Every example I give you is countered with the mantra "most users don't need that". Unless you can back this up with proper statistics, this is just so much hot air.
True. My assertion that the Moon is not made of green cheese is also "so much hot air", as the only supporting evidence is indirect and via third parties, but I have a fairly strong suspicion I'm right.
I've seen more than enough typical users to know that they don't even know what different user contexts _are_, let alone wanting to switch between them on a regular basis.
The examples I've given you are actually real world usage patterns which any programmer will recognize
No doubt, but programmers are hardly a majority share of users, are they ?
As I already said, I've fixed my system for my own use. That doesn't change the fact that Windows is unusable unless the defaults are heavily modified, and then some.
Unusable for you. You are clearly not a typical user.
Personally, I don't have any problems with the things that seem to bother you. Neither does my mother, or my aunt. Neither do the hundred-odd users in my office. Neither do the vast majority of users, obviously, or both Microsoft and Apple would have changed their UI's default behaviours.
Sure, all you have to do is "this" or "that". Doesn't work.
Correction. Doesn't work for your specific example.
In this case, I need the full desktop of the other user, it needs to interact with open windows and plays with the system tray.
Thus making your need to work in another user's context even _more_ atypical.
And just to show that you haven't tried your own remedy, if you click on "Run As", you don't get a full list of users on the system.
I've tried it, I've just never needed (or wanted) to run something off-hand as anything other than Administrator, or me.
The point is that you have to wait ages for windows to swap its old desktop out, swap the new one in, reconfigure the registry hive etc. Nothing to write home about if you do this once a day, but close to unusable if you do this frequently.
Sounds like either your user profiles are enormous or the system is memory starved. If you're switching as often as you say you are, all that sort of stuff should be cached.
Sounds like you're not clear on what you're saying.
I'm perfectly clear. I'm not assuming anything.
Incidentally, I never said icons are meant to be the sole method of identifying files, as you seem to have misinterpreted. I said icons are there to give a quick at-a-glance indication of file types. I never suggested or implied that icons should be the only method used to identify an object.
I've already told you that I switch those modes on whenever I come across them. They have their problems too, which I mentioned.
No, you didn't. Or, if you did, you didn't make it clear.
Think of it this way: how many things do you keep on your desk (the real tabletop)? How would you like it if whenever you're done with a small task, someone rearranged all the objects on your desk just slightly? Would you work well in those conditions? That's what Windows does constantly.
So turn "Auto Arrange" on the Desktop off. It's off by default anyway, so it must be something you turned on manually.
Alternatively, if you're talking about folder views in explorer, they won't rearrange unless manually told to with a refresh - new objects are added to the end of the list. Incidentally, you'll find at least many people complaining about that behaviour as you will about MacOS's auto-reorder, which acts as you seem to think Windows does.
I am wondering, however, if the way an 'ls' command orders files alphabetically by default gets you in a similar sort of lather.
I never said I can't be bothered to fix things. I said that some things in Windows are unfixable, unless all you want is a toy OS.
That's assuming you believe they're broken in the first place.
Here's another one. The default focus policy is completely shit for working with several windows at once. I often need to refer to documentation online, and work on something at the same time. I've installed the UI tweaks to change the focus policy of course, but if I hadn't I'd be SOL.
Personally, I *loathe* the focus-follows-mouse paradigm I assume you're referring to as your preferred option. Windows' click-to-focus is far superior, as far as I'm concerned - and I typically have dozens of windows open.
Do you want to know how Microsoft has fixed the severe problems of working with several application windows at once?
Same way a lot of other people have, the Taskbar. Apple have an even better solution, called Expose.
I most certainly do. Half of the work I do on Windows is done in the bash shell with cygwin. I just lament the fact I still have to work with a toy UI the other half of the time.
A "toy" to you. Fine for most people.
Personally I hate having to deal with the "toy UI" present in most other OSes.
No I'm not. I'm asserting that Windows is a toy for people who don't really work with computers.
I'm a unix sysadmin. That's at least as close to "really working with computers" as any programmer. I rarely have trouble working productively in Windows - although I do prefer OS X.
The fact that most people just like to gaze in awe at pretty icons is their problem. It doesn't make Windows any better as a system.
Whether or not it's "better as a system" is dependant entirely upon the user's needs. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it sucks for everyone.
I'll also add I didn't make any assertions one way or the other what OS was "better as a system".
No they're not. You're just making this up without having dealt with the problems.
I'm not making anything up. Just because you see them as problems doesn't mean everyone else does.
Like you're making up the statistics about "most people".
I can only relate to my experiences. In my (reasonably substantial) experience, my portrayal of "most users" is accurate. If you wish to assert "most users" want to constantly switch between different user accounts, have tens of thousands of similar files carefully grouped (and manipulate them - and not their contents - regularly) and regularly have dozens of windows open, then feel free - but I daresay we'll find more people agree with me than you.
I don't claim to know all the tricks to fix annoyances, but I use several of them. And I still don't like what I get at the end.
Then clearly Windows is not a good product for you. That doesn't mean it's a bad product for _everyone_.
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