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News flash: k5 finally upgraded!

By janra in Site News
Sun May 28, 2006 at 05:59:52 PM EST
Tags: kuro5hin, scoop (all tags)
kuro5hin

I bet you thought it would never happen...

Well, here it is: K5 running current Scoop code. We've tested it as much as a few people can in a fairly short time, but if you see anything, old or new, that doesn't work as it should, please post below to let us know and we'll get it fixed as soon as we can.

And now, the new features you can play with:


First up is a security update, for you, the k5 member. Ever forgotten to log out from an internet cafe computer? Now, just above your normal logout link, is a "Log out from all locations" link. This will delete all of your sessions from the database, no matter what computer you had logged in from. The cookie will still be on the other computers - there's nothing we can do about that - but it will no longer be associated with your account and any anybody using that computer to visit k5 will not be logged in as you. This will also log you out where you're sitting and you'll have to log in again.

Next, you'll notice that your user preferences pages have been rearranged. User preferences in Scoop have been completely revamped so it's easy for admins to add, change, and remove preferences. You'll also notice the comment display mode preferences have been massively simplified. Due to the extensive changes, you may have to re-set some of your preferences, but I'm pretty sure we got them all.

Related to the prior two notes, you can now set how long your cookies last. This is global, not per login, but if you usually surf from a shared computer you can set it to expire after a couple of hours; if you usually surf from your personal computer, go right ahead and set it to a couple of months. I don't want the list of options to get ridiculously long, but I will take suggestions for good values to include in it. It's a pretty basic selection right now.

Another new user preference you may have noticed is the choice between the traditional drop-down box and radio buttons for rating comments. If you're using either of the dynamic comment modes, you can now rate a comment with a single click - comment ratings in dynamic mode take effect immediately.

The story submission page has also been revamped, although the submission process is the same. One new feature for story submissions is the option to put up a traditional single-choice poll or a multiple-choice poll. You can still only vote once on a multiple choice poll, but you can vote for more than one option when you cast your vote. The totals may look strange at first, but the percentages beside each option is still the percentage of voters who chose that option. They just add up to more than 100% now, since voters can choose more than one option.

Topics for stories have been replaced with tags, and you can apply as many tags as you like to a story when you submit it. All existing stories have been given tags based on their topic. Tags can be multiple words, so separate different tags with commas. If you list a tag that has an icon associated with it (such as the previous topic names) then your story will get that icon. If you have multiple tags that match icons, the first one listed will be used. This applies to diaries, too. Note that the "all tags" list only shows and counts stories which are not archived.

For those who have access to it, spellcheck is no longer a checkbox which you must remember to uncheck before you can post. It is a button which acts like preview + spellcheck; the preview button does preview without spellcheck, and the submit button, well, it submits. I think it's a lot more convenient that way.

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News flash: k5 finally upgraded! | 135 comments (135 topical, editorial, 3 hidden)
Oh so? (2.11 / 9) (#1)
by Orion Blastar Again on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:09:47 PM EST

The Comment Rating System has a new face, but it's moderation feature is still broken and prone to abuse by an army of dupes, so is the vote for story  feature vulnerable to an army of dupes.

The changes look good so far. Please do not add a Husi feature of embedded graphics. Most of us like comments, diaries, and stories to be image-free.

Learn how to be a liberal.
I can't believe it's not Liberalism!
"Thanks for the pointers on using the internet. You're links to uncylopedia have turned my life around." -zenador

The five remaining K5 users salute you. :-) $ (2.77 / 18) (#2)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:21:57 PM EST



It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
Five? (3.00 / 12) (#3)
by MrHanky on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:26:29 PM EST

Most of us have been replaced by trane's AIs. The obvious exceptions are somaudlin, who is an obvious mindpixel job, and Baldrson, who is the work of Mossad. Then there's you, and trhurler.


"This was great, because it was a bunch of mature players who were able to express themselves and talk politics." Lettuce B-Free, on being a total fucking moron for Ron Paul.
[ Parent ]
I'm not entirely convinced... (3.00 / 4) (#4)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:27:19 PM EST

that I'm not some kind of AI.

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
I'm not entirely convinced... (3.00 / 3) (#33)
by MotorMachineMercenary on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:41:47 PM EST

that you possess some kind of I.

I made teh funnay.

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"My mental image of you is Wyatt's brother Chet in Weird Science."
- Parent ]

Hm... That not funny haha... (3.00 / 2) (#34)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:43:16 PM EST

That funny queer...

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
That not PC (3.00 / 2) (#62)
by shm on Mon May 29, 2006 at 10:56:34 AM EST

Please to be trying again.

[ Parent ]
Here's to hoping (2.50 / 8) (#54)
by curien on Mon May 29, 2006 at 02:40:16 AM EST

... somaudlin pulls a "mindpixel job".

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I'm directly under the Earth's sun ... ... now!
[ Parent ]
I do it all for you (3.00 / 10) (#5)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:27:20 PM EST

You five real people who still post. You make it all worthwhile.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]
Your efforts are appreciated. $ (3.00 / 4) (#6)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:29:07 PM EST



It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
We should all get a room. $ (3.00 / 2) (#18)
by mr strange on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:27:33 PM EST



intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
can i bring the dupes (none / 1) (#93)
by my gold bling shines on Wed May 31, 2006 at 07:18:37 AM EST

or is this game just for boys?


