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FBI ends anthrax investigation after extremely suspicious suicide

By gndn in Op-Ed
Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 04:57:49 AM EST
Tags: corruption, coverup (all tags)

The FBI is set to officially end its seven-year investigation into the 2001 anthrax attacks after a prime suspect apparently committed suicide. No, it wasn't Steven Hatfill, the FBI's number one patsy, but rather Bruce Ivins, a former government anthrax researcher. Ivins allegedly committed suicide after learning that the FBI were close to filing criminal charges.

"Three sources familiar with the investigation said the case soon will be closed because a threat no longer exists."

Yes, that's right, there's no need for further investigation, nothing to see here, let's all just move on now.


There are numerous ways in which this entire story seems highly suspect:

  1. "In October, press reports revealed that White House staff had been on a regimen of the powerful antibiotic Cipro since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Judicial Watch wants to know why White House workers, including President Bush, began taking the drug nearly a month before anthrax was detected on Capitol Hill." (source)
  2. "The first draft of the PATRIOT Act would have suspended the writ of habeas corpus [which protects citizens from unlawful imprisonment and guarantees due process of law]. Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, come these anthrax attacks." (source)
  3. "Documents from the inquiry show that one unauthorized person who was observed entering the lab building at night was Langford's predecessor, Lt. Col. Philip Zack, who at the time no longer worked at Fort Detrick." (source)
  4. "But Assaad believes there is a possible link between the person who sent the unsigned letter to the FBI and the terrorist who sent anthrax to Democratic politicians and prominent members of the media. Whoever it was seemed to display eerie foreknowledge of the biological attacks, since the letter was sent to the FBI well before any anthrax terror attacks were known to the public." (source)

Despite a truly herculean effort to find some way to pin the blame for the anthrax attacks onto their first patsy (Steven Hatfill) the FBI was eventually forced to admit that they had no case against him. Hatfill sued the government and won a multi-million dollar settlement, which pales in comparison to the money and man-hours the FBI wasted "investigating" him (including draining a pond where they claimed Hatfill may have disposed of evidence). It seems clear that the FBI wished very much to appear methodical and diligent in their investigation, all while going out of their way to avoid the one person who had been caught on camera entering a bioweapons lab without authorization, and who had previously been involved in a racially motivated incident involving an Egyptian co-worker.

Now, it seems that the ongoing problem of who to blame for all this has solved itself - at least from the FBI's point of view. Their new patsy has died an extremely convenient death, meaning that he will not be able to defend himself publicly and ultimately sue the government for harassment, as Hatfill did. Was Ivins intimidated into committing suicide by threats from the FBI, or was he "assisted" in some way? The bottom line is that it doesn't matter - Ivins will never be vindicated, and his guilt or innocence is now irrelevant in the eyes of the FBI, who will soon close the case and declare themselves victorious in this latest sham battle against terrorism.

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FBI ends anthrax investigation after extremely suspicious suicide | 38 comments (32 topical, 6 editorial, 0 hidden)
why should i care (1.50 / 2) (#2)
by lonelyhobo on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:10:53 PM EST

answer: i should not

yeah ok (2.00 / 4) (#3)
by GhostOfTiber on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:19:26 PM EST

"suspicious" is when a guy who knows about biology hangs himself.

Offing himself with a dose of chemicals is pretty clearly suicide.

Also clearly suspicious:
* Before September 11th, towers were built in New York with dollars printed by the United State's Government. Bush's Federal Reserve declined to comment.

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne

they built towers out of dollars? (none / 0) (#17)
by lonelyhobo on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:49:43 PM EST

holy shit

[ Parent ]
typical paranoid schizophrenia (2.00 / 9) (#4)
by circletimessquare on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:35:21 PM EST

healthy distrust of your government is normal and helpful to the functioning of a vibrant society

however, rabid, paranoid schizophrenic musings on all evil in the world falling at the government's doorstep is not anywhere near the definition of "healthy distrust". more like pathological hobbling distrust

oh right, sorry... wrong message, let me try again:

the government killed this guy and made it look like a suicide. oh, by the way, the government did the anthrax mailings too. right after they did 9/11

guess what retards: real life isn't a b-grade hollywood movie plot

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

typical yuppie complacency (3.00 / 6) (#9)
by Peahippo on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:14:01 PM EST

The FBI spent 7 years investigating and has nothing to show for it but a dead patsy and wasted millions. Note well that Anthrax spores are about as traceable as plutonium, which is to say VERY ... but never mind that. Perhaps we can just chalk all this up to saying the FBI is the best-funded set of keystone cops ever seen in Human history.

