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eGovernment advisor in the President's cabinet...

By brgomeistr in News
Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 05:43:52 AM EST
Tags: Politics (all tags)
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An article in The Washington Post today discussed plans for achieving full electronic government in the United States.

The new leadership structure would include an assistant to the president for electronic government who would have Cabinet rank; a public-private council on electronic government; an office of electronic government and information policy within the Office of Management and Budget headed by a chief information officer who would be appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate; and a congressional office of e-government.


"When you talk about the private sector, you think about ATM machines, you think about gas stations where you can go quickly to the pump and most people don't even get receipts nowadays. Basically, you have a digital economy but you still have an analog government."
As more and more people get online it only seems natural that the government will offer more online services. Of course, I'm sure you agree that an eGovernment program is a good idea, but I don't think its very likely under the current administration. If we could just get the darn voting machines right first....

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eGovernment advisor in the President's cabinet... | 13 comments (7 topical, 6 editorial, 0 hidden)
Improprieties? (2.71 / 7) (#3)
by Signal 11 on Wed Feb 21, 2001 at 08:54:26 PM EST

Well, if you thought Gore losing to Bush over "voting improprieties" in Florida was a problem, you just wait until we elect Natalie Portman our president with 492 million votes.

This is typical government - we have a problem, so instead of solving it, we throw technology at it. Anyone work at a company that did this - anyone at all? Of course we have - moving e-mail from that solaris box to a server farm running Exchange Server, upgrading to an "ERP" system, or synergizing your clicks and mortar blah blah... our government is pulling the same fast ones on us that our managers have been for years.

Well... I suppose, like management, the party who impliments this will blame the other party when it fails.. much like management..........


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Well, yes... (none / 0) (#7)
by _Quinn on Wed Feb 21, 2001 at 09:32:04 PM EST

   ... noted experts in the field (Peter Neumann, Rebecca Mercuri) oppose (http://www.notablesoftware.com/evote.html) electronic voting for the same reasons you do, but eVoting is the smallest and least significant part of eGovernment. When the Republic was designed, one of the primary concerns was the accountability of representatives; after all, they'd be leaving their home state (which could be too large to campaign throughout) and spending months in Washington, out of contact except the mails. (IIRC, this was one of the driving reasons for establishing a national post office.) The internet offers certain advantages in interacting with your representatives (and the bureacracy) that the mail and television and radio do not; and they should be taken advantage of.

   The article makes a good point, though: eGovernment will be most useful at a lower level of government than federal, because most citizens don't interact with the federal government regularly.

-_Quinn
Reality Maintenance Group, Silver City Construction Co., Ltd.
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We can't elect Natalie Portman (4.80 / 5) (#8)
by cp on Wed Feb 21, 2001 at 10:00:58 PM EST

Natalie Portman was born in Israel and therefore doesn't fulfill the Article II requirement of native birth. Rest assured, however, that osm is busy crafting a Twenty-Eighth Amendment to remedy this unfortunate situtation.

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That attitude (none / 0) (#12)
by Miniluv on Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 02:35:31 AM EST

That attitude is a major contributing factor to the failure of Modern Government. You accept, as a foregone conclusion, that anything implemented by government is bound to fail. Then again, you're also assuming that they will draw it all up themselves...which of course is the truth if you decide to wash your hands of the affair.

Technology isn't a cureall, but it's not a fuckall either. Technology is only as good as it's implementation, and that rather bland, detailless scenario you mentioned regarding email solutions proves that. There are times when Exchange is the right choice, and other times when "Solaris" despite it's inability to natively handle email, is the right choice. Stop trying to cloud the issue with meaningless apple to orange comparisons and start looking at how citizens can help government move in the right direction.

"Its like someone opened my mouth and stuck a fistful of herbs in it." - Tamio Kageyama, Iron Chef 'Battle Eggplant'
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Don't Be So Sure (3.25 / 4) (#9)
by the Epopt on Wed Feb 21, 2001 at 10:42:56 PM EST

I'm sure you agree that an eGovernment program is a good idea....
Why are you sure of that? You're wrong -- I don't agree at all.

I don't want efficient government. I don't want government at all, but if I have to have one, I want the most inefficient, gridlocked, paralyzed, useless waste of time possible. An "eGovernment" program would want to eLegislate, and eRegulate, and eTax, and eNforce, and ePpress.

No, eThanks.
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Name? (4.00 / 1) (#10)
by flieghund on Wed Feb 21, 2001 at 10:47:57 PM EST

What's this new position going to be called? If it ends up being "Secretary of eGovernment" (don't laugh, remember who's creating it), I think I'll puke.

Seriously, though, what would you call it?

Using a Macintosh is like picking your nose: everyone likes to do it, but no one will admit to it.

Or the slogan (3.00 / 1) (#13)
by axxeman on Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 04:10:10 AM EST

"We're the gov in .gov"

Being or not being married isn't going to stop bestiality or incest. --- FlightTest
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