Stop your blubbering prima donna - BottleRocket
[ Parent ]
Yay (3.00 / 2) (#126)
by joeyo on Sat Jun 03, 2006 at 01:01:42 AM EST

There are actually six of us

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"Give me enough variables to work with, and I can probably do away with the notion of human free will." -- Parent ]

wait a second (2.62 / 8) (#7)
by Insoc on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:31:19 PM EST

"If you're using either of the dynamic comment modes, you can now rate a comment with a single click - comment ratings in dynamic mode take effect immediately."

Those dynamic options seem to have disappeared, at least for me.

Check your interface prefs (3.00 / 4) (#8)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:34:58 PM EST

The dynamic options only show up in your prefs if you have "use dynamic interface elements" checked.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]
Frist criticism (2.85 / 7) (#9)
by ksandstr on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:47:18 PM EST

Looking at the diary section, I noticed that there are now three lines that identify and describe a diary entry. For a typical diary entry this comes down to "By ksandstr in ksandstr's Diary", "Mon whatever whatever earlyinthemorning EET" and then the line with the tags. I can't remember what it looked like before, but right now three lines of meta below the title makes the individual diary entries look busy to a bothersome degree. (Or maybe it's the lack of spacing between the last line of meta and the intro copy. I'm not a web designer, I don't know these things.)

Also, isn't "By X in X's Diary" pretty much redundant in the diary sect^Wghetto? (Or is this some sort of a sneaky lead-in to admins posting in the peons' diaries? Or perhaps some sort of christian magic?)

Fin.

Diary headers (none / 1) (#11)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:01:16 PM EST

Before, it was "by nickname in Diaries" and the date - just two lines.

Also before, the topic image was the link to the user's diary page, but now that you can put whatever tag image you want there, having varied images linking to the user's diary instead of the topic they represent was just terrible UI. I had to put a link the user's diary page somewhere, though, and replacing the section link seemed like the best place.

The tags I'm not sure how to best arrange, but they'll probably need a line to themselves, and in the header seemed better than below the introtext, as then it would get between the two parts of the diary (or story)...

So anyhow, suggestions for improvement will be considered.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]

perhaps (none / 1) (#83)
by Letters to Help@K5 on Tue May 30, 2006 at 03:35:19 PM EST

not displaying 'by [username]' if it's the diary section?

[ Parent ]
And (none / 1) (#13)
by levesque on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:09:11 PM EST

the "all stories" box on the front page and the "diary" box on the diary page look painful to read too

[ Parent ]
Tags? (1.71 / 7) (#10)
by t1ber on Sun May 28, 2006 at 06:47:23 PM EST

IMG tags are broken.

At least give us images for stories, it's awfully hard to have an article on knitting without pictures.  Kitten will be so terribly heartbroken if he can't knit!

And she said...
Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
Hadji girl I can't understand what you're saying.

Incidentally, my comment ordering is reversed. (2.50 / 2) (#12)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:06:32 PM EST

I had it set to do newest comments at the top and now they are at the bottom.

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
Check your comment preferences (none / 1) (#15)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:15:40 PM EST

It shouldn't have changed in the migration, but because it was a huge change, some stuff may have gotten lost. I do remember doing a lot of work on the comment preferences and how they're handled internally.

If they're set the way they should be, save them anyway, just to make sure they're stored correctly.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]

It is set to... (none / 1) (#17)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:22:46 PM EST

"oldest", and I tried saving again and they are still coming out in the reverse of what they were pre-upgrade. Also, now clicking on comment titles cause them to be opened in a new window instead of expanding them inline. It doesn't seem like any of my preferences survived...

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
Odd (none / 1) (#19)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:28:21 PM EST

I just set my pref to "newest" and now the newest comments show up at the top. There doesn't seem to be a problem with the code; it must have just mangled your preferences in the upgrade. Sorry about that...

Actually, I just looked in the database, and that userpref got missed in the migration. Give me a minute and I'll get it all migrated over to use the new system.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]

One step closer to HuSi (2.87 / 8) (#14)
by LilDebbie on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:10:36 PM EST

What's next, <img> tags? Quirky diary tags? Mayonaisse?!?

My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
- hugin -

Please imagine... (3.00 / 23) (#29)
by rusty on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:00:07 PM EST

...that this comment is a picture of a great big animated cow peeing on IMG tags.

Thank you.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

But (3.00 / 1) (#111)
by blixco on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 03:24:59 PM EST

we don't use <img> tags. We hand-paste the images to every instance of the story with blunt scissors and some really tasty paste.
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The root of the problem has been isolated.
[ Parent ]
So what about Private Messaging? (2.75 / 4) (#21)
by mr strange on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:33:55 PM EST

Doesn't the latest Scoop code have that?

(Oh and thanks for putting the effort in. It's nice to know that somebody cares.)

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus

Scoop does not have private messages (3.00 / 2) (#22)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:38:42 PM EST

HuSi does, but Scoop doesn't.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]
Y H B T (none / 1) (#115)
by Rohypnol or GHB on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 06:32:41 PM EST



[ Parent ]
Private messaging is gay, use IRC [nt] (1.80 / 5) (#64)
by Patrick Chalmers on Mon May 29, 2006 at 11:47:54 AM EST


Holy crap, working comment search!
[ Parent ]
SO LEAVE IT BLANK (3.00 / 3) (#23)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:41:33 PM EST

you don't have to tag things if you don't want to.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
interesting (3.00 / 2) (#27)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:53:13 PM EST

It doesn't list tags as a required field in the preview, so it shouldn't require them at post time. I will look into it.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]
Still no placeholders for removed comments, huh. (3.00 / 5) (#31)
by The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:16:11 PM EST



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I'm a pompous windbag, I take myself far too seriously, and I single-handedly messed up K5 by causing the fiction section to be created. --localroger

[ Parent ]
Looks good (3.00 / 2) (#25)
by Hung Fu on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:42:43 PM EST

I know what a pain it is to update production software, so your work is much appreciated.

