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The proper way of cooking the goat head

By marcos in Op-Ed
Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 01:51:28 AM EST
Tags: Food (all tags)
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In the end scene of the game Doom 2, there is a giant goat head hanging on the wall which you have to destroy to finish the game. If Doom 2 had had a Nigerian man as the hero, you would never have finished that game, because after killing the goat, he would have proceeded to make a delicous and peppery meal out of the goat head, and the resulting running stomach would have sent him running for the next toilet, and not the end of the game.

Yes, we love the goat head in Nigeria.


The head of the goat has traditionally been discarded, and not used in meals by most ethnic groups in Nigeria. But relatively recently, the traditional dish of the Igbo people of southern Nigeria, made of the goat skull cracked into small pieces, and cooked in its brains has captured the hearts and stomachs of the Nigerians, and can now be found in most restaurants in the country.

It may sound a bit put offish, and it is not a dish that appeals to everybody, since some people don't fancy finding the eyes, ears or tongues of the animal in their dish. And also, it usually causes terrible diahrea in everybody who eats it for the first time, since a laxative leaf is part of the mixture.

But it is not only good looking once prepared, it also tastes very good. It looks like small pieces of meat with lots of bone lying in a thick stew in a small wooden mortar. It has a very distinct, strong and spicy taste, and is eaten with the fingers.

Getting the ingredients

You will of course need a goat head. Samuel Chuks has some advice for us:


(Some helpful hints for the translation: Naija = Nigerian; Na = is; No = know; Boku = are in sizeable number; Oyibo = white person)


"Isi ewu (Goat Head) boku boku for Yankee Doodle landieo. If you come
Alabama, Big Man Size goat na only $30 because Naija no plenty here. If
you go Atlanta, Georgia, Man Size goat na from $90-$150. You no say i
live for Atlanta for about 7years. When you go the farm to buy goat
early in the morning like 6 am., Naija don boku dey fight for goat. The
farmer, one oyibo man just do small economics for hin head say, since
Naija boku wey want goat, and na only me dey sell, price of goat just
jump up.

Adey, this is no kidding time, I am dead serious, Goat boku, for
everywhere here.

Wherever there is a Naija, there must be Goat."

In your hometown, you will probably need to go through another process to get the head of the goat. Most farms that have got goats will probably be able to sell you the head of the goat. Maybe you can get it for free, since it is sometimes thrown away.

You will also need the following:


3 fresh chilli pepper
8 fresh tomatoes
2 onions
1 clove garlic
I teaspoon peppersoup seasoning
3 tbs. lemon juice
4 tbs. tomato puree
200 ml/7floz palm-oil
1 lt/2pints stock or water
1 onion (sliced)
Chopped wild mint
Salt

Palm oil may be a bit difficult to get. Palm oil is the red, acrid tasting and viscuous oil extracted from the nuts of the palm tree. No, not the coconuts, they only grow on coconut palms. The real palm trees, which look much like the coconut palm, but have got thicker and vertically rising stems, have got a large number of small red nuts with a very oily skin and small hard kernel inside the nut. Palm oil is retrieved by mashing the oily skin to a pulp, and collecting the oil that flows from the skin.

You can get this at any African shop, and I am sure that there is one near your home. Ask the next African you meet, and he might know.

Preparation

If the goathead you get is still hairy, you will need to place it over an open fire and singe it. You then scrape off the hairs, and continue to singe it. In the end, you should end up with a blackened and hairless goat head. Note, this process will cause a terrible stink. Burning goat hair smells very strongly and the odour sticks around long, so it is better done outside.

Wash the head thoroughly to remove the residue ash. Chop the head into small pieces with an axe. Alternatively, you can use a wooden mortar to crush it. Depending on your taste, you can either discard the brains, or lay it by the side to use in the stew.

After the pieces of meat are gathered together in a pot, pour in the lemon juice, and let it soak in for 15 minutes. Grind the onions, garlic, chillies and tomatoes, sliced onions, chillies, stock and seasonings in, and place everything together in large pot filled with water. Cook for 45 minutes. Stir it frequently. Add the ground chillies, tomatoes, onions, palm-oil and wild mint. Bring to boil and allow it simmer gently for 30-40 minutes until the meat is tender

Serving

The meal is traditionally served in a small mortar made of wood. For reasons of economy probably, the bottom of the mortar is as thick as the scooped out hollow part. If you do not have this mortar, a bowl will also do.

The meal is eaten with the fingers, each piece of meat taken out at random, examined to make sure it is nothing gross like an eye or the ear, and then chewed and swallowed.

Additional information

If you bite into the eye of the goat, liquid usually squirts out. So be careful with that. Also, the laxative leaf called Nton Okwu has been left out of the ingredient list. Even though it adds an interesting and pleasing taste, the after effects do not make it worth the trouble. But if you insist on adding this ingredient, go to your local African shop and you might find it.

Conclusion

It can take half a day to get everything put together and done, and I find that it is a lot easier to simply go out to an African restaurant and ask for "Isi Ewu" or "Goat Head". I would advice you to do the same, and not bother cooking it yourself, unless you really felt the need to do so.

Be a bit adventurous. Go on, try some goat head.

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The proper way of cooking the goat head | 126 comments (107 topical, 19 editorial, 0 hidden)
Would this work with deer as well? (4.42 / 7) (#1)
by pyramid termite on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 12:52:11 PM EST

We have a lot more deer where I live and the thought of all that meat being wasted on someone's garage or den concerns me.

On the Internet, anyone can accuse you of being a dog.
try head cheese. [nt] (5.00 / 1) (#22)
by the77x42 on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 04:07:03 PM EST




"We're not here to educate. We're here to point and laugh." - creature
"You have some pretty stupid ideas." - indubitable ‮

[ Parent ]
sheep head (4.50 / 8) (#2)
by asad on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 12:53:41 PM EST

is traditional in the west of iran where I grew up, I'll see if I can dig up how they cooked it.

Would that be 'rogan gosht'? (5.00 / 3) (#60)
by Akshay on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 06:41:07 AM EST

Didn't know it was goat head.