SEVEN YEARS. NO RESULTS. It's amazing what BULLSHIT you American yuppie fucks will accept. Clearly there's a conspiracy; even the FBI isn't THIS incompetent; this so-called investigation has been nothing but a farce decreed from the highest echelons of the government (since the very Congress itself was attacked). You probably even think that you can bailout all these bad mortgages, too! La la la -- yuppie Amerifucks will believe ANYTHING they're shown on their TV sets. "All is well! Keep spending! All is well!"

I'm going to really enjoy shooting people like you in the now inevitable American Civil War II. SRSLY.


[ Parent ]
gw bush: warhawk asshole (2.33 / 3) (#13)
by circletimessquare on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 09:27:20 PM EST

dick cheney: warhawk asshole

john mccain: warhawk asshole

this anthrax scientist: deranged warhawk asshole

so far, both you and i have nothing to disagree about

my conclusion: individual initiative by random warhawk assholes sure can wreak a lot of havoc in the world

your conclusion: a top secret dark cabal of warhawk assholes controls all these manipulations in a finely tuned agenda

occam's razor friend, apply to brain, it needs a shave. it's getting hairy ;-)

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Forget initiative. (none / 1) (#27)
by rpresser on Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 06:23:19 PM EST

Why 7 years and no arrest?

Unassisted crazy warhawks shouldn't be capable of eluding a multi-billion-dollar budget law enforcement agency for seven years.
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"In terms of both hyperbolic overreaching and eventual wrongness, the Permanent [Republican] Majority has set a new, and truly difficult to beat, standard." --rusty
[ Parent ]

THE FBI IS TOO STUPID TO STOP 9/11 (none / 1) (#28)
by circletimessquare on Mon Aug 04, 2008 at 10:41:00 PM EST

BUT CAPABLE OF COVERING UP A MULTIPLE PERSON MULTIYEAR GRAND CONSPIRACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

oh wait, they did 9/11 too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I JUST NEED TO TIE IN THE UFOS AND TEH J00S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

They haven't been able to cover it up (none / 0) (#29)
by A Bore on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 07:17:06 AM EST

We are having a discussion, yes? People are asking questions, yes? How is this covered up?

[ Parent ]
no one is asking questions (none / 0) (#30)
by circletimessquare on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 03:00:40 PM EST

armchair morons are doing what armchair morons do

DISCOVER TEH ILLUMNATI!!!!

OH NOES!!!!!

careful, paranoid retards at work, TEH FBI IS WATCHING YER MASSIVE GENIUS!!!

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Seriously (none / 0) (#31)
by A Bore on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 06:53:30 AM EST

God, you are just so fucking stupid. Lets recap. The conspiracy theory is wrong, you say, because the FBI would be incapable of covering up the "MULTIPLE PERSON MULTIYEAR GRAND CONSPIRACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!". But cts, that is what is occurring. you seem to imagine that no-one except a few paranoid bloggers are asking questions. No-one? No-one at all? Is there nothing out there you can find? It's really difficult finding mainstream sources that ask questions. Bloody conspiracy theorists everywhere.

Conclusion: once again you, through stupendous efforts in the realm of illogical stupidity, you achieve entry to a transcendental plane of idiocy, like a sort of fuckwittgenstein.

[ Parent ]
why is it more likely (none / 0) (#32)
by circletimessquare on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:20:50 AM EST

that there is some grand conspiracy than it is the case that one lone wackjob did the anthrax mailings?

explain that to me in a way that does not violate occams razor and provides actual evidence (as opposed to random facts interpretted wildly) and i will concede

The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

Ha ha! (none / 0) (#33)
by A Bore on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 09:41:34 AM EST

You do not know the actual evidence, so you want me to summarise it for you. You are not familiar with the history of the case, ie. the first case against Hatfill or else you wouldn't ask such absurd questions. What has Occam's razor to do it? You clothe your post in a veneer of intellectualism. This is a move-along exercise. "Oh please outline all the facts you know about everything, then I can nitpick over trivialities and look intelligent."

