (3.50 / 2) (#8)
by pretzelgod on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 03:59:03 PM EST

Ah, the endless tofu bashing. Not surprisingly, very few people who pick on tofu have ever had it. Some of them have, but it wasn't done right. Tofu is best when prepared in food other than the normal American diet; that is, food mixed together, like a casserole. For example, my favorite tofu dish is an Italian tetrazzini.

Next time you eat Chinese, ask for garlic chicken with tofu instead of chicken. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Ever heard of the School of the Americas?

Re: Tofu-bashing (none / 0) (#9)
by Photon Ghoul on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 04:57:06 PM EST

Try *any* Tofu dish from a Thai resturaunt. mmmmmmmm
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Re: Tofu-bashing : Stinky Toufu (none / 0) (#13)
by dmkanter on Sat Jul 01, 2000 at 06:30:11 AM EST

Tofu Rocks!
Anyone ever had "stinky toufu" ? You either love it or hate it. You can smell it from blocks away. I happen to love it.

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Re: Tofu-bashing (none / 0) (#10)
by hubie on Fri Jun 30, 2000 at 05:41:57 PM EST

My experience with tofu is in Chinese food, and to me tofu serves as filler and texture where it takes on the flavor of the dish it is in. This is why I think it would be worth trying the chocolate mousse pie as it should provide a nice texture.

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Sleeper (5.00 / 1) (#16)
by mike on Sun Jul 02, 2000 at 03:31:31 PM EST

This reminds me of a rather old (70s I think) movie starring Woody Allen, Sleeper. In it, Woody as the main character gets cryogenically frozen and "woken up" 200 years later in a medical compound to partake as a leader in "the underground," a group that is determined to undermine the oppressive government led be a man whose name is appropriately "Leader" or something of that ilk. In the movie, besides the cool talking robots and ragtime jazz music in all of the action scenes (and the Orgasmotron), some things of notice are their food choices: banana creme pie and chocolate are deemed 'health foods' and grains and what we currently view as healthful were deadly.

With the advent of the Atkins' Diet where fried pork rinds are substituted for breads and fatty substances are ingested in place of flours, is it possible that the humourous observation in Sleeper about our food choices is true? Is there any real evidence that eating "junk food" in small amounts or in a prescribed manner could be life-enriching?
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The recipe is great! (none / 0) (#18)
by Anonymous 242 on Mon Jul 03, 2000 at 09:44:57 AM EST

I live in a house with four people who are lactose intollerant so at a soiree this weekend, I made up the tofu/chocolate pie, and it was indeed an awesomely delicious treat. Not only that, but it was incredibly simple to make. Blend the tofu, melt down the chocolate chips and blend into the tofu and pour into the pie shell. Let set in the fridge for an hour. Its not that expensive either. All the ingredients ended up costing about US $5.

One young woman said that it was the best pie she had ever tasted.

So, those of you up in hackles because tofu comes from soy beans, try to remember that chocolate does too....

(3.00 / 1) (#19)
by Tofra on Wed Jul 05, 2000 at 11:09:24 AM EST

Typical media promptness - it has been known for years that chocolate is rich in anti-oxidants (like red wine/grape juice, tea, coffee). In a puritan culture, anything enjoyable is generally seen as a vice, and the media delights in any 'news' that suggests that a vice might be healthy. Sure, the sugar and fat in chocolate can be unhealthy, but a little semi-sweet cocoa in a cup of coffee is mmm-mmm healthy.

And you anti-tofu people sound like my daughter (ewww! vegetables? yuck!). Former Japanese Prime Minister Taifu was called Tofu both because his name sounded sort of like tofu, and because he was so bland. Tofu has very little taste, and generally picks up whatever flavors it is combined with.

Eat a dead cow for Jesus and the American way, or take off your cultural blinders! Tofu is a healthy and ecologically sane food - the growth hormone meats and genetically modified textured vegetable protein in your fast food is not! As the world population swells to 10 billion over the next generation, meatspace resources will become scarce and tofu Will become more popular.

#. Tofra

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