(Although, admittedly, I could be confusing between Persian, Baluchi, Kashmiri and Pushto cuisines. Not to mention Mughalai)

[ Parent ]

not that I have heard (5.00 / 3) (#73)
by asad on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 11:54:08 AM EST

I've always heard it called "kaleh pacheh", basically meaning head and feet, since you usually cook the head alongside the feet. Could be a Kashmiri or eastern Iran dish, I am only upto date on the western and central iran cooking ;)

[ Parent ]
Western Iranian... (none / 0) (#106)
by Akshay on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 03:34:03 AM EST

Sanandaj and the places closeby? Been there, and quite honestly, loved the food there. Can't remember any names though, but there was this roadside restaurant between Sanandaj and Tehran, where they used to serve some excellent dinner for us.

Okay, that didn't add much to the discussion except for an empty traveller's boast; anyway, those were the days! :-D

[ Parent ]

hehe this far down the thread it doesn't matter (none / 0) (#118)
by asad on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 06:55:59 PM EST

you know I probably have eaten at that road stop :) since I used to live in kermanshah and have been to sanandaj many a time. There's another kick ass restaurant after asadabad on the way from kermanshah to tehran, my dad actually knows the third generation owners, they still cook the same 3-4 different meals that they have for the past few decades and it's still amazing.

[ Parent ]
No.. (none / 0) (#96)
by stormie on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 07:48:09 PM EST

"gosht" means lamb. Or sheep. Or something of that species.

[ Parent ]
Lamb or sheep but not goat? (none / 0) (#107)
by Akshay on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 03:35:07 AM EST

I see what you mean. Thanks!

[ Parent ]
not in farsi (none / 0) (#122)
by asad on Thu Jun 12, 2003 at 04:46:08 PM EST

in farsi gosht simply means meat not specific to lamb or sheep.

[ Parent ]
I laughed, I cried, I threw up. (5.00 / 3) (#4)
by gilrain on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 01:23:37 PM EST

So fascinating, and yet so very disturbing. I have to admit that I would definitely try it at least once. I would, however, under no condition eat an eyeball.

Eyeballs (3.40 / 5) (#6)
by The Writer on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 01:32:13 PM EST

I like eating eyeballs... it's like biting into a small grape. (Or not-so-small grape, depending on where the eyeball came from.) I used to love eating fish eyeballs, esp. if the fish was fried. Crunchy eyeball, mmmmm...

Civilised Westerners may now cringe and wring their hands.

[ Parent ]

Fried fish eyeball. (5.00 / 2) (#13)
by tkatchev on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 02:45:01 PM EST

Not that good. In fact, it is no more tasty than eating a very small, round pebble.

   -- Signed, Lev Andropoff, cosmonaut.
[ Parent ]

Depends (3.40 / 5) (#17)
by The Writer on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 03:09:12 PM EST

... on how fried it is. (No kidding. :-P) If it's gently browned, as opposed to deep fried, then it will be crunchy and still slightly soft and delicate. But I know what you mean --- fry it too much and the eyeball turns into a stony pebble, which will really do good things to your enamel. Ouch.

[ Parent ]

GREETINGS (4.39 / 43) (#5)
by Donblas on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 01:31:21 PM EST

ATTN:THE HEAD CHEF/C.E.O.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am CHEF Julius Ojeh Iwegbu, Head Stuart of the Nigeria Hilton Hotel. I have urgent and very confidential culinary proposition for you.

On June 6, 2002, a FOREIGN consultant/farmer with the Nigerian National Agricultural Corporation, Mr. Barry Kelly slaughtered a goat. It's head, valued at $25,000,000,000.00 (TWENTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS) is in my freezer.

Upon discovering it, I sent a routine notification to his forwarding address but got no reply. After a few days, we sent a reminder and finwelly we discovered from his contract employers, the Nigerian National Agricultural Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from a tragic goatherding accident.

On further investigation, I found out that he died without making a WILL, and all attempts to trace his next of kin were fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any kin or relations in all his official documents, including his goat head paperwork in my Freezer. The goat head is still sitting in my Freezer and the meat is being aged. No one will ever come forward to claim it.

According to Nigerian Law, at the expiration of 12 (twelve) months, the goat head will rever to the ownership of the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim it.

Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a Foreigner to stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly.

This is simple. I will like you to provide immediately your full names and address os that the Attorney will prepare the necessary documents, herbs, spaces, and affadavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin. We shall employ the service of an Attorney for drafting and notarization of the WILL and to obtain the necessary documents and letter of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.

A refrigerator in any part of the world, which you will provide, will then faciliate the transfer of this goat head to you as beneficiary/next of kin. The head will be put into your refrigerator for us to share in the ratio of 70% for me and 25% for you. 5% will be for settling expenses on my part and yours, also for sauce when the goat head arrive your country.

There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this  transaction will be done by the Attorney and my position as the Head Chef guarantees the
successful execution of this transaction. If you are interested, please reply immediately via the private email address below.

Upon your response, I shall then provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you understand the transaction.
Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest
assured that this transaction would be most profitable and delicious for both of us because I shall require your assistance to ingest my share in your country. Awaiting your urgent reply. Via the following email addresses:bayet@hknetmail.com,bayet1@hknetmail.com,bayet3@hknetmail.com.

Thanks and regards.
CHEF Julius Ojeh Iwegbu.

Alright, I give up (4.55 / 9) (#11)
by marcos on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 02:38:58 PM EST

It was funny. And it finished up with "Chef". But all the same, I'm tired of all these 419 spoof letters everytime someone mentions Nigeria. Get over it, we don't mention "Enlarge your penis" everytime someone mentions America.

[ Parent ]
But you have to admit.. (5.00 / 4) (#28)
by Yaroslav The Wise on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 04:30:14 PM EST

..This was damn hilarious! I laughed out loud because I still get these types of letters in my inbox.

[ Parent ]
On a more serious note . . . (5.00 / 5) (#34)
by Donblas on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 05:07:39 PM EST

. . . it appears the Nigerian government, to put it charitably, is implicated in these schemes, and thus less than helpful to international law enforcement wrt nailing the perps.

Perhaps that's why in a word association game, 419 pops into people's heads after Nigeria.

[ Parent ]

Very funny (4.33 / 6) (#54)
by marcos on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 01:03:56 AM EST

I can assure you that the Nigerian govt is not implicated in these schemes. In Nigeria, one can simply do what one wants. There is no government control or organization. The thought of the govt making that kind of organized and thought through movement to scam the west is ridiculous.

