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New "voice chat" feature proposed for mobile phones

By David Gerard in Technology
Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 10:38:55 PM EST
Tags: Humour (all tags)
Humour

HELSINKI, Thursday (UNN) -- Your mobile phone takes photos and video clips, plays music, receives and sends email, browses the Web, has a PDA built in and, of course, does text and picture messaging. But engineers at Nokia have proposed yet another feature to be added: "voice chat."


"The idea is that you can 'call up' anyone who also has a 'voice-chat'-enabled mobile and quickly have a real-time two-way conversation, instead of tapping your way through short text messages back and forth," says Nokia engineer Orkut Voivitunvittu.

Phone companies have desperately searched for new services to offer to offset the huge licensing fees for the 3G mobile data radio bands. The unexpected success of SMS text messaging helped the bottom line tremendously, but the search for the "next SMS" has been long and arduous.

The "voice chat" feature is expected to be run over a little-used channel in the GSM specification that is sometimes used for sending data by modem connections. "It's only 9600 bits per second, but we figure we could get a decent voice signal through that channel with the right compression," says Voivitunvittu. "Quality is pretty good in our tests so far."

The market for this feature is questioned. Festering Eikel, a marketer at Philips in Eindhoven, points out the problems. "You can answer a text or an email at your leisure -- people who want to 'voice-chat' with you will interrupt you inconveniently. It can't possibly be as convenient as looking things up on a Web page. They want to set up their own closed network -- it doesn't hook into popular voice-over-IP networks like Skype, Google Talk or MSN at all. And finally, they want to give you a long number to remember instead of a nickname. That was a major nuisance on ICQ, and it's not clear why they think it'll work now."

"And really, what are people going to do when they're out in the street? Have loud conversations into this thing walking down the road? They'll look like crazy homeless people shouting at thin air, except they'll be wearing suits."

Text message users were also sceptical. "theres 2 mny bttns alrdy + im nt sure how 2 say sm of th wrds its a prty dum idea its like sayn 'lol' out loud lol" said Grg Smth. "0f c0ur53 1 c00d alw@y2 l3@rn l33t thatll be gd in wow or eq."

The new service will use a tremendous amount of bandwidth. "Yeah, it's somewhere above 500 text messages' worth of data for every minute, and double that since it goes both ways," says Voivitunvittu. "But the modem channel isn't much used by anyone at the moment, so if 'voice-chat' catches on we should be able to keep up with demand as it builds."

Nokia marketers have yet to give a name to the new service, but are considering "UltraVox," from the Latin words for "further" and "voice." "wt a dumass nm itll nvr ctch on," said Smth.

The company is also planning to offer the new service in combination with its recently-announced mobile phone anti-theft feature: rather than running over radio frequencies and being portable, the phones can be attached by a cable connection to the network, in a single secure location.

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New "voice chat" feature proposed for mobile phones | 76 comments (45 topical, 31 editorial, 0 hidden)
LOL - TEH NULLO MAKES THE FUNNY (1.23 / 38) (#3)
by thekubrix on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:05:22 AM EST



LOL - TEH NULLOS MODDED ME 0 (1.33 / 27) (#7)
by thekubrix on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:34:09 AM EST



[ Parent ]
OH NOES NOT AGAIN (1.32 / 25) (#9)
by thekubrix on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:52:17 AM EST



[ Parent ]
Ultra Mobile 3GP Video Converter (none / 0) (#76)
by jackson191 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 04:34:29 AM EST

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www.mobile-video-converter.com

[ Parent ]

can i start laughing already? (2.14 / 7) (#4)
by tkatchevzombie on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:16:32 AM EST

kthx

Awesome (2.57 / 7) (#5)
by SpaceMonkeyGrif on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:29:53 AM EST

This incorporated with my new "Actual Reality Helment" will definately increase my productivity.

Im moving this to vote (none / 1) (#6)
by SpaceMonkeyGrif on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:30:41 AM EST

because its done and should be posted.

[ Parent ]
Dave,..... (1.02 / 50) (#10)
by thekubrix on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:54:20 AM EST

Do you have downs?

Because that was FUCKING stupid.

I don't like people like you. YOU make my life harder by not being able to fully understand many concepts of life,...and that is not only sad, but it pisses me off....I really hate morons, I really do.

Anyways, enjoy your stay at k5, and I hope we cross paths again, because it makes me feel MUCH better about myself when I bash dimwits such as yourself.

Happy Holidays!

OH NOES A 0 - OH.WHAT.WILL.I.EVER.DO (1.00 / 24) (#12)
by thekubrix on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 12:05:11 PM EST



[ Parent ]
jesus, how many dupes do you have? (1.00 / 16) (#14)
by thekubrix on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 12:13:00 PM EST

I mean, mod bombing is pathetic enough (especially since it doesn't do anything), but creating dupe accounts to do it is fucking teh ghey.