[ Parent ]
give me one piece of evidence (none / 0) (#34)
by circletimessquare on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:46:18 AM EST

just one

say it in one sentence

give me some words to type in google

just a crumb

otherwise, your silence is deafening ;-)

...evidence, btw, not a fact and then a wild deduction tacked onto it

occam's razor: when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras

do you need that concept explained to you?


The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

[ Parent ]

F.B.I...SPACEBAR...A.N.T.H.R.A.X (none / 0) (#35)
by A Bore on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:13:27 PM EST

SPACEBAR is referring to the elongated rectangular key at the lower middle of your keyboard, DON'T TYPE IN THE WORD.

Now, cts, I have provided you with a number of HOT, HOT links in this post, which I hope you went and read. You did read them, didn't you? Each one was as topical as it was gripping.

ALL of these links were noting the following facts. Now pay attention closely here. Have a glass of water and some fish to freshen up your mental prowess, because you're going to have to concentrate.

  • The F.B.I. (Federal Bureau of Investigation) have blamed a dead man for the crime.
  • They have released very little information (take note of this fact - it is very important).
  • The information they have released is contradictory to their own position on his guilt.

    You see, asking me for the information when the F.B.I are being criticised for not releasing it is again falling through the rotting basement of your mental faculties. Now, as I like you a lot and think we should be famous friends, a bit like penpals for the electronic world, I'll give you the terms to type into google to get this information, just like a monkey on a stick. I'll put the terms in quote marks so its completely unambiguous. "INFLATABLE" "ASSHOLE".


    [ Parent ]
  • teehee ;-) (none / 0) (#36)
    by circletimessquare on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:24:39 PM EST

    i said evidence

    not facts conflated with wild conclusions

    which is exactly what i thought you would deliver, and is exactly what you delivered

    paranoia is so predictable, and a poor replacement for actusal intelligent thought, even though so many function on a day to day basis with US versus THEM as the mythology that explains their lot in life, why things happen, etc.

    The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

    [ Parent ]

    WILD CONCLUSHUNZ (none / 0) (#37)
    by A Bore on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:37:16 PM EST

    Question 1: 5 marks
    If a man drops letters in a letterbox in Princeton after 5pm, ensuring they have the correct postmark, yet still makes his appointment either one hour earlier, or at the same exact time 3 hours drive away, is it:
    A) WILD CONCLUSHUNZ
    B) EXTREME CONSPIRATZIES
    or C) INFLATABLE ASSHOLZ
    Please show your working

    You answered A), but instead of showing your working, you drew a picture of a little man on a piebald horse, jumping through fields in a fairy world to what appears to be a techno version of Oasis' "Wonderwall". Thus we can only give you a half mark.

    You're a special person, cts. Don't let anyone else tell you differently, not that you'd understand it.

    [ Parent ]
    you keep digging this hole (none / 0) (#38)
    by circletimessquare on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 12:43:53 PM EST

    this time discrepancy demonstrates:

    1. the timeline is off
    2. the illuminati has been revealed

    you decide (snicker)

    The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.

    [ Parent ]
    Well, as long as the rest of us (3.00 / 5) (#14)
    by Harry B Otch on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 09:39:58 PM EST

    are busy making d-grade unfinished films, all should be just jake.

    -----

    A lamentable petty bourgeois cry of fear.-.
    [ Parent ]

    Another interesting source (none / 1) (#8)
    by anaesthetica on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 06:19:01 PM EST

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/

    —I'm the little engine that didn't.
    k5: our trolls go to eleven
    [A]S FAR AS A PERSON'S ACTIONS ARE CONCERNED, IT IS NOT TRUE THAT NOTHING BUT GOOD COMES FROM GOOD AND NOTHING BUT EVIL COMES FROM EVIL, BUT RATHER QUITE FREQUENTLY THE OPPOSITE IS THE CASE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT REALIZE THIS IS IN FACT A MERE CHILD IN POLITICAL MATTERS. max weber, politics as a vocation


    So (2.50 / 4) (#11)
    by Vampire Zombie Abu Musab al Zarqawi on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 07:44:03 PM EST

    Anyone have any interesting porn links? I'd like some asian, but none of that silly censored stuff.

    interesting porn? you are opening pandora's box (none / 1) (#23)
    by The Hanged Man on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 10:26:03 PM EST

    pun intended

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    Dificile est saturam non scribere - Juvenal
    [ Parent ]
    With all the crap on the front page, (none / 0) (#15)
    by debillitatus on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 09:46:43 PM EST

    I'm still voting -1, because this is even stupider.