Back in the day, I knew a few people who did this with letters. It was mostly 20 year olds and the like with no job and too much time on their hands looking to strike gold.

The real 419 people operate internally, and they usuually come visit you telling you some wild story. Unfortunately, they are much more believeable, since they come with men dressed as police, riding expensive cars, or sometimes offficial looking cars.

Compared to the money a govt official can get by being corrupt in his official duties, the money a 419 scammer makes is peanuts. Rest assured that the govt is not part of the scam.

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Thanks. (4.00 / 4) (#66)
by Donblas on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 09:04:53 AM EST

I appreciate your perspective into the situation.

[ Parent ]
Utterly hilarious. (5.00 / 3) (#12)
by tkatchev on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 02:43:36 PM EST

Oh, how it brings back the wonderful memories of slashdot of yesteryore and of my wasted youth!

   -- Signed, Lev Andropoff, cosmonaut.
[ Parent ]

Excellent and informative article, thank you. (4.42 / 7) (#10)
by mcc on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 02:27:39 PM EST

I now eagerly await your follow-up article on how to properly cook the disembodied screaming head of John Romero.

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Just one clove of garlic... (5.00 / 4) (#20)
by the on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 03:52:12 PM EST

...for an entire goat head! Something must be wrong here.

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It is incredibly small (5.00 / 3) (#21)
by marcos on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 03:55:14 PM EST

Very little flesh on a goats head actually, and it is mostly skin.

[ Parent ]
Fucking Sick (1.27 / 11) (#25)
by The Devil on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 04:17:09 PM EST

You people should be all lined up and shot. This just ruined my lunch.

:( ~~~~ ~~~ ~~~@@#@#$BLECH

How do you think I feel (4.50 / 8) (#26)
by marcos on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 04:22:12 PM EST

When I see people eating pork. All that wobbly disgusting fat, and the maggots that live just below the skin. Pork is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen.

And talk about pig feet. All those Americans that eat nasty ass pig feet. Like Chris Rock said, they actually choose between the nasty assed pig feet. Oh not that one, the other one. The one with the nail. The athletes foot one.

In other words, tolerate new and different things, even though they might not be appealing to you.

[ Parent ]

Good point but... no. (2.33 / 3) (#27)
by The Devil on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 04:26:08 PM EST

I'm still not eating this pizza I ordered. The salami reminds me of the goat ears!!!!

[ Parent ]
at the end of doom2 (4.33 / 6) (#30)
by noogie on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 04:44:59 PM EST

if you noclip through the wall theres this geeky guys head on a stick.


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Its John Romero (5.00 / 3) (#80)
by phraggle on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 01:28:52 PM EST

Its John Romero. If you play the wakeup sound backwards, it says "To win the game you must kill me, John Romero".

Of course, in Freedoom, its RMS..

[ Parent ]

goat brain is so passe (4.90 / 11) (#35)
by circletimessquare on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 05:47:21 PM EST

if you really want to jump on the culinary bandwagon of impressive food experience, try human brain, best served somewhat putrid! ;-)

MMMMMMMMM kuru!

The kuru epidemic reached its height in the 1960's (Lindenbaum, 1979). Between 1957 and 1968, over 1,100 of the South Fore died from kuru (Lindenbaum, 1979). The vast majority of victims among the South Fore were women. In fact, eight times more women than men contracted the disease (Lindenbaum, 1979). It later affected small children and the elderly at a high rate as well. This is to be expected, since women were the prime participants in mortuary cannibalism (Lindenbaum, 1979). It is currently believed that kuru was transmitted among the South Fore through participation in such cannibalism. Upon the death of an individual, the maternal kin were in charge of the dismemberment of the corpse (Lindenbaum, 1979). The women would remove the arms and feet, strip the limbs of muscle, remove the brains, and cut open the chest in order to remove internal organs (Lindenbaum, 1979). Lindenbaum (1979) states that kuru victims were highly regarded as sources of food, because the layer of fat on victims who died quickly resembled pork. Women also were known to feed morsels such as human brains and various parts of organs to their children and the elderly (Lindenbaum, 1979).

so what do we learn to day kiddies? DON'T EAT BRAINS. PRIONS DO JUMP SPECIES. so is nigeria to be the next epicenter of mad cow disease paranoia? enjoy your goat's head! ;-P

Gadjusek studied kuru, and he found the condition of kuru victims to be an upsetting sight. He explains, "...to see them, however, regularly progress to neurological degeneration in three to six months (usually three) and to death is another matter and cannot be shrugged off" (Gadjusek, 1996:10). Gadjusek (1973) reported three main stages in the progression of symptoms. The first stage is called the ambulant stage, and it includes unsteadiness of stance, gait, voice, hands, and eyes; deterioration of speech; tremor; shivering; in- coordination in lower extremities that moves slowly upward; and dysarthria (slurring of speech) (Gadjusek, 1973). The second stage is also known as the sedentary stage, and Gadjusek (1973) defines it with the following symptoms: patient can no longer walk without support, more severe tremors and ataxia (loss of coordination of the muscles), shock-like muscle jerks, emotional lability, outbursts of laughter, depression, and mental slowing (it is important to note that muscle degeneration has not occurred in this stage, and tendon reflexes are usually still normal) (Gadjusek, 1973). The third stage is the terminal stage, which is marked by the patient's inability to sit up without support; more severe ataxia (loss of muscle coordination), tremor, and dysarthria (slurring of speech); urinary and faecal incontinence; difficulty swallowing (dysphagia); and deep ulcerations appear (Gadjusek, 1973). Cerebellar dysfunction is the cause of these conditions. Symptoms are generally common among prion diseases, as a comparison with Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease will demonstrate.

http://www.as.ua.edu/ant/bindon/ant570/Papers/McGrath/McGrath.htm

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

Great point (5.00 / 3) (#41)
by LairBob on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 07:04:15 PM EST

Given the recent premise that SARS may have been communicated by eating civets, and the news today that monkeypox may have crossed from Gambian pouched rats through domesticated prairie dogs to humans, this is no small concern.