In particular, I think tags will improve K5's coherence as a body of work. I hate to look a gift horse in the mouth, but it's a shame that K5's enormous and rich archive of stories isn't tagged apart from the topic. Perhaps statistically improbable phrases could be munged into tags like amazon.com. Also, you do realize how much the diary section will abuse this feature?

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From Israel To Lebanon

Tags on existing stories (3.00 / 4) (#26)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 07:51:07 PM EST

Yeah, I do think the topic-only tag for older stories is pretty limited. But, I am not quite up to the kind of natural language processing it takes to pull meaningful tags out of text with a script.

It may happen someday. It may not. I don't know at this point. I hope it does, but that sort of thing is just a little outside my area of expertise...

And yes, I do realize what the diary section will do with the feature. Rusty wanted to replace topics with tags now that tags are available in Scoop, so I did. I don't think you can shut off tags for a particular section, or at least I didn't see a way to do it without coding up a new feature...
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]

Well (3.00 / 2) (#30)
by Hung Fu on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:07:30 PM EST

I'm just worried that topics might become useless because they are full of diary spam. But I guess if people abuse the feature the admins can deal with it like any other problem.

Again, though, this is all nitpicking, it's just great to see K5 updated :).

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From Israel To Lebanon
[ Parent ]

see my above comment for preventing tagging abuse$ (3.00 / 2) (#36)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:46:18 PM EST



It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
The best way to deal with this... (3.00 / 2) (#35)
by skyknight on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:45:32 PM EST

would be the conjunction of forcing diaries to have a specific tag on them and allowing searches to specify predicates of the form "but exclude results with this tag".

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
well, the point of tags is that they are inclusive (none / 1) (#39)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:57:55 PM EST

It would be dead easy to add a diary-section tag to all diaries, but that wouldn't change the tags page much except to add yet another tag.

When the search functionality is rewritten it might search tags, and it might allow more logic in the search, but that still isn't likely to change the tags page, unless tagging in diaries is rendered completely meaningless by having them excluded from the tag list entirely. And then I might as well just code a feature to turn tags on and off per section so people don't have to type in a few meaningless words to post.

I don't know yet what will turn out to be the right answer.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]

Feature Requests (2.37 / 8) (#32)
by givemegmail111 on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:31:46 PM EST

I want the user info page to have an option to view a user's voting history, much like the comment rating history. This information is public anyway, so there's no reason not to.

I want the story vote buttons moved to the top of the page before the story, so I don't have to scroll through long works of fiction before voting -1.

I want new users to not have the ability to post links in stories until they've posted a certain number of comments.

But most of all, I want an ignore button. Can you make it happen, rusty?

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Start your day tastefully with a Sausage, Egg & Cheese McGriddle, only at McDonalds.
Rusty fix my sig, dammit!

FOR ALL THAT IS PURE AND INNOCENT IN THIS WORLD! (3.00 / 12) (#37)
by MotorMachineMercenary on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:46:28 PM EST

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TAG SHIT? LAST TIME I HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH TAG WAS IN KINDERGARTEN, AND THE LADY TOLD ME THAT I CAN'T TOUCH LITTLE ANNA "THERE."

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"My mental image of you is Wyatt's brother Chet in Weird Science."
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it's this stuff you spray on yourself (3.00 / 5) (#47)
by horny smurf on Sun May 28, 2006 at 11:00:18 PM EST

so that big anna will want you to touch her "there".

[ Parent ]
I can't make the comment display setting stick (3.00 / 2) (#38)
by MichaelCrawford on Sun May 28, 2006 at 08:52:51 PM EST

Any new stories I visit, it comes up nested.  I prefer threaded.  I can set it to threaded, but then when I visit a new story it's nested again.  Is there a global prefs for this?

Nested comment display makes the Baby Jesus cry.


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Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


Check your comment prefs again (none / 1) (#40)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 09:07:13 PM EST

The new prefs keep the concept of "overflow" - below a certain number of comments it'll use one display, above it'll use another (generally more compact). You can set your comment prefs to "always use overflow mode" if you always want the same display.

I just checked your comment prefs and you have it set to use nested below 200 comments, and threaded above 200.

This is one of the prefs that's most liable to get mangled in the upgrade because it went from six prefs down to three, and some information had to be lost. I tried to make the migration script as intelligent as possible when figuring out what you would want, but it's not perfect and it could easily make errors in judgement.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.
[ Parent ]

Hey thanks (none / 1) (#59)
by MichaelCrawford on Mon May 29, 2006 at 04:34:52 AM EST

I set the limit down to fifteen.  Much more than that and it gets overwhelming.

Thanks for all the hard work!


--

Live your fucking life. Sue someone on the Internet. Write a fucking music player. Like the great man Michael David Crawford has shown us all: Hard work, a strong will to stalk, and a few fries short of a happy meal goes a long way. -- bride of spidy


[ Parent ]

Hooray! Now instead of whining about (3.00 / 7) (#41)
by glor on Sun May 28, 2006 at 09:07:39 PM EST

... misisng features, we can whine about missing features AND about how slow the site is after the upgrade!