    Damn you and your daily doubles, you brigand!

    Wait a minute (none / 0) (#16)
    by localroger on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:25:02 PM EST

    You mean Hatfill really was innocent?

    Didn't see that coming.

    And that is what is so great about the internet. It enables pompous blowhards to connect with other pompous blowhards in a vast circle jerk of pomposity

    after hatfill (none / 0) (#18)
    by lonelyhobo on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 10:53:13 PM EST

    if i knew the fbi was coming to fuck my life up like they did with his I'd consider offing myself too

    [ Parent ]
    You would kill yourself... (none / 0) (#20)
    by localroger on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 10:58:32 AM EST

    ...knowing that a likely outcome might be USD$5,000,000 plus USD$150,000 per year for the rest of your life? Which is what Hatfill was awarded some time ago for his troubles.

    And that is what is so great about the internet. It enables pompous blowhards to connect with other pompous blowhards in a vast circle jerk of pomposity
    [ Parent ]
    acting like that is the most likely outcome is (none / 0) (#21)
    by lonelyhobo on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 05:15:51 PM EST

    ludicrous.  The FBI worked as absolutely hard as they could to fuck that guy over and he lucked out.  How could you be sure that you'd suck out like he did?

    [ Parent ]
    Well you have to weigh the up and down sides (none / 1) (#22)
    by localroger on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 05:38:26 PM EST

    Killing yourself is pretty harsh; it's an automatic FAIL. And if you had no other example you might think the only other outcome would be the EPIC FAIL of FBI railroading, so a simple FAIL would look better involving at least less pain and humiliation.

    But, assuming the guy was also innocent -- as some of the tinfoil hats already do -- you have to observe that he had Hatfield's example before him. True, duplicating such success might be a longshot, but it was clearly a non-zero possibility. And he could look at what Hatfield did for inspiration which Hatfield did not have as to how to achieve it.

    Under those circumstances offing yourself at this point seems a bit premature. Assuming he didn't have a bit of "help" (tinfoil hats weighing in again) then it would seem like an admission of guilt to quit the game so early with such a prize in view.

    And that is what is so great about the internet. It enables pompous blowhards to connect with other pompous blowhards in a vast circle jerk of pomposity
    [ Parent ]

    maybe he was depressed? (3.00 / 2) (#24)
    by rhiannon on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 11:09:41 PM EST

    Having the fbi investigate you for something you've dedicated a large part of your life to fighting is a rather large straw, maybe it broke his back?

    Not only that, but imagine the tedium, we're talking about years of lawyering up, meetings, jail, and the public scrutiny at a minimum, possibly spending the rest of your life getting raped until they execute your ass as a terrorist.

    It's also likely that, if this was a setup, the fbi would have learned from hatfield and picked someone much more unstable, someone easy to bully this time around.

    -----------------------------------------
    I continued to rebuff the advances... so many advances... of so many attractive women. -MC
    [ Parent ]

    Heh (2.66 / 3) (#19)
    by regeya on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 01:11:55 AM EST

    "Was Ivins intimidated into committing suicide by threats from the FBI, or was he "assisted" in some way?"

    Are you a lawyer?

    Did you have sexual relations with a chimpanzee, or was it another type of ape?

    I agree this stinks, and that you're likely right, but please don't lead me around by the nose.

    [ yokelpunk | kuro5hin diary ]

    Poll (none / 0) (#25)
    by nuntius on Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 01:02:06 AM EST

    Why would he commit suicide less than a year before the FBI comes under new leadership?

    a) he was guilty and acted alone
    b) he was guilty and acted for the old administration
    c) he was innocent but unstable
    d) suicide?  really?
    e) the Godfather promised to take good care of his family
    f) K5 is badly in need of something to discuss


    A false flag operation. (2.00 / 2) (#26)
    by sudogeek on Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 01:31:18 PM EST

    It was clearly designed to stampede Congress into rolling over on the fascist "PATRIOT" Act and acquiesce to the shredding of the Constitution by the criminal Bush Administration. No references in your article but Greenwald in Salon has been all over this from the start.


    You're an arrogant, condescending, ignorant dipshit. - trhurler

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