As for alternatives...
None of your suggested alternatives provide the complete answer to our long-term energy needs. See below:
in my city 1/3 of the buses run on natural gas
(1) Excerpt from "The Hydrogen Economy" (good book):
"...new studies suggest that global production of natural gas is likely to peak soon after global oil production, with some analysts predicting a peak as early as 2020. Dutch Shell says that 'natural gas scarcity could occur as early as 2025'... compounding the problem, more than 40% of the total [natural gas reserves] are in the Middle East".
(2) Continuing on, you don't have to lecture us about natural gas use, as "there are 272 gas-fired power plants currently under construction or on order in the US." As stated in the book, once they all come online in the next ten years, our energy grid will become virtually dependent on natural gas.
In Brazil cars that use alcohol as a fuel are very popular.
(1) How many people in Brazil own cars? From what I have been able to research (and I may be wrong with this figure since I got it off the net without looking for a second source) only 1/8 of the population of Brazil has cars. Thats 175 million divided by 8 = 22 million cars. How many people in the US own cars? The average is a little more than 1 car for every person. Thats 300 million cars. Trying to run that many cars on alcohol is absurd at best. We would have to turn every square mile of our country into genetically engineered cornfields (or sugar cane fields or whatever).
(2) Here's the real kicker: If you look at the numbers, it takes MORE ENERGY TO PRODUCE ALCOHOL THAN WHAT YOU GET FROM BURNING IT! (You have to fertilize, plant, cultivate, harvest, transport, ferment, distill, etc. etc.) In other words by using alcohol you are actually blatantly *wasting* energy as there is a net energy loss! I realize this isn't what you've been told by the enviro-pundits but what do you expect? Hey, look, you can't blame them - its a lucrative business - they dupe everyone into believing that they are saving the environment when they are actually defrauding it. Meanwhile they line their pockets with cash from people who don't know any better - during which time the greenies are too preoccupied accusing "Big Oil" of destroying the environment to see who the real scammers are. I have two new terms that I am going to coin now: "Big Corn" and "Big Alcohol". Lets hope they go bankrupt soon for the sake of all of us.
(3) Not to mention, in the process of growing all of this corn, farmers damage the environment with tons of fertilizers and pesticides which eventually find their way into *your* drinking water. For a deeper discussion of this, read "The Solar Fraud" a book written by Howard Hayden, an energy specialist.
i'm sure no one is against them [wind turbines] in Antarctica, where they supply energy to the scientists living there
Your right, nobody objects to wind turbines in Antarctica. Unfortunately wind turbines in ANTARCTICA don't do the industrialized world up here in AMERICA any good! Come on now Vesperto, lets not lose focus on the big picture! Sheesh.
Keep in mind, I'm not *against* wind turbines. Heck, I say lets install them and to hell with the scenery and dead birds. But again, it would take a swath of wind turbines 30 miles wide stretching from San Francisco to LA just to provide california's energy needs. Thats a *lot* of wind turbines, a lot of ruined scenery and a lot of dead birds.
Toyota (Izuzu in the US?) has a hybrid gasoline-electricity car in the market
Where do these hybrid electric cars get their electrical power from? Answer: Fossil Fuels. Either the engine provides it by burning gasoline or when you plug the car into a wall socket it gets its energy from a coal plant down the road. So in other words electric cars do not create a magical new source of energy for us.
I keep my statement: Money = research.
Agreed. Care to donate some?
Hey, I have an idea - maybe some European Green Peace whackos and their anarchist mobster friends will front the money for these technological breakthroughs since after all, they are so environmentally friendly and so brilliant and the US is nothing but a stupid evil polluting bullying superpower that doesn't care about the environment.
Hell, maybe Bin Laden will donate the money. He wants the US out of the Middle East, right? Or maybe the Middle Eastern countries themselves will fund the breakthroughs. Granted, they would go bankrupt without the industrialized nations buying oil from them, but at least they would get all of the infidels out of their countries - surely they don't mind being poor so long as they don't have to put up with us infidels being in their countries.
Or how about this. How about we take back our $15 billion pledge to fight AIDS in Africa and spend it on alternative energy research instead. Hell nobody appreciates all of our foreign aid anyways. We could donate our entire $10 trillion GDP to the world and we'd still be labeled as selfish, bullying, innocent-child-bombing war-mongers.
-- Lord Dogma
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