I've been looking for more things to complain about.  Thanks for making my day.

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Disclaimer: I am not the most intelligent kuron.

You dorks aren't British (1.62 / 8) (#42)
by roadscholar on Sun May 28, 2006 at 09:20:15 PM EST

Cut the 'favourite' crap already

true (1.50 / 4) (#51)
by Smothie on Mon May 29, 2006 at 01:37:36 AM EST

But, they're not all USian either. I offered to submit a patch fixing all spellings within the code to American (since we are after all kind of setting the standard nowadays) and was politely told that there was no interest in the patch.

Oooh, that reminds me - I need to submit a patch for spelling errors - oops! Forgot.

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[ Parent ]

You realise that the vast majority of English... (2.83 / 6) (#60)
by mr strange on Mon May 29, 2006 at 05:53:49 AM EST

...speakers aren't American? Right? International English is by far the most widely used.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
What? "International English"? (2.57 / 7) (#63)
by Patrick Chalmers on Mon May 29, 2006 at 11:46:44 AM EST

Is that like Basic English?

There's only one type of English: English English, aka "English". Everything else is a bastardised pidgin dialect.
Holy crap, working comment search!
[ Parent ]

Uh huh. (1.44 / 9) (#68)
by Smothie on Mon May 29, 2006 at 07:32:32 PM EST

So, I should expect everyone will eventually sound like Apu, saying, "Silly Homer! Don't you know that you cannot destroy a twinkie!"

I think not.

English is the main international language right now because of us. Get used to the idea. We aren't going anywhere.

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Please visit my scoop site, Guppylog - For help with all livebearing fish.
[ Parent ]

wtf are you on about?? (2.00 / 3) (#78)
by mr strange on Tue May 30, 2006 at 10:12:21 AM EST

I think you're being racist, but I can't tell because you're being so obtuse.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]
Actually he may have a point (2.66 / 3) (#90)
by kitten on Tue May 30, 2006 at 11:47:08 PM EST

It's entirely possible that the main -- if not the only -- reason English is so popular is because of the United States being such an economic powerhouse.

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2001rank.html

Given that the US has more economic clout than the entire EU, it seems that in this era, if you want to do business, you'd better speak English.

I think it's likely that the reason so-called "British English" is popular outside America is because, well, England is a lot closer to Europe than we are (dur). But physical proximity doesn't make people want to learn the language. Money does.
mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
If that were so (2.00 / 3) (#92)
by daveybaby on Wed May 31, 2006 at 06:30:30 AM EST

Then why isnt everyone using U.S. spelling?

Regardless, who gives a flying fuck about the reasons, except for jingoistic chest beating racist retards like that cuntwit two posts up?

[ Parent ]

I already said (3.00 / 3) (#95)
by kitten on Wed May 31, 2006 at 09:19:25 AM EST

Probably because if you're in Europe and you want to learn English, it's easier to find a nice English chap than an American bloke. That, and what programmers would call "legacy reasons".

Though I agree, who really gives a shit. I think Americans and Brits are going to forever mock each other about the other's spelling and that's just that.
mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
You mock us too? (2.00 / 3) (#96)
by daveybaby on Wed May 31, 2006 at 10:33:54 AM EST

Wow, I thought that it was all one way.

[ Parent ]
Victorians. (2.50 / 2) (#99)
by haflinger on Wed May 31, 2006 at 02:20:49 PM EST

There was this little thing called the British Empire once, ever hear of it?

They brought English all over the world, including to the country that is now the U.S.

Did people from the future send George Carlin back in time to save rusty and K5? - leviramsey
[ Parent ]

Yup. (2.66 / 3) (#101)
by kitten on Wed May 31, 2006 at 05:14:05 PM EST

I seem to recall that the "British Empire" has been irrelevent for nearly 100 years, too. In non-English speaking countries, no one of this generation or likely the one before it, is learning English because of the British Empire. They're learning it because of the United States.
mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
WTF? (2.75 / 4) (#106)
by haflinger on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 08:25:16 AM EST

People in the United States speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Ireland speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Antigua and Barbuda speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Jamaica speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in St. Vincent and the Grenadines speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Australia speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Kenya speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Samoa speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in the Bahamas speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Kiribati speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Seychelles speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Bangladesh speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Lesotho speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Sierra Leone speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Barbados speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Malawi speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Singapore speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Belize speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Malaysia speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in the Solomon Islands speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Botswana speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Maldives speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in South Africa speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Brunei Darussalam speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Malta speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Sri Lanka speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Cameroon speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Mauritius speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Swaziland speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Canada speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Mozambique speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Tonga speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Cyprus speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Namibia speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Trinidad and Tobago speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Dominica speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Nauru speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Tuvalu speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in the Fiji Islands speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in New Zealand speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Uganda speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in The Gambia speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Nigeria speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Ghana speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Pakistan speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in the United Republic of Tanzania speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Grenada speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Papua New Guinea speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Vanuatu speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Guyana speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in St. Kitts and Nevis speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in Zambia speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in India speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in St. Lucia speak English because they used to be in the British Empire.

People in other countries learn English in order to communicate with people in one or more of these other countries, plus the United Kingdom, of course. There are lots of them. I probably missed a few.