Of course, that doesn't automatically condemn an entire culture's gastronomy any more than repeated salmonella outbreaks condemns America's love of scrambled eggs for breakfast, or repeated E. coli condemns our love of hamburgers, but it's definitely a valid insight.

[ Parent ]
well (4.66 / 3) (#42)
by circletimessquare on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 07:49:00 PM EST

we have been eating goats forever, across all cultures

but civet cat eating and the human-prairie dog-gambian pouched rat bermuda triangle are definitely more novel developments

and i am certain brain tissue has made it's way into our diets for a long time... perhaps with less frequency as of late, but regardless, prions are some scary shit

there is just nothing like species-jumping prions to scare the fuck out of you... if you want more heebie jeebies, especially if you live in the midwest of the usa/ canada, follow this link:

http://scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00028CB6-F6 0A-1EBB-BDC0809EC588EEDF

In fact, CWD appears to have originated from scrapie. Richard E. Race of the National Institutes of Health Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Hamilton, Mont., conducted test tube studies that revealed no distinction between the malformed PrP of scrapie sheep and CWD cervids. Consistent with this discovery, Amir Hamir of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Animal Disease Center in Ames, Iowa, found no difference in the appearance of brain samples from elk with CWD and elk experimentally infected with scrapie. (BSE also probably arose from scrapie, after cows ate feed derived from infected sheep.)

um, folks of the world? can i make a desperate appeal to you? unless you are starving or poor, can we lay off the herbivore brain tissue please? i don't care what it tastes like, we don't need prions jumping species and experimenting with new and novel efforts at turning our brains into swiss cheese... no headcheese jokes implied at all ;-(

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Wow! (2.12 / 8) (#39)
by rmg on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 06:17:53 PM EST

Can you imagine a beowulf cluster of these things?

But seriously, pretty cool article. +1 from me. I may have to check out the local African resturants...



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Public service announcement (5.00 / 7) (#56)
by Richard Stallman on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 02:18:59 AM EST

For the love of god, "Beowulf cluster of whatever" is not funny anymore.

[ Parent ]
Next on Iron Chef... (4.00 / 4) (#40)
by GavalinB on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 06:44:38 PM EST

The Proper Preparation of Fish Heads. Fascinating stuff about the goat head and its place in Nigerian cuisine. +1!
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its called "mannish water" here (4.16 / 6) (#43)
by JahToasted on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 07:59:07 PM EST

in Jamaica (check google) or just simply goat head stew. Its quite likely that the tradition came here from Nigeria back in the days of slavery. Its not exactly a common dish, but it is occasionally cooked at barbeques, etc. They say it makes you more verile (of course "they" say peanuts make you more verile too).

I tried it once. It didn't give me the shits, and it tastes like just about any other stew. It is kinda weird having all the skull fragments there sitting at the bottom when you're finished though.

I'm not sure if it was the mannish water or the very hot woman beside me, but I did feel more verile on the drive home.

Now, for those of you that think eating goat brains is disgusting, here is a little bit of information that I found out about mannish water later. The reason they say it makes you more virile? Yup. the sometimes throw the goat penis in with it. I'm not sure if they did with the stuff I ate or not. Since I didn't find out about that part until a few months afterward, explosive vomitting seemed kinda pointless. But I'm sure they didn't put it in the stuff I ate. I hope. Oh well you eat goat brains and you take your chances I guess...
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interesting (3.00 / 2) (#44)
by livus on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 08:04:51 PM EST

Is there any non-laxative substitute for Nton Okwu? I mean, what sort of herb does it taste like?

I love to eat goat, and I'd seriously consider making this if there is a spare head lying around. I must admit I'd go through it and pick out things like eyeballs before I served it, though.

Come to think of it I wonder if substituting goat chops for goat head would produce something quite good?

I'm trying to think of a comparable dish over here that went from unpopular/recional to "cool" in such a short time...

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goat meat (5.00 / 1) (#47)
by gnd54 on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 08:45:47 PM EST

tastes a bit like venison -- kind of gamey. It's good when prepared properly though. We raised them for food on the farm when I was growing up. Never tried a goat head though...

[ Parent ]
"gamey" is good! (3.00 / 2) (#48)
by livus on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 08:55:23 PM EST

yeah we used to eat wild goat when I was a kid. Now I get tame goat from the supermarket cos it's cheaper than anything else there.

Personally I often think the gamey meats are the best: goat, rabbit, wild pig, pheasant, quail, venison, duck...

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i am the party pooper here (4.68 / 16) (#45)
by circletimessquare on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 08:05:29 PM EST

and i will be accused of cultural insensitivity unless i clear that up right away:

we have been eating goats forever, across all cultures. god bless nigeria. god bless that tasty, tasty MUSCLE TISSUE goat meat. i sure do love me some jamaican curry goat.

but eating herbivore brains?

again, don't get me wrong. eating brains is nothing special to west africa. i am certain brain tissue has made it's way into our diets for a long time, before we were even humans. perhaps with less frequency as of late, but, and here's my whole party-pooping point:

prions are some scary shit. they aren't even viruses for crying out loud. they are just frickin proteins! how weird is that? they are like the fucking borg: resistance is futile, you will be assimilated and all that shit. how do you fight a nonliving protein which puts holes in your brain by chain reaction conversion of a benign brain protein to an evil form?

there is just nothing like species-jumping prions to scare the fuck out of you... if you want more heebie jeebies, especially if you live in the midwest of the usa/ canada, follow this link:

http://scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00028CB6-F6 0A-1EBB-BDC0809EC588EEDF

In fact, CWD appears to have originated from scrapie. Richard E. Race of the National Institutes of Health Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Hamilton, Mont., conducted test tube studies that revealed no distinction between the malformed PrP of scrapie sheep and CWD cervids. Consistent with this discovery, Amir Hamir of the U.S. Department of Agriculture's National Animal Disease Center in Ames, Iowa, found no difference in the appearance of brain samples from elk with CWD and elk experimentally infected with scrapie. (BSE also probably arose from scrapie, after cows ate feed derived from infected sheep.)

um, folks of the world? can i make a desperate appeal to you?

unless you are starving or poor, can we lay off the herbivore brain tissue please? i don't care how good it tastes, we just don't need prions jumping species and experimenting with new and novel efforts at turning our brains into swiss cheese... no headcheese jokes implied at all ;-(


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

okay then (5.00 / 3) (#46)
by livus on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 08:10:29 PM EST

you've more or less convinced me - and after all I don't eat fast food for the same reasons.

