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Beefeater's holocaust

By sudogeek in News
Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 09:16:03 AM EST
Tags: vCJD, BSE, mad cow (all tags)

A recent episode of Boston Legal featured a courtroom drama where a farmer filed suit in order to be able to test all of her herd for BSE1/vCJD, the agent which causes "mad cow" disease (otherwise known a bovine spongioform encephalopathy) in cows and variant Creutzfeld-Jacob disease in unfortunate beefeaters. In TV land, the farmer won and was allowed to test her herd and advertise the results.

In reality, the USDA prohibits testing of cattle for BSE (except by the USDA) and the FDA has refused to even allow applications by biotech/pharma companies for newer generation quick blood and tissue tests for BSE.


Nevertheless, these quick tests are here and are undergoing final stages of evaluation before being licensed in other countries including England and Ireland.

The British concern is understandable given that the last "outbreak" of BSE resulted in the slaughter of over 4.4 million cattle in 1989 and 168 human deaths (and still counting). Despite this, BSE is still cropping up in British and Northern Ireland herds. At the same time, an outbreak of similar scale was occurring in France which was covered up by the government. The number of French citizens who have died and are still dying of vCJD is unknown. Even Canada seems to be experiencing a resurgence of BSE cases with the 15th and 16th bovine cases this year being reported just in the last month.

In the US, as outlined above, FDA policies appear to be directed at protecting beef agribusiness concerns. Routine, limited testing of herds was not done until 2003. At that time, a whistleblower employee at a packing house went public that 'downer' cows were being used in the food supply. After initial denials were refuted by videotapes showing non-ambulatory cows being pushed into slaughter pens with a forklift, the FDA revealed that these cattle were indeed being used. Of course, Korea, Japan, and other countries banned US beef. The FDA now tests less than 1% of cattle in directed tests. The tests used do not yield results until days or weeks later, long after the cattle have entered the food chain. The main protective program the USDA has in place is inspectors in the slaughter house.

Failures of this inspection program are well documented including the 2008 Chino Westland/Hallmark Meat Company scandal. The Humane Society of the United States had demonstrated through undercover video that desperately ill cows at the Chino facility were forced into the slaughter box by such means as chains, electric shock, high intensity water and forklifts. This company had been a major supplier of meat products to the National School Lunch Program.2

Further, the inspection program is fundamentally flawed as most cattle slaughtered from feed lots are about 24 months of age while symptoms of BSE may not be apparent until 48 months of age. Cattle in this age group usually come from breeders and dairy operations.

The result of this shoddy, industry-friendly 'regulation' will be the same as the result of the lack of effective regulation of Wall Street. Here, if and when citizens demand testing, the US herd will be revealed to be full of BSE. Even in England, where a large cull of potentially infected animals was done, early results of these new quick blood tests has revealed that 1 in 4000 persons carries BSE/vCJD.

The meaning of these point prevalence figures is debatable. Given the long time lag between infection and disease, does this prevalence reflect the wholesale contamination of the beef supply for years up to this time? Will all of these individuals ultimately develop vCJD or only a small fraction? And, given the situation in the US, is there any reason any thinking person should continue to eat beef?


  1. Official FDA site. Additional site here (Warning: industry web site may contain slanted material.

  2. Quote from here.



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Do you eat beef?
o No, I'm an vegan. 17%
o No, I can't afford it. 0%
o Not after reading this. 4%
o Yes, I'm alrready demented. 78%

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Beefeater's holocaust | 40 comments (23 topical, 17 editorial, 0 hidden)
why? (3.00 / 2) (#1)
by Zombie Schrodingers Cat on Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 06:13:17 PM EST

sure they have funny uniforms, and their gin isn't the best, but I don't think genocide is the answer here.

i am a proud carnivore (1.00 / 3) (#14)
by circletimessquare on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 10:31:10 AM EST

but this kind of shit makes me piss my pants

solution: lobster is now cheaper than beef

i dare anyone to find a prion in the brains of lobster, nevermind one that can affect human brains

crisis averted, vegetarianism still help in low regard

nom nom nom


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

Buy lobster! (3.00 / 2) (#18)
by rusty on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 03:56:13 PM EST

It's a bloodbath out here. It's $2.00 a pound off the boat. Damn Icelandic banks.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
caveat: take a lipitor with each serving (none / 1) (#21)
by circletimessquare on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 04:12:11 PM EST

talk about cholesterol


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
Only from the butter (3.00 / 2) (#27)
by rusty on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 09:52:58 AM EST

Lobster meat itself is very low in cholesterol. Lower than, for example, the same amount of skinless roasted chicken. Way, way, way lower than eggs. Now, when you dunk it in butter, obviously that goes up. But with lobster this cheap you can try such wondrous things as lobster rolls and lobster chowder, where you can mix a bunch of meat with just a little fat.

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
oh look, its the goddamn maine chamber of commerce (3.00 / 5) (#28)
by circletimessquare on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 10:41:58 AM EST



The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
LOBSTER LOBSTER LOBSTER (3.00 / 5) (#30)
by rusty on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 02:52:08 PM EST

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Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
ABUSE REPORT FILED (none / 1) (#36)
by The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy on Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 09:53:33 AM EST



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I'm a pompous windbag, I take myself far too seriously, and I single-handedly messed up K5 by causing the fiction section to be created. --localroger

[ Parent ]
How about the mercury in the lobster? (none / 1) (#31)
by calumny on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 07:01:29 PM EST



[ Parent ]
HEY RUSTY (none / 0) (#32)
by circletimessquare on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 07:25:24 PM EST

WHAT DOES THE MAINE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SAY ABOUT THAT

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
Autism ain't all that bad. (none / 1) (#40)
by /dev/trash on Sat Feb 14, 2009 at 12:21:05 AM EST

Christ.

