No, you do. I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.
You are. The wall you erected between yourself and my intelligent argumentation. Tear it down!
I know you think that. I said you are wrong, and gave evidence. Can you give evidence?
I don't quite understand what kind of evidence are you looking for here. Aside from tearing the whole society's synapses out and showing you a working diagram where the society sees people thinking freer while doing drugs, and then doesn't like it (shown in red), and busts them down. Do you expect a poll where a number of politicians and high-ranking police officers are questioned and they say, well, yeah, people think too much on drugs.. that's why we outlawed 'em.
Here's the thing: when I started smoking weed, at first I could also describe it as "being unable to think." There are a few things combined here, one of them is that you're so overcome with exciting sensory fireworks you don't *want* to think. You've entered a different mode of thinking and feeling and at first you're like a child: rather than sit down and read Shopenhauer, you're out there playing with this new world. Once you get to know it better, you return to mature cognitive ways. Another thing is that it's sort of like riding a bike for the first time - you ride for a few meters than you fall down, and you think to yourself "Why, what an inferior way to travel!". Yet another consideration is that what the concept of thought in your mind is limited to some usual sequential practical thought patterns, and once you get to haphazard (especially at first) and jumpy thoughts on weed, you naturally say "this is not thinking, this is something else". But, in our context, it's of course still thinking, if only a different "kind" of thinking.
You don't know what "mitigate" means.
Sorry, my mistake.. I only have a lame excuse that english is not my first language, but in 7 years here it's wearing thin ;-).
No, you have a vague idea of how the mind works. Psychedelic is not a loose term.
So you know how the mind works? Riddle me this, then: if all our actions are the result of nature and nurture, what is free will? A random generator that says "well, nature and nurture are undecided on this issue, so I'll do a random thing". Is our mind a complex calculator that weighs the odds and if it is free, it is only free to do what it was programmed to do, aside from occasional hardware glitch. If that is so, what's the point of our argument or k5? Do provide ample proof.
Psychedelics is a loose term because Psychosis is a loose term. Psychosis is a loose term because it's defined as "different from normal" but the concept of being normal is itself loose. So it's sort of like saying "I know how many tables are in that room - there's exactly two times less of them than in that other room. - How many are in the other room? - I'm not sure." That's what I call loose.
But a couple of good sites include: erowid and the lycaeum, if you've never been, you should go. Lots of information, lots of points of view (experience reports).
I did spend many a sleepless night reading lycaeum and (especially) erowid. Great sites, no argument here. I don't see, though, why you took "mutate our society" to be a negative comment. Too many space alien movies you've seen? Hey, if it weren't for mutation, we wouldn't be here. Nothing except for one-celled stupid buggers would be. If that! Mutation is a great thing, and that's exactly the point - we all have this weakness to different extent, that says "don't go there - you may lose what you already have now". This instinct is particularly strong in people who gained much withoud actually *doing* much, i.e. someone like GWB, because you start thinking.. I have all this stuff right now right here in this environment, but if it were to change, would I still make a lucky roll? Fuck change. So, there's two scales, one is for people who can adapt well and other for their wealth, with two extremes - one is a person who adapts poorly and is wealthy (probably one born into elite, never pushed himself to try hard for anything) - he's going to hate change instinctively. As a social force, these people automatically dislike psychedelics (unless they personally like to trip).
Go, learn. I tire of this conversation.
Easy now, big fella. Should I dance a happy little dance or perhaps swallow a sabre? Or tell jokes balancing on a trapeze? I find this complaint a bit odd - It ain't my job to work as your entertainer. This is a forum where people come to read posts they find interesting - nobody's holding a gun to your head "better read Rainy's posts or else.. lead is yummy today, eat a bellyfull!". So, stop whining and either converse politely or not at all.
Rainy "Collect all zero" Day
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