Hmmm, the more I think about it the more I realise we already have more than enough people with holes in their heads.

(I'm definately going to make this by chopping up some ribs or something, though, as it sounds quite good.)

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[ Parent ]

What? (1.87 / 8) (#49)
by autopr0n on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 11:07:38 PM EST

The prions are in all parts of the body, not just the brain. Also, they can't jump species. mad cow disease dosn't affect humans. I doubt any goat prion would harm a person.


[autopr0n] got pr0n?
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[ Parent ]
er (5.00 / 4) (#50)
by autopr0n on Mon Jun 09, 2003 at 11:08:34 PM EST

nevermind


[autopr0n] got pr0n?
autopr0n.com is a categorically searchable database of porn links, updated every day (or so). no popups!
[ Parent ]
dude (4.00 / 2) (#53)
by circletimessquare on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:23:39 AM EST

are you the same autopr0n on slashdot? i'm a fan ;-)

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
Crack smoker! (4.50 / 2) (#57)
by techwolf on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 02:39:58 AM EST

mad cow disease dosn't affect humans

tell that to my sister-in-law's uncle who is currently at Torrance memorial hospital dying of Mad cow...he is't expected to live more than another two days.


"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson
[ Parent ]

He isn't dieing of BSE, (3.75 / 4) (#67)
by President Saddam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 09:08:03 AM EST

but Cruetzfeld-Jakob disease, the human version.

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What part of "No, I didn't gas my own people" don't you understand?<
[ Parent ]
He isn't using Slackware, (4.00 / 4) (#69)
by ti dave on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 10:56:46 AM EST

but Debian, the communist version.

Do you get the point?

I'd like to put a bullet in your head, Ti_Dave. ~DominantParadigm
[ Parent ]

No, (3.66 / 3) (#70)
by President Saddam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 11:02:02 AM EST

can't say I do.

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What part of "No, I didn't gas my own people" don't you understand?<
[ Parent ]
If it looks like a duck and quacks like one too (5.00 / 1) (#71)
by ti dave on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 11:29:35 AM EST

Then it might f*cking actually be a duck. Do you want to take that chance?

I'd like to put a bullet in your head, Ti_Dave. ~DominantParadigm
[ Parent ]

Call a spade a fucking shovel (5.00 / 1) (#72)
by President Saddam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 11:36:57 AM EST

If I was dying of Creutzfeld-Jakob, I would hope people would bother to call my disease by it's proper name.

After all, people with HIV aren't describe as having simian immunedeficiency virus, are they?

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What part of "No, I didn't gas my own people" don't you understand?<
[ Parent ]

No, not typically... (5.00 / 1) (#74)
by ti dave on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 11:59:46 AM EST

Yet they work identically. There's your spade/shovel.

I'd like to put a bullet in your head, Ti_Dave. ~DominantParadigm
[ Parent ]

Do they work identically? (5.00 / 1) (#77)
by President Saddam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:41:18 PM EST

I'm not a virologist, are you?

But the point is that they are different conditions.

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What part of "No, I didn't gas my own people" don't you understand?<
[ Parent ]

Yes, they're different... (4.20 / 5) (#79)
by ti dave on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 01:13:00 PM EST

as different as Debian is different than Slackware, which leads us back to the beginning.

Also, though you're not a trained virologist, I must say I admired your bio-weapons programme.

I'd like to put a bullet in your head, Ti_Dave. ~DominantParadigm
[ Parent ]

they aren't different conditions (2.33 / 3) (#84)
by circletimessquare on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 03:53:41 PM EST

they are caused by the same damn thing, which does jump species

and plus, your comment "i'm not a virologist" is rather telling

because IT'S NOT CAUSED BY A VIRUS MORON, BUT BY A PRION

maybe you should learn about something before delivering your stupid fucking opinion about something... because the value of your opinion now is exactly diddly squat, very obviously based on your demonstrated level of knowledge of the subject: zero

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

doesn't that make them fundamentally different? (3.00 / 3) (#87)
by circletimessquare on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 04:36:43 PM EST

every other disease... heck, every other living thing is encoded in DNA, or in a tiny minority of cases, retroviruses, in RNA

a prion is just a frickin' protein! isn't that somewhat amazing and fundamentally earth shattering?

i mean, can you even call them alive? viruses themselves are suspect in this regard, but prions are even one more order of magnitude removed from traditional life than viruses


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

prions ARE scary (3.40 / 5) (#89)
by circletimessquare on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 04:58:23 PM EST

as far as i know- correct me if i am wrong, but prions are merely a form of brain protein that has the (hopefully) unique ability of simply turning other forms of a particular brain protein into itself- no manufacture, no encoding, no enzymes like reverse transcriptase... just pure, simple, unadulterated flip mode squad replication ;-P

i mean, we should really think of it terms of a chemical reaction, liek organic chemistry, because the way it works is not the way of life at all, but simply the way of a simple, unadulterated, one step chemical reaction!

not even a delivery vehicle, right?

i mean it's like glutamate just floating around your blood stream! (a little more complicated form of protein, granted)

how does it get across the blood-brain barrier?

prions are scary shit!


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

would someone please tell me who zerorated my post (1.75 / 4) (#100)
by circletimessquare on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 12:13:19 AM EST

i mean, why?

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
it was (none / 0) (#124)
by Black Black Heart on Thu Jun 12, 2003 at 05:57:42 PM EST

"The writer" i've seen him zero out other posts too...

You'll be restored after this...
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[ Parent ]
It is not a chemical reaction (5.00 / 1) (#101)
by grouse on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 12:45:46 AM EST

It is a physical change--the change in the prion protein's conformation.

You sad bastard!