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[ Parent ]
We're treating the symptoms instead of the disease (3.00 / 4) (#16)
by givemegmail111 on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 12:30:02 PM EST

Hasn't anyone ever stopped to ask why the cows are so mad? Maybe there's a good reason. Maybe there's a simple compromise that will allow both sides to be happy without all this expensive testing.

A little extra grazing land can go a long way.

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McDonalds: i'm lovin' it
Start your day tastefully with a

DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS (none / 1) (#33)
by Ruston Rustov on Fri Nov 21, 2008 at 01:47:49 AM EST


I had had incurable open sores all over my feet for sixteen years. The doctors were powerless to do anything about it. I told my psychiatrist that they were psychosomatic Stigmata - the Stigmata are the wounds Jesus suffered when he was nailed to the cross. Three days later all my sores were gone. -- Michael Crawford
Maybe tomorrow. -- Michael Crawford
As soon as she has her first period, fuck your daughter. -- localroger

[ Parent ]
STOP EATING DUDE (none / 0) (#34)
by glowing tits on Sat Nov 22, 2008 at 03:34:15 AM EST


Hasn't anyone ever stopped to ask why the cows are so mad? Maybe there's a good reason.

Because we eat them and their children? Seems a legitimate reason to me... It would certainly drives us mad.

[ Parent ]

Hey thanks for this article (none / 0) (#17)
by ksandstr on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 03:55:14 PM EST

It reminded me that I needed to eat more cow anyway. Now that I've got money again, I can spend some on eating well.

CJD? It used to be a "sure thing" that every meat-eater had it and was gonna die from it in five years. This was about the same time as X-files was in season five, i.e. the mid-nineties I think? Anyway, as it turns out it wasn't, and probably still isn't.

Fin.

lol yeah (none / 1) (#19)
by Ruston Rustov on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 04:04:47 PM EST

like it used to be a "sure thing" that the earth was cooling! ror

I had had incurable open sores all over my feet for sixteen years. The doctors were powerless to do anything about it. I told my psychiatrist that they were psychosomatic Stigmata - the Stigmata are the wounds Jesus suffered when he was nailed to the cross. Three days later all my sores were gone. -- Michael Crawford
Maybe tomorrow. -- Michael Crawford
As soon as she has her first period, fuck your daughter. -- localroger

[ Parent ]
ps: reminds me how kuru is my favorite disease (3.00 / 2) (#22)
by circletimessquare on Wed Nov 19, 2008 at 04:40:48 PM EST

you wonder why the cultural bias against incest is so strong until you see the offspring

then you wonder why the cultural bias against cannibalism is so strong until you find out about digging up your ancestors, eating their brains, and then experiencing death by prion

kuru explains why zombies will never have equal rights too

BRAIIIINS

its just NOT the other white meat

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

Transmission

It is believed by some that the disease spread easily in the Fore people due to their cannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the deceased to prevent their loss to the ground.[6] The dysmorphism evident in the infection rates--it was more prevalent in women and children--is because while the men of the village ate small amounts of the flesh of the deceased, the women and children ate the majority of the body including the brain, where the disease particles are concentrated. There is also the strong possibility that it was passed on to women and children more easily because they took on the task of cleaning relatives after death and may have had open sores and cuts on their hands.[3]. With elimination of these practices Kuru rapidly declined among the Fore, but the main incubation period of the disease is 14 years and cases were reported with latencies of 40 years after consumption.



The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

This is covered well in a book called (none / 0) (#26)
by FreakWent on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 12:28:30 AM EST

"poison plate".  You should read it.

Right in the middle of my pastrami... (none / 0) (#29)
by claes on Thu Nov 20, 2008 at 01:04:35 PM EST

sandwich. Thanks.

Meat is a funny thing. I know it's unhealthy, and I really do think it's kind of immoral to support the livestock industry, but there doesn't seem to be any truly satisfying substitute.


baby (none / 0) (#35)
by rhiannon on Mon Nov 24, 2008 at 05:46:19 PM EST



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I continued to rebuff the advances... so many advances... of so many attractive women. -MC
[ Parent ]
Quit fearmongering. (none / 0) (#37)
by 7h3647h32in6 on Wed Nov 26, 2008 at 05:49:45 PM EST

The reason why the FDA isn't testing cattle for BSE is that there have only been 3 cases of BSE in the United States.[

BSE isn't a problem in U.S. cattle like it is in the UK.

As for the reason why Korean and Japan have banned U.S. beef, that has much more to do with protecting their native Kobe beef lines and hormones present in U.S. beef.

Your link sucks. (none / 0) (#38)
by sudogeek on Sat Nov 29, 2008 at 06:24:31 PM EST

And, so does your data. How can you know if there have been only three cases when the FDA doesn't do testing (that they reveal to consumers) and they prohibit producers from doing their own testing.

You're an arrogant, condescending, ignorant dipshit. - trhurler
[ Parent ]
Correction: wrong agency. (none / 0) (#39)
by sudogeek on Sat Nov 29, 2008 at 06:31:45 PM EST

It was the USDA which prohibited the testing.

You're an arrogant, condescending, ignorant dipshit. - trhurler
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