[ Parent ]
They're not dupe accounts (2.50 / 6) (#31)
by mettaur on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 04:25:43 AM EST

A lot of people reading this thread just realised you're an arsehole.
--
[Applying business theory to trolling]
[ Parent ]
Zeroing does have an effect. (none / 1) (#57)
by mr strange on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:40:34 PM EST

OK, perhaps most registered users have their options set to show hidden comments, but visitors to the site don't get that option. So, hidden comments really are totally invisible to the vast majority of people who read K5.

Reading K5 is like watching a retard trying to tie his shoelaces. Entertaining, but also a little bit sad.
- Des Beelzebubs Rechtsbeistand


intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]

Re: OH NOES A 0 - OH.WHAT.WILL.I.EVER.DO (none / 1) (#61)
by An onymous Coward on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 03:27:45 AM EST

sounds like you're pissing and moaning about it :(

"Your voice is irrelevant. Stop embarrassing yourself. Please." -stuaart
[ Parent ]
lol pwnd $ (1.50 / 2) (#49)
by skyknight on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 08:39:02 PM EST



It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
0, superflous ad hominem (3.00 / 4) (#27)
by tetsuwan on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 06:09:20 PM EST

I mean, really. Just press the button!

Njal's Saga: Just like Romeo & Juliet without the romance
[ Parent ]

This is the most torpedoed comment... (none / 1) (#65)
by skyknight on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 07:16:26 PM EST

in recent memory. You da man.

It's not much fun at the top. I envy the common people, their hearty meals and Bruce Springsteen and voting. --SIGNOR SPAGHETTI
[ Parent ]
-1, bad satire (1.40 / 10) (#19)
by Enlarged to Show Texture on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 12:50:20 PM EST

There are those who can do satire very well. You, sir, are not one of them. Even if you were a good one, you generated yours shortly after another one that was rightfully shot down. This one should meet the same fate without too much trouble.


"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -- Isaac Asimov
*sob* (2.50 / 4) (#20)
by David Gerard on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 12:58:34 PM EST

But but but I thought this one up all by myself! Ah well ...

[ Parent ]
IHBT (2.50 / 2) (#22)
by Enlarged to Show Texture on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 01:15:28 PM EST

Dammit.


"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -- Isaac Asimov
[ Parent ]
er (none / 0) (#35)
by David Gerard on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 05:46:39 AM EST

Honestly ... I wrote this and put it on my LiveJournal, then thought "hmm, Kuro5hin might like this." I must admit I haven't been around for a while.

[ Parent ]
Thanks for the extra reason (none / 0) (#37)
by Enlarged to Show Texture on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 09:33:22 AM EST

to -1 this thing off - LiveJournal? That place is for emo teens who want to klerck themselves...


"Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -- Isaac Asimov
[ Parent ]
but! (none / 1) (#38)
by David Gerard on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 09:47:08 AM EST

Hey, jwz has a livejournal!

<small>perhaps not the greatest recommendation</small>

[ Parent ]

It never ceases to amaze me... (none / 1) (#72)
by localman on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 03:30:54 AM EST

how many pompous pricks there are on Kuro5hin.  I dug your goofy ass satire.  And I dig livejournal too.  And all these trash talkers used to wear all black and listen to the Cure.  They're too cool for the rest of us.

Cheers.

[ Parent ]

+1, FP (1.83 / 6) (#23)
by wiredog on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 02:52:01 PM EST

I need one of those things.

Wilford Brimley scares my chickens.
Phil the Canuck

I was entertained $ (3.00 / 2) (#40)
by rusty on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 11:41:36 AM EST



____
Not the real rusty
But (none / 0) (#53)
by freestylefiend on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 08:56:27 AM EST

...not by this?
</groucho>

[ Parent ]
I had a wonderful evening.... (none / 1) (#59)
by Sgt York on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:09:48 PM EST

Unfortunately, this wasn't it

(Groucho, I think)

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.
[ Parent ]

attention, suspected k5 infidel (none / 1) (#54)
by Delirium on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:26:15 PM EST

While I will give you the benefit of the doubt and attribute that dollar sign to a slip of the fingers, I must warn that you should be more careful not to give people cause to suspect that you have adopted a heretical position on "ain't no text in da body" signifiers. You may take positive steps to dispel such suspicions in the future by appending "(n/t)" or some close variant to the end of your bodyless comments.

[ Parent ]
What are you on about? $ (none / 0) (#56)
by mr strange on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:36:08 PM EST

omniEvents is a high availability messaging service for CORBA.

intrigued by your idea that fascism is feminine - livus
[ Parent ]

I'm sure I found this funnier than most... (3.00 / 2) (#50)
by Insoc on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 10:00:30 PM EST

as I have been witness to the utter ridiculousness of the texting phenomenom since I started studying abroad here in Manchester, England.

