You can have
all the money in the world, of course, unless you keep misspelling my name :^).
Sorry about that. "Philipp" the name tends to have variable numbers of l's and p's -- I didn't read it carefully enough.
I don't understand your crushed cow head/McDonald's Zoo argument, so I won't even try to address that one. But...
The same is true for OSDN's kuro5hin. Visitors to the site will get the impression that OSDN is a great
company, because they do good things like kuro5hin. (I know, the details of the OSDN-kuro5hin deal are
not that simple, but, honestly, who cares?)
You have an oddly simplistic view of the world. No, OSDN is not supporting K5 as a charitable work. They intend to make money by selling ads for more then they pay us for them. This is called being a business, and is what the majority of people in a capitalist society spend eight hours of their day doing five days each week. K5, on the other hand, intends to make money by providing a place for people to talk about what interests them, and selling space in that medium for companies to promote their products. I can't believe I'm sitting here explaining how for-profit media works, but you seem to have a slippery grasp on the concept.
I personally believe that having a place where (more or less) like-minded people can talk to each other is a good thing, overall. I think my life would be poorer (in terms of quality, not money) without it. So, I have no personal qualms about making money by doing this. I don't think advertising is Evil, however, as you and some others seem to. Your reasons for thinking this are still very murky to me, so I have a hard time arguing against them.
In case of kuro5hin this gets harder. I guess I find hardly anybody who thinks that applying for public funds
is a good idea. The issue of subscription fees or donations was presented by many, but never really
followed. That used to be the standard way to fund non-profits like kuro5hin.
Kuro5hin.org is a for-profit company. In all other media in the US, subscriptions fees are a virtually negligible portion of overall income. NPR (National Public Radio) is supported by donations, which are not the same as subscriptions, as you get the same broadcasts for free if you don't donate. NPR is also funded quite a lot by individual companies, which usually are thanked on-air for their donations. It's not quite advertising, but it's damn close. Broadcast TV is entirely funded by advertising, and all other commercial media is funded by some mix which is dominated by advertising. So, I have no idea what media were ever funded by this "standard way" you imagine.
But I want to make the point that the
money from OSDN is not free money. You paying for it by selling your reputation (and the reputation of
kuro5hin contributers) to OSDN.
This seems to be your main point, and finally, it isn't very interesting. Of course it's not free money. See those ads? Those are what they pay me for. That space up there. I don't think anyone (except maybe you) was under the impression that OSDN just backed the truck up and dumped a bunch of cash into my living room.
And yes, the reputation of the site and it's contributors is exactly what we're selling. OSDN is selling it to the advertisers, in the form of convincing them that K5 is a good place to run their ads. That is, we have smart people who are likely to be interested in certain kinds of products. Again, I fail to see what's wrong with this.
Basically, if you want to be mad at a company, why aren't you talking about Gap (sweatshops), Nike (sheatshops), Phillip Morris (products that kill you), or any of the million or so polluters, exploiters, and murderers that operate under the banner of the capitalist free market? Why are we the bad guys, for showing you some blinking pixels?
By the way, if you're still upset, and you want to subscribe to K5, first get a copy of Junkbuster, set it up and tell it to block k5ads.osdn.com. Then paypal me $25 bucks, and we'll call it even.
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