"Grouse please don't take this the wrong way... To be quite frank, you are throwing my inner Chi out of its harmonious balance with nature." -- Tex Bigballs
[ Parent ]

uhhh... (3.00 / 2) (#105)
by circletimessquare on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 02:44:11 AM EST

physical change arrived at how? the nuclear weak force? ;-P

i think chemistry has a tad bit to do with it, no? ;-P


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

No chemistry involved (5.00 / 4) (#108)
by Dr Seltsam on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 07:11:26 AM EST

There is in fact no chemical change involved in the prion conversion. The cellular and the pathological form of the prion protein have exactly the same chemical composition, there is no disruption or formation of chemical bonds involved. The only difference between the two isoforms is of a structural nature, which means that the bond angles of the pathological form differ from those of the cellular form. This is a purely physical difference, comparable to a phase transition like ice->water, or, more exactly, like the transition between two solid phases.
The fact that I'm paranoid does not mean that they are not after me.
[ Parent ]
Organic ice-nine? (5.00 / 1) (#111)
by Pop Top on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 10:55:36 AM EST

As a metaphor?

[ Parent ]
Yes! (none / 0) (#112)
by Dr Seltsam on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 11:14:26 AM EST

Why didn't I think of this??? I have to remember that one for future use!
The fact that I'm paranoid does not mean that they are not after me.
[ Parent ]
How about (none / 0) (#114)
by Pop Top on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 12:38:36 PM EST

writing a genuine K5 article on prions?

Not just the Yahoo! stuff and human interest bits but technical details like how these things actually work.

[ Parent ]

Prion article (none / 0) (#115)
by Dr Seltsam on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 01:28:15 PM EST

Not a bad idea, there seems to be some interest in the subject. Problem is, as I am working with the damn little bastards all day long, I don't find too much time for writing about them. But most probably I will try, just give me some time.
The fact that I'm paranoid does not mean that they are not after me.
[ Parent ]
write the article! (none / 0) (#119)
by circletimessquare on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 09:12:47 PM EST

al qaeda needs kuru! lol

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]
Information wants to vote (5.00 / 1) (#123)
by sllort on Thu Jun 12, 2003 at 04:54:54 PM EST

The first one is by far the most abusive.

http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2003/6/9/113259/2515/89#89:
Pop Top 4
The Writer 4
rvcx 4
President Saddam 0

http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2003/6/9/113259/2515/100#100
rvcx 1
The Writer 0

http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2003/6/12/13588/7407/9#9:
sllort 3
The Writer 0
rvcx 0
VoxLobster 0
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[ Parent ]

I was talking about HIV, dipstick (none / 0) (#97)
by President Saddam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 10:15:52 PM EST



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What part of "No, I didn't gas my own people" don't you understand?<
[ Parent ]
Congratulations (none / 0) (#98)
by President Saddam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 10:17:26 PM EST

Your bizarre rant has just made my sig.

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What part of "No, I didn't gas my own people" don't you understand?<
[ Parent ]
Prions jumping species. (5.00 / 4) (#58)
by katie on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 03:41:48 AM EST


I think it's more we're not actually /sure/ prions can't jump species. It looks like they can - because people have got CjD. However, originally CjD came from cannabalism involving eating ancestor brains - and it must have come from somewhere. So it's also possible that CjD has an entirely non-cow related origin in humans either as well, or instead.

There's no technical reason why prions can't jump species. It just doesn't seem to work in the lab - you can feed mice all the scrapie infected brains you want and they're fine...

Personally, I wouldn't eat brains/spinal cord on the basis that it's where the CjD related prions appear to concentrate and there's no point in taking risks if you don't have to...

[ Parent ]

Species barrier (5.00 / 6) (#59)
by Dr Seltsam on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 06:23:39 AM EST

Prions can actually jump between species. It has been reproduced in the lab. I'm not quite sure if it has been accomplished by oral infection, but it definitely works by intracerebral inoculation. The interesting thing is that there seems to be some kind of species barrier. Animals infected by prion strains from another species develop the disease much more slowly than those infected with prions from the same species. However, if you take prions from these animals and infect another animal from the same species, incubation times are back to normal.
Interestingly, this species barrier differs for various species. For example, there is a small species barrier between cattle and sheep or goats, but a very high species barrier between sheep and humans. So the probability for catching vCJD from a scrapie-infected goat seems to be quite low.
For more details, do a medline search on (prions AND "species barrier").
The fact that I'm paranoid does not mean that they are not after me.
[ Parent ]
Chike Nnaji?! (3.00 / 2) (#51)
by JChen on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:00:43 AM EST

Is that you, you son-of-a-bitch prince? Bastard. You get royal treatment in Nigeria in your "boarding school" (read: "massage parlor") while I work my ass off in a 1 - 10 job. And you get goat head. What's next? Frau gibt mich sehr gut? (<- I do not know what that really means.) <p> Life just isn't fair!

Let us do as we say.
Frau gibt mich sehr gut? (5.00 / 1) (#61)
by Typo Negitive on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 06:43:56 AM EST

Woman gives me very well...

- Sig -

It may be that our role on this planet is not to worship God, but to create him.

- Oscar Wilde cannot be held responsible
[ Parent ]

Nnaji loaf? (3.66 / 3) (#62)
by marcos on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 06:54:44 AM EST

Was his father a baker? I know someone like that, I think...

[ Parent ]
His dad's the (re)Education Minister, methinks. (3.66 / 3) (#68)
by JChen on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 09:33:48 AM EST

But they're pretty damn rich for civil servants!

Let us do as we say.
[ Parent ]
I wouldn't care (5.00 / 2) (#75)
by marcos on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:10:51 PM EST

My dad has been an official during one of the republics, and the posts are just governmental gratitude for being a political whore. They mean nothing.

I know someone with that name in hamburg, but only because he was in my ex school. I wouldn't know what his dad does.

[ Parent ]

It's gotta be said. (2.00 / 18) (#52)
by opendna on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:08:28 AM EST

Some folks eat goat head, some eat goat....



No. (n/t) (none / 0) (#125)
by makohill on Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 09:39:09 AM EST


Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. --RMS
[ Parent ]
Hey now. (4.63 / 11) (#55)
by mrgoat on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 01:26:28 AM EST

That's just not cool. No eating my head.