Besides, if what they really wanted was to talk to Americans, they'd be out there learning Spanish anyway. :)

Did people from the future send George Carlin back in time to save rusty and K5? - leviramsey
[ Parent ]

History shmistory. (2.60 / 5) (#107)
by kitten on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 09:01:17 AM EST

The litmus test is to ask a non-English-speaking person living today why he's learning English.

Hint: They won't say "because 100 years ago, Britain was an empire."

Obviously England's imperialism had a lot to do with it in the past, but that's been irrelevent for nearly a century. Today's generation is interested in doing business with the United States. England's 1.5 trillion GDP is nice and all, but the US pumps out twelve times that.

The OP said that people are learning English because of America. Pointing out that people in, say, Australia, already speak English because they were part of Britain is not the point he was making.

Besides which, your examples show how much you're really reaching. No, really, go to Mauritius and see how many people there actually speak English. After all, as you pointed out, a million years ago Mauritius was part of the British empire! You should have no trouble!

Oops, here's what the census actually says about it:
Creole 80.5%, Bhojpuri 12.1%, French 3.4%, English (official; spoken by less than 1% of the population), other 3.7%, unspecified 0.3% (2000 census)
And that's just the first freaking example I looked for. I suspect most of the others are going to be similar. Now, if you go there, and find someone is studying English, do you think it's because they feel some need to commune with a dead empire?
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[ Parent ]
We're not talking about non-English speakers. (3.00 / 3) (#109)
by mr strange on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 01:23:49 PM EST

We're talking about people who speak English. You know, all 2 billion of them or whatever.

For people in non-English speaking countries who are learning English today, you are correct. There are lots of them, but their numbers are dwarfed by the countless millions who speak English because, y'know, it's the language1 in their country.

1 One of the languages, usually.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]

Okay, I'm wrong. (3.00 / 4) (#116)
by kitten on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 06:38:56 PM EST

Hm. Actually, in looking back, I see I'm wrong. His statement was that English is the main language "because of us". This is clearly idiotic, and I thought he was talking about people who are learning it when it isn't their native language.

However, I stand by the point I thought I was making/defending, which is that people want to learn English as a non-primary because of the US, which is true. On the other hand, since that isn't what the OP was talking about, I guess my brilliant point is irrelevant.
mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
Wow. (2.66 / 3) (#117)
by mr strange on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 08:27:13 PM EST

Admitting you're wrong on K5. That's just not done.

I tip my hat to you.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]

I really don't see why people '0' your comments (2.75 / 4) (#110)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 01:40:35 PM EST

They are usually either funny, crude or well-researched.

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

Dunno. (2.25 / 4) (#119)
by kitten on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 11:32:38 PM EST

Maybe you should ask them.
mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
Nah, I'll just fight the battle on my own terms (2.66 / 3) (#122)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 09:04:02 AM EST

by constantly giving you 3's out of respect for your consistency.

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

Are you afraid (3.00 / 3) (#124)
by kitten on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 06:33:42 PM EST

of the answers they might give? I am not. Take courage, Egil. Take courage.
mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
I get some fairly significant abuse here (2.50 / 2) (#130)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Sun Jun 04, 2006 at 04:46:58 PM EST

So, NO.

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

Perhaps a coalition should be formed. (2.50 / 2) (#131)
by kitten on Sun Jun 04, 2006 at 05:47:53 PM EST


mirrorshades radio - darkwave, synthpop, industrial, futurepop.
[ Parent ]
Let's make it a cabal, shall we? (2.33 / 3) (#132)
by Egil Skallagrimson on Mon Jun 05, 2006 at 08:08:27 AM EST

The K% CABAL!!! hahahahhhah

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Enterobacteria phage T2 is a virulent bacteriophage of the T4-like viruses genus, in the family Myoviridae. It infects E. coli and is the best known of the T-even phages. Its virion contains linear double-stranded DNA, terminally redundant and circularly permuted.
[ Parent ]

ahhh (3.00 / 3) (#133)
by aphrael on Mon Jun 05, 2006 at 02:44:02 PM EST

there are two different questions:

(A) hey, non-native-english speaking dude, why are you learning english?

(B) hey, native-english-speaking dude, why do they speak english in your country?

The answer to (B) is almost always "because we were part of the British Empire".

The answer to (A) is almost always "because we want to talk to native english speakers."

[ Parent ]

I'm not a racist. (1.66 / 3) (#102)
by Smothie on Wed May 31, 2006 at 07:43:32 PM EST

I'm a cultural imperialist.

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[ Parent ]
scott lockwood submitting a spelling patch (3.00 / 4) (#108)
by a brief respite on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 10:17:08 AM EST

teh irony gave me teh cancer.

"[in London] the wrong babes were hidden in black hijabs and long robes on the streets and in the parks."
[ Parent ]

Janra is canadian (3.00 / 2) (#67)
by aphrael on Mon May 29, 2006 at 07:14:04 PM EST

and I believe that is the approved spelling there.

[ Parent ]
Nice work... (3.00 / 4) (#43)
by DrToast on Sun May 28, 2006 at 09:28:59 PM EST

especially on the comment rating stuff. Now that I can rate with just one click, I might actually start moderating stuff. Is there any way to remove the "Rate All" buttons in dynamic mode?

dynamic ratings (2.80 / 5) (#44)
by janra on Sun May 28, 2006 at 09:35:37 PM EST

You shouldn't have a "Rate all" button in dynamic mode. When you make your rating selection, the form is submitted immediately and the single comment reloads in place with your new rating.

