I can't tell if this comment is intended to start a flame war or not... I've had straight edge friends, and they used to sound exactly like this. Then of course they tried smoking pot, realized it wasn't the hideous evil it had been made out to be, and learned the true meaning of moderation. They're clean by choice now, but indulge on occasion.
>Firstly, I hate techno. Vehemently. Electronic music is all garbage (with the exception of the stuff that's done by real musicians- KMFDM and Pig, for example). <
I've never heard pig, but I can't say I blame you. Most "techno" released to the mainstream is repetitve house junk. Try something with a little more funk / soul / Jazz, like LTJ Bukem, DJ Krush, or Microbe (plug for a friend). Jungle, Drum 'n Base, and two-step branch might be more musically rich than you expect, though if you are in a KMFDM mood Gabber might be more appropriate.
Still, though, no government policy should be made based around the percieved quality of the art... You seem to grasp this.
>Mostly, though, I hate the drug culture associated with it.<
But we loooove you! lol. Actually nobody I know in the scene has done any drugs in the past two years... Well, one , but anyway it isn't as pervasive as you might think.
I'm sure you will get dozens of responses to this post, but if you do respond... Why do you hate the rave "drug culture"? Drugs themselves can be seen as a bad thing, and there is ample evidence both personal and researched of huge negative effects of unfettered and irresponsible drug use. But the positive culture is why we keep going to raves long after we figure out we don't need drugs. Why do you hate the culture?
>I follow the straightedge lifestyle, which dictates moderation and abstinence<
As another poster pointed out, abstinence is not a form of moderation.
>Nobody can deny that drugs and rave culture are inexorably linked.<
Sure, I'll deny it. Happy Hardcore is, i believe, they type of rave you are looking for. It is an incredible over saccarined, disgustingly happy type of J-Poppy music that is strangely unenjoyable when on any drugs...
But more to the point, nobody can deny that inflexibility and violence are linked, or that Soccer and riots are linked, or that business trips and infidelity are linked. But we don't make inflexibility, Soccer, and business trips illegal. The government needs to keep to banning the particular actions which are deemed necessary to the functioning of the society, not the social conditions that may eventually lead to such actions.
>Furthermore, I think it's possible to have raves without drugs- it simply requires cooperation on the part of everyone involved.<
It is actually getting to be quite common, judging by the complaints I've recieved :).
>Raves could operate similarly- if the promoters want a drug-free event and advertise this, then it will be a drug-free event, if the attendees are really so committed to their scene and the music that they're willing to give up their drugs for a night. <
Most ravers are very aware and want very much for places to stay open. Many try to bring candy and water in to help out their fellow ravers, and many more stay after to help clean up. I'm sorry if you can't see this, but it really is about the community. And yes, drugs are a way into the community by losing your inhibitions. You'll notice that alcohol is completely unavailable in most raves... Alcohol brings an angry, foolish vibe to the proceedings that just isn't what the scene is about.
And the clubs that play electronic music just don't have any drugs. I'm sorry to tell you, but the club owners ARE very aware that the full force of the law can be brought down upon them, and the goers generally frown upon trying to buy / sell drugs inside.
>You ravers will agree that these are the kind of people that you don't want in your scene.<
What the ones that just want to get fried? They can do that at home. They do do that at home. You really don't need to go to raves to get drugs. I'm sure if you asked the people that you are close to, at least two people would know someone that could help you. The people that are more interested in just getting fried / baked / whatevered tend to congregate, and can easily find dozens of potential hookups in one night of calling.
I've seen estimates as high as 10% of america gets stoned once a month. That means 1 out of every 10 people have some sort of supply chain, and many more know people who are part of that chain but don't indulge. It's everywhere, please try to get over the perception that this is unusual. Stopping raves doesn't stop the supply chain.
>Personally, I support this, but logically, I cannot, because it's exclusionary and unfair. <
Ah, thank you for recognizing that personal preferences shouldn't dictate policy.
>I think legislation that aims to eliminate drugs from raves is noble and necessary, but this bill is not the legislation that will safely accomplish this.<
And yet we don't attempt to remove cocane from the boardroom? Or drugs from schools? Once you try any drug you realize just how overhyped they are. They are not the savior of mankind nor are they the work of the devil. Eliminating drugs from raves needs to be by the choice of the promoter and the people attending, not by shutting down the raves. Otherwise they will go back underground without security, a safe location, weapons checks, adequate water, and available medical personnel.
Sigh... this issue has dominated our culture for the past fifty years... Isn't it about time we find something else to pass blatantly unconstitutional laws about?
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