It's not ridiculous (none / 1) (#64)
by Have A Nice Day on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 02:34:43 PM EST

It's just like on the go email. You use email right?

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Have A Nice Day may have reentered the building.
[ Parent ]
No, it's not. (none / 1) (#68)
by brunes69 on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 10:08:02 AM EST

Email is fire-and-forget. You send an email not expecting to get a response right away.

TXT messaging is like IM, you expect a response right away. But it is stupider than IM because you *know* the person you are TXTng has a phone, and you know their phone number, so you *know* you could call them and start a conversation. But instead you type out crap on a keypad.

The whole process of TXTing someone, having them recieve the message, go read it, and reply, takes way longer than a simple phone call would. It is utter foolishness.

---There is no Spoon---
[ Parent ]

can be (none / 0) (#70)
by David Gerard on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 10:15:27 AM EST

Ah, only if you know they have return receipt switched on (which tells the sender when the message has reached the recipient's phone). "I'm sorry, I was on call and put the mobile in the microwave for safekeeping."

[ Parent ]
Longer Than a Call? (none / 0) (#74)
by unknownlamer on Thu Dec 29, 2005 at 09:45:42 PM EST

Bullshit. If you can type quickly (predictive text systems help with that) then SMS is much nicer than calling in a lot of cases. I mostly use my phone for quick messages so an sms makes a lot more sense ("When are you meeting me?") than calling up, going through the greeting process, finding out what I need to know, and then going through the farewell process.

It might take a longer total time, but most of that is spent waiting rather than doing stuff. The actual time spent by the two people is usually significantly less.


--
<vladl> I am reading the making of the atomic bong - modern science
[ Parent ]
God, I hope it doesn't catch on (3.00 / 8) (#55)
by IHCOYC on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 12:34:29 PM EST

This is a technology that could become very annoying, very quickly. I hope it doesn't spread to land-line based networks.
--
"Complecti antecessores tuos in spelæis stygiis Tartari appara," eructavit miles primus.
"Vix dum basiavisti vicarium velocem Mortis," rediit G
+3, funnier than story-nt (none / 0) (#58)
by Sgt York on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 01:08:32 PM EST


There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.
[ Parent ]

Taiwan already has a VoIP cellphone (none / 0) (#60)
by nostalgiphile on Sat Dec 17, 2005 at 09:36:10 PM EST

Nokia better get its act together, the Taiwan company is called Accton Inc and they're gonna use Skype to transmit VoIP calls w/new cellphones. Long live free wireless telephony for the masses!

"Depending on your perspective you are an optimist or a pessimist[,] and a hopeless one too." --trhurler
Stupid idea (2.50 / 2) (#62)
by daani on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 04:07:11 AM EST

It will just give the spammers another way to get to us.


Punchline Contained In Headline (2.25 / 4) (#63)
by it certainly is on Sun Dec 18, 2005 at 11:01:50 AM EST

How Onionesque.

kur0shin.org -- it certainly is

Godwin's law [...] is impossible to violate except with an infinitely long thread that doesn't mention nazis.

PTT (2.50 / 2) (#66)
by heydonms on Mon Dec 19, 2005 at 07:48:46 AM EST

I didn't really get the joke at first, partially because I assumed you were talking about the PTT crap the networks are trying to flog over here in aus. or maybe it just wasn't that funny :/

Years and years ago there was an article... (none / 1) (#67)
by claes on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 08:16:10 AM EST

describing a new graphical user interface where information was stored on "disks" that showed up as rectangles on the screen that you could pick up with the mouse and put into "drives" to access the data. You could enter data using an area at the bottom of the screen that had all the letters in 3 rows, with a row of numbers on top. You would click on the letter and it would show up in the screen.

I thought it was kind of funny.

-- claes

pwn3d. (none / 0) (#69)
by David Gerard on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 10:13:58 AM EST

For some reason, I'd thought these people were smarter than a sack of hammers.

hey have you guys checked unencyclopedia lately (none / 0) (#71)
by IlIlIIllIIlllIII on Wed Dec 21, 2005 at 10:51:07 PM EST

the featured article is about this voice chat stuff. did the author of this article get the idea from there, or did someone get the idea from this article and post it on unencyclopedia, or did they evolve on parallel paths?

discuss.

its a good thing... (none / 1) (#73)
by neozeed on Thu Dec 29, 2005 at 09:11:35 PM EST

its not on a phone, you know, where you can actually PHONE the other person.

This makes about as much sense as that car that lets you play driving games...

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Unless you're alive you can't play. And if you don't play, you don't get to be alive.

What is the point (none / 0) (#75)
by zagloba on Sun Apr 16, 2006 at 09:48:25 PM EST

of making two features available, with which one might make a phone call, when one is perfectly serviceable?

For that matter, what is the gorramn point of Nextel DirectConnect?


|He is a fool who only looks for truth where he knows he can find it.|
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