I just double-checked dynamic threaded mode, and there's no "Rate all" button.
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[ Parent ]

i have to second dr toast (3.00 / 4) (#45)
by cunt minded on Sun May 28, 2006 at 10:42:53 PM EST

i have dynamic elements box checked and my comments mode is set to dynamic threaded. i also have javascript enabled and i have refreshed the page several times. but theres still a rate all button and ratings dont take effect until i hit it.

is there something i might be doing wrong?

[ Parent ]

Looks like there is (none / 1) (#50)
by janra on Mon May 29, 2006 at 12:21:40 AM EST

I wonder if the migration script mangled that.

Both of you, and MichaelCrawford, were expecting one comment mode and were getting another. If you want to use one comment mode all the time, the comment mode prefs should be either set the same, or the first one should be set to "always use overflow mode". The number between the two sets how many comments are on the page before you switch from one mode to the overflow mode.

If, before the upgrade, you had one mode marked with a '+' and all the others blank, it should have automatically set your comment mode to "always use overflow" and your overflow mode to wherever you put the '+'. I'll see if I can figure out what went wrong.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
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[ Parent ]

Hmmm... (none / 0) (#86)
by DrToast on Tue May 30, 2006 at 04:55:25 PM EST

You have to use dynamic threading to get one click ratings? It would really ne nice to be able to do one click ratings in other modes too.

[ Parent ]
Dynamic comments (none / 0) (#88)
by janra on Tue May 30, 2006 at 10:24:38 PM EST

The two dynamic modes are the only ones that have all the extra name/id/DOM stuff that allow the javascript to load the comment in the right place.

Maybe in the future, dynamic ratings and dynamic comments will be independent. I'd kind of like to see that.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
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[ Parent ]

Shouldn't be too hard... (none / 0) (#114)
by DrToast on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 05:33:10 PM EST

just put an ajax call in the onchange event for the rating. Wouldn't need to mess with the DOM at all, you don't need to reload the comment for a rating change.

[ Parent ]
Feature request... (3.00 / 2) (#46)
by ktakki on Sun May 28, 2006 at 10:51:25 PM EST

On the modsub page, there's a table with Title, Date, Author, and Score.

The author table entry should be a link to the author's user page. I want to know who's a nullo before I click on a story. Otherwise, I have to click on the submission and open the author's user page in another window or tab, or just click on the link to the user page which turns "new" comments into read comments.

I'd be happy to implement these changes myself, but everytime I try to code in Perl, God kills a kitten.


k.
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"In spite of everything, I still believe that people
are really good at heart." - Anne Frank

Not the right kitten, apparently.$ (3.00 / 12) (#48)
by givemegmail111 on Mon May 29, 2006 at 12:11:04 AM EST



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Start your day tastefully with a Sausage, Egg & Cheese McGriddle, only at McDonalds.
Rusty fix my sig, dammit!
[ Parent ]
Feature request (3.00 / 7) (#49)
by rodoke3 on Mon May 29, 2006 at 12:15:57 AM EST

How about adding the user's join date to the user info page?

I take umbrage with such statments and am induced to pull out archaic and over pompous words to refute such insipid vitriol. -- kerinsky


give free users access to see new replies (2.62 / 8) (#52)
by Tex Bigballs on Mon May 29, 2006 at 01:54:31 AM EST

hell ru$ty is making all his money off ads now anyway so what is the big deal

huh? (3.00 / 2) (#53)
by Smothie on Mon May 29, 2006 at 02:04:44 AM EST

What do you mean?

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[ Parent ]
DYNAMIC COMMENTS ARE BROKEN (2.25 / 4) (#55)
by desudesu on Mon May 29, 2006 at 03:06:49 AM EST

THEY DONT WORK ANY MORE--AT ALL. WHY? WHY? WHY?

OKAY I FIGURED THAT OUT (3.00 / 2) (#56)
by desudesu on Mon May 29, 2006 at 03:14:51 AM EST



[ Parent ]
HOWEVER!!! (3.00 / 2) (#57)
by desudesu on Mon May 29, 2006 at 03:15:53 AM EST

its still broken in your preferences when you try to set your k5 start page, theres no more "front page" any more, only two "everything"s and they both give you everything as your start page, not the front page.

this should be fixed now. (none / 0) (#69)
by aphrael on Mon May 29, 2006 at 08:23:40 PM EST

rusty fixed it this afternoon.

[ Parent ]
bugs (3.00 / 2) (#58)
by hesk on Mon May 29, 2006 at 04:23:23 AM EST

  • expand all in dynamic threaded mode still crashes safari
  • instant comment rating does not work in safari (clicking the radiobutton has no effect)

incidentally, i prefer the dailykos approach to comment rating.  so sue me

--
Sticking to the rules doesn't improve your safety, relying on the rules is

Go bitch at Steve Jobs... (none / 1) (#71)
by BJH on Tue May 30, 2006 at 01:46:04 AM EST

...he might actually have a chance of fixing it.
This isn't rocket science, people - if your car is a piece of shit, do you start yelling at the guy in the McDonald's drivethrough window?
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Roses are red, violets are blue.
I'm schizophrenic, and so am I.
-- Oscar Levant

[ Parent ]
do these problems exist (none / 1) (#82)
by Letters to Help@K5 on Tue May 30, 2006 at 03:33:10 PM EST

on other scoop sites, or are they isolated to k5?