"I'm having sex right now?" - Joh3n
--Top Hat--

Well you're a starfucker (1.02 / 41) (#63)
by gr00vey on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 07:35:00 AM EST

STARFUCKER (M. Jagger/K. Richards) Baby, baby, I've been so sad since you've been gone Way back to New York City Where you do belong Honey, I missed your two-tone kisses Legs wrapped around me tight If I ever get back to Fun City, girl I'm gonna make you scream all night Honey, honey, call me on the telephone I know you're movin' out to Hollywood With your can of tasty foam All those beat up friends of mine Got to get you in their books And lead guitars and movie stars Get their tongues beneath your hood Yeah! You're a star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star Yeah, a star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star A star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker star Yeah, I heard about you Polaroid's Now that's what I call obscene Your tricks with fruit was kind a cute I bet you keep your pussy clean Honey, I miss your two tone kisses Legs wrapped around me tight If I ever get back to New York, girl Gonna make you scream all night Yeah! You're a star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star Yeah, a star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star A star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker star Yeah, Ali McGraw got mad with you For givin' head to Steve McQueen Yeah, and me we made a pretty pair Fallin' through the Silver Screen Honey, I'm open to anything I don't know where to draw the line Yeah, I'll make bets that you're gonna get John Wayne before he dies Yeah! You're a star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star Yeah, a star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star A star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker star Yes you are A star fucker, star fucker, star fucker, star fucker star

nins version is better (4.37 / 8) (#64)
by noogie on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 08:08:21 AM EST




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[ Parent ]
troll bait (3.62 / 8) (#65)
by speek on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 08:53:45 AM EST

need I say more?

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al queda is kicking themsleves for not knowing about the levees

guess I did need to say more (5.00 / 3) (#93)
by speek on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 07:00:07 PM EST

see, trolls like to eat goats.

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al queda is kicking themsleves for not knowing about the levees
[ Parent ]

Spirits definition... (3.40 / 5) (#76)
by johwsun on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 12:28:51 PM EST

Jesus defined Spirits:
"Spirits are like the wind, you dont know where they come from, and where they go."

I also dont know where I come from, and where I go. Do you think I am a spirit too? I also like to eat goat's head... poor goat!


..sometimes of course... (none / 0) (#85)
by johwsun on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 04:04:47 PM EST

..while eating goats head, I found myself eaten by the goat!...
So eating goats head is not recommended...

[ Parent ]
Smalahove (4.50 / 8) (#78)
by zenit on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 01:09:19 PM EST

"Smalahove", sheep head, is traditional food in Western Norway. It's burnt and smoked or salted, and tastes quite good. I even found a picture, from a local food festival: http://www.norphoto.com/r/n.php?n=6124

Some more (none / 0) (#116)
by zenit on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 04:41:46 PM EST

I found some more images:

http://www.tele.ntnu.no/akustikk/meetings/CSA/voss/voss.html
(Bottom of the page.)

... and something to read:

http://www.unc.edu/~zuiker/norway.html

[ Parent ]

the intro (4.66 / 3) (#91)
by circletimessquare on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 06:48:50 PM EST

made me think of afroman's doom monitor mod

http://www.afrotechmods.com/doom1.htm

check out the rest of his site too, it's hilarious, the layout too...

like "Afrotech's Hard-disk Sound System"

http://www.afrotechmods.com/cheap/hdspeakers/hdspeakers.htm

he turned hard drives into speakers! HAHAHAHAHAHA


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

Um, goat head. (3.33 / 3) (#92)
by aparent on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 06:51:27 PM EST

Wonder which is better. To give, or to receive?

The obvious comment (4.00 / 4) (#94)
by jabber on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 07:36:00 PM EST

This completely explains the motivation behind Nigerian SPAM email - to get some money and get the hell out of Nigeria.

[TINK5C] |"Is K5 my kapusta intellectual teddy bear?"| "Yes"

Aww, you disappoint me. (none / 0) (#99)
by wji on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 11:12:37 PM EST

I was hoping for "-1 to Nigerian-centric".

Actually, I thought those were Nigeran scams, not NigerIan scams. Different countries -- both named for the Niger river.

In conclusion, the Powerpuff Girls are a reactionary, pseudo-feminist enterprise.
[ Parent ]

Nope, 419 Scams... (5.00 / 1) (#102)
by Dee Kaos on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 01:21:36 AM EST

Are very Nigerian. Sorry.
Dee Kaos

[ Parent ]
Palm oil... (1.40 / 5) (#95)
by jabber on Tue Jun 10, 2003 at 07:40:15 PM EST

You can get this at any African shop, and I am sure that there is one near your home. Ask the next African you meet, and he might know. And if not, the ignorant crackers who try will get a whoopin! Brilliant!

[TINK5C] |"Is K5 my kapusta intellectual teddy bear?"| "Yes"

EAT goat heads? Ow! (4.00 / 1) (#103)
by mjfgates on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 02:10:56 AM EST

Here in Denver, "goat heads" are an annoying kind of caltrop-shaped burr, which tend to puncture bicycle tires. No *way* am I going to eat any of those, boiled or not.

ˇNothing Like Diarrhea And Spongy Encephalitis! (3.00 / 3) (#104)
by Walabio on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 02:14:28 AM EST

ˇBut not for me!


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ˇImpeach Dubya!

Spamming caused by Goat Head prions? (3.25 / 4) (#109)
by zentara on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 07:19:35 AM EST

Empirical evidence suggests eating Goat Head causes uncontrollable urges to type in CAPITAL LETTERS, and send bulk emails.

DEAR SIR (1.00 / 2) (#121)
by rmn on Thu Jun 12, 2003 at 01:43:31 AM EST

DEAR sir

I am DR CHIKA CHUMA  Deputy secretary to the Nigerian Football Association, parent body of the World Youths Championship, Nigeria 99' Local Organizing Committee, an affiliate of Federation of International Football Association (FIFA)..

In the course of our preparation to host the World Youth Soccer Championship Tagged (Nig¡¦99) early last four years, huge sum of money running into millions of United States Dollars was budgeted by the then Military Government for the successful organization of this competition. In the same vein, FIFA via its President, Mr. Joseph (SEPP)Blatter, made millions of dollars available for the same project, not to talk of
Corporate Organizations and Football loving individuals who made huge donations.

However, in my capacity as the deputy secretary, toboth the Local Organizing Committee (LOC), and the Nigerian Football Association(NFA), I,along with two of my colleagues in sensitive positions were able to over-invoice most contracts, which were awarded for the construction and the refurbishing of the 8 stadia used for the competition. The contractors who handled these projects have been paid-off.

