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Register: IBM backs down on CPRM for hard drives

By kmself in News
Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 03:09:29 PM EST
Tags: Technology (all tags)

Andrew Orlowski of the Register continues his CPRM series with the news that IBM has withdrawn its CPRM on hard drives proposal.

CPRM (Copy Protection for Recordable Media) is a technology promoted by an industry consortium, alledgedly for removable media only, but with the technical capacity to work on fixed media, according to the Register.

The topic's been previously covered at K5 Feb 15 and Dec 12, 2000. It's also an issue the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has taken up.


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Register: IBM backs down on CPRM for hard drives | 15 comments (7 topical, 8 editorial, 0 hidden)
Hopefully people will follow big blue (3.25 / 4) (#1)
by unstable on Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 08:16:05 AM EST

I feel that this is a good move for IBM. CPRM hard drives are a "bad thing"(tm) in my opinion that would just complicate things for everyone. (ie on a CPRM HD how would you back up the copy protected data from a HD crash or disk corruption)

hopefully the other manufacturers will join IBM and drop this and not leave them standing out alone.

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They don't dare (3.66 / 3) (#12)
by ZanThrax on Fri Feb 23, 2001 at 12:09:21 AM EST

to leave IBM all alone as the only major manufacturer to offer CPRM-free drives. There have to be enough intelligent people in companies that large that they'd realise that the customers won't want CPRM drives, even if they were completely out of touch with all the screaming and yelling that the tech community has been doing over this.

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servers (4.00 / 2) (#13)
by Nyarlathotep on Fri Feb 23, 2001 at 03:44:04 AM EST

I don't think that it would directly impact the sales to clueless people, i.e. the OEM who are shipping CPRM drives will not advertise this fact, but ti will *seriously* impact the sales to tech people. Specifically, it will seriously hurt the sales of servers and high end systems.. you know where all the profit lies. These companies can not afford to have IBM be the only seller of server non-SCSI drives.

Actually, if everyone started shipping CPRM then the high end systems and non-SCSI servers might have all gone SCSI. Specifically, Gamers would have all gone SCSI to force CPRM compliant software to give up on CPRM for their system. Who knows SCSI might have been as cheap as ATA 5 years down the line.

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Never made sense to begin with (4.33 / 3) (#10)
by RandomPeon on Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 08:35:15 PM EST

I don't understand why company would advocate. You would ideally want a hard drive to be as "dumb" as possible. The more logic you introduce into a hard drive, the more potential you introduce for things to go wrong. Hard drives occassionally fail now, and "smart" hard drives would fail more often. (First law of software development: increased complexity = increased failure rate).

More logic in drives would possibly result in dramatically higher support/replacement costs. Of course, IANAHE (I Am Not A Hardware Engineer) but doesn't seem like a good idea. Have companies become so enamored with user-control* technology that they don't care when it hurts their own profits?

*Don't say "content-protection". Why do prolife people say "partial-birth abortion"? Why do prochoice people say "Late-term abortion"? "Intact dilation and extraction" is a synomym for these phrases, but it underemphasizes what they want you to hear. "User control" is more accurate than "content-proection", and it emphasizes what we want to people to hear.

Terminology (none / 0) (#15)
by ksandstr on Fri Feb 23, 2001 at 07:28:19 PM EST

The reg uses the term "copy control", which I think is pretty reasonable.

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Keen an eye on the bouncing ball (3.00 / 1) (#11)
by kmself on Thu Feb 22, 2001 at 11:25:04 PM EST

...but look around you all the same.

One thing to keep in mind is that something will come out of the Pheonix meeting. The question is what, exactly. If IBM's withdrawal is seen as a victory by digital rights people, but the final proposal is worse, we've lost.

The point is -- an impact has been made, but we have to remain dilligent. Whatever comes from the current meeting should be viewed with a critical and skeptical eye.

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News from Pheonix, and lack thereof (4.00 / 1) (#14)
by kmself on Fri Feb 23, 2001 at 05:38:13 PM EST

Orlowski of the Register continues his earlier story Will Phoenix keep your disks and OS CPRM-Free?

The question now is what is going to come out of Pheonix and how much user control there is over it. Read it.

The piece closes, though, with a more interesting observation. The CPRM story is one that went almost entirely past the trade press, straight into national and international media -- the SJ Merc, The Times, The Independent (I believe the UK calls these newspapers ;'). One franchise in which it's failed to make the slightest mention, however, is the CNet/ZDNet empire. Which raises the question "Who do you trust?".

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