[ Parent ]
i can use the dynamic (none / 1) (#87)
by hesk on Tue May 30, 2006 at 07:21:12 PM EST

functionality of dailykos (like thread collapsing, dynamic/instant comment moderation)

i don't use other scoop sites.

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Sticking to the rules doesn't improve your safety, relying on the rules is
[
Parent ]

Thiers is very diffeent than ours (3.00 / 3) (#113)
by rusty on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 05:09:46 PM EST

Kos had someone build out a whole new dynamic mode type thing for dKos. It has absolutely no relation to ours, so I'm not surprised that it works differently.

That said, there shouldn't be any reason it can't work in Safari. Our system has been around forever, and I think is based on much simpler html/js. I'll look into it.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]

radio button rating doesn't work with opera$ (2.00 / 4) (#61)
by V on Mon May 29, 2006 at 07:56:45 AM EST


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Oh no! (1.41 / 12) (#70)
by trhurler on Mon May 29, 2006 at 09:16:35 PM EST

An inconvenience to five people worldwide!

Submit a fix or shut the hell up.

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'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
I disagree. (2.83 / 6) (#81)
by aphrael on Tue May 30, 2006 at 02:03:37 PM EST

It's a perfectly valid bug report.

We may ignore it. But that doesn't mean it isn't a good report.

[ Parent ]

I agree (3.00 / 2) (#91)
by trhurler on Wed May 31, 2006 at 01:56:41 AM EST

It is a good report. I also think my answer is a good answer. :)

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

[ Parent ]
telling people to shut the hell up (3.00 / 5) (#97)
by aphrael on Wed May 31, 2006 at 12:36:42 PM EST

when they're reporting bugs introduced by a software change, especially when bug reports were requested by the people implementing the change, is hardly constructive. :)

[ Parent ]
Hey now, (none / 1) (#103)
by trhurler on Wed May 31, 2006 at 11:29:12 PM EST

Before you said "good" and now you've said "constructive" - which is it? I never claimed my answer was constructive! :)

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[ Parent ]
Holy crap, rusty, we thought you were dead (3.00 / 3) (#65)
by Patrick Chalmers on Mon May 29, 2006 at 11:49:25 AM EST

BTW, to everyone who has "Display hidden comments" enabled in their comment preferences - that appears to have been reset to "No". So you may wanna reconfig that.
Holy crap, working comment search!
most of the work on this (3.00 / 4) (#66)
by aphrael on Mon May 29, 2006 at 07:13:02 PM EST

was done by janra. rusty, mh, and i did testing after she did the work. :)

[ Parent ]
I second that (3.00 / 3) (#112)
by rusty on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 05:07:13 PM EST

janra deserves all the thanks for this. I didn't do anything but hold up the works by claiming I was going to debug.

____
Not the real rusty
[ Parent ]
RSS Feed (3.00 / 2) (#72)
by kovach on Tue May 30, 2006 at 08:40:11 AM EST

Doesn't anybody but me use the rss feed?

Anyway, just reporting that it stopped functioning correctly since the upgrade, the last story is from Apr 14, 2006.

Thanks (none / 1) (#73)
by janra on Tue May 30, 2006 at 09:42:35 AM EST

Fixed it.
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[ Parent ]
100s of sites (none / 1) (#74)
by lamppter on Tue May 30, 2006 at 09:47:07 AM EST

use it.

Naive Bayes Classification and K5 Dupes
[ Parent ]
I am receiving this... (3.00 / 2) (#75)
by lamppter on Tue May 30, 2006 at 09:47:52 AM EST

occaisionally...

D'oh!

I can't seem to talk to the mod_perl server. This probably means that we've taken it down for a few minutes to update something. Please be patient, I'm sure we'll be back up presently.

In a recent poll of 1077 Kuro5hin readers, it was decided that The Terrorists should be blamed for this error. Some combination of factors involving a yacht, monocle polish, and hamsters was a close second. So clearly, the error indicates that The Terrorists (possibly located on a yacht and/or assisted by hamsters with monocle polish) have already won.

Naive Bayes Classification and K5 Dupes

Yes (none / 0) (#77)
by janra on Tue May 30, 2006 at 10:05:28 AM EST

I know. I'm trying to track it down.
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[ Parent ]
There appears to have been a problem (none / 0) (#80)
by aphrael on Tue May 30, 2006 at 02:03:01 PM EST

where certain default values (used by anonymous hero, among other things) were causing httpd requests to hang. Rusty tracked it down this morning, and I think he may have nailed it.

[ Parent ]
Tags (2.75 / 4) (#76)
by A Bore on Tue May 30, 2006 at 10:05:07 AM EST

are just Rusty's way of avoiding proper comment search work. I'm onto him.

Also, I'm creating a complicated greasemonkey script to devolve kurofin back to its primaeval state. I don't like changes. They make me feel confused and worthless.

tags (none / 0) (#79)
by aphrael on Tue May 30, 2006 at 02:02:03 PM EST

were introduced into scoop a while ago, and therefore come with the new scoop package.

they're the information-organization methodology of the future. library of congress, beware!

[ Parent ]

Dynamic Nested? (3.00 / 5) (#84)
by CanSpice on Tue May 30, 2006 at 04:37:20 PM EST

Would it be possible to have a Dynamic Nested mode? I don't want to have to click arrows to follow a thread, but I'd also like to have the dynamic voting working. Could you have a Dynamic Nested mode that's the same as Dynamic Threaded but with all of the threads expanded?