It is pertinent to note that a total sum of thirty-two million United States Dollars(US$32,000,000.00) was realized as over-invoice after the successful completion of the project.

This over-invoiced sum is lying in my organization's(NFA) suspense account with the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), ready for transfer into the beneficiarys account oversea, waiting for the appropriate opportunity to do so.

In this years (2003) budget speech, the new Civilian President has ordered that all foreign contractors debts should be paid in order to boost more Foreign investors into Nigeria.

On this note, I have been unanimously mandated by my two colleagues to seek an honest and trustworthy Foreigner who will assist in ensuring the successful transfer of the above sum into a personal/company account since the Nigerian code of conduct does not allow us (Civil servants) to operate foreign accounts.

It is pertinent also to let you know that 30% of the total fund will be for you, while 10% will be used to settle any expenses that might be incurred by both parties and the remaining 60% will be for us (my colleagues and I) to be invested in your country.

We have chosen you / your company to benefit with us in this transaction due to the respect your country commands here.

You might be surprised and curious of an offer like this, be rest assured that the modalities andlogistics towards the successful transfer of this fund has been worked out. All we require from you is your co-operation. This transaction is risk free.

We kindly request that you accord it the highest level of secrecy it deserves. Your swift response will be highly appreciated.

Best regards,

DR CHIKA CHUMA
NB:PLEASE REPLY TO MY DIRECT AND PRIVATE EMAIL
ADDRESS:goathead@africamail.com


[ Parent ]

I'm sure they also have a recipe ... (3.00 / 5) (#110)
by lvogel on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 08:30:23 AM EST

for my leather sandals.
-- ----------------------
"When you're on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog!"

-a dog
From Spain (5.00 / 1) (#113)
by viccos on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 11:31:05 AM EST

I have to say that in Spain it is usual to eat lamb head. I have eaten,so not so rare for me. Now you can presume of having "head eaters" in k5

Heads. Heads all over the place. (5.00 / 1) (#117)
by Tezcatlipoca on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 05:19:28 PM EST

In the land of the cactus and the snake, we eat heads of everything on a daily basis (the "we" here is an euphemism, I never did myself, I prefer other delicacies much safer like grasshoppers or maguey worms). In Mexico City close to the underground stations you find taco stalls that amongst their many delicacies may have cooked pig heads. You can calm your hunger with tacos of "cachete" (cheek), "trompa" (snout), "oreja" (ears), "lengua" (tongue) or "sesos" (brains).

If after that you still feel hungry you can head up for a barbacoa stall in one of the many markets in town, you will be greeted by goat heads galore used also to make tacos and soups.

And beef, of course, is also eaten. Don't try
this at home!

Bon apetit!


Might is right
Freedom? Which freedom?

Head through the ages (5.00 / 3) (#120)
by epepke on Wed Jun 11, 2003 at 11:58:42 PM EST

Back when my father was a student, he once saw lamb at an incredibly low price at a Greek restaurant. He ordered it, and it turned out to be a barbecued lamb head. It was split at the back so you could get at the brain. He said it was pretty good, though he couldn't bring himself to eat the eyeballs.

Head cheese is basically a head boiled until all the soft bits come out and then allowed to gel in its own aspic.

Pork brains, usually mixed with eggs, used to be pretty popular in the South before people became paranoid about prions. Only about 20 years ago, you could still get them canned in the grocery store. Incidentally, palm oil also used to be common before people started getting paranoid of heart attacks. It's presence made Nutella really good, and its absence is probably the main reason why it isn't so good any more. You can still get palm oil in yuppie granola-head stores, where it's sold for cosmetic purposes.


The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head.--Terry Pratchett


Palm oil is REALLY bad for you (none / 0) (#126)
by RyoCokey on Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 02:15:10 PM EST

Not that one use is going to kill you, but it's like 70% saturated fat. See here



"Seems to me the whole world has lost a basic virute, that of patients." - travlight
[ Parent ]
Fine, but... (5.00 / 1) (#127)
by epepke on Fri Jun 13, 2003 at 02:30:16 PM EST

If I'm gonna eat a crushed goat head from a wooden bowl in Nigeria with my fingers while being bitten by malaria-carrying mosquitos, it damn well better have some palm oil in it.

If I want something that's good for me, I'll get a salad. At the Hilton.


The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head.--Terry Pratchett


[ Parent ]
Maybe, but... (none / 0) (#130)
by kinnell on Tue Jun 17, 2003 at 04:41:26 PM EST

Its very, very tasty - especially in chilli based dishes. Well worth the imperceivable reduction life expectancy as far as I'm concerned.

[ Parent ]
Even more head... (none / 0) (#129)
by djeaux on Mon Jun 16, 2003 at 03:54:33 PM EST

I am reminded of the infamous Alabama squirrel brain pizza, which I witnessed one dark & stormy night in a pizzeria alongside Highway 84 just east of the Mississippi line.

How this compares with goat's head soup, I dunno, but I guarantee it was more "artistic." In a redneck sort of way, of course...

djeaux
"Obviously, I'm not an IBM computer any more than I'm an ashtray." (Bob Dylan)
[ Parent ]

mmm mmm (none / 0) (#128)
by mmm hmmm on Sat Jun 14, 2003 at 11:17:00 PM EST

This was a fun post to read.

My girlfriend is from Mali (contains the fabled city of Timbuktu). She really likes goat head. Especially for breakfast. She cooks it different though.

She just plops the head in a large kettle with water, pepper, garlic, onion, and bouillon. I think that's it. In this manner, you have to crack the skull open to eat the brain. Usually, we find it less messy to have the head cut in half when purchasing and cook it that way.

It really tastes good - especially with hot tea and french bread to grab the meat with. Personally, I love the meat on the side of the head, usually it is very tender and tasty. The eyeballs are very tasty too. For most people, though, the tounge is the delicacy.

For those who come to Washington, D.C. and want to try goat head without cooking it themselves, I believe there is at least one west african restaurant, Songhai, which serves it as a regular dish.

Nobody has a word of sympathy for the poor goat?!? (none / 0) (#131)
by nurallen on Wed Jun 18, 2003 at 06:44:51 PM EST



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