Removing comment rating when using radio buttons (2.00 / 3) (#85)
by CanSpice on Tue May 30, 2006 at 04:43:25 PM EST

It's impossible to remove a comment rating when you have radio button ratings turned on. With drop down boxes I can select "none" to remove a rating, but there's no such option when you use radio buttons.

Consider this a feature request to have a "none" radio button.

Actually, you can't (2.80 / 5) (#89)
by janra on Tue May 30, 2006 at 10:29:26 PM EST

Try setting the drop-down to "none" and saving it, on a comment you've already rated. Now check and see if your rating was removed.

You can't remove your rating, you can only change it. It's always worked that way.
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Discuss the art and craft of writing
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[ Parent ]

Well that's dumb. (3.00 / 2) (#98)
by CanSpice on Wed May 31, 2006 at 02:03:34 PM EST

I suggest changing the "none" label to "none, but if you've already rated this comment you're shit out of luck".

[ Parent ]
Why None is there at all (none / 0) (#118)
by localroger on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 11:21:39 PM EST

It's the silly "Rate All" *feature*. Teh Othar Site works the same way. There must be a dropdown entry that doesn't apply a change to that comment, since clicking the rate button actually records all the ratings you've set on the entire page.

I am become Death, Destroyer of Worlds -- J. Robert Oppenheimer
[ Parent ]
What it should do (none / 0) (#120)
by janra on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 11:44:18 PM EST

Once you've rated a comment, "none" should disappear from the option box. That way it's clearer that you can leave comments unrated, and once you've rated them you can change but not remove your rating.
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[ Parent ]
Yes (none / 0) (#127)
by Talez on Sat Jun 03, 2006 at 10:56:35 PM EST

Let's increase the load scoop puts on a server for each comment to satisfy the 8 people on the net who care and the 11 that didn't care up until someone actually pointed it out.

Si in Googlis non est, ergo non est
[ Parent ]
i like all the new changes (1.50 / 2) (#94)
by my gold bling shines on Wed May 31, 2006 at 07:21:55 AM EST

except for the tags, which I just find to be more noise.

I'm just grateful we haven't got images.

the slowness sucks though


Stop your blubbering prima donna - BottleRocket
Feature request/tweak (2.50 / 2) (#100)
by creature on Wed May 31, 2006 at 04:35:10 PM EST

In the RSS feed, I'd like the author field to have the name of the author in it, not "the readers of kuro5hin.org".

RDF author (none / 1) (#104)
by janra on Wed May 31, 2006 at 11:46:16 PM EST

The RDF author, as near as I can tell, is the author of the feed. It seems to assume that the individual items will not have distinct authors.

That sucks; it would have been a nice addition. I'll have to look into whether or not more modern syndication formats support such radical notions as an RSS feed containing items by multiple authors.

(Yes, I did see the dc.whatever extensions. That may be what must be used.)
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[ Parent ]

Tags for the memories (none / 1) (#105)
by Marvaud on Thu Jun 01, 2006 at 06:34:05 AM EST

Tagging the night away

I leave here for a week (3.00 / 3) (#121)
by SoupIsGoodFood on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 06:29:09 AM EST

and look what happens.

I notice that the font tags are still here, so not THAT much has changed. My gawd ... font tags ... not even Slashdot uses them anymore. PLZFIXKTHX

No kidding. (3.00 / 5) (#123)
by regeya on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 12:30:44 PM EST

To think how much bandwidth they could conserve if they'd modernize...it boggles the mind.

[ yokelpunk | kuro5hin diary ]
[ Parent ]

beer (1.50 / 2) (#125)
by Rohypnol or GHB on Fri Jun 02, 2006 at 08:44:57 PM EST



Story Tags? (2.50 / 2) (#128)
by Talez on Sat Jun 03, 2006 at 11:03:41 PM EST

Someone's been reading Metafilter.

Si in Googlis non est, ergo non est
Feature request: dynamic comment rate+hide (3.00 / 2) (#129)
by glor on Sun Jun 04, 2006 at 02:38:18 PM EST

In the dynamic modes, when you rate a comment, it collapses to "Loading..." for some amount of time and then pops back up.  The delay, and the fact that everything below the comment moves twice, is irritating.  It'd be nice if comment ratings (optionally?) only moved a comment once, e.g. by behaving like the "^" button on the left end of the dynamic display.

I like the single-click ratings, thanks.

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It's been awhile since i last came here. (none / 1) (#134)
by Vesperto on Mon Sep 25, 2006 at 09:10:31 PM EST

Iss that troll infestation taken care of yet?
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stupid (none / 1) (#137)
by make picard cry on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 03:37:19 AM EST



how did this make FP? (none / 0) (#139)
by manjal on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 09:09:37 AM EST

it has not only 0 +1 FP votes, --it has zero votes at all--.

I smell some corruption, like maybe the people that run this site were 'in cahoots' with the person who wrote this article.

That would explain the awful grammar and bad punctuation slipping by the normally very strenuous k5ian editorial pundits.

I hope that Rusty can come clean about what is happening here and let us in on what steps are being taken to prevent such corruption and abuse in the future.

After all, if we can't bring transparent democracy to k5, how can we bring it to Iraq? And we can't afford to lose in Iraq - the next thing you know, down town New York City will be a vacuous, horrible smelly mess, full of death and horror. I mean, more